Anyone seen the LG Vu..?

Originally Posted by prime_minister

I've been reading up on it and it is 'supposedly' going to ship tomorrow and arrive a few days thereafter...

I'm thinking this is going to be a huge seller and a solid alternative to the iphone...I just hope LG can keep them moving, because in my store we are just now having everyday stock of the LG Shine.

Any idea if this will be used with MediaMax or PDA data plans? Or if it will be Insurable..?

Originally Posted by smg1976

If we actually get it (like the supposedly nixed SE K850 and Nokia N95 for our network), it is definitely NOT insurable.

Originally Posted by zonderF

I've played with one, the tv part was cool but I wasnt a fan of the touch screen, it wasn't near as good as the iphone's. Someone said it was the poor man's iphone, and that seemed like a good description of it.

I also heard that it would be $30 for unlimited data and tv service, but who knows anymore because that was over a month ago.

Originally Posted by snoopdarr

Vu won't launch until TV does... which is now May? Who knows anymore... MediaFLO's footprint is so tiny it's useless

Originally Posted by smg1976

I've read $299 will be the price of the phone.

I wonder if non-3G markets will get both versions, or just one. I would think the company would want to get as much feature revenue as possible, and ship mostly CU920's, since there's an external antenna for the TV function.

Video review:
http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-99...feed&subj=Crave

Originally Posted by SuxBeingU

I Am Hearing June

Originally Posted by Stea1th

Just because most peopel say it, it's wrong

Originally Posted by VOLTACO

No, not at all. In fact I'd like to see people's faces when you tell them about your new LG "Voo".

Originally Posted by Stea1th

customers will be told
it's the "voo" unless I hear other wise from either Cnet or some large
creditable source.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

I've done it already.

A few customers have already asked for it, and I put a puzzled look
ony my face, and go. "oh you mean the voo..."


Honestly, I could see it being called the "view" but they should of
either made it actually spelled "view" or make both letters
capital.

Having it Vu and not VU makes me say voo, and customers will be told
it's the "voo" unless I hear other wise from either Cnet or some large
creditable source.

Originally Posted by tendura

I heard a price of 299 AFTER MIR and data features. Looking forward to playing with it.

Originally Posted by cingman66

Do you really think LG wants it to be called the VOO, especially since it is a TV phone which would indicate that one could VIEW it?

Originally Posted by timburke

Do you really think these will sell? And if they do, do you think they'll actually be able to get a signal? Or this actually a phone from LG that doesn't suck?

Originally Posted by cingman66

Well, since the LG Shine has been a phenomenal phone SO FAR (=skeptical), I have a little faith in this phone. No doubt people who don't want to shell out $400 + for the iPhone will give it consideration. Even the data is cheaper (on the CU 915) by $5/month. At the very least, it gives us (Agents) a way to keep more potential iPhone customers from leaving the store and going to Apple to get one. I get at least one call or customer a day looking to see if we carry the iPhone, and now I can sell them a "somewhat" comparable phone for half the price. What's not to like about that?

Originally Posted by prime_minister

Did ya'll see the Samsung Access as well? Holy crap what a piece of junk. It's like a 727 in a BJ2 case but with MediaFLO. Samsung is really starting to slip (see also - a437, 737, SLM).

I don't expect anyone to pay $199 for the Access, especially if we will be offering $200 off the next gen iPhone (rumor).

Originally Posted by VOLTACO

No I didn't even bother to look for it. Saw it on Cnet or something and I thought it sucked there, I can't imagine how much more it would suck in person.

I just want a phone that doesn't suck, is easy to text with (gf, ), has a decent camera, SD slot, 3G, Wi-Fi would be cool, GPS would be cool, HTML obviously, good battery & reception, music, big-*ss screen. Dont really care about email a whole lot. Never had QWERTY but it looks like it would be nice, is it worth it?

Any suggestions?

I really like my D807. I think its well built, but it doesn't have everything listed above, obviously

Originally Posted by timburke

the LG shine is terrible...i had one for a week. took it back. why? i was right in front of a damn AT&T tower. NO SIGNAL. while I had full signal on my v3xx.

also, regarding agents selling this as a comparable phone, people won't buy it. why? because it's not apple.

Originally Posted by lowkey16

sure the data is cheaper by $5, but how many people that would buy a phone like this would not have some kind of text package? not to mention i doubt the internet is as good as it is on the iphone

Originally Posted by lowkey16

uhh, Cingman you do know that we've been selling the v3xx for something like 16 months (and looks like it'll be around for another year or so as we're about to get a refreshed version)...dont you think that might be the reason you've done a few more returns of it than the Shine? i've had numerous Shines come back because the slider part came loose within 2 weeks of purchase and even more randomly shut off and force the customer to pull the battery out just to get it to turn back on. not to mention it's just like every other LG and has horrible reception quality...though not near as bad as Samsung's.

