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BlackBerry to Iphone???
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Posted by: larryj357

Has anyone switched from a newer BlackBerry device such as the 88xx,81xx,83xx to the Iphone?

What do you like better about the Iphone better than the BlackBerry besides the audio portion of the phone. I am really considering thinking about switching from Tmobile to AT&T. I really think the 3G will be assume and Visual Voice Mail looks really cool. I get a lot of calls due to my business and the VVM will be a nice little tool.

The thing that really is keeping me from doing it is the push email. If there was a way to get Idle IMAP with the Iphone where I could get almost instant emails I would be happy. Having to manually check for email or wait for 15 minutes isn't going to cut it for a $500 phone.

I travel internationally aswell. I have heard that AT&T and the Iphone works well in other markets.

I would like to hear back from anyone that has made the switch and what you think about it.

Posted by: aneftp

If you absolutely need instant email access than the iPhone will not cut it. iPhone is first and formost a consumer device, not for business purchases. You will have to wait until firmware 2.0 to see how enterprise server works.

I suggest you stick with your blackberry for now. I carry both the curve and iPhone with me. iPhone supports yahoo push emails. I get my emails almost instantly while in EDGE but there us sometimes a 5-15 minute delay when on wifi. I do not set the phone to autocheck with my yahoo email.

People are asking too much of the iPhone. It a great little device. It will satisfy 80-90 percent of the public out there. What other phone out there can match those statistics?

Posted by: jjj23

I switched from a Curve 8320 to the iPhone. The obvious thing I miss is the push email. Also not being able to get calls or no missed-call notification when using Edge is another downside. I've missed a lot of calls when I am using Edge and callers assume that I declined their calls. This probably won't be an issue with the 3G phone, at least where 3G is available. But the web browsing experience makes up for it, so I am happy.

Posted by: aneftp

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Originally Posted by aneftp

If you absolutely need instant email access than the iPhone will not cut it. iPhone is first and formost a consumer device, not for business purchases. You will have to wait until firmware 2.0 to see how enterprise server works.

I suggest you stick with your blackberry for now. I carry both the curve and iPhone with me. iPhone supports yahoo push emails. I get my emails almost instantly while in EDGE but there us sometimes a 5-15 minute delay when on wifi. I do not set the phone to autocheck with my yahoo email.

People are asking too much of the iPhone. It a great little device. It will satisfy 80-90 percent of the public out there. What other phone out there can match those statistics?

Edit:

Forget using the iPhone with your U.S. based SIM card. ATT's international data/voice charges are outrageous even with the international plan. Best buy would be just to unlock the phone (don't bother to bring a U.S. ATT/Tmobile SIM) with you. and pop in a foreign SIM. You may or maynot be able to find free WiFi spots...obviously this depends where you travel to.

If you really want to use email internationally, Tmobile's international Blackberry plans are the best hands down because they will prorate the amount of time you use it internationally. So I went to Rio, Brazil and used my international BB Curve for 14 days and was only charged $10 which is half of the monthly fee for the $20 international BB plan and than I just canceled it.

Posted by: Wide_opeN

I just switched 3-31-08 from Curve to iPhone and the difference is nite and day for what I do.

I easily use more data than voice and the weak broswer on the Curve wasn't cutting it. Also, how can the iPod be beat? As well the overall OS X system simply rocks, lite years ahead of BB.

Was an easy switch for me!

Posted by: mush10

I am hoping for a good Lotus product on V2.

Posted by: robert1_1

I dont' have an iPhone yet and am waiting for the 3G. I too have a curve and love the push email.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But I believe the easiest way to get push email with the iPhone is to set up a yahoo email account in addition to your normal account and forward all your emails from your normal account to your yahoo account. Then if you need to respond. Just have the iPhone poll from your normal account and respond from there. I don't think you really want to turn on auto polling every 15 minutes anyway because it is a big battery drain.

Posted by: ATT*Mark

I have both and I leave the toy(iphone) at home. It just sits.... I cant live without my blackberry.

Posted by: Duke72

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Originally Posted by ATT*Mark

I have both and I leave the toy(iphone) at home. It just sits.... I cant live without my blackberry.

Thats a good point, The iPhone is a toy. Its fun to play with but if you have work to do stick with BB.

Posted by: robert1_1

Just curious, what kind of work are you guys doing on your blackberry? Writing documents? I have a curve and can't imagine doing much other than some light reading, browsing, and email exchange which I would think can be done with an iPHone too.

Posted by: Wide_opeN

I was thinking the same thing robert1_1, my iPhone makes me a lot more productive having access to the REAL internet.

