I love SE but whats the deal?

Originally Posted by RLP06

If they made a device like that, no one would buy Sony Mp3 players or Sony Cameras.... they gotta think about their other divisions....

Do you not think SE has thought of making the perfect device? Of course they have... are they ever? NO

Originally Posted by RLP06

If they made a device like that, no one would buy Sony Mp3 players or Sony Cameras.... they gotta think about their other divisions....

Do you not think SE has thought of making the perfect device? Of course they have... are they ever? NO

Nokia N82 is pretty damn close to being the perfect phone, except its ugly

Originally Posted by marktang

alot of nokia looks really good on paper but when u actually use it that's another story. in my opinion both companies are targeting different customers. so u cant really say who's better and who isnt. like Nokia they try to pack everything in their phones but the battery life sucks so whats the point of having so many functions if your battery cant even last that long.
SE is targeting more the average buyers. who might just need a camera or just a mp3.

Originally Posted by RLP06

If they just stuck a xenon flash and 850band on a P1i, it'd be the perfect device

Originally Posted by marktang

alot of nokia looks really good on paper but when u actually use it that's another story. in my opinion both companies are targeting different customers. so u cant really say who's better and who isnt. like Nokia they try to pack everything in their phones but the battery life sucks so whats the point of having so many functions if your battery cant even last that long.
SE is targeting more the average buyers. who might just need a camera or just a mp3.

Originally Posted by marktang

alot of nokia looks really good on paper but when u actually use it that's another story. in my opinion both companies are targeting different customers. so u cant really say who's better and who isnt. like Nokia they try to pack everything in their phones but the battery life sucks so whats the point of having so many functions if your battery cant even last that long.
SE is targeting more the average buyers. who might just need a camera or just a mp3.

Originally Posted by Fire Dragan 418

I'm gonna get X1, but the price...

Originally Posted by marktang

oh i know alot of ppl have bad experiences with battery life in the Nseries, myself included. i use the phone alot and i cant get 1 day out of the battery even with N95 8GB. even my tytn II and cruise gets at least 2 days.

Originally Posted by newtype2011

I won't disagree with you here. Many SE phones usually have 7-9 hour talk times and extremely long stand-by times...but that's just the thing...if your spend the majority of the time using your phone for calls and texts only, of course the battery will last forever. I'd rather have a mini-computer in my pocket that is with me at all times than a device that is running on 2 year old technology. And in reality, most people don't restrict their device use just because the battery will run out in a day.

I will be the FIRST person to pick up a quadband SE that has wifi, af cam, and 3.5mm jack that runs on the A200 platform. That would be a sweet device. The X1 is cool, but I would like to see some mid-range SE phones (price-wise) with similar features -

Originally Posted by Matts_k790a

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As everyone else would agree. A device with that stuff for 350-450 would sell like no ones business (watch the N82 in the next few-its the nokia version of what we want for 600 bucks). Or they can pump out 3 phones that each have 2 of those features and sell lots more phones to the same people. It sucks. They know there markets and how to work them.

Originally Posted by Phone Diva

No Qualcomm is the reason. They are still in a legal fight with them, and Qualcomm makes the multi-band radio chips they'd need.

As of now, they use Broadcomm chips, which only seems to do dual band 3G chips at the most. That's probably the reason for different N95 versions.

Originally Posted by Phone Diva

Because the mainstream US market still likes free or cheap carrier phones more. We're the exception here, not the rule. One good thing about the iPhone is once people break out of that cheap or free mode then we can make some progress, and both Sony and Nokia will make more effort in our market.

Originally Posted by Phone Diva

Also remember that US carrier restrictions slaughter phones. Perhaps they are not willing to let all their good phones get watered down.

Originally Posted by Matts_k790a

this **** has ben covered so many times.

Originally Posted by newtype2011

What does that have to do with Nokia or anyone making phones for the US market? There's not enough incentive to make high end US phones, is what I was trying to say. Due to many US buyers always wanting the cheapest or free phones.If they have the audacity to bring the Euro phones here, tweak the FW, change the contents of the box, etc, than they should have the decency to make two versions of the phone. The ONLY reason I say this is because they release the Euro version here, only to release the "proper" phone several months later.

**They know that they will be releasing the US version soon, yet they still release the EXACT same phone here, minus the 3G band.** That is called milking the market for everything they can...they know many people who are currently buying their high-end devices may dump the euro versions and get the US 3G ones. Look at the N95-1 to the N95-3 exodus that happend....That is why I always urge everyone to wait at least 4-6 months to get ANY Nseries device released here...you may get burned if you don't.




This has nothing to do with why Nokia will not release two versions of the phone at the same time. Well Nokia should be aware now that many Americans insist on getting subsidized phones through carriers. Often when Nokia agrees to this, the end products sucks. E62 is a shell of the E61 and people say much stuff was disabled on the branded N75. Perhaps Nokia doesn't want any more of that.Nokia quite easily sells the phones themselves. Not only that, they have totally branched out and are now offering them through MANY online retailers, some often being cheaper than Nokiausa themselves. I'd say 95% of the people here on Hofo did NOT buy their Nokia from Nokia directly. I don't work for Nokia so I obviously do not know what they are thinking, but from the outside looking in, it is all about money at the expense of our loyalty. They rush the phone to the US market, cash in, pull the euro phones, then release the version that should have come out in the first place. Just look to the N95-3 and N95-4 of examples. Those are the phones that SHOULD have come out here instead of the euro versions -

Originally Posted by Phone Diva

My thoughts in red, on your reply to my post.

I understand why you're cynical and I guess I should be too, but I think Nokia and Sony both have cold feet about the US market because we are like no other. They release the Euro versions first to see if there's even an interest in the phone here. They see what sticks, and then send out the US version. Maybe not the best way to do business here, but that's what I think anyway. It's speculation on my part since I don't know what their thinking process is either. Having said that, there's much love for the N82 so where's the US version, Nokia? LOL!

Originally Posted by marktang

or if North American used the same frequency as everyone else then we wont have a problem at all in the first place lol

Originally Posted by Moe3754

T-mobile is 1700/2100 3G frequency,1700 transmit,2100 receive,it is the old Government frequency that they purchased last year!!!

Originally Posted by expensive.taste

I know this maybe a dumb Q to some but what is the EDGE freq??? i am looking for a SE phone i can use EDGE on

Originally Posted by Moe3754

T-mobile is 1700/2100 3G frequency,1700 transmit,2100 receive,it is the old Government frequency that they purchased last year!!!