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New Bell push-email service
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Posted by: MaxQc

have you guys saw this new service ?
How do you think it works ? Is it a branded "seven" ?

Link

Posted by: MacD

It works the same way as push email on the blackberry's. You get an email, and it gets pushed to your device, instead of you setting your device to check every X amount of minutes, and wasting data.

Not really worthwhile for the Touch, since you have to pay additional for it. But for the Q, Treo, and 5800/6800, it's great, because it doesn't cost any extra for them.

If you have 4MB for $25 for example, we would simply switch that feature with another $25 for 4 MB feature, that includes the push email in it.

Same for every other data features (8MB, 1GB etc.)

Posted by: Copacetic

To use this on the Touch it's $8/mo

Posted by: kocoman

How does it work (technically I mean)

Posted by: e815guy

actually just go to http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php and join the beta, save yourself 8 bucks a month!

Posted by: VE9LRN

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Originally Posted by MacD

It works the same way as push email on the blackberry's. You get an email, and it gets pushed to your device, instead of you setting your device to check every X amount of minutes, and wasting data.

Not really worthwhile for the Touch, since you have to pay additional for it.

For those who don't have money to burn, try this. Create a free Gmail account and forward all your email traffic to it. Go to Gmail's Settings, activate Keep and Forward to your phone number, eg, xxxxxxxxxx@txt.aliant.net (or whatever suffix Bell uses elsewhere in Canada) and you will receive instant notifications as free sms. You get to read the first 140 characters or so for each message. If you need the rest use PIE to access your Gmail account. I use Gmail as my home page so the process is pretty quick and the price is right;-)

Posted by: MaxQc

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Originally Posted by e815guy

actually just go to http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php and join the beta, save yourself 8 bucks a month!

Yes, I think they use this kind of client... I think Sprint has a service like that and it uses Seven...

I used it myself but found it was heavy on the battery ..

Posted by: peoples_flip

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Originally Posted by MaxQc

Yes, I think they use this kind of client... I think Sprint has a service like that and it uses Seven...

I used it myself but found it was heavy on the battery ..

That's true due to the fact that this program, if you really want it to maintain a true "Push" service, has to constantly be running in the background which ultimately drains the device's battery.

Posted by: GeorgeC

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Originally Posted by Sammy740

To use this on the Touch it's $8/mo

But why? Hotmail (and Sympatico Email) already offer push email for free. I have been using it on my Touch since when I got this device last November.

Cheers,

Posted by: MacD

The Touch checks your mail manually. If its the same as my 6800 which I imagine it is. It isn't "pushed" per se.

I personally don't see the point in getting it for the touch, since your data is unlimited, and you can have it check as often as every 2 minutes I believe. I doubt receiving emails almost instantly instead of every 2 minutes is worth $8 to most people.

Posted by: theace.

I changed my settings so my mail is received on my touch asap. should I be worried? its my hotmail account by the way

Posted by: MacD

Worried about what? You have unlimited data, so as long as you didn't subscribe to the $8 push feature, there's nothing to worry about.

And you'd know if you subscribed to it because you'd receive a txt msg with instructions.

Posted by: cavery

If I hadn't switched from gmail to a live.com email address when I got my Touch, I'd be excited about this. Hotmail/live.com already do push to Windows Mobile devices. For gmail users though, this is great.

Posted by: GeorgeC

[QUOTE=MacD]The Touch checks your mail manually. If its the same as my 6800 which I imagine it is. It isn't "pushed" per se.
QUOTE]

Er... actually it is. Hotmail (which is now also used by Bell Symaptico email) and MS Exchange offer actual e-mail push (well, Exchange also also push changes made to Calendar, Tasks and Contacts).

GMail does not support push, so you have to configure your device to connect to their email server ever so often to check if any new e-mail arrived.

Cheers,

Posted by: MacD

Well I only have a Gmail account when it comes to my personal emails.

What you said further validates what I said about it not being worthwhile for the Touch

Posted by: GeorgeC

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacD

Well I only have a Gmail account when it comes to my personal emails.

What you said further validates what I said about it not being worthwhile for the Touch

If someone really wants push e-mail, then they can setup a free Live.com (Hotmail) account and forward e-mail from other account (e.g. Google) to there.

And you are right that there is absolutely no reason for Touch users to subscribe to this new $8/pushmail feature.

Cheers,

Posted by: m4gician

When you say Treo, you mean windows based treos right? Because the seven branded site only mentions the 700 and 750.

I have my 650 and if the push e-mail feature will work on this phone, it'd be great.

Posted by: MacD

Currently, its only the 700wx. They are working on bringing it to palm OS treos now.

Posted by: can6rxw

I hope they're not introducing this with the plans of phasing out the $7 unlimited plan for us Touch users. (maybe I'm panicking for nothing

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Posted by: MacD

Yes, you are.

Posted by: bigphoneguy

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 6.12) HTC-SMT5800)

Too bad I use this service and the software is only for pocket pcs with windows 5. Plus, if you try to get download links sent to you through sms, it tells you to select a service provider. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Bell didn't notice this page considering the only options to select for your wireless network are american ones.

Posted by: XeusTsu

Just a couple comments. This software I believe is essentially RIM is releasing the blackberry email software onto WM based devices. So it is really a push email system that can be used on more than just blackberries. This does not drain much battery life, as all it requires is for your phone to connect to the network and request an IP address. Subsequent network related messaging for staying on the network (every1.5 Hours) it wakes up for a second. If there is an email destined for the client, it gets paged by the network, and the mobile will subsequently wake up and receive the message. This is the same way you receive a call.

You could potentially see a drain in battery if normally you only connect under 1x network, as the EVDO chipset can drain power. To avoid this, you can put you mobile into a 1xRTT only mode.

Posted by: audicy

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Originally Posted by GeorgeC

[QUOTE=MacD]The Touch checks your mail manually. If its the same as my 6800 which I imagine it is. It isn't "pushed" per se.
QUOTE]

Er... actually it is. Hotmail (which is now also used by Bell Symaptico email) and MS Exchange offer actual e-mail push (well, Exchange also also push changes made to Calendar, Tasks and Contacts).

GMail does not support push, so you have to configure your device to connect to their email server ever so often to check if any new e-mail arrived.

Cheers,

LOL, you beat me to it, I was just about to say that

Posted by: audicy

I use Cortado, it is an excellent free MS Exchange service. for a year now.

Posted by: OZLancer

Sorry for trolling, but can't the touch also take advantage of IMAP Idle? This is when the client, that would normally "pull" the email, maintains a constant connection (renewed every 15-30 min) with the mail server, and recieves the mail instantly (in some cases faster than a push message can make it to a device).. I did not know about this when I owned the Touch, and therefore used mail2webLive's free exchange service, with my Gmail forwarded to it, since all I've ever got is spam sent to Hotmail

The problem with the free exchange is that I had to send directly from the gmail account, but recieve via the exchange, so I could never directly respond. Now that Gmail actually supports IMAP, I can actually reply to messages without switching accounts which saves a lot of time!