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Posted by: mm1999

Did they finally release the SE z750? I was checking out phonescoop and it seemed like they listed it under AT&T. And if you check the Letstalk website they have the Pink, Purple. and Grey phones listed.



Posted by: thraven233

I knew it was coming soon, but this is good news looks like its finally coming



Posted by: mm1999

I just checked letstalk again this morning and they replaced the link from phonescoop.com to a free Samsung A517 instead. Can't seem to find it on the website anymore.

The link for the purple z750 seems to be still up:
http://www.letstalk.com/product/product.htm?prId=33873



Posted by: freddyttt

iv been waiting for this phone to replace my 300i....



Posted by: anubis9278

i got 3/13/08



Posted by: freddyttt

sounds good.

thanks-



Posted by: n33d0n3

Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis9278
i got 3/13/08


I know it is on the order form. Shipping date to the store is a different animal though.



Posted by: anubis9278

Quote:
Originally Posted by n33d0n3
I know it is on the order form. Shipping date to the store is a different animal though.


true, 2 day ship means you might get it in a week



Posted by: n33d0n3

You can say that again. I am contemplating buying this phone if we actually get shipped the quantity we ordered.



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Any evidence this phone is going to roll out 'on schedule' (early march)? It disappeared on phonescoop (tentative). I'm kinda hoping for this one in, grey of course... I'm not a fan of pink/purple

Or maybe there will be a better phone to come. My two years are up... I need a new phone asap.



Posted by: SuxBeingU

March 10th is the date I have SEEN on ATT inventory sheets posted here on HoFo



Posted by: n33d0n3

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuxBeingU
March 10th is the date I have SEEN on ATT inventory sheets posted here on HoFo


The stores can order them and probably have. They just haven't been shipped.



Posted by: 1G-Drew

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiabloAzul126

Or maybe there will be a better phone to come. My two years are up... I need a new phone asap.


Of course there will be. Take a look at SE product announcements from last spring. those should be arriving this spring . . .



Posted by: Devidence

Phone Arena lists Q3 2008 now, is the March date more accurate?



Posted by: n33d0n3

Quote:
Originally Posted by Devidence
Phone Arena lists Q3 2008 now, is the March date more accurate?


Around March 13th is the date I believe they will be in stores.



Posted by: SuxBeingU

I am hearing a bit later, like the 17-20th but we are least getting closer



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

I'm getting restless, I really want a new phone, even though this isn't some spectacular smartphone, it does seem to be rather solid.

Come on March 11th.



Posted by: 1G-Drew

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuxBeingU
I am hearing a bit later, like the 17-20th but we are least getting closer


It's not going the way of the k850 is it?



Posted by: altNz

More like the Nokia N75 LOL. But still holding out hope for sometime this month...hopefully...



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Wirelessly posted (Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/2.0.4459/1724; en; U; ssr))

Well it's 3/11. I wonder if the phones are en route or if they'll fade away like every other new phone to come to at&t's lineup. =P



Posted by: urmobilesky

Good question, but it looks like things are going to change in a hurry come another week, there is rumor that the Lg VU will be drop a week from today and the following week the z750, and a Motorola late month or early April. So say in another 3 weeks we'll have at least a couple new phones...and they are long overdue at that. Lets hope these rumors are real, and given the phone drought, they should be.



Posted by: JohnGalt66

I have been waiting for the Z750 for a long time. On February 29 I was in a Radio Shack on a visit to Charleston, South Carolina, and, low and behold, they had the Z750 on display. I assumed that, if it was there, then it would show up everywhere soon (or around the March 11 target date). Of course, it hasn't. So today I called the Radio Shack to see if they had any available. Unfortunately (but as I suspected), they did not have any other than the display model and had no idea when they would get any.

The price listed was $99 with a 2 year contract. It seemed put together well (in the short time I had with it). Finally, I thought that it was at least a good sign for it showing up soon if a display unit was at a Radio Shack in, ironically, an area that does not have 3g yet.



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Ya, I've had my eye on this phone and the k850 for a while, but seriously, this thing is just gunna be a speculative release for like the next decade or so.

~End the drought of new phones (rather than rehashes), AT&T.~

My 6682 is getting long in the tooth.



Posted by: urmobilesky

Wirelessly posted (SAMSUNG-SGH-A707/1.0 SHP/VPP/R5 NetFront/3.3 SMM-MMS/1.2.0 profile/MIDP-2.0 configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.1.17.06.3.1.17.0)

Well said...this is without a doubt a dry spell of new phones, but there should be relief this coming week or next. Theres a pipeline of new phones on the way, but the z750 could wait up to late April rumor has it. First up should be the Lg VU, a moto flip, and moto z9 model.



Posted by: diamondschwin

yeah i saw one in radioshack 2 weeks ago... weird its not anywhere to be found



Posted by: jpmkam

Quote:
Originally Posted by diamondschwin
yeah i saw one in radioshack 2 weeks ago... weird its not anywhere to be found


Unbelievable...release this phone already.



Posted by: CyberMoto

New phones. By the time they get them. Like the longgg wait on new SE phones. They are to old to be considered to be new.



Posted by: altNz

As you've all said it should be soon as dummy phones seem to show up about a month or so before release.



Posted by: hitman75

The Z750 should be in stores by April 10th; and launching in three colors.



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Yeeesh, hopefully April 10th doesn't turn out to be another Q3 2007, March 8th or March 18th.



