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Posted by: adamm22

What is the best size and video/audio format for watching videos on the pearl 8130?? I searched the forums, but didn't find any info.

EDIT: Whats the best/easiest way to convert DVDs for viewing on the pearl?


Posted by: moto227

im not going to make a recommendation on any particular software because there are many titles that work. just do a google search. the software that comes with the pearl, roxio media manager, does a good job. when you transfer a video file such as avi or wmv or mpeg or whatever, it will give you an option to optimize the file for playback on the pearl. works great. just takes a little bit of time to convert the files.


Posted by: adamm22

is there a way to view a video fullscreen (without the controls visible). In the menu, there is an option called "Fullscreen", but it doesn't do anything that I can notice.


Posted by: adamm22

^^^ anyone?


Posted by: pinkandgeek

I have a movie playing in fullscreen now, the menu option works fine for me.


Posted by: fonebrkr

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I use super.
Best size is 320X240.
I like 3gp format.
You need to upgrade to the latest OS for full screen to work. GL


Posted by: adamm22

this is mine:

Device Software Version: 4.3.0.65

What's the latest?


Posted by: PhoneRegular

How long does it take you guys to transfer video to the BB? what is the average video size?


Posted by: fonebrkr

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4.3.097 is the latest os for the pearl. In mass storage mode it takes 15 to 20 minutes to transfer, using a card reader it takes about 5 minutes.
I don't have any full movies on right now, but a full episode of the Sopranos is 106.4 Meg.
If you try with the roxio media manager, it will take an hour and probably crash your pc a couple times.


Posted by: PhoneRegular

o wow! 15min for 106MB? tats really long.
are you sure?


Posted by: fonebrkr

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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoneRegular
o wow! 15min for 106MB? tats really long.
are you sure?


No 15 minutes for a full movie with sound through a usb port to a mini usb port on the phone. I gave the 106 as an example since that's the biggest video I have on my phone right now..a movie is in the 200 Meg range.


Posted by: brewkelyn

Just today I transferred the Transformers movie using Media Manager, a 2.13 gb mp4 file, in about 25 min. I'm estimating because I didn't check the time when I started to do this. But definitely no more than 30 minutes. It compressed the movie to a size of 867 MB. Man, I'm glad I got a 4GB card!

Plenty of room for a 2 or more large movie files + my music and pics. Anyway, I recommend the supplied software.


Posted by: adamm22

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoneRegular
How long does it take you guys to transfer video to the BB? what is the average video size?
depends what size the video you are transferring. Is it a small clip or an entire movie.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fonebrkr
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4.3.097 is the latest os for the pearl. In mass storage mode it takes 15 to 20 minutes to transfer, using a card reader it takes about 5 minutes.
I don't have any full movies on right now, but a full episode of the Sopranos is 106.4 Meg.
If you try with the roxio media manager, it will take an hour and probably crash your pc a couple times.

My mistake... from Telus, the latest is 4.3.0.126, which is what I'm using (the latest "Applications" version is 4.3.0.65...
https://www.blackberry.com/Download...8E607FE7CC0E1A0
Quote:
Software For BlackBerry 8130 Wireless Handheld (TM)
BlackBerry Handheld Software v4.3.0.126 (Multilanguage)
Package Version: 4.3.0.126
Consisting of:
* Applications: 4.3.0.65
* Software Platform: 3.1.0.34
* File name: 8130EFS_PBr4.3.0_rel126_PL3.1.0.34_A4.3.0.65_Telus .exe
* File size: 102.0 MB


Quote:
Originally Posted by brewkelyn
Just today I transferred the Transformers movie using Media Manager, a 2.13 gb mp4 file, in about 25 min. I'm estimating because I didn't check the time when I started to do this. But definitely no more than 30 minutes. It compressed the movie to a size of 867 MB. Man, I'm glad I got a 4GB card!

Plenty of room for a 2 or more large movie files + my music and pics. Anyway, I recommend the supplied software.
wow, you actually got media manager to work?? ... and it's quick?? I don't believe that!!!

Can the rest of you tell me what format you use? mp4? 3gp? what size? I know fonebrkr already posted it, but no one else did.


Posted by: brewkelyn

Quote:
Originally Posted by adamm22
wow, you actually got media manager to work?? ... and it's quick?? I don't believe that!!!

I was pleasantly surprised too.
I converted another movie last night and timed it, took exactly a half-hour. This file was much smaller than the first, at 900 MB, but I was transferring it directly from a disc I had it burned on. So I imagine that slowed the process a little.
I pretty much sold my sister on the Curve once she saw these movies playing fullscreen on mine...it looked and sounded great!