Posted by: larryj357

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Originally Posted by robert1_1

Just curious, what kind of work are you guys doing on your blackberry? Writing documents? I have a curve and can't imagine doing much other than some light reading, browsing, and email exchange which I would think can be done with an iPHone too.

For me it's emails and attachment viewing. Whether it's pics or documents. You can listen to a lot of music on the curve with the micro SD Card. I don't really want to watch movies on my phone.

Other than I think the Iphone can do everything the Curve can except UMA calls. I haven't been using UMA as much since I went unlimited. When I visit my friend out of town. There is weak signal at their house so I use UMA then. I would also use UMA when I travel abroad.

Posted by: starry1

I forget exactly what will be released with the SDK's in June but I think I remember either Sync or Exchange or Enterprise. Not sure if any of these applications will meet your needs but it might be worth it to wait and see what is released before making a decision.

Remember, the SDK's are different than the 2nd gen iPhone and will be able to be used on either generation.

Posted by: aneftp

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Originally Posted by robert1_1

Exactly. Agree with you 100% and also with the other poster who says the iPhone is a Toy.

The iPhone is a multimedia device that happens to be able to make phone calls. In terms of push email, clarity, RF, battery life, speakerphone, the Blackberry (at least my Curve 8320) wins hands down over the iPhone.

However, the iPhone blows away the competition with it's iPod function and the mobile safari browser (the best browser on a mobile device....there is no comparison...sure it lacks some functions like flash but it's not suppose to be a laptop replacement.

Posted by: Tastypeppers

I have an iPhone (unlocked, on T-Mobile) and a Curve, also on T-Mobile. I carry both. I never thought I'd be a dork and carry a phone and a BlackBerry, but I'm a dork. Dorkness is necessary because the iPhone is such a poor email performer. The little swooshy sound effects are nice, but . . . .

I have the iPhone set up for IMAP access to the Exchange Server at work. Apple apparently forgot about "EXPUNGE" functionality in IMAP. Thus if I delete an email from my inbox on the iPhone, you'd think it would be gone from the inbox, right? Nope. It's in the trash and next time you refresh the phone, it's in the inbox again.

You can Google for a solution to this -- there is a hack you can install on the Exchange Server but I've done that and Exchange mail is still unreliable.

That's why I carry the Curve. It's is an email client only. I use the iPhone for phone functionality.

I'm waiting for 2.0, when ActiveSync comes to the iPhone. Presumably that will solve the poor IMAP implementation on the iPhone. I went to the Curve to get away from ActiveSync on a Treo 750 and a Dash. Sigh. Looks like it is coming back to haunt me.

The iPhone is fine for Gmail and Yahoo mail. For corporate work, forget it.

I have used both the iPhone and Curve overseas (Europe, Middle East).

The Curve's keyboard is infinitely better for pounding out messages than the iPhone's.

Posted by: pfreitas

I've bounced from a pearl to an iphone to a curve to an iphone to a pearl to an iphone to a curve to my most recent 8820. I'm sure I'll bounce back to a 3g iphone if the email client is improved but i'm also certain that I will go for the 9000....what does this post mean?....nothing really, just wanted to share my ridiculous history of the iphone lol

Posted by: robert1_1

I think this is a good thread because there are probably a lot of blackberry people considering the new 3G iPhone.

One of my biggest problems with the curve is the small screen and font. I'm starting to get pretty far sighted and don't always want to be carrying around a pair of reading glasses just to use my phone. So the big screen of the iPhone is a major, major plus for me.

It sounds like like you can make non-corporate email work for you to an adequate level. As long as I can send and receive emails, on the 3G iPhone, I'll be happy.

Hopefully Apple will address the phone clarity, RF, and speaker issues. Foremost for me it's a phone and I'm unwilling to comprise on this issue.

Is the iPhone keyboard really harder to use then the blackberry or is this a matter of getting used to? But again, if I have to type a little slower, I'm willing to compramise on this issue. My emailing is pretty light. I need to be able to send messages, but they don't need to be lengthy novels.

Posted by: Duke72

I guess the main issues is the email. Its not about how long you write a text, but how quickly you can get it done. Plus the iPhone isnt able to forward text or even MMS. Dont get me wrong its a great phone, depending on what you want to do. The internet is great, but I dont have time to surf all day.