Posted by: jpmkam

Any more information on the April 10th release date?



Posted by: SuxBeingU

a solid date. Might even be a few days early.



Posted by: altNz

Wohoo! I don't know why I've waited this long for a phone, but hopefully I won't be disappointed...



Posted by: jpmkam

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuxBeingU
a solid date. Might even be a few days early.


Any guess on price?



Posted by: SuxBeingU

50 after 100 Mail in Rebate



Posted by: jediistar

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuxBeingU
50 after 100 Mail in Rebate


Whats full retail?



Posted by: SuxBeingU

275-300 w/o act is my guess. based on the 150 price before rebate



Posted by: Markdcv

Phone should be on the website on tuesday at midnight, and hit stores with in the week.



Posted by: 1G-Drew

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuxBeingU
50 after 100 Mail in Rebate


Can't complain about that pricing. Well, except that I hate MIRs



Posted by: jpmkam

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...in-early-april/

$49.99 after a $100 rebate.



Posted by: jpmkam

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...50a-for-atandt/



Posted by: Sentra1985

Cool video I just found on Youtube. Said it should be out by the end of this coming week or next. http://youtube.com/watch?v=VNvahzKyIUk&feature=user



Posted by: altNz

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1G-Drew
Can't complain about that pricing. Well, except that I hate MIRs


LOL. Sorry I found your statement so truthful, because that's exactly the reason why companies came up with MIR. Cheers.



Posted by: anubis9278

curious to know why everyone is so excited about this very plain 3G sony?



Posted by: Xplode87

i work in a cor store and we just got a shipment of dark purple and grey SE 750... it looks good imo...



Posted by: aw614

Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis9278
curious to know why everyone is so excited about this very plain 3G sony?

other than the z800 its the first decent looking sony flip imo



Posted by: altNz

Thanks Xplode87, are you guys starting to sell them yet or is it a few days away?

I've been waiting for this phone for a pretty stupid reason: normal triband UMTS phone and wasn't a fan of the K850.



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis9278
curious to know why everyone is so excited about this very plain 3G sony?

I dunno, I figure it's a pretty solid, feature rich phone. Sure it's no smartphone, but for GPS, basic html browsing and 3G with supposed reliability and performance, this phone fits the bill. I hope.



Posted by: 1G-Drew

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiabloAzul126
I dunno, I figure it's a pretty solid, feature rich phone. Sure it's no smartphone, but for GPS, basic html browsing and 3G with supposed reliability and performance, this phone fits the bill. I hope.


Same here. quad-band and other pretty good features in an attractive form factor. Obviously it doesn't have everything, but I don't take photos with my phone, so 2mp doesn't much matter to me.

I guess everything is in the eye of the beholder, but it seems to me to have plenty of features for the dollar.



Posted by: anubis9278

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiabloAzul126
I dunno, I figure it's a pretty solid, feature rich phone. Sure it's no smartphone, but for GPS, basic html browsing and 3G with supposed reliability and performance, this phone fits the bill. I hope.


GPS? it was removed, or do mean using it thru bluetooth with a receiver.



Posted by: anubis9278

granted this phone performs a lot better than current 3g models. especially in terms of battery life. tri band umts with quad band gsm is a plus. gloss faceplate is a nightmare for oily hands. m2 memory cards for me is a downside, since i have tons of micros. i do like the fact sony doesn't cap its m2 size threshold.



Posted by: Barkley

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplode87
i work in a cor store and we just got a shipment of dark purple and grey SE 750... it looks good imo...


Where are you located?



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis9278
GPS? it was removed, or do mean using it thru bluetooth with a receiver.

Was it?

For shame.



Posted by: penpower

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiabloAzul126
Was it?

For shame.


it is available with retail/unbranded z750 AFAIK. If ATT removed the agps in z750, it is definitely a bad move for them as they could promote att navigator with z750's A-GPS. BTW, z750's gps is A-GPS and needed network support for navigation funtion, not like GPS in tilt which has a gps module built-in.



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Wirelessly posted (Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/3.1.10423/1724; en; U; ssr))

Ya, I had only been looking at the euro version demoing the a-gps. I guess I was naive to think at&t wouldn't nerf something.



Posted by: cdavies2000

If it works similar to my unbranded K800i with a recent firmware update then A-GPS should work fine. At least in Google Maps. It picks up the cell phone ID which Google cross-references with their database of GPS positions of the towers so it doesn't really involve the carrier that much.



Posted by: Xplode87

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barkley
Where are you located?


Located in NYC Market 42

the phone is 169.99 with 100 dollar mail in rebate... 20 dollars instant off depending if you take a data/messaging feature of 20 dollars or more... Also to note for all you Nokia N Series fans a Nokia Rep came into my store a few days ago and confirmed that AT&T will be getting the N95 4GB version sometime in the summer... AT&T is suposidly still "testing" it...



Posted by: jefftroll

Its on the main wireless site for ATT tonight. I do not see it on my premier site tonight. Hopefully by the end of the week it will be on premier as well.



Posted by: penpower

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplode87
Located in NYC Market 42

the phone is 169.99 with 100 dollar mail in rebate... 20 dollars instant off depending if you take a data/messaging feature of 20 dollars or more... Also to note for all you Nokia N Series fans a Nokia Rep came into my store a few days ago and confirmed that AT&T will be getting the N95 4GB version sometime in the summer... AT&T is suposidly still "testing" it...


4GB? you mean 8GB, right?



