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Posted by: roses5682

I read in the Tmobile thread that sony ericson is comming out with a new phone http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/defa...=en&lc=en&cc=US
it looks pretty cool, however it windows mobile interface. What has your experienc been with such phones. I really like the blackberries but I also am intersted in this phone.

Do you think its worth taking the risk to see if i like it when it comes out??

Posted by: DubDub

Link doesn't work.

I personally will stick with the BB.

Posted by: roses5682

its the sony ericson X1a

Posted by: roses5682

http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/pro...=en,en&cc=GB,US

Posted by: Mr. Bond

The stability of Windows Mobile has always been an issue for me. My BlackBerry OS has been rock hard and reliable, and I get my tasks done much quicker. I suppose it's personal preference, though...

Posted by: AlexKidd1977

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Originally Posted by Opacity

The stability of Windows Mobile has always been an issue for me. My BlackBerry OS has been rock hard and reliable, and I get my tasks done much quicker. I suppose it's personal preference, though...

You mean "rock stable". "rock hard" is not appropriate in this context.

--Kidd

Posted by: Slumber Pass

Wirelessly posted (NakedBerry: BlackBerry7520/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/103)

Maybe he means his Blackberry gets him rock hard?

Posted by: rambo47

I've had a few Windows Mobile devices. I really wanted to like them. I tried. I used several for a month or longer each, just to get used to it. In the end, I hated every one of them. Freezes and crashes, plus lots of sub-menus to get simple things done. If you really have an itch, go ahead and scratch it. Try a Moto Q9h (Global) unlocked. If it's not right for you, eBay it.

Posted by: GregGebhardt

It took SO MANY steps to get anything accomplished with Windows Phone software. Heck the software even got in the way of the basic phone funtions.

Blackberry does not have all the fancy bells and whistles but it works. I have never had my Blackberry crash while using it, ever. Like the other posters say, try it, you will see.

Posted by: roses5682

when ppl comment that it takes more steps to get something done, are you refering to something as simple as sending an e-mail, or mms?

Posted by: basic black

Some things are easier to do on a Blackberry and some things are easier on a Windows Mobile phone. It depends on what youre doing. I've had more issues with the Pearl and Curve than with the Motorola Q9H. They're both excellent OS's. Its all preferrence.

Posted by: AlexKidd1977

I just really like on my BlackBerry that it always feels snappy - and I have my exposed QWERTY keyboard. I've NEVER watched a screen "paint" using my BlackBerry - loading the dial screen on my old HTC TyTN was pretty good compared to other Windows Mobile phones, but you can still watch it draw out the buttons as you wait. It's just "wrong" that I should wait for anything technical on my phone. When I'm ready to make a call, it should work as fast as I do.

If you don't make a lot of phone calls and really prefer a data intensive device, Windows can be better due to lots of available apps - and PIE is better than BB Browser, but now there's Opera Mini for both, so that's almost the same. I REALLY wanted Windows Mobile to work for me because I'm a Microsoft developer and can make my own software for my phone, but ultimately it's just too slow for my taste. I went back to BlackBerry and never looked back. I have plenty of work to keep my busy rather than hobbying with my cell phone.

--Kidd

Posted by: AlexKidd1977

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Originally Posted by roses5682

when ppl comment that it takes more steps to get something done, are you refering to something as simple as sending an e-mail, or mms?

Actually, yes. On my Windows Mobile phone, the shortest path to e-mail someone wsa to click "Contacts" find the person's name (which would involve pulling out the keyboard to search through my ~450 contacts, select "Send e-mail". On my Blackberry, I pull it out of my pocket, press the "C" key followed by a few letters in the name because Search is the default, select if necessary and select Compose E-mail.

The biggest time sucker on the WinMo phone was pulling out the keyboard and waiting for the screen to re-draw and generally waiting on things to respond. With something like a Q9h the keyboard is exposed already, so that would eliminate the screen re-draw, but generally the OS feels more sluggish than BlackBerry.

I would like to try out a Windows Smartphone one day - I've only used the Pocket PC version so I can't really compare too well there. I figure it's the same since I follow the forums and most people complain about the same issues there.

--Kidd

Posted by: Outrigger

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Originally Posted by AlexKidd1977

You mean "rock stable". "rock hard" is not appropriate in this context.

--Kidd

or rock solid perhaps?

I have tried winmo 2003 se to winmo 5 to 6 both pro and standard. I must say I loved windows before I had the berry due to the file explorer and all the tweaks and customizations I could do and did on the winmo. Its true that the berry has so many things locked down, but it is the most rock solid device I have had so far. Granted, things aren't as flashy as some winmo phones, but for the stability and reliability, its worth the trade off for me. I use the email feature a lot, and to me, there's no better devices out there that can do a better job and I have tried most. Or to satisfy your curiosity, why not try them both and pick the one you like? You're in the BB section, so obviously, the answers are biased regardless if true or not.

Posted by: dazbert

I get my WinMo phones for free and it's the only reason I use them. They're not as good as any of the BBs I've had over the years. Even the Touch I have has QA and stability issues and I got it direct from HTC.

Posted by: wase4711

just like so many others have said, I have owned several windows mobile based phones over the years, and the Blackberry Stuff JUST WORKS!!

Posted by: bobes

BB's work but my cavalier was pretty good. one thing I'm not used to which I like on WinMo is the ability to customize home screen. launchers, extra plugins. Also, there's not as many freeware programs out there like palm and WM. Otherwise, BB works great.