Originally Posted by socosurf4

570 no commit price
420 2yr POS w/ 100 back rebate

Originally Posted by ATnt-RSC

I second the Shine being a good phone. I'm skeptical of LG, Nokia, and Sony. The LG Shine and Sony W580 launched at the same time, I was hesitant over both. Only one has turned out to be a piece of crap and that's the Sony. LG Shine is a great phone and the only one I've had someone try to return was one dropped into a toilet.

Originally Posted by socosurf4

Personally the Sony I sell alot of, they hold up really well. Its those SHINES that we have countless blue tooth issues with. that phone sucks

Originally Posted by SuxBeingU

played with one yesterday, not worth the money. I don't think most people mind paying 300 for a kcickass phone But don't try to sell this as a kickass phone. It has to be top notch to get that kind of money.

BTW the SE 580 is the most popular non PDA phone at ATT and the #2 phone over all. If it were crap all the reps would quit selling it

Originally Posted by cingman66

Have to agree here, as the SE 580 has been a top-notch phone in this market as well. Awesome reception, intuitive (albeit different than any other phone's) interface, lots of extras in the box, nice screen and pretty good camera. Only downside is the tiny keyboard.

As for the VU, it is selling for $249 here (non-tv version) and we could very easily offer it for $200 and still make money...so we are marketing it as "half the price" of an iPhone and I think it will sell extremely well.

Originally Posted by lowkey16

hahaha, half the price of the iphone...with no real internet and 0GB of storage. not to mention the touch sensitivity is not nearly as good as the iphone and if you think people are scared they'll break the screen on the iphone...wait until they realize the screen on the Vu is plastic

Originally Posted by cingman66

You say to-may-to, I say to-mah-to. Everyone can be as negative as they want about the VU, but the real salespeople will find a way to market AND sell it with no problem. I will continue to tell customers that it is "half the price" of the iPhone, and that at least they are getting a discount for their 2-year agreement, as well as pointing out the other "benefits" of the VU. That is part of doing my job as a salesman, and that is how I earn a living. Every phone can be picked apart, but we still have to sell them

Originally Posted by Stea1th

actually your probably the worst type of salesmen, cause instead of selling
a phone that's actually good, you'll do it just to benifit yourself.

I guess that's the type of person you are..me personaly I push products
I know will actually be good for the customer and not just to put money in my pockets

Originally Posted by cingman66

You really need to get over yourself...how can you pretend to judge what type of salesperson anyone is? Where did I say that the VU wasn't a good phone? I said the VU had certain benefits that a customer who couldn't afford the iPhone might want, and that I would point those benefits out and sell them a VU. How is that wrong? If you want to talk about bad sales ethics than you have no further to look than AT&T--On-line sales and COR stores--they sell every piece of crap there is no matter how bad--so who is looking out for the customer then?

Agents are independent and do not have to push whatever AT&T is trying to get rid of that month. Good Agents (and good salespeople, like myself) don't sell phones that suck--we only buy (from AT&T) and sell phones (to our customers) that have a proven track record. That's why you never saw an LG 1500 leave one of my stores. We give our customers GOOD advice about which phone will best suit their needs, and then sell them a decent phone...unlike the Web experience, where customers are left to choose a phone simply by lowest price and then get stuck with a crappy phone, or a COR experience, where they will most times be sold whatever AT&T has on sale that month (currently the A-737 piece of crap), plus $75 in unwanted and unnecessary accessories.

So the next time you want to call somebody out about their sales ethics, get your facts straight.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

a bit defensive huh...


You're the one that said they will push the vu because it's 1/2 priced..seems
like a cheap ploy to get a customer to buy the phone. Why not try and convice them that even though the Iphone is more its a better phone with
a good backing up support, as opposed to LG which is far from reliable.

just like a typical salesmen you are being contradictive

saying price point "1/2 the price of the Iphone" as opposed to quality.

please end yourself..you're making it worse

Originally Posted by cingman66

How is saying it is half the price a cheap ploy? Sounds like you are defending the iPhone. Part of sales is marketing, and stating the price difference as "half" is a proper way to explain that it is cheaper. I never said it was better, merely less expensive. I also point out all the benefits of the VU over the iPhone, such as being able to send an MMS directly from the phone, or the 3G speed. If a customer values those features (among others) and is price conscious, then maybe the VU is for them. I point out the good features of the iPhone as well and then let the customer make up their own mind. So, just how am I being contradictive?