Posted by: penpower

Quote:
Originally Posted by jefftroll
Its on the main wireless site for ATT tonight. I do not see it on my premier site tonight. Hopefully by the end of the week it will be on premier as well.


It is on my FAN, and it is 59.99 after 100 MIR.

BTW, is it under insurance coverage now?



Posted by: bobfrapples

Does this thing have flash with the camera? I think it has flashing lights when you use it, but it doesn't mention that its a LED light suitable for taking pictures like on my w810i. A camera with flash is a requirement for my next phone, which is why I haven't found a replacement yet.



Posted by: altNz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplode87
Located in NYC Market 42

the phone is 169.99 with 100 dollar mail in rebate... 20 dollars instant off depending if you take a data/messaging feature of 20 dollars or more... Also to note for all you Nokia N Series fans a Nokia Rep came into my store a few days ago and confirmed that AT&T will be getting the N95 4GB version sometime in the summer... AT&T is suposidly still "testing" it...


Still "testing" it like they were still "testing" the Z750 LOL, sorry had to say it.

@Jefftroll Thanks I'll trying calling CS and ordering one in the morning, I tried what is supposedly considered the #1 store in the country and was told they didn't have it

@bobfrapples: unfortunately not, the phone doesn't have a LED flash. Personally I don't understand why they don't include them nowadays, even though they're not all that useful, but I would consider them better than nothing. I wasn't aware the phone had a torch light either, but then maybe they snuck in a LED flash and that's why the phone got delayed LOL.



Posted by: newtype2011

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplode87
Located in NYC Market 42

the phone is 169.99 with 100 dollar mail in rebate... 20 dollars instant off depending if you take a data/messaging feature of 20 dollars or more... Also to note for all you Nokia N Series fans a Nokia Rep came into my store a few days ago and confirmed that AT&T will be getting the N95 4GB version sometime in the summer... AT&T is suposidly still "testing" it...


There is no such thing as a Nokia N95 "4GB"...there is a regular one with a microsd slot, and an 8GB (which is all black) with no memory card slot.

But you are right...the phone will most likely be coming to att -



Posted by: TowerDave

Ok, so I think I finally found the upgrade for my Z520A. But I have some questions:

1. How does the XM Radio feature work? Does it require a data plan, or is it like any other radio, over the air and received with an antenna?

2. Does the voice dialing work when you are using MP3 ringtones? On the 520, it doesn't. Or at least it didn't on mine via BlueTooth. I may not have had it set up right.

3. Can I transfer ringtones to it via Bluetooth?

Thanks,

TD



Posted by: Xplode87

Quote:
Originally Posted by newtype2011
There is no such thing as a Nokia N95 "4GB"...there is a regular one with a microsd slot, and an 8GB (which is all black) with no memory card slot.

But you are right...the phone will most likely be coming to att -


Well i had the same reaction to you when i first heard the Nokia Rep tell me that but he confirmed that somehow its the 4GB version... Mabe he was wrong ugh who knows these days with AT&T dropping every good phone lol. i.e SE K850



Posted by: Markdcv

ten bucks says that 4gig will be wayyyyyy over priced.



Posted by: n33d0n3

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplode87
Well i had the same reaction to you when i first heard the Nokia Rep tell me that but he confirmed that somehow its the 4GB version... Mabe he was wrong ugh who knows these days with AT&T dropping every good phone lol. i.e SE K850


I am going to guess that he meant Nokia N95-4 which is the 8 GB version.



Posted by: albertr

Z750a is in stock and available here in some corp stores, Bucks county PA. Gonna stop by and check it out on my way home.

-albertr



Posted by: albertr

Played with the phone at the local store today. GPS functionality was removed from AT&T branded firmware. Also didn't find any firmware OTA update option or options to control outside OLED screen.

-albertr



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Wirelessly posted (Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/3.1.10423/1724; en; U; ssr))

I wonder how easy it would be to flash to the generic SE firmware. Or would the almighty at&t be angry with me not needing their MEdia Mall over a useful feature?



Posted by: 1G-Drew

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiabloAzul126
Wirelessly posted (Opera/8.01 (J2ME/MIDP; Opera Mini/3.1.10423/1724; en; U; ssr))

I wonder how easy it would be to flash to the generic SE firmware. Or would the almighty at&t be angry with me not needing their MEdia Mall over a useful feature?


Is thre any reason to think that it can't be debranded like any other phone?



Posted by: coldsweat

yeap its available on the website now....might give it a spin



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1G-Drew
Is thre any reason to think that it can't be debranded like any other phone?

Yaya, I guess so.



Posted by: jefftroll

Sony Ericsson phones are some of the easiest to debrand. There are a lot of sites that support doing this and that host the firmware. Just check at the SE forums here.



Posted by: cdavies2000

I know this phone only has a 2MP camera which isn't the greatest spec when there are 5MP cameras out there but it is capable of recording QVGA 240x320 video at 15 frames a second which is actually pretty decent.



Posted by: mm1999

I just picked up the grey z750 from the store yesterday. I finally got to play with it a little bit today and installed Google maps. I was able to find my location so I figure it uses A-GPS, even though there is no mention of this in the phone itself.

So far I like the phone, lighter than I expected, love the click noise when it opens, earpiece (in office and home) is fine but haven't tried it on the train yet, haven't tried the camera either.



