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Originally Posted by adambigge
Lets see. GSM release this summer. That means us VZW customers should have by.......2011.
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Originally Posted by danny.boi
Boy Genius Report
That didn’t take too long, did it? We finally have it people — it’s alive and confirmed. The BlackBerry Bold is indeed the official name for the BlackBerry 9000 device and it should be available starting "this summer." AT&T is the first carrier to launch, but there is also a 1700MHz model coming which will support T-Mobile’s 3G data network. Here are a couple highlights: 1GB on-board memory with encryption. Tri-band HSDPA. Pricing in the $300-$500 range with a carrier. Launching on AT&T "this summer." Interchangable color back plates. 5 hours of talk time, 13 days of standby time. 624-MHz Marvell Tavor PXA930 processor |
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
Wow, I didnt think the announcement would come over night. I wonder if we will get an announcement from ATT with their release date.
I wonder if "summer" will be defined by Waterloo's standards. It has already felt like summer here in Atlanta, GA. |
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Originally Posted by adambigge
Lets see. GSM release this summer. That means us VZW customers should have by.......2011.
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Originally Posted by GJSNeptune
Well I just used my upgrade to get the Curve, so I have two years (I can't afford retail prices). Maybe it'll even come out in 2010.
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Originally Posted by GJSNeptune
I don't like the Bold's look, but I'll really want its processor and OS 4.7!
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Originally Posted by F34R
i wonder how long until Alltel gets it, if ever ? I've never really followed these types of things so I'm not sure what to expect.
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Originally Posted by adambigge
Lets see. GSM release this summer. That means us VZW customers should have by.......2011.
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Originally Posted by jv123
IT looks alot like the BB 8800 (design wise)
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Originally Posted by hillstrubl
yes, this summer (no hard date yet) confirmed by a T-mo insider friend of mine by way of RIM
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Originally Posted by JustinLeex329
Just ported my number to VZW about 2 months ago, but I'm seriously considering porting back to AT&T to get this phone.
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Originally Posted by shivers316
I hope you're right because, according to everything I've read, AT&T is gonna have at least a 90 day exclusive. Which means probably not on T-Mo until Sept. or Oct. Either way, the saving has begun.
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
Hey Jack, do you need to post the a big honking pix of the 9000 everytime you post?
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Originally Posted by Spazmogen
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Originally Posted by Rogers Wireless
Inspire - as colour and clarity come to life on its brilliant HVGA display (640 X 240 pixels).
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Originally Posted by Jack T. Chance
Hadn't seen the pic posted in this thread yet, but if you like, I can change it to a different pic!
It's my understanding that European carriers use the 1900 mhz and/or 2100 mhz frequency range(s), which is also what at&t apparently uses. T-Mobile, on the other hand, is using 1700 mhz, the only carrier that I'm aware of to use that frequency range. So, while an at&t customer could buy an unlocked, European version and use it (and some have, the European 8707 model has the 3G radios in it, and it's a 2-year old phone, so I'm really surprised one hasn't been released on at&t yet), the same will not be true for T-Mo users such as myself. |
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Originally Posted by Jack T. Chance
It's my understanding that European carriers use the 1900 mhz and/or 2100 mhz frequency range(s), which is also what at&t apparently uses. T-Mobile, on the other hand, is using 1700 mhz, the only carrier that I'm aware of to use that frequency range. So, while an at&t customer could buy an unlocked, European version and use it (and some have, the European 8707 model has the 3G radios in it, and it's a 2-year old phone, so I'm really surprised one hasn't been released on at&t yet), the same will not be true for T-Mo users such as myself.
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Originally Posted by los510
couple of quick questions if somebody can help me out:
that screen isnt touchscreen right? what are the dimensions compared to the glyde? with verizon you have to pay an extra 30 bucks for the data plan. how does it work with att? these might be off topic but if any body can help i appreciate it. thanks |
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Originally Posted by Spazmogen
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
9000 will not be a touch screen.
ATT has a few differnet BB data plans, depending on if you need to connect to a BES server or not. My BES plan is $45/mon, I think the BIS plan is $30/month, but someone here who has one can say better. |
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Originally Posted by los510
and this is apart from the calling plan right? an extra forty five is pretty hefty. whats bis, btw? (also, everything is included in the plan right, unlimited web, email, aim..etc?)
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
You use a BES plan if you are going to connect to a corporate email system that uses a Blackberry Enterprise Server. The BES plans dont come with any messaging packages, but data is unlimited, and yes it IS in addition to voice.