You need to take a look in the mirror before passing judgment on others...and learn proper grammar for Pete's sake--it's hard enough to understand what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

I love when people have to get into grammar arugments because they can't
think of anything else to defend themselfs with.

If a customer wants to send MMS and have 3G speeds you would then
choose a different phone with maybe a better camera. The Vu camera leaves
much to be desired and for the price, you could easily find a cheaper 3G phone
with a better camera for half the price. So again..you really don't know much
what you are talking about and it's sad really. A price point is not a good
way of selling unless the product itself as the backup. People learn the hardway 3 months down the road when reps or people like yourself recommend
phones that are cheaper and end up breaking or not working out as good.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

I love when people have to get into grammar arugments because they can't
think of anything else to defend themselfs with.

If a customer wants to send MMS and have 3G speeds you would then
choose a different phone with maybe a better camera. The Vu camera leaves
much to be desired and for the price, you could easily find a cheaper 3G phone
with a better camera for half the price. So again..you really don't know much
what you are talking about and it's sad really. A price point is not a good
way of selling unless the product itself as the backup. People learn the hardway 3 months down the road when reps or people like yourself recommend
phones that are cheaper and end up breaking or not working out as good.

Originally Posted by cingman66

Thank God customers have you on their side to sell them more than they actually want, just because you know what is best for them. A real Humanitarian.

Too bad you write like you have a second-grade education. And it seems to me that I defended myself very well even before I pointed out your lack of grammar (and spelling) skills.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

Defended your self well? Recommending a LG Vu, when they want to send
MMS and have 3g? Obviously you have no idea about phones when you
say a stupid statement like that. There are tones of phones that are less expensive
or even the same price that do the same and are A LOT better.

please learn more about the phones you sell and try to worry less about grammar on a internet forum

Originally Posted by BAspeedbird

There!

How's that from a star salesman. Don't question his intelligence Cingman, just settle and know he is superior.

...and why shouldn't you? Doesn't he back his assertions with extremely articulate logic. He said, "I don't think I know more, I know I do."

I don't think you will be able to counter that.

Please let him win...the poor soul...

Please clarify: "I've been in sales longer than you've been out of diapers." ......Can you prove that Cingman...?

Originally Posted by Stea1th

LG being over priced isn't an opinion, it's a fact.
The phones are horrible.

Originally Posted by CellOne508

You sound like a child who does not get his way, so why don't you just take your ball and go home. So far the LG VU is selling quite well and customer love the wow factor of the touch screen. I think it is great that AT&T is finally getting some phones that excite the customer, I myself have not been a big fan of the LG products of the past, but when it comes to the LG Shine I can at least say that customers are excited to buy the phone and have had very few issues so far. As a salesperson we are all here to inform the customer of the options but in the end it is the consumer that choses what he or she buys. We have all had horror stories with a particular phone manufacturer and model but this does not disqualify the manufacturer from selling the product to our AT&T customers, the next phone they put out might be the next best thing to the all mighty I phone sliced bread.

Cellone508

Originally Posted by Stea1th

people actually vomit when they see the vu after using an iphone

Originally Posted by classylady78

You are arguing over your opinion on the phones.

Originally Posted by smg1976

Can we start a new post about different phone brands besides LG and Apple (i.e. SE, Samsung, Nokia, Moto), and compare notes about what the pros and cons of the phones are? This post went from "when is the Vu coming?" to almost everyone bashing something that hasn't even had a chance to survive.

I'm not saying it's a good phone or a bad phone. However, in my brief time spent with the Vu, which wasn't as long as the time I've been using my iPhone (since last summer), I think there a pluses and minuses for both phones (see earlier post).

Originally Posted by stivo1982

I just got to play with the VU today, I was looking forward to getting it but I was let down, it seemed non responsive in some areas, I am not a fan and for the price it should look and feel a lot better imo, it will be hard for me to sell this phone when I do not support it for the price. It may be that my store got a buggy one but still I was less than impressed by this phone.

Originally Posted by stivo1982

update.....i sold the phone today, customer loved it....well it was one of those spoiled little kids where daddy will get them anything so hey as long as she is happy and gets to brag to her friends about having a touch screen phone then more power to her, i am just happy to have it gone.

Originally Posted by cingman66

This totally supports my point about the VU...no one said it was a great phone or even a good phone--compared to the iPhone. But it is what it is, and there IS a market for it. Let's just focus on the good points it has and sell it to customers that want it.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

Supports my point that you push product that is crap..I feel bad for your
customer base that actually feeds into your bs.

Originally Posted by Skins_kg

Kid... he didn't push it... the girl wanted it.. have you ever sold a 6085? That thing was junk...but some people wanted it. Give it a rest..