Posted by: Barkley

Quote:
Originally Posted by mm1999
I just picked up the grey z750 from the store yesterday. I finally got to play with it a little bit today and installed Google maps. I was able to find my location so I figure it uses A-GPS, even though there is no mention of this in the phone itself.

So far I like the phone, lighter than I expected, love the click noise when it opens, earpiece (in office and home) is fine but haven't tried it on the train yet, haven't tried the camera either.


Does it have the option to force/choose the network band (Edge or 3G) ?



Posted by: albertr

It doesn't with AT&T firmware.

-albertr



Posted by: GearTripper

Does this phone model have the Fitness applications w/ AT&T's bloatware?



Posted by: Bpt_Flames

can someone write a review for this phone? I was going to buy it, but id rather know of any naggs or problems before hand.
Is it video calling capable?
did they disable GPS? or AGPs whatever it is
does it have the java nag as the Lg CU500?
what comes with it? USB cable, MM2 card any extras
how to debrand? if possible

Thanks for any answers.



Posted by: jediistar

Earpiece volume...whats the review of that???



Posted by: SuxBeingU

Quote:
Originally Posted by GearTripper
Does this phone model have the Fitness applications w/ AT&T's bloatware?


No Sir, thats on the 580a dn will be on a few future models, from what I read

Quote:
Is it video calling capable?


Not on the ATT branded, unbranded YES
GPS same answer.

comes with Phone, Battery and home Charger. Is Stereo BT, same data cable as most previous models and does use M2 but doesn't come with



Posted by: mm1999

Yep, box only came with phone + battery + charger.

For Google maps, outside I had within 400 meter and inside my office building its 1700 meter.

For volume, I tried using the phone during rush hour coming home on the subway. Was able to hear my gf perfectly fine. A lil low compared to my blackberry but still useable.

As for nags:
  1. I can't use the outside screen in sunlight. Too much glare.
  2. Maybe for some people this will be a nag, but the front screen has a kinda shadowy reflection thing going on with the display as you move around. The light from the time reflects on itself at certain angles so you see double. I like it, kinda cool looking.
  3. Not sure if its just me or its my phone, but I haven't used a SE in awhile, I kinda get a distorted sound at the secondest highest level. I should try turning it down :P
  4. Not sure if I'm just use to the blackberry or its the 3G, but for some calls I make it seems to take an extra 1-5 seconds longer for me to hear the first ring. Doesn't really bother me, but just thought I mention it.

I'll try to take some pictures of the phone and try to post up some pictures taken from the phone later on.

Hope this helps.



Posted by: zerilos

Here's one major neg: the MP3s I've transferred to it so far CANNOT be used as ringtones or text alerts.

I'll keep trying other MP3s, but I think I'll have to use SE's DRM packager developer tool to get them working, so I'll post back with my results. No GPS and network selection also means that I'll likely unbrand this phone using DaVinci.



Posted by: mm1999

The mp3s I've used in my blackberry are usable in my z750. Only thing is they range from 300kb to 600kb in size.



Posted by: zerilos

Quote:
Originally Posted by mm1999
The mp3s I've used in my blackberry are usable in my z750. Only thing is they range from 300kb to 600kb in size.

Now that you pointed that out, the files I tried to use were 3 MB a piece. I'll experiment with it some more to figure out what the filesize limit is.



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Ya the ringtone rule rings true for the w810, I can basically use mp3s and the like that are ~30secs, but full length tracks can't be set to any ringtone. That's what I've found, at least.



Posted by: LEDfoot

Quote:
Originally Posted by albertr
Played with the phone at the local store today. GPS functionality was removed from AT&T branded firmware. Also didn't find any firmware OTA update option or options to control outside OLED screen.

-albertr


So, this phone does have the hardware for GPS?
If it does, I wonder why at&t would disable it? Perhaps they didn't manage to lock it down to work with at&t navigation only they way it seems they did with the Z9?

But then a restore to generic SE firmware should again unlock this capability...


Nevermind, the J2ME version of google maps does not have the capability to access GPS units yet.

So then, did at&t actually disable the GPS, or did they just not include any navigation software? Has anyone tried downloading some other GPS-enabled j2me software?



Posted by: freddyttt

fingerprints on the front?

is it built good?



Posted by: jefftroll

1) Why do you need a full length song as a ringtone when it goes to voicemail after 30secs?
2) Using audacity(freeware) to trim your mp3's to 30 seconds should work.

3)I bought this phone for my wife.
I think the build quality could be a tad better. It has that plastic flip feel like most flips do these days. She was using a samsung a717 flip and that phone is built very well. She water damaged it however which led to this phone since I like my SEW580i. My opinion is that the w580i is built better. I still like the 750 flip and I can't wait to see if there is anything good to unlock. It was easy unbranding my w580 but the only thing useful I could do afterwards that I could not do before was use yahooGo.



Posted by: MCKINNIE

The ringtone limit on all new at&t phones is 300KB. I would debrand it and get rid of all the locks. That's what I did with my w580i and it's a much better phone now.



Posted by: MCKINNIE

Also, This phone isn't showing up on the site for me? Did they remove it already?



Posted by: Radiux36

Odd, I got to play a bit with a Z610i and it seemed very sturdy and well built to me. Is the Z750i really that much worse from its older brother?



Posted by: Barkley

Quote:
Originally Posted by mm08103
Also, This phone isn't showing up on the site for me? Did they remove it already?