BIS is Blackberry Internet Service. It is a service that is provided by your carrier to allow your BB to get push mail, etc. You set up the service on the web and define the mailboxes you wish to have BIS poll and push to your BB. BIS is meant mostly for consumers with Blackbereies. I think some of the BIS packages on ATT do come with some messaging (SMS and MMS), but again, dont quote me on that, since I have never used the BIS service. |
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Originally Posted by akapearl
In another thread I read that the true test of release is when a phone appears on ebay. So I did a search. A Blackberry Bold is on ebay--not in AT&T box.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Blackberry-Bold...1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Originally Posted by mick662
$935.00!!?? And it ended early. Ridiculous!
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
Seller feedback = 1, even more ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by los510
currently a vzw customer and these questions might be off topic but if somebody can help id appreciate it:
its always said that vzw's reception and cs is far superior than att's. i know vzw's cs is in fact superior, but couldnt i just call blackberry cs for help with the phone? also, is vzw reception that much better than att's? my family has att and have never had a dropped call, although call quality has been an issue. thanks in advance!! |
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Originally Posted by sheik28
I'm not sure about your CS question.
Reception is and always will be location varied. Some locations get better ATT some get better VZW etc... |
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Originally Posted by los510
can we expect a june release, or is that too soon? would att really delay to appease the iphone 3g's release?
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Originally Posted by brokenchode
Is this going to be a world phone?? (CDMA VER)
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Originally Posted by DoubleSh0t
This may be my first Blackberry... I just wish the BB specific plans weren't so expensive. I'll have to run it on MediaNet w/ Opera I guess.
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Originally Posted by KiSsTiNe
i am drooling right now...
does anyone have any info on its debut price? |
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Originally Posted by los510
the qoute right above yours answers your question. att gets the first release, with sprint, t mobile and VERIZON to follow suit four months later, around september.
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Originally Posted by LicorShot
yeah good luck on that one ... since it WON'T work with medianet plans ... hence the BIS/BES plans MADE for blackberry phones
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http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=578352|
Originally Posted by DoubleSh0t
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=578352BlackBerry Browser and BlackBerry Messenger will be disabled, but Opera Mini and most other 3rd party apps will work fine. |
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
I dont understand why you would get a BB without a BB dataplan. Just get an iPhone or some other smartphone. You will be disappointed in using a BB without a BB dataplan, the built in email client will not work. This has been discussed a zillion times on this forum.
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Originally Posted by Prom1
high pricing of Email & Data on a BB Plan? Not all country's have pure unlimited BIS/BES usage like the USA. Saving the HUP for another line, thus paying outright for the phone to be familiar with it? Maybe someone doesn't want to sign onto a 1/2/3yr contract for BB Plan term, possibly someone wouldn't be approved for such a term/plan due to credit reasons? Or maybe its for a trial period. Many times those of us in the know suggest its better to have the full data plan for BB's yet we fail to realize that not everyone everywhere can have the chance - currently - or ability to have the BB data plan; or that rates are not the same the world all over (regardless of currency conversion rates.
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
that is all true, but in those instances, since the BB is designed to be used with a BB dataplan, it is better to look at the many other options.
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
I dont understand why you would get a BB without a BB dataplan. Just get an iPhone or some other smartphone. You will be disappointed in using a BB without a BB dataplan, the built in email client will not work. This has been discussed a zillion times on this forum.
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Originally Posted by jontymisra
BB's are now becoming "status" phones as well. You'll see all kinds of people from every walk of life walking around with a BB, and chances are, most dont have a BB plan on them. Their purpose, is to make a phone call, not BES/BIS service like us
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Originally Posted by LicorShot
i can totally agree with u about that
and i agree its fine if u just want texting on the phone and some organizers its the people that try to use the features that don't pay for them cause they think its cool to scam the companies ... i mean seriously the BB isn't the only phone with a full keyboard..... prolly just the best one |
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Originally Posted by LicorShot
what other options are u talking about there is a BIS and BES plan ... and Intl BB plan |
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Originally Posted by los510
how solid is the september release for verizon? is it just a rumor or is this something i can base a big decision on?
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Originally Posted by Ryan1524
I don't seem to have any problems at all with Signal on my iPhone. Even inside a magnetically shielded chamber I can get 3 bars if the door is open by just 10cm. The new BB does have really strong reception though. I've heard of people even getting reception in the subway lines when in 3G mode.
