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Posted by: coolcatiger

What does this option does ?

Will it erase 3.9 bootloader and upgrade to 4.6 bootloader for older phones with 3.9 BL ?

Posted by: dhendriksen

Why would you want 4.6 bootloader? 3.9 is much better, you can do as you please with it.

Posted by: richy240

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Originally Posted by dhendriksen

Why would you want 4.6 bootloader? 3.9 is much better, you can do as you please with it.

Ok, well, that brings to mind a question: what is the ideal setup for these devices? Now that we can customize the crap out of these things, what firmware, baseband and bootloader versions work best together?

Posted by: wick3d-G

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Originally Posted by richy240

I'm on BL 3.9 (week 38 iPhone), firmware 1.1.3, and the newest baseband 4.03.13_G (unlocked w/ AnySim 1.3).

My iPhone runs smooth like a knife through butter.

I'm just waiting for more 3rd party app developers to make their software compatible with 1.1.3. I think 1.1.4 will be released before we see these updates.

Posted by: Zephyranthes

Sorry for the noob question, but how do you tell with BL your iPhone has?

Posted by: CannibalKidd

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Originally Posted by coolcatiger

What does this option does ?

Will it erase 3.9 bootloader and upgrade to 4.6 bootloader for older phones with 3.9 BL ?

No it won't do that. This option will erase the baseband of a 3.9BL phone. This gives you the ability to then restore to a previous baseband or clear out a previous unlock. Your bootloader will stay the same.

In the new 2.0 ZiPhone there is an option for 4.6 BL phones to downgrade to 3.9, but not the other way around.

Posted by: dhendriksen

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Originally Posted by Zephyranthes

Sorry for the noob question, but how do you tell with BL your iPhone has?

You have been a member of HoFo for nearly 5 years and that is your first post? Oh well, the answer is:

The easiest way to tell is by what week your phone is manufactured. Look at the 4th and 5th digits of the serial number. If it is 44 or below, you should have bootloader 3.9. 45 or higher is bootloader 4.6. All European iPhones have bootloader 4.6.

Richy, my ideal setup is bootloader 3.9, with 1.1.3 firmware, and modem version (baseband) 04.03.13_G.

Posted by: nasa25

@ Cannibal Kidd.....what do you think is the best way to upgrade a 1.0.2 unlocked iphone? I have a 4gb unlocked 1.0.2 (using unlock.pxl). Your configuration (FW/BB/BL) seems to be ideal and I am trying to figure out the best way to upgrade. 1.0.2 has been solid as ever....part of me is saying "if it aint broke dont fix it" and the other part of me wants to test out the newer FW and all the programs that can only run on 1.1.1 - 1.1.3 fw.....whats your thoughts? Thanks.

Posted by: Zephyranthes

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Originally Posted by dhendriksen

Nice it looks like I have 3.9. Thanks!

Posted by: richy240

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Originally Posted by wick3d-G

I'm on BL 3.9 (week 38 iPhone), firmware 1.1.3, and the newest baseband 4.03.13_G (unlocked w/ AnySim 1.3).

My iPhone runs smooth like a knife through butter.

I'm just waiting for more 3rd party app developers to make their software compatible with 1.1.3. I think 1.1.4 will be released before we see these updates.

Yeah, that's very disappointing. I want iToggle to work RIGHT NOW!

I might do that tonight: downgrade the BL and get a hold of 1.1.3's baseband for REAL Locate Me support in Google Maps!

Posted by: Drakkhen

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Originally Posted by richy240

Yeah, that's very disappointing. I want iToggle to work RIGHT NOW!

I might do that tonight: downgrade the BL and get a hold of 1.1.3's baseband for REAL Locate Me support in Google Maps!

PLEASE post a report if you downgrade your baseband - I'd really like to know how that works...

Posted by: richy240

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Originally Posted by Drakkhen

PLEASE post a report if you downgrade your baseband - I'd really like to know how that works...

Lol - me too. I guess we'll find out. The BB downgrade, currently, is the only real way we can brick our devices. That's the only reason I'm hesitant to do it without first reading some others' experiences.

Posted by: shaolinmonk

i want to downgrade my 16 gig from 4.6 to 3.9 as well.. someone test it lol

Posted by: Silverback

I'd do the test if I knew how to fix it if I brick it.

Posted by: wick3d-G

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Originally Posted by richy240

Yeah, that's very disappointing. I want iToggle to work RIGHT NOW!