It WAS there........ and now it is gone. I did see the purple and pink ones at the local corporate store (no gray ones though). They got about a dozen each of those two colors.

I cannot understand WHY it is now not showing on the ATT site.

Also - has anyone noticed that the online dealers that showed the Z750a as "Coming Soon" now don't even mention the phone?!!???

What in the world is going on?????



Posted by: albertr

Stock is limited. No reason to panic. Probably will become more available in a few weeks.

-albertr



Posted by: cdavies2000

Looks like they removed the link to it on their website. Those idiots!!! They don't have a clue.

The pages are still on the site. Here are the direct links

Pink
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph..._sku=sku2380282
Purple
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph..._sku=sku2380279
Gray
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph..._sku=sku2380276



Posted by: Bpt_Flames

Has anyone tried to debrand it? Is the gps disabled by software or its i different hardware compared to the euro version.



Posted by: DiabloAzul126

Not sure if this belongs here or in the SE Modding/debranding section, but does anybody know if there is an easy way to get rid of all of the AT&T bloat apps/game demos? I mean seriously, the games are like 30 second demos, they just waste my phone memory and take up slots on my menu. I've had my phone for a day and those things are the only annoyances I've run into so far.



Posted by: jpmkam

Quote:
Originally Posted by cdavies2000
Looks like they removed the link to it on their website. Those idiots!!! They don't have a clue.

The pages are still on the site. Here are the direct links

Pink
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph..._sku=sku2380282
Purple
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph..._sku=sku2380279
Gray
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph..._sku=sku2380276



What's that all about? Out of stock already?



Posted by: cdavies2000

Quote:
Originally Posted by jpmkam
What's that all about? Out of stock already?


Good question. I guess that is plausible, I'm sure there is a lot of pent up demand for a half decent SE phone. This phone has only been out since last Wednesday though so thats very poor launch planning by AT&T if they are out of stock already. Its not like they've been marketing this phone at all. Its just typical in this ongoing saga.

I ordered one as an upgrade through the website using the above link. I'll let you know if I actually get it!! Fingers crossed



Posted by: freddyttt

My att store had 10 of each color. i was so looking forward to the phone however it felt very cheap to me.

anyone else!?



Posted by: jpmkam

Quote:
Originally Posted by cdavies2000
Good question. I guess that is plausible, I'm sure there is a lot of pent up demand for a half decent SE phone. This phone has only been out since last Wednesday though so thats very poor launch planning by AT&T if they are out of stock already. Its not like they've been marketing this phone at all. Its just typical in this ongoing saga.

I ordered one as an upgrade through the website using the above link. I'll let you know if I actually get it!! Fingers crossed



Could there have been some late technical faults with the phone discovered?



Posted by: albertr

The phone is back on the AT&T website. Not sure if any other online retailers are able to get it or not yet.

-albertr



Posted by: blacksrt4guy

Quote:
Originally Posted by freddyttt
My att store had 10 of each color. i was so looking forward to the phone however it felt very cheap to me.

anyone else!?


I thought the exact same thing. The way I see it, if a phone thats on display can hold up to all that torture, its a good phone. The one on display had something weird going on with the keypad where it looked like it was coming up and off. And the whole phone felt cheap, like they used really bad plastics. I would never buy that phone.



Posted by: rando191

Hmm, that's too bad--- my keypad is fine. Phone feels incredibly solid, battery door stays on and isn't going anywhere, and the flip is strong. I'm sure their demo unit either just got some serious beating, or was just some display units from a previous show.

Just unbranded the phone to R1EA firmware... GPS functionality is back, SE's Email client is here, makes a great phone even better HSPDA is as fast as ever, full signal everywhere i've taken it today, and still using the original charge from the manufacturer--- which was about 30% !

I wouldn't knock the phone just be that demo unit, at least mess with it while you have the 30 day return policy, i doubt most people will be disappointed.



Posted by: SuxBeingU

Quote:
Originally Posted by blacksrt4guy
I thought the exact same thing. The way I see it, if a phone thats on display can hold up to all that torture, its a good phone. The one on display had something weird going on with the keypad where it looked like it was coming up and off. And the whole phone felt cheap, like they used really bad plastics. I would never buy that phone.



Thats not the phone it the security device they use to secure the phone. They received instuctions today on how to properly display and secure the phone. Tell them to move the "clamp up about 1.5 inches and all is good. or check the ATT intra net site for complete instructions.



Posted by: blacksrt4guy

Amazes me how we have to get a phone and basically reprogram it or hack it to make it what it really was intended to be in the first place. This is the reason I left Verizon and came to Cingular at the time. Verizons lame UI ruined phones. Now att is doing the same thing. Im about to seem edit my Z9 just to get functionality back they took away.



Posted by: RJH57108

Quote:
Originally Posted by rando191
Just unbranded the phone to R1EA firmware... GPS functionality is back, SE's Email client is here, makes a great phone even better HSPDA is as fast as ever, full signal everywhere i've taken it today, and still using the original charge from the manufacturer--- which was about 30% !


OK -- sounds good to me -- at least to unbrand the phone -- so, how is it done -- I looked at the R1EA site, and it appears to have many FW options, and I didn't see how it was done -- can you give a little more info on the procedure, and the location / cost? / to get the FW and how it is done? Does it follow the SE update procedure?

Thanks.