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Originally Posted by Jonishush
I'd be surprised if the BB Bold was a Worldwide exclusive for AT&T.
Hmm, I'm a Canuck and I've never been with AT&T, but I'd think they would put their BB Bold Release back a few months, if it meant the 3G iPhone release. |
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Originally Posted by Outrigger
When was the last time Verizon released a new model BB a couple of months after its debute on a GSM network? ummmm never.
You're looking at the middle of 2009. |
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Originally Posted by ShadowXOR
Why are you in magnetically shielded chambers?
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Originally Posted by Outrigger
When was the last time Verizon released a new model BB a couple of months after its debute on a GSM network? ummmm never.
You're looking at the middle of 2009. |
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Originally Posted by Ryan1524
I don't want aliens reading my mind.
It's for work. |
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Originally Posted by GJSNeptune
The $29.99 plan is unlimited Email & Web.
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Originally Posted by GJSNeptune
Well the Email & Web plan isn't actually unlimited. It's capped at 5GB, but it's virtually unlimited because that's a hard amount to ever come close to. It's the plan to go with for normal consumers. It's all BIS.
The $44.99 plan is unlimited BIS and BES. You would only go with this plan if you use your device for corporate stuff. It's the enterprise solution. I think corporate stuff uses more data. |
. the bold is probably gonna be my next phone and since itll be my first bb, i wanna get all my facts straight. one more question for any bb users: the bold looks like a pretty big phone (for me atleast since im not used to that size), but does the phone feel comfortable in your pocket and in your hand, or does it just take some gettin used to.
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Originally Posted by los510
i just heard rumors on crackberry that att snabbed a one year exclusivity deal for the blackberry bold. can anyone confirm this? if this is true, it ****in SUCKS!!! i guess ima have to switch to att, or get a one year contract with vzw and wait it out....
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Originally Posted by los510
i just heard rumors on crackberry that att snabbed a one year exclusivity deal for the blackberry bold. can anyone confirm this? if this is true, it ****in SUCKS!!! i guess ima have to switch to att, or get a one year contract with vzw and wait it out....
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Originally Posted by Spazmogen
please quote with the tread link.
I looked for a few minutes and didn't see anything of the sort. It won't happen. This Berry has too many people already talking about it. I doubt RIM would entertain discussions on limiting its sale. It would just be preventing itself from making more profit. |
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Originally Posted by los510
my bad. i actually heard it on one of the crackberry podcasts. the dude said he got the info from a very reliable source. most of the time when they say that tho, it makes it sound like just a rumor. i think itd be a stupid move too, but it is a possibilty.
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Originally Posted by Outrigger
There are already Rogers branded Bold out there and it may very well even come out before ATT, but regardless, ATT won't have a an exclusive, especially not 1 year.
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Originally Posted by Outrigger
There are already Rogers branded Bold out there and it may very well even come out before ATT, but regardless, ATT won't have a an exclusive, especially not 1 year.
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Originally Posted by evenplayn
anyone know when the equivilent will be available through VZW?
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Originally Posted by Spazmogen
please quote with the tread link.
I looked for a few minutes and didn't see anything of the sort. It won't happen. This Berry has too many people already talking about it. I doubt RIM would entertain discussions on limiting its sale. It would just be preventing itself from making more profit. |
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Originally Posted by los510
thanks alot guys
. the bold is probably gonna be my next phone and since itll be my first bb, i wanna get all my facts straight. one more question for any bb users: the bold looks like a pretty big phone (for me atleast since im not used to that size), but does the phone feel comfortable in your pocket and in your hand, or does it just take some gettin used to. |
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Originally Posted by bigsho
I believe AT&T has the US exclusive at launch. But definitely not north America.
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Originally Posted by los510
supposedly, september. but who knows for sure...
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Originally Posted by los510
you're saying its exclusive in the U.S., but not north america??? im not too good with geography, but isnt that the exact same thing? unless your talking about canada.
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Originally Posted by los510
you're saying its exclusive in the U.S., but not north america??? im not too good with geography, but isnt that the exact same thing? unless your talking about canada.
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Originally Posted by jontymisra
You've got to be kidding me.
USA does not equate to North America. |
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Originally Posted by los510
you're saying its exclusive in the U.S., but not north america??? im not too good with geography, but isnt that the exact same thing? unless your talking about canada.
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Originally Posted by bigsho
im sure you're not reading my actuall post...just skimming it and making assumptions.
