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AppleInsider: 3G iPhone coming this summer

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Posted by: bobolito

3G iPhone to launch mid-year with Infineon chip - report

By Katie Marsal
Published: 10:00 AM EST

Current iPhone baseband supplier Infineon will provide Apple with a new chip solution for its next-generation iPhone, which is expected to launch by mid-year, investment bank UBS said Thursday.

In a research note to clients, global equity research analyst Nicolas Gaudois said his checks indicate that the German chipmaker will provide a "new systems solution" for the new iPhone HSDPA platform, which will include a digital baseband controller, power management unit (PMU), and radio frequency (RF) module.

"We believe this is one of the HSDPA solutions design wins management referred to as being due to ramp in [the second quarter of 2008]," he wrote. "Consistent with these checks, our Apple analyst Ben Reitzes believes that 3G iPhones will be released by mid-year."

Gaudois added that in anticipation of the move towards HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) -- the most common 3G service for GSM-based wireless networks -- Infineon is ramping down production of the EDGE baseband solution used in the current generation of the iPhone in order to "clean" inventories ahead of the 3G model.

The analyst's mid-year time frame coincides with earlier claims from CNBC reporter Jim Goldman, as well as the general consensus throughout the industry.

It should be noted, however, that Goldman's report on the MacBook Air from the same day fell well short of its mark.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...p_re port.html



Posted by: cingular#1

old news

It will be interesting to see what else apple includes.



Posted by: otsego6

I'll believe it when Apple announces it and then when I see it in stores. I hope it isn't that early. I dont want to see another new one again this soon. First the 4gb disappeared, then they surprise launched the 16GB.

Although it would be nice to get a 3g iPhone. Although I hope they update a lot of the software and include a lot of things that are missing on the current model.

I guess I'm torn. LOL



Posted by: JFLo714

i agree...once i see it on the shelfs...then i will believe it...till then..going to enjoy ol' 4gig lol



Posted by: samc

Question is will it have wifi also? I seriously hope so.



Posted by: bigmike20

Hopefullly they include hsdpa 7.2 or at least at 3.6mbps



Posted by: free_gas

I have a feeling that this one will be locked down hard from the rampant unlocking, the mighty stealth sim won't even save us now!



Posted by: wien19

The WiFi question is a curiosity of mine too. Time will tell.



Posted by: cowboy1964

I see no reason to drop Wi-Fi other than to prevent VoIP. But I don't think AT&T could pressure Apple to do that. Actually, now that I think about it, AT&T should like Wi-Fi and VoIP since it reduces the load on the network. Unless its someone who goes over on minutes consistenly and AT&T is making more off them than the base rate charge.

iTunes should finally be accessible over the cell network. Not that I use it much, but it would be nice to browse when I'm not on Wi-Fi.

What I want to know is, will upgraders be given a discount? No way I'm paying $400 or more just to get 3G, and whatever other improvements are made, a year after buying version 1.



Posted by: WChrisEG

if there is a discount then i am all for it. but i will not be paying 400.00 on something i already have



Posted by: JerryNY

Battery life is the best reason to keep Wifi, and I think it is one thing Apple is going to want to keep common between the iPhone and the iPod touch. Come tomorrow we will know more where Apple is headed as to how they want the platform to advance but I think there are things over 3g that might be more restricted than over Wifi WRT Apple's plans so it may be in Apple's best interest to keep Wifi in there no matter what.



Posted by: jules

Quote:
Originally Posted by samc
Question is will it have wifi also? I seriously hope so.