Originally Posted by Stea1th

Its your duty as a rep to let the customer know that phone is garbage and show how spending a little more is worth it. They are not only spending 300 dollars on the phone, but agreeing to spend 2 years with the company.

Originally Posted by Skins_kg

30 days my man....30 days... Why would you put down a phone that the company endorses and expect them to want to stay for 2 years? You have to sell a phone on what features it does have.. not nit pick at flaws, or else you couldn't sell any of our current phones.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

Its your duty as a rep to let the customer know that phone is garbage and show how spending a little more is worth it. They are not only spending 300 dollars on the phone, but agreeing to spend 2 years with the company.

Originally Posted by SuxBeingU

not really. Your job is to qulaify the person and suggest. You cannot disparage any phone or manufacturer. If you're smart you won't even disparage you competition. Ultinately the customer makes the decision BUT you should be good enough to steer them to the handset you want them to choose

Originally Posted by Stea1th

Wrong.

"I'm interested in the Vu"

"oh okay, I don't recommend that phone and for it's price there are
a lot other better alternatives"

"wow really thanks for letting me know, you're the best rep ever
I'll take 2 iphones then"

Originally Posted by Stea1th

There is penty of good phones, and there are even more that are better then the crappy vu. I'm not saying to put down all phones but why go through the headaches of selling a phone that is pure garbage. Tell the customer there is other phones that have the same features and don't suck as much as the overprices vu

Originally Posted by Stea1th

wow...the boston globe???? They said it was a good phone.? Well then I stand corrected
and take back everything I ever said. If such a creditable writer for the globe is
saying it's great phone..then it must be!!!!

Let me give you some tips with my bad grammar, and hopefully you can walk away
with something. The boston globe is not the best place to obtain phone
opinions. Lets be for real, it's boston. No one likes boston and it smells. While
you might think the LG VU is a good phone, In reality, it's a horrible, cheap, overpriced,
and functionality (which i don't think you even know what it is on a phone) is by far
one of the worst I've ever encountered. If you want to slap your customers in the face
then go ahead and keep pushing this horrible phone. I myself and the rest of the good
workers of at&t will be saving customers from the headache of what is this electronic
mistake. Since this phone has launched, it's sold about 4 unites..which is pretty bad.
It isn't "treo" bad, but it's pretty close. Maybe you should go into editing correspondence
instead of selling phones. It's a shame you push product that you
don't know much about.

Originally Posted by cingman66

Good Lord, you are high-strung. And you keep missing the point--nobody here is "pushing" any phone in particular. What we (and by we, I mean everyone else here on the forum besides you) are saying is to listen to the customer, give them the pro's and con's of each phone, and sell them what they want. You are the only one here who seems to think that their opinion is the only valid one and that you know so much more about phones than your customers and every sales rep on this forum.

Let's put it another way--I have already forgotten more about sales and the cellular industry then you can ever hope to learn. And I can spell.

As for the Globe and Boston...how many ways can you find to show your ignorance?? The Globe is a well-respected newspaper with Pulitzer-prize winning writers, and Boston is a great city, adored by millions. With every blanket statement of hate that you write you just show the world how incredibly naive and ignorant you really are.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

Little food for thought, one of the financial supporters of the globe is a little
electronic company called "Lifes Good"

Originally Posted by VOLTACO

Actually, the current name of the company is LG, an abbreviation of "Lucky Goldstar," the name of the company formed by the merger of the Lucky and Goldstar brands, sometime after 1947. In 1995 it was changed to just "LG". And "Life's Good" is just their tagline.

-VT

Originally Posted by Stea1th

Actually they dropped the lucky goldstar named and went with Life's Good. but hey, i guess we all can google info and restate it as a fact.

Originally Posted by VOLTACO

Umm, no. The name of the company is LG. The tagline is Life's Good. I thought I was pretty clear on that.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

you were pretty wrong if thats what you mean.

The Company's name is "life's Good electronics"


Whether you want to believe that or not is a different question.

Look it up on the FCC site, it says it there.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

I'm looking at it right now, and it says it. You should really learn to read.

Originally Posted by smg1976

I'm starting to be able to read through these posts a whole lot quicker since it's a potato-pototto discussion now.

We went from agent vs. cor to what friggin LG stands for. Who cares?

Served, with a side of sarcasm.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

In 1995, it was renamed "LG," the abbreviation of "Lucky GoldStar". More recently, the company associates its tagline "Life's Good," with the letters LG.

Originally Posted by cingman66

More accurately, it is Stea1th vs. the forum..since he is wrong all of the time and we like to point it out when it happens.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

The ironic part is i'm not wrong..I've actually been right and you guys
don't want to listen.

Originally Posted by Stea1th

I sold a vu yesterday