Posted by: rando191

All I did was google Davinci Team, and it brought me to their unbranding site. From there you create an account and purchase 10 credits... That is all you need to unbrand the phone. Once you purchase your credits, you need to download their client and install the USB flash drivers. If you don't want to tinker with the drivers, just download Sony Ericsson's Update Service and run it all the way until it just tells you your phone already has the latest software. That whole process will automatically install the drivers necessary for the DaVinci client to run properly. At that point, log in to the Da Vinci client, follow the on screen instructions to identify your phone, then click on update firmware and choose the latest. Make sure you have decent battery and let it do it's thing.

Pretty simple, just takes some patience... The end result is amazing tho! Now if only i can get streaming to work--- that is my only issue with the unbranding process... (This is just an AT&T issue)



Posted by: jpmkam

Any more news on the availability of this phone with AT&T? Is it available in corporate stores and just not online?



Posted by: SuxBeingU

Jp available at all Corp stores and most agents.



Posted by: ryder1650

I have the phone and the battery ran out 36 hours after a full charge. This was with minimal talking and very minimal internet use. Is this normal? How can I make the battery last longer?



Posted by: RJH57108

Quote:
Originally Posted by rando191
All I did was google Davinci Team, and it brought me to their unbranding site. From there you create an account and purchase 10 credits... That is all you need to unbrand the phone. Once you purchase your credits, you need to download their client and install the USB flash drivers. If you don't want to tinker with the drivers, just download Sony Ericsson's Update Service and run it all the way until it just tells you your phone already has the latest software. That whole process will automatically install the drivers necessary for the DaVinci client to run properly. At that point, log in to the Da Vinci client, follow the on screen instructions to identify your phone, then click on update firmware and choose the latest. Make sure you have decent battery and let it do it's thing.

Pretty simple, just takes some patience... The end result is amazing tho! Now if only i can get streaming to work--- that is my only issue with the unbranding process... (This is just an AT&T issue)


Did it last night -- and it downloaded OK -- after the second try -- used RD version first -- that just was the att branded version -- then the R1ea for phantom grey -- and it is unbranded.

But I noticed that the shoutcut key (activity menu) no longer works -- do you have the same problems -- did I use the wrong FW again???



Posted by: albertr

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryder1650
I have the phone and the battery ran out 36 hours after a full charge. This was with minimal talking and very minimal internet use. Is this normal? How can I make the battery last longer?


Was it on its first charge? Are you on 3G network? How does signal/reception look like in your area?

If the standby time is really that bad, then I'll skip on that phone... In my area it's all 3G with pretty good coverage and signal levels, and I had Samsung A717 before briefly (for a week or so), and noticed that just stand-by time lasted less than two full days... Got rid of it, not interested to charge it every night.
-albertr



Posted by: ryder1650

Quote:
Originally Posted by albertr
Was it on its first charge? Are you on 3G network? How does signal/reception look like in your area?

If the standby time is really that bad, then I'll skip on that phone... In my area it's all 3G with pretty good coverage and signal levels, and I had Samsung A717 before briefly (for a week or so), and noticed that just stand-by time lasted less than two full days... Got rid of it, not interested to charge it every night.
-albertr


This happened on the second charge. I am in a 3G area.

Does anyone have an idea on how to make the battery last longer?



Posted by: n33d0n3

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryder1650
I have the phone and the battery ran out 36 hours after a full charge. This was with minimal talking and very minimal internet use. Is this normal? How can I make the battery last longer?


Have you ever had anything but a GSM phone? If you have ever had a CDMA based phone it burns through the battery faster than a GSM phone. It is just the nature of the beast. I am going to guess (not an Engineer ) but W-CDMA is going to behave a lot more like it's cousin CDMA than it will a GSM phone.

Many people that are going to base their phone purchase on battery life should settle on buying nothing but GSM phones to get the experience they are used to.

I for one am probably going to sacrifice battery life for the quality and network speed of UMTS/W-CDMA over a GSM handset. I think the z750a is a fine mid range handset that should perform admirably for people.



Posted by: ryder1650

Quote:
Originally Posted by n33d0n3
Have you ever had anything but a GSM phone? If you have ever had a CDMA based phone it burns through the battery faster than a GSM phone. It is just the nature of the beast. I am going to guess (not an Engineer ) but W-CDMA is going to behave a lot more like it's cousin CDMA than it will a GSM phone.

Many people that are going to base their phone purchase on battery life should settle on buying nothing but GSM phones to get the experience they are used to.

I for one am probably going to sacrifice battery life for the quality and network speed of UMTS/W-CDMA over a GSM handset. I think the z750a is a fine mid range handset that should perform admirably for people.



So having only 36 hours of charge when the rated standby time is several days is normal?

I am coming form a Z520a and used the internet all the time on that phone and got 4-5 days per charge.

My phone has been off the charger for only 4 hours and it has already lost about 15% of battery life. I have yet to even flip the phone open all day and the battery (using the indicator on the outside screen) has already fallen that much.

Do you all know a way to make the battery last longer?



Posted by: albertr

Yes, I've had a CDMA phone long time ago, used to charge it every 3-4 days.

Not looking for anything less than that. In fact, it was so much buzz on how Z750 is supposed to be better than Qualcomm-based phones... Is it, really?

36 hours of stand-by time doesn't look very promising...

ryder1650, do you use the AT&T branded firmware which came on the phone originally? Or did you flash it to the unbranded one?

-albertr



Posted by: ryder1650

albertr, I am using the original ATT firmware.