I said AT&T has the rights to an exclusive launch in the US. That means AT&T WILL BE THE FIRST IN THE US TO LAUNCH THE PHONE. MEANING THAT T-MOBILE WONT GET IT FIRST AT LAUNCH DAY LIKE AT&T...BUT LATER. And same goes for ROGERS in canada. They will be releasing the bold exclusively in canada first. Bell, fido, etc...will not have it on launch day. |
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Originally Posted by los510
you're saying its exclusive in the U.S., but not north america??? im not too good with geography, but isnt that the exact same thing? unless your talking about canada.
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Originally Posted by bryanharig
Yes, mexico and Canada are real countries!
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Originally Posted by jontymisra
You've got to be kidding me.
USA does not equate to North America. |
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Originally Posted by mick662
The smartass in me wants to say something, but all I can do is laugh like a hyena everytime I read this.
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Originally Posted by jontymisra
You shouldn't hold yourself back.
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Originally Posted by los510
you're saying its exclusive in the U.S., but not north america??? im not too good with geography, but isnt that the exact same thing? unless your talking about canada.
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Originally Posted by mick662
Yeah, but then I get those darn PMs from the Mods telling me to be nicer to the poor "special" members.
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North America, the planet's 3rd largest continent, includes (23) countries and dozens of small island possesions and territories - mostly in the Caribbean. It contains all Caribbean and Central America countries, Canada, Mexico and the United States of America - three of the largest countries on the planet, as well as Greenland - the world's largest island. Continent Size: 24,474,000 sq km 9,449,460 sq miles Percent of Earth's Land: 16.5% Population: 501,500,000 Highest Point: Mt McKinley in Alaska, 20,322ft (6,194m) Lowest Point: Death Valley in California, -282 ft (-86m) below sea level. |
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Originally Posted by los510
the usual has been what, a year later. but, it been rumored that vzw and sprint will have it by sep. of 2008. can anyone confirm this?
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Originally Posted by briareus
I don't understand how anyone on these forum sites expects to get "confirmation" through the rumor mill but this happens with every single device going through development and preproduction. You can corroborate rumors but they're still just rumors. Your confirmation is a carrier announcement which doesn't exist at this point.
Of course, I guess it doesn't matter. People will still get their panties in a wad when a device (or OS -- 4.3/4.5, anyone?) isn't released on a rumored date. Anyone who has followed device releases for even a short time should be aware that the speculative release dates are quite meaningless. |
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Originally Posted by carrolldf
http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/na.htm
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Originally Posted by mick662
Hahahahaha!!! What....Greenland?
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Originally Posted by carrolldf
Yeah, Miss Know-it-all had forgotten that fact since she last took Geography a few years (or so) ago in high school.
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Originally Posted by Treatz
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9000/4.6.0.48 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/-1)
Never before have I so anxiously awaited a berry release. |
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Originally Posted by los510
you're saying its exclusive in the U.S., but not north america??? im not too good with geography, but isnt that the exact same thing? unless your talking about canada.
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Originally Posted by Spazmogen
How are the early stages of the review Treatz? Your 1st impression when you picked it up?
If you have it in the store, then the actual release date MUST be very soon. 2 or 3 weeks probably. |
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
Lots of figgity folks here, but if you REALLY want figgity, go over to the S60 forum and read thru the E71 thread. I think RIM does a decent job of announcing leaked models and delivering them in a reasonable timeframe (at lease before they are totally obsolete). I cant say the same for Nokia. While there have been plenty of sightings and pictures and even reviews of the E71, there has still not been an official announcement that the device even exists and its anyone's guess as to when it will be available for delivery.
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Originally Posted by ShadowXOR
Any word on whether or not the Curve will have a successor? Since they added a camera to this one I wonder... Is this it?
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Originally Posted by freddylingling
Well bad news for me, im not longer working for Rogers and my contact didnt come by with his BOLD for me. So now Im SOL
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Originally Posted by freddylingling
Oh well, how is the Bold going for you?
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Originally Posted by Treatz
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9000/4.6.0.48 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/-1)
Its basically hand sex. |
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Originally Posted by didefresh2006
I wonder how many 8820's, 8300's & 8310's will be on sale on ebay after the release of the bold? I so want one.
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Originally Posted by davistld01
...but after reading that the Nokia reps at the S60 get together basically told those that asked about the E71 that the phone didn't exist and it was all a hoax...I am not fooling with Nokia again.