Posted by: adamm22

Quote:
Originally Posted by brewkelyn
I was pleasantly surprised too.
I converted another movie last night and timed it, took exactly a half-hour. This file was much smaller than the first, at 900 MB, but I was transferring it directly from a disc I had it burned on. So I imagine that slowed the process a little.
I pretty much sold my sister on the Curve once she saw these movies playing fullscreen on mine...it looked and sounded great!

900mb seems a little big for a full movie, especially since the dimensions are so small. Do you know what format media manager converts it to? Do you have a curve or pearl? Either way, were you able to watch the videos fullscreen WITHOUT the controls visible?


Posted by: PhoneRegular

Where did you guys bought your 8130?
Did anyone buy it from a non-carrier, like ebay, amazon or pacific mall? :P


Posted by: brewkelyn

Quote:
Originally Posted by adamm22
900mb seems a little big for a full movie, especially since the dimensions are so small. Do you know what format media manager converts it to? Do you have a curve or pearl? Either way, were you able to watch the videos fullscreen WITHOUT the controls visible?

900 MB was the original file size, Media Manager compressed it to 654 MB. Looking at the file's properties on my phone it still says it's an mp4 so I guess it didn't change the format, just compressed it. I have an 8320 and yes, I can watch them fullscreen, without the controls.

I now have Transformers, Bourne Ultimatum, The Village, and both dvd's of the comedian Brian Regan on my card. It's funny, I actually can't wait until I'm stuck at an airport or something, haha. (I say that now)
What I'm curious about is the effects of video playback on battery power. Transformers is a 2Hr+ long movie, what would the charge be like afterwards? I'll do a search...

EDIT: Just as a note, looking at your original post...
I didn't convert these directly from DVDs. These are movies I had ripped before using MactheRipper and then converted to an mp4 using HandBrake. You can choose how big you want the final mp4 file to be, that's why Transformers was 2.13 Gigs, I wanted it high quality.


Posted by: adamm22

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoneRegular
Where did you guys bought your 8130?
Did anyone buy it from a non-carrier, like ebay, amazon or pacific mall? :P
No i got mine free from my carrier, Telus Mobility. They were giving them away for free with 3yr contracts during christmas.

Quote:
Originally Posted by brewkelyn
900 MB was the original file size, Media Manager compressed it to 654 MB. Looking at the file's properties on my phone it still says it's an mp4 so I guess it didn't change the format, just compressed it. I have an 8320 and yes, I can watch them fullscreen, without the controls.

I now have Transformers, Bourne Ultimatum, The Village, and both dvd's of the comedian Brian Regan on my card. It's funny, I actually can't wait until I'm stuck at an airport or something, haha. (I say that now)
What I'm curious about is the effects of video playback on battery power. Transformers is a 2Hr+ long movie, what would the charge be like afterwards? I'll do a search...

EDIT: Just as a note, looking at your original post...
I didn't convert these directly from DVDs. These are movies I had ripped before using MactheRipper and then converted to an mp4 using HandBrake. You can choose how big you want the final mp4 file to be, that's why Transformers was 2.13 Gigs, I wanted it high quality.
Yeah but there is only so much quality you can fit in a small BB screen. No point in making a 2gb file for a BB. In regards to your video player playing fullscreen, what carrier are you with? I'm with Telus Mobility in Canada. I'm thinking maybe your software for the BB is slightly different.... in that it works!

EDIT: Ok I was just fooling around with it and if I set the option to Fullscreen and stop the movie and close the movie player, the next time I play the movie it starts in fullscreen mode, but once I want to pause or fast forward the movie, the controls show and I can't get them off again. Does this happen to you? Also, in your fullscreen, is it actually fullscreen or is there a 3-4mm black border around the video?

By the way, I guess the only true way to find out how much a 2hr long movie drains the battery is to actually try it out. Play it and see what the battery is like after it's finished... then post your findings here.


Posted by: brewkelyn

Quote:
Originally Posted by adamm22
Yeah but there is only so much quality you can fit in a small BB screen. No point in making a 2gb file for a BB.

Correct, but my Curve is only a week old...the movies I have were not ripped to play on it but to play on my 20" widescreen monitor @ 1680x1050 px. But for future movies I'll probably make a much smaller version and make a comparison.
Quote:
Originally Posted by adamm22
In regards to your video player playing fullscreen, what carrier are you with?