Posted by: Bpt_Flames

Quote:
Originally Posted by albertr
Yes, I've had a CDMA phone long time ago, used to charge it every 3-4 days.

Not looking for anything less than that. In fact, it was so much buzz on how Z750 is supposed to be better than Qualcomm-based phones... Is it, really?

36 hours of stand-by time doesn't look very promising...

ryder1650, do you use the AT&T branded firmware which came on the phone originally? Or did you flash it to the unbranded one?

-albertr


You would be surprised how much better this phone is compared to older 3g phones. I renember my Lg Cu500, i would have to charge every night, after two 20 minute calls it was down to the last bar. Every day charging was neccesary. I think this is only an issue because GSM phones have been getting 8+ hours of talk time, and then a drastic change to 3 or 4 hours. I would say is decent, i can use is it moderatly and have it at 3/4 or 5/8 full at night, i charge every two days, its not good to charge too much or to use it until it turns off.


Also people who have unbranded it whats your experience with it? any lost or gained functionalty, i heard someone say GPS is enabled, is this aGPS or the real one? Can you still stream vids like from youtube or tinytube?
I hope its real GPS because the google maps my location is never accurate for me, its no where near me, and to tell you the truth i wont want to relly on it for actuall directions.



Posted by: cdavies2000

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bpt_Flames
You would be surprised how much better this phone is compared to older 3g phones. I renember my Lg Cu500, i would have to charge every night, after two 20 minute calls it was down to the last bar. Every day charging was neccesary. I think this is only an issue because GSM phones have been getting 8+ hours of talk time, and then a drastic change to 3 or 4 hours. I would say is decent, i can use is it moderatly and have it at 3/4 or 5/8 full at night, i charge every two days, its not good to charge too much or to use it until it turns off.


Also people who have unbranded it whats your experience with it? any lost or gained functionalty, i heard someone say GPS is enabled, is this aGPS or the real one? Can you still stream vids like from youtube or tinytube?
I hope its real GPS because the google maps my location is never accurate for me, its no where near me, and to tell you the truth i wont want to relly on it for actuall directions.


The unbranded firmware has a whole extra main menu item for location. It includes a customized build of google maps to work with GPS, location favorites and other GPS based set up tools. Its really cool. I can't believe ATT took it out, guess they want people to pay for their GPS app on their other 'higher end phones'.

The whole user experience is so much better with unbranded firmware. I throughly recommend it!!! :



Posted by: albertr

So you have to charge it every other day? Doesn't seem to be any better than Qualcomm-based phone's. I had Samsung A717 for short period of time on 3G network, and from what I remember, I had to charge it every other day as well.

Guess that my quest for a 3G phone with decent battery life (i.e. stand-by time of 3 or better yet 4 days) is not over yet.

-albertr



Posted by: HazelGirl

How do you flash it with the unbranded firmware? Is there a cable needed? Can someone point me in the right direction? I just got mine yesterday....thanks.



Posted by: Bpt_Flames

Quote:
Originally Posted by albertr
So you have to charge it every other day? Doesn't seem to be any better than Qualcomm-based phone's. I had Samsung A717 for short period of time on 3G network, and from what I remember, I had to charge it every other day as well.

Guess that my quest for a 3G phone with decent battery life (i.e. stand-by time of 3 or better yet 4 days) is not over yet.

-albertr

its a lot better, i get two days use but with moderate usage, like using google maps, opere mini, and a couple calls, many texts. Its ok, i dont mind the battery, if you care more about battery life and are willing to remain with slow internet then do so. My old LG CU500 was a lot worse, moderate use and already turning of by 8pm.

Anyone know a birck and mortar store that sells the DCU-60 cable to connect so i can debrand it? ive called all the cingular stores and none have them, this is weird considering how every single sony ericsson phone requieres the same cable.



Posted by: ryder1650

Can I lock the phone into 2G mode without debranding it? It will probably save a lot of battery if I keep it in 2G and switch to 3G whenever I need to access the internet.



Posted by: SuxBeingU

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryder1650
Can I lock the phone into 2G mode without debranding it? It will probably save a lot of battery if I keep it in 2G and switch to 3G whenever I need to access the internet.


NO you cannot. On the early tester phones you could but it appears in the final version that has been removed, I assume at ATTs request.



Posted by: Barkley

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryder1650
Can I lock the phone into 2G mode without debranding it? It will probably save a lot of battery if I keep it in 2G and switch to 3G whenever I need to access the internet.


Quote:
Originally Posted by SuxBeingU
NO you cannot. On the early tester phones you could but it appears in the final version that has been removed, I assume at ATTs request.


Ok then..... is it possible to force 2G AFTER you unbrand the phone???




Posted by: SuxBeingU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barkley

Ok then..... is it possible to force 2G AFTER you unbrand the phone???


YES ITs one of the SE factory features. When you debrand you should be able to in connectivity



Posted by: D_a_v_e_4444

My wife & I now have the z750a's. So far pretty nice. Battery life isn't what I expected, but when I'm at work I'm in a 3G area, and I think the bluetooth eats a bit even when on standby. I think I'm getting about 2 days, but it's only been a week, so not too conclusive yet.

The most annoying thing is the time for the screen to timeout, it goes dark way too soon. My old LG had a setting for this, but I can't find it in this phone. Am I missing it in a menu somewhere? Is it settable with SE factory firmware?