Posted by: Jack Dangers

I switched over on the day the iPhone was launched (from a BB Pearl) and I haven't regretted it one bit. I think the voice quality is excellent on the iPhone and it really fulfills my business needs. I will say that at first it took a while getting used to the lack of push emails, but after a while I got over it.
I too have the Iphone hooked up to my office exchange server, and while it lacks some functionality compared to a BES server, it still does an adequate job. It does a fairly good job of keeping my inboxes synced up. I can review excel spread sheets, word documents, and pdfs. While I can't edit them, that is really not necessary since I wouldn't edit a document from a mobile device anyway.

Also, the iphone plan I currently have is cheaper than the BB plan I was using with the pearl.

IMO, i say wait until 2.0 comes out and see how well the push email will work. Yes, you need an exchange server to use it, but you can easily get a hosted one for 9.99 p/month.... well worth it.

Posted by: fmcgirt

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Originally Posted by greenteeth

I've bounced from a pearl to an iphone to a curve to an iphone to a pearl to an iphone to a curve to my most recent 8820. I'm sure I'll bounce back to a 3g iphone if the email client is improved but i'm also certain that I will go for the 9000....what does this post mean?....nothing really, just wanted to share my ridiculous history of the iphone lol

With all this "bouncing" how do you handle the switching between BB and iPhone data plans? I would like to be able to just move my SIM card back and forth between a Curve and iPhone which I assume will work OK for voice but not for data. Can you just go to the AT&T web site and and change data plans there without getting a CSR involved?

Thanks for the info,

Frank

Posted by: starry1

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Originally Posted by fmcgirt

Unfortunately you can't make any changes online.

I wonder if you change to another data plan, then at another date change back to the iPhone one if it changes your contract date?

Posted by: Deeva

i went from a Curve 8320 to an 8 gb iPhone...sure, the push email on blackberry can't be beat. i will not despute that. But I got bored with my curve. First of all the browser sucks. HUGE. Second, the multimedia capabilities of the Curve I thought sucked. I really liked the camera but I didn't like the video playback, or the audi playback as well. I found my phone experience lacking. My friends always said the sound quality from their end sucked when I called them...and even with the volume up I found them hard to hear. I have found everythign vastly improved with my iPhone..but I think it comes down to what you want and what your tastes are. Considering I have a 1hr bus ride to and from University each day...an iPhone with it's multimedia capabilites and it's abilities to handle genesis and snes games have been a score in my books.

Posted by: shahkg

I can't wait for the SDK in June so that the iPhone can support Exchange/Sync email. The iPhone is a much better device, and that includes the keyboard. Once you trust the phone to correct your spelling mistakes, you can really type out long email very quickly. The iPhone OS is lightyears ahead of a BBerry. I mean, it is such a chore for me to search for nearby restaurants and get directions on a BB, while the iPhone it is super simple. The only thing BB has for it is push email...but that will soon change. I can't wait to throw the BB in the trash.

Posted by: Kid_Jackie

With the release of the 3G version of the iPhone, I am sure we will see some further advancements happening.

Apple is listening and they know that this is a major concern (push email). Look for announcements from the Jobs camp in the near future =)

To answer your question, going from an 8800 to the iPhone was a snap. It did take a little while to get used to the keyboard. Having no tactile response was confusing to my thumbs for a while. I have now learned to trust the iPhones smart spell technology and I am typing way faster than I ever did on the BlackBerry.

Another plus for the iPhone is the visual real estate. Things just look amazing on the iPhone and you have so much area to appreciate that. It pains me to switch back to the 8800's small viewable screen.

Posted by: kurrupt_1

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Originally Posted by ATT*Mark

I have both and I leave the toy(iphone) at home. It just sits.... I cant live without my blackberry.

DITTO! I agree 100%.

Posted by: nfl46

I have a Curve and an iPhone. I hate the Curve. I'm DEFINITELY not a Blackberry person, lol. The loose Curve keyboard drives me crazy...

Posted by: nfl46

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Originally Posted by Deeva

i went from a Curve 8320 to an 8 gb iPhone...sure, the push email on blackberry can't be beat. i will not despute that. But I got bored with my curve. First of all the browser sucks. HUGE. Second, the multimedia capabilities of the Curve I thought sucked. I really liked the camera but I didn't like the video playback, or the audi playback as well. I found my phone experience lacking. My friends always said the sound quality from their end sucked when I called them...and even with the volume up I found them hard to hear. I have found everythign vastly improved with my iPhone..but I think it comes down to what you want and what your tastes are. Considering I have a 1hr bus ride to and from University each day...an iPhone with it's multimedia capabilites and it's abilities to handle genesis and snes games have been a score in my books.

I totally agree!!! And this is coming from a person who owns a Curve and iPhone!