I'm with T-Mobile.
Quote:
Originally Posted by adamm22[I
EDIT: Ok I was just fooling around with it and if I set the option to Fullscreen and stop the movie and close the movie player, the next time I play the movie it starts in fullscreen mode, but once I want to pause or fast forward the movie, the controls show and I can't get them off again. Does this happen to you? Also, in your fullscreen, is it actually fullscreen or is there a 3-4mm black border around the video?[/I]

Mine worked the first time. I realized too that once fullscreen is selected, all videos will play in that mode until you deselect it again. When first opening a movie, pausing, fast-forwarding, etc. the controls show for a bit then go away. There is a black border around my videos too but I prefer the letterbox view (wide angle).

However, there is an option that I think I saw in Media Manager. I don't have it on my work computer but when you are prompted to convert a file, select advanced options, or something like that. A new window pops up with extra options, one of them allowing you to crop the picture area in order to fill your whole screen. Personally, I prefer the widescreen even if it means a smaller picture (so I haven't tried it)
Quote:
Originally Posted by adamm22
By the way, I guess the only true way to find out how much a 2hr long movie drains the battery is to actually try it out. Play it and see what the battery is like after it's finished... then post your findings here.

Will do but don't hold your breadth , so much more to do in customizing my Curve.


Posted by: adamm22

the support at Telus couldn't help me AT ALL (what a surprise -- they've been so useful in the past ). They actually said "try taking out the battery and putting it back in to reset the bb". They also told me to call RIM directly.

I ahven't been able to effectively try Media Manager becuase it continuously lags/freezes on me.


Posted by: CondomBoy

Quote:
Originally Posted by fonebrkr
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I use super.
Best size is 320X240.
I like 3gp format.
You need to upgrade to the latest OS for full screen to work. GL



I used Super last night for the first time... compressed all the files seemed to work, loaded them onto my BB this morning and they don't show up when I go into Media -> Videos -> All Videos... even My Videos they don't show... yet I go to the card through My Computer and they show there... but I cannot find them to play them...??


Posted by: CondomBoy

Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoneRegular
How long does it take you guys to transfer video to the BB? what is the average video size?



I went and transferred through Roxio and it works, half hour TV show from AVI transferred is about 30 to 50 megs... quite small... but the transfer takes about an HOUR...

Super works great, larger files but I can't get it to show on my BB after I transfer it...


Posted by: adamm22

Quote:
Originally Posted by CondomBoy
I went and transferred through Roxio and it works, half hour TV show from AVI transferred is about 30 to 50 megs... quite small... but the transfer takes about an HOUR...

Super works great, larger files but I can't get it to show on my BB after I transfer it...

1hr to convert a half-hour tv show at an extremely low res = too slow.


Posted by: fonebrkr

Quote:
Originally Posted by CondomBoy
I used Super last night for the first time... compressed all the files seemed to work, loaded them onto my BB this morning and they don't show up when I go into Media -> Videos -> All Videos... even My Videos they don't show... yet I go to the card through My Computer and they show there... but I cannot find them to play them...??

all the super settings I use:

Output container> 3gp(sony Ericsson)
Output video codec> Mpeg4
Output audio> AAC
video scale> 320x240
aspect> 4:3
Frame sec> 15
bitrate> 192
option> high quality
Sampling> 22050
Channels> 2
bitrate> 128
audiostream> default

these ought to get super hooked up for ya.
GL


Posted by: adamm22

Quote:
Originally Posted by fonebrkr
all the super settings I use:

Output container> 3gp(sony Ericsson)
Output video codec> Mpeg4
Output audio> AAC
video scale> 320x240
aspect> 4:3
Frame sec> 15
bitrate> 192
option> high quality
Sampling> 22050
Channels> 2
bitrate> 128
audiostream> default

these ought to get super hooked up for ya.
GL

thank you fonebrkr... that's exactly what I wanted to know from the beginning!


Posted by: fonebrkr

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Quote:
Originally Posted by adamm22
Quote:
Originally Posted by fonebrkr
all the super settings I use:

Output container> 3gp(sony Ericsson)
Output video codec> Mpeg4
Output audio> AAC
video scale> 320x240
aspect> 4:3
Frame sec> 15
bitrate> 192
option> high quality
Sampling> 22050
Channels> 2
bitrate> 128
audiostream> default

these ought to get super hooked up for ya.
GL

thank you fonebrkr... that's exactly what I wanted to know from the beginning!


Well, why didn't you just ask? . JK

Did you get er done yet?


Posted by: adamm22

Quote:
Originally Posted by fonebrkr
Well, why didn't you just ask? . JK

you--> <--me

Quote:
Originally Posted by fonebrkr
Did you get er done yet?

not yet. been busy.




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