Thanks,
Dave



Posted by: SuxBeingU

if you're talking about the outer display, I have not found a way to keep it active for very long. Its one of the ways they help the battery last longer



Posted by: D_a_v_e_4444

Hi SBU,

You have been very helpful, thank you.

Actually, I'm talking about the main, inner display. It times out in about
20 seconds. When reading the web, looking at a picture, or even verifying
some info in the contact list it will go dark before I'm ready.



Posted by: SuxBeingU

no way through the regualr menus. I know someone around here has the access to the sectret menus.
somthing like MENU >>#>< some weird series of buttons, holefully someone who knows will chime in



Posted by: SuxBeingU

Found it- right, star, left, left, star, left, star. Though it still won't do what you want BUT is interesting to learn I have a 3319 flip count, who knew they tracked that info



Posted by: D_a_v_e_4444

I've only flipped my phoneo 198 times, better get to work on that.

I found the stop watch tool will keep the screen very dim after 20 seconds,
I wonder how that program does it.....

SBU, you are using ATT firmware right? If so, does anyone know if the non-AT&T firmware allows setting of the main screen timeout?

-Dave



Posted by: RJH57108

Quote:
Originally Posted by D_a_v_e_4444
If so, does anyone know if the non-AT&T firmware allows setting of the main screen timeout?


The unbranded SW doesn't have a timeout setting.

I was looking into having the timeout turned off -- when in the car with a charger and Google Maps running -- but have not found a way to do it yet. One of the mapping programs -- nutimap -- has a backlight on option, but it won't keep it on when the program is in the background. It aparently suspends its operation -- which will probably also negate having one of those programs that sends a trigger every x seconds ...

It seems to have to be part of the program that is running -- hint, hint -- to Google Maps for an update ...



Posted by: RJH57108

Quote:
Originally Posted by RJH57108
The unbranded SW doesn't have a timeout setting.

I was looking into having the timeout turned off -- when in the car with a charger and Google Maps running -- but have not found a way to do it yet.

-- and --

It seems to have to be part of the program that is running -- hint, hint -- to Google Maps for an update ...


I have to give an update ...

I installed the phone holder in my car today, and tried driving around. Google maps has a function that follows the car as it moves -- pressing "0" initiates it. Google maps will keep the display on whenever you are moving and downloads new maps as you move. It will black-out if you are stopped -- but starts the display again when the car starts moving -- sweet!

This is exactly what I wanted -- it will be my GPS on trips. A little smaller than an actual GPS, but to see where you are -- it workks great!



Posted by: bagsy

One way to help save your battery life some is to dim the screen brightness. I had a Z710 before and the screen was SO bright, so I actually dimmed it to 50% and it extended the battery life a lot. The Z750 doesn't seem as bright, so I'm trying it at 80%. The battery seems to better with this than at 100%. Give it a try.



Posted by: Wide_opeN

Anyone going to give a review?



Posted by: albertr

Quote:
Originally Posted by albertr
So you have to charge it every other day? Doesn't seem to be any better than Qualcomm-based phone's. I had Samsung A717 for short period of time on 3G network, and from what I remember, I had to charge it every other day as well.

Guess that my quest for a 3G phone with decent battery life (i.e. stand-by time of 3 or better yet 4 days) is not over yet.

-albertr


Decided to give z750a a try nevertheless, and guess what? Today is my third day after first charge and it still has 30% battery left. Look not that bad afterall.
-albertr



Posted by: tstp

Hi all.
It's time for me to get a new bt headset for my new z750a

How's the PLANTRONICS Voyager 815 Bluetooth Headset?

Any one have?
Or suggestions on a good one.

thanks
tom



Posted by: tjmonkey15

Not sure about that Plantronics model, but I've heard a lot of good things about the Jawbone.



Posted by: SuxBeingU

The Jawbone is about the best BT headset out right now



Posted by: RJH57108

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuxBeingU
The Jawbone is about the best BT headset out right now


I agree -- I have been using the Jawbone for a couple of months -- and I really like it. It has really good noise supression -- it senses when you are talking, to tell your voice from the background. It doesn't do a very good job with wind -- but my previous one (non Jowbone) didn't either.

It has loud tones when you turn it on / off -- but I just do that when it is not in my ear -- so it is an easy work-around.

Another topic -- z750 battery -- I was using the charger (400 ma charger) from a my z520, and the phone did not last more then 3 days. I switched to the one that came with the phone (700 ma charger), and I am going on 4 days, and it has 50% power left! What a difference!

Some other poster mentioned that the charger was changed when they got the phone -- it may be worth checking if you are having battery longevity problems.



Posted by: albertr

Update on battery life: first charge, up four days and four night, light usage (58m talk time, 5 SMS messages, 2.8MB data transfer), screen backlight at 50%, bluetooth is always on and heavily used (hands-free, music/files transfer), still have 13% battery left. Cannot complain!

-albertr



Posted by: blupupher

Curious about the GPS for those that have de-branded, it this using data to work, or does it do it just on the phone itself (I don't want to rack up a ton of charges using it).



Posted by: RJH57108

Quote:
Originally Posted by blupupher
Curious about the GPS for those that have de-branded, it this using data to work, or does it do it just on the phone itself (I don't want to rack up a ton of charges using it).


The GPS itself doesn't use data, so if you just want to know your coordinates, or your speed, then the status program in the z750 won't use data.

But, if you use Google maps, that uses the net to get maps -- so a data plan is needed -- $15 from AT&T will give you unlimited data.





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