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Originally Posted by Treatz
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9000/4.6.0.48 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/-1)
Its basically hand sex. |
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Originally Posted by Treatz
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9000/4.6.0.48 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/-1)
Its basically hand sex. |
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Originally Posted by davistld01
I am inclined to believe that the 83xx Curve has run its course...since every provider has it's particular version(s). The 9000 Bold...the GSM version, plus CDMA and other versions sure to follow...is the natural successor to the Curve.
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Originally Posted by backdown00
I don't think the bold is quite the successor to the curve. Just as the curve was not the upgrade to the pearl. All of these phones feed different markets. The bold is more corporate than consumer, the curve was more consumer than corporate. I am pretty sure we will see a 93XX somewhere down the road.
Everyone is just attributing the bold to be the curves upgrade because the curve was the latest blackberry before the bold, so one would naturally think, curve was the last model, bold is the new model, therefore bold upgrade to curve, when that does not have to be the case. |
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Originally Posted by jontymisra
Bold is definitely not "corporate" only. It's got all of Curve's features with 88xx's styling. It'll appeal both the markets.
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
While I think some of the corp market will grab up the Bold, there will be plenty, that can not have cameras at work, who will shun the Bold until a cameraless version is released.
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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano
I choose the feature set of the 8820 (wifi and GPS) over having a camera and EITHER wifi OR GPS. But the Bold will be the first BB to offer all three features. Add to that the beautiful screen that jontymisra has reported, plus 3G data and its a no brainer of an upgrade. While I dont need to get my mail any faster over 3G, 3G will be nice for tethering and will allow me to drop my stand along SPCS EVDO datacard account.
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Originally Posted by jontymisra
The screen, and they keyboard will be enough to convince people to move. Add Wifi/3G/GPS/Cam. I think they got it right.
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Originally Posted by Treatz
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9000/4.6.0.48 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/-1)
Never before have I so anxiously awaited a berry release. |
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Originally Posted by Prom1
Well Treatz, it seems you have a Rogers production unit! prototype units, even from Crackberry's first video release & photos, had firmware 4.6.0.22, you have .48
. OK so when you gonna hook us up!? I'm not gonna bail this time unless the Nokia E71 is better.Can you PLEASE list the service packs that came with your Bold please? I'm looking for one specific that is rumored to only be compatible with the Bold; rumored but I doubt it. I have a special set of requests for your Rogers Bold Review - hey I patent that title .* Video of: Menu navigation, switching applications, WiFi browsing (specifically NEW Browsing features: MiniMap & desktop view are NOT new as I've already seen these on Rogers 8100 Pearl 3rd Firmware release; despite what ads state of the bold's new browser), Music playback in background using Stereo Speakers. * Video showing the NEW GoogleMaps 2.2 - its compatible. * Your famous video - redone on the Bold - for BBMaps driving test (you did it with the Pearl). But can you use the mapping Turn by Turn and initiate a phone call DURING that Mapping please?! (either Voice Activated call, or, jumpnig to the phone book then switch app back to the BBMaps or GMaps). * Surfing & Call Quality simultaneously in "The Cantina!" I believe THIS is the features that hardcore BB users will NEED to know and are looking for! Not only this but it will ALSO secure the stability (Q's) that users are wondering of and its ability to speed through functions and at ease with quality. Lock in those sales as well!!!! Cheers. |
...Treatz, be sure to send Prom1 an appropriate invoice for your services, since he demands such personalized treatment.
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Originally Posted by ntrsfrml
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Originally Posted by jontymisra
I couldnt test it long enough to comment on the battery life.
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Originally Posted by davistld01
From what I have read, that was the biggest holdback with the Bold...getting the famous BlackBerry battey life even with the 3G chip set. I imagine that RIM wouldn't have the phone ready to release if they hadn't gotten a handle on that issue.
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Originally Posted by davistld01
From what I have read, that was the biggest holdback with the Bold...getting the famous BlackBerry battey life even with the 3G chip set. I imagine that RIM wouldn't have the phone ready to release if they hadn't gotten a handle on that issue.
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Originally Posted by ShadowXOR
Um...Verizon's 8330 uses 3G EV-DO...which is already out.
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Originally Posted by ShadowXOR
Um...Verizon's 8330 uses 3G EV-DO...which is already out.
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Originally Posted by davistld01
Ummm...Your point?
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Originally Posted by jontymisra
Bold has a faster processor, brighter bigger screen and more functions, it'd definitely consume more power.
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Originally Posted by ShadowXOR
You said they were trying to figure out how to handle the battery with a 3G phone...which they've already done. |