Today Plus theme is a great start, but still limited.

Posted by: rambo47

The Blackberry is first and foremost a serious communications tool. While they've added more consumer-oriented features recently it just isn't a multi-media toy and never will be. The ability to watch Youtube videos is not very high on RIM's priority list. If you're honest with yourself about what you're going to be using your mobile for, you'll make a much better choice. Blackberrys are secure and stable. Those are the cornerstones on which they've built their following. Lots of plug-ins and skin-able media players has never been part of the allure. Even so, third party developers are quickly filling even that niche and broadening the Blackberry's appeal. It's in its infancy, but the aftermarket software arena is building steam.

Posted by: adam917

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Originally Posted by rambo47

[...]Even so, third party developers are quickly filling even that niche and broadening the Blackberry's appeal. It's in its infancy, but the aftermarket software arena is building steam.

And this is probably due to their consumer-orientated Pearl & Curve units.

Posted by: rambo47

Producing consumer-oriented devices like the Pearl and Curve was a ground breaking decision for RIM and definitely what has sparked the developer interest in the platform.

Posted by: briareus

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Originally Posted by roses5682

Do you think its worth taking the risk to see if i like it when it comes out??

It's always worth checking out the options. I've just found WM devices to be too flakey for me.

Posted by: vinni_puh

Has anybody compared the WM6 phones ( Moto Q9/ Blackjack ) as compared to Curve? Is WM6 also slow?

Posted by: bigd s14

WM6 is also quite slow. My dad had to switch from a 8830 to a Q9M because of his employer, and he tries to like the Q, but he really doesn't like it, and likes the BB better. BB's in most categlories are much better than WM

Posted by: dimachka

I have never owned a windows mobile phone, but have played with a few and they just seem to constantly be struggling, no such problems with the blackberry. Everything just works exactly the way it should.

Posted by: bobes

another thing about BBs is the lack of 3G (yes I know it's coming) but HTC and Nokia phones for the most part gives you ALL the GSM and 3G bands... If you are a traveler (especially to Japan), that's a big advantage.

Also the need for a bb specific data plan is a PITA.

The inability to get an unbranded & unlocked phone is a little annoying.

I like my 8820 for its stability... OTOH I don't like the fact that I can't customize it.

But I still don't think there's a phone out there that'll fulfill all my wishes [will there ever be one

]... the 8820 and my cavalier are close but not there yet.

Posted by: roses5682

what is the likelyhood that tmobile will get a BB with a touch screen this year with full keyboard, in your opinion? I could upgrade to the curve but I would like a touch screen.

I did see the post on a BB tht had touchscreen a few months back, but I dont want to wait and then nada. I know everything is a risk, but u all seem so knowledgable that you may have a good guage on the probability. If I am going to upgrade to the curve I rather do it sooner than later.

Posted by: CarlGalgano

2 things are always certain, newer better technology will always come out and prices for what is out now will eventually drop. If you sit around and wait for what is next, you wont every buy ANYTHING. I say, unless a model is specifically announced (and a touch screen BB is not, and there is no firm info one will be), I would get what you want based on todays selection.

Posted by: dimachka

roses5682: The first I have heard of a touch screen blackberry is the recent patent that RIM filed. Since this was just filed, and is just in the patent filing stage, I would say that the chances this makes it to production this year is slim to none, go for the curve.

Posted by: AlexKidd1977

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Originally Posted by dimachka

roses5682: The first I have heard of a touch screen blackberry is the recent patent that RIM filed. Since this was just filed, and is just in the patent filing stage, I would say that the chances this makes it to production this year is slim to none, go for the curve.

Agreed. I wouldn't depend on having a touchscreen BlackBerry anytime this year. RIM takes their time testing and developing before releasing each new phone to ensure that virtually all quirks are worked out before shipping unlike many other companies. For example, the only problem I've ever had with my Curve was the calendar sync issue that they released a patch for not long after it was available.

I recommend the Curve. Very solid choice.

--Kidd

Posted by: roses5682

great feedback everyone!

Posted by: lvmychryblsmrzr

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Originally Posted by Slumber Pass

Wirelessly posted (NakedBerry: BlackBerry7520/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/103)

Maybe he means his Blackberry gets him rock hard?

Nice, depends on what he's checkin out on the browser.

Posted by: asher_n

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Originally Posted by bobes

another thing about BBs is the lack of 3G (yes I know it's coming) but HTC and Nokia phones for the most part gives you ALL the GSM and 3G bands... If you are a traveler (especially to Japan), that's a big advantage.

The exytra bands are an advantage. 3G may or may not give you a speed increase. Certainly won't matter for emails. And it WILL draw your battery down faster.

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Also the need for a bb specific data plan is a PITA.

It's a data communication device first and foremost. Of course you need a data plan. The need to run through the RIM infrastructure is what requires the BB data plan. It also provides better routing to devices. [/quote]

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The inability to get an unbranded & unlocked phone is a little annoying.

But that affects what percentage of the users? unbranded, likely less that 0.1%. unlocked, again very few, and you can get your phone unlocked by the carrier.

Posted by: MinisterStanley

I have been on both side of the fence and keep coming back to Blackberry. If you like to tinker all the time with your phone and don't mind quirks in the OS (like phone lockup) then the Windows Mobile OS is fine. If you really need your device to work without much thought, then the Blackberry is the key. I have been through many versions of Windows Mobile, and keep coming back the Blackberry.