I might do that tonight: downgrade the BL and get a hold of 1.1.3's baseband for REAL Locate Me support in Google Maps!

Yeah, baseband 04.03.13_G is great! The "MAPS" locate me feature works and is very accurate... far more accurate than the "Locate Me" app. The 2 real programs I'm really missing that work in 1.1.1 + 1.1.2 are taskbar notifier + categories.

Posted by: shaolinmonk

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Originally Posted by wick3d-G

The 2 real programs I'm really missing that work in 1.1.1 + 1.1.2 are taskbar notifier + categories.

they both work on my 1.1.3 phone...

Posted by: wick3d-G

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Originally Posted by shaolinmonk

they both work on my 1.1.3 phone...

Hmmm... after I install categories, it goes back to the springboard and the icon for it never appears.

I will try a refresh on my sources. Also, on the official Taskbar notifier site, the developer says he is working on a 1.1.3 version and that it is currently NOT compatible with it.

Posted by: shaolinmonk

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Originally Posted by wick3d-G

odd... they both work for me... i'm using 1.1.3 with 4.02.13 modem

Posted by: georgi0

i have my jailbreaked anysim activated 1.1.2 firmware version iphone.

what do i do to uograde to 1.1.3 safely?

i run the ZIphone OSX and it returned my phone to same status. No upgrade.

Should I upgrade via itunes? I have 7.6 vers on my mac.

tnx

please specify the options that i should click in Ziphone 2.0

Posted by: richy240

I just came across this post on another site that I thought this thread might benefit from: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpos...24&postcount=25

In summation, DON'T DOWNGRADE YOUR BOOTLOADER TO 3.9!!! If you're "lucky" enough to have 4.6 (per the link above) you might want to keep it around for a while... Just read the post. You'll see what I'm saying.

Posted by: gujeffrey

Sorry for a noob question, but what is the difference between BL 3.9 and 4.6?

Posted by: richy240

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Originally Posted by gujeffrey

Sorry for a noob question, but what is the difference between BL 3.9 and 4.6?

I don't know the exact technical differences personally (I doubt many of us do), but each version has it's own unlock procedure, etc. Poke around on this site a little bit and you'll start to identify the differences pretty quickly.

Posted by: muzzman1

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Originally Posted by Drakkhen

PLEASE post a report if you downgrade your baseband - I'd really like to know how that works...

I did the Baseband Downgrade with Zibri2.0 -b -v -j -a on a 1.1.3, 4.02 jailbroken phone, and ended up with a fully functional 1.1.3, 4.03 unlocked jailbroken phone....it even kept all my apps, Youtube works....I still have not found anything that is not working properly.....Thanks Zibri, and Geohot!
I ran bbupdater to verify the BL went from 4.6 to 3.9, and it certainly did...in fact I compared it to my OTB 1.1.1 phone and they ping was exactly the same!! So Ive ended up with a week 45 phone that is unlocked 1.1.3, jailbroken phone with 3.9BL!

Posted by: richy240

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Originally Posted by muzzman1

Did you read my post above, and the post I linked from MacRumors?

Posted by: wick3d-G

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Originally Posted by shaolinmonk

odd... they both work for me... i'm using 1.1.3 with 4.02.13 modem

I got categories to work. You have to install the current version (1.64) and then after an hour a 2nd update showed up in Installer... very strange

As far as Taskbar notifier, I will have to wait for the official 1.1.3 release. I'm on the newest baseband... don't see why or how it could affect the app, but it does.

Posted by: Drakkhen

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Originally Posted by richy240

Did you read my post above, and the post I linked from MacRumors?

I think many of us are aware of the custom bootloader that 'may' be coming - Hotz himself said that releasing it would be complicated because of legal issues and such...

Even if this is the case, what advantage would this new custom bootloader have over v3.9, which, for all intents and purposes, we have full control over?

On top of that, it would be MUCH easier for apple to segregate and differentiate between a hacked phone and a legit one in the future, and could very well help Apple in the long run.

Example: After this new bootloader catches on, Apple in their infinite wisdom decides to 'deactivate/kill/brick all phones that don't have BL3.9 or BL4.6' (essentially all custom bootloaders), all they would have to do is release a new baseband and firmware. Because there is no security on the custom bootloader, this is going to be simple as pie for them.

They can't do this right now because the userbase of 3.9 and 4.6 phones also consist of legit users. Personally, I think that making a separate bootloader may play right into Apple's hands, as hacked phones can no longer hide under the camouflage and security of the 'legit' userbase.