...are you serious?? why would you even think they would drop wifi??? geez



Posted by: coolcellmunda

Quote:
Originally Posted by WChrisEG
if there is a discount then i am all for it. but i will not be paying 400.00 on something i already have


yeah i agree with you i will not buy another iphone for $400 or more for 3g

but i m sure there are alot of crazy apple fans who will and apple knows it that is why they play these games



Posted by: Haas_Dave

Quote:
Originally Posted by cowboy1964
I see no reason to drop Wi-Fi other than to prevent VoIP. But I don't think AT&T could pressure Apple to do that. Actually, now that I think about it, AT&T should like Wi-Fi and VoIP since it reduces the load on the network. Unless its someone who goes over on minutes consistenly and AT&T is making more off them than the base rate charge.

iTunes should finally be accessible over the cell network. Not that I use it much, but it would be nice to browse when I'm not on Wi-Fi.
1) VoIP would be a bad thing for AT&T, as they lose money to users of VoIP systems (especially with those that offer almost unlimited calling). But, it will probably not affect having the WiFi on the phone in the future.

2) I would want the iTunes Store over cell phone network too, but I bet it won't happen since the 3G will fallback to EDGE at other cases and that would become a network issue if multiple users run it.



Posted by: smoochysquirrel

Ahh just before the Xperia X1



Posted by: bobolito

Quote:
Originally Posted by WChrisEG
if there is a discount then i am all for it. but i will not be paying 400.00 on something i already have

If you sell yours and buy a new one you wouldn't be paying close to $400 in the end. iPhones have a very high resale value.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haas_Dave
1) VoIP would be a bad thing for AT&T, as they lose money to users of VoIP systems (especially with those that offer almost unlimited calling). But, it will probably not affect having the WiFi on the phone in the future.

There are several reasons why WiFi is not a significant threat to AT&T voice services. But the most important are the lack of mobility and the battery life. Wi-Fi doesn't allow for mobililty, so you can't go in your car talking over WiFi. Also, WiFi availability is limited to hot spot locations, is not as widespread as the GSM/UMTS network. Chances are you won't find any available WiFi in a lot of places you go. Wi-Fi is a battery hog and will drain your iPhone's battery very quick when under constant use. You won't get a few hours of talktime over WiFi like you can over GSM or UMTS. Finally, the added complexity of opening a software program to use VoIP and then hope that the WiFi you are connecting to doesn't have a firewall that blocks VoIP traffic which is a common problem, or in many cases the need to obtain the WEP/WPA key and enter it in the iPhone in order to connect to it. So all these things added make it quite cumbersome for the average user to use WiFi for VoIP unless you are a tech geek and know what you're doing. This restricts VoIP users to a small percentage of iPhone users which is not a significant threat to AT&T.



Posted by: smoochysquirrel

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobolito
If you sell yours and buy a new one you wouldn't be paying close to $400 in the end. iPhones have a very high resale value.


There are several reasons why WiFi is not a significant threat to AT&T voice services. But the most important are the lack of mobility and the battery life. Wi-Fi doesn't allow for mobililty, so you can't go in your car talking over WiFi. Also, WiFi availability is limited to hot spot locations, is not as widespread as the GSM/UMTS network. Chances are you won't find any available WiFi in a lot of places you go. Wi-Fi is a battery hog and will drain your iPhone's battery very quick when under constant use. You won't get a few hours of talktime over WiFi like you can over GSM or UMTS. Finally, the added complexity of opening a software program to use VoIP and then hope that the WiFi you are connecting to doesn't have a firewall that blocks VoIP traffic which is a common problem, or in many cases the need to obtain the WEP/WPA key and enter it in the iPhone in order to connect to it. So all these things added make it quite cumbersome for the average user to use WiFi for VoIP unless you are a tech geek and know what you're doing. This restricts VoIP users to a small percentage of iPhone users which is not a significant threat to AT&T.


AHH when life was so simple

WHEN THERE WERE NO MOBILE PHONES



Posted by: otsego6

Quote:
Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel
AHH when life was so simple

WHEN THERE WERE NO MOBILE PHONES


Yes! Agreed.

But what did we do with all of our free time then? LOL

I kill a lot of free time just messing with my iPhone.



Posted by: smoochysquirrel

Quote:
Originally Posted by otsego6
Yes! Agreed.

But what did we do with all of our free time then? LOL

I kill a lot of free time just messing with my iPhone.

I was inventing board games and wishing mobile phones from the sci fi movies were real ad doing a few other things
er can't really mention here.





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