L.

Posted by: shaolinmonk

i lied.. the taskbar notifier didnt' work lol... i thought it did... i ws being delusional...

but categories does and the new update still does as well...

either way i think i'm going back to 1.1.2 this weekend... i don't like 1.1.3 little things on it annoy me... i can't forward sms anymore.. the group sms isn't any better then isms really .. and i don't like the jiggles...i like the customize way of organizing better...

Posted by: richy240

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Originally Posted by Drakkhen

I think many of us are aware of the custom bootloader that 'may' be coming - Hotz himself said that releasing it would be complicated because of legal issues and such...

Even if this is the case, what advantage would this new custom bootloader have over v3.9, which, for all intents and purposes, we have full control over either.

On top of that, it would be MUCH easier for apple to segregate and differentiate between a hacked phone and a legit one in the future, and could very well help Apple in the long run.

Example: After this new bootloader catches on, Apple in their infinite wisdom decides to 'deactivate/kill/brick all phones that don't have BL3.9 or BL4.6' (essentially all custom bootloaders), all they would have to do is release a new baseband and firmware. Because there is no security on the custom bootloader, this is going to be simple as pie for them.

They can't do this right now because the userbase of 3.9 and 4.6 phones also consist of legit users. Personally, I think that making a separate bootloader may play right into Apple's hands, as hacked phones can no longer hide under the camouflage and security of the 'legit' userbase.

L.

First, I think the new bootloader would have advantages similar to HardSPL on Windows Mobile devices (which I have used extensively and LOVE), but specific to the iPhone versus WM.

Second, I'm no developer, but I'd think that there would be safeguards in place against Apple disabling phones with the custom BL on it, like, I don't know, some sort of masquerade feature? It isn't impossible...

And lastly, we'll have to wait and see anyway. Neither of us know what the future has for us, so the BL will either be released or it won't. And then it will either trick future updates or it won't. But I'm personally leaving myself open to these possibilities, whereas those people who choose to downgrade to 3.9 are not. That's all I'm saying.

EDIT: Anyway, users have the choice whether they want to upgrade to new FW releases or not. If Apple disables the phones upon installation of the new firmware, DON'T INSTALL THE NEW FIRMWARE! It's as easy as that.

Posted by: Drakkhen

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Originally Posted by richy240

EDIT: Anyway, users have the choice whether they want to upgrade to new FW releases or not. If Apple disables the phones upon installation of the new firmware, DON'T INSTALL THE NEW FIRMWARE! It's as easy as that.

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of hacking the iPhone; if you can't install the new updates and features?

Personally the choice shouldn't be made at the point of the firmware release. The choice is: 1) Do you install a custom bootloader and completely differentiate your unit amongst all the legit ones, or 2) Do you dowgrade to 3.9BL so that you can have the newest bootloader as soon as a new anySIM is released?

Posted by: richy240

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Originally Posted by Drakkhen

Yes and no, it wouldn't defeat the purpose of hacking the phone, but possibly defeat the purpose of installing custom firmware - until the firmware is also hacked. Like I said, we should wait and see. Why do something so drastic when you're phone works as it is anyway? Are you just arguing just for the sake of arguing?

I'm not telling people what they should do necessarily - I'm just saying that it might be a good idea to wait and see what happens. You don't have to listen to me - no one does. Jesus Christ, what's so hard about that to understand.

Posted by: Drakkhen

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Originally Posted by richy240

Yes, I am arguing for the sake of arguing. What exactly is so drastic about dowgrading the bootloader? I just think this topic is quite important both from an end user, how business work, and from a developmental level. It needs to be thought about, and it needs to be explored. I think people DO have to listen to you, but they have to listen to all other aspects of the situation. The majority of the people on here just jump on bandwagons like they're trampolines at the blink of an eye without looking at the big picture.

I understand exactly why you are saying, and I find it kind of humorus that you are actually getting worked up at all - If you are going to get frustrated at the glimpse of a point of view that's not yours, you should tell me first so I can agree to everything you say

P.S. - Jesus Christ don't post in these forums.

L.

Posted by: muzzman1

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Originally Posted by richy240

Did you read my post above, and the post I linked from MacRumors?

I did, but honestly that phone is my spare, I could care less, as Im sure the developers will not ignore all 3.9BL owners, Im sure at some point Geohot, etc, will create Custom BL's for all phones....