So upgrading and need advice Moto Z9 Vs. Razr v9

Originally Posted by davistld01

I have had the V9 before (both AT&T branded and unlocked/unbranded), and have one again now. It's a great phone if you like flip/clamshell phones. The RF is amazing, sound quality is clear and natural, and it's the best-built flip phone I have ever used. It is my first choice when I want something a little more casual than my daily-driver BlackBerry.

I had a Z9 for roughly five hours. It's very well built, and is an excellent phone...but I found the RF to be spotty (compared to the stellar V9), call quality was "ok", the latest version of the Synergy OS was cool, and it has a bigger screen than the V9... and I was left totally underwhelmed. I will admit that I am not a fan of "slider" phones, and that was the main reason I took it back for a refund...but I just didn't "feel" the phone at all. It was also quite heavy, which I usually like...but it felt almost overly so for some reason, to me.

Both are good mobile phones...but for the same money, IMHO the V9 is the clear winner!!

Originally Posted by dimsum05

The V8/9's all look great, but the battery life is my main concern. The screen on the device could have been bigger as well...

Originally Posted by blackengaard

Cons of the V9:
-Horrible battery life (I have to charge mine every night, but I get used to it)
-Kinda faulty sometimes, restarts and freezes, but hey what Motorola phone didn't do that

Originally Posted by davistld01

*Battery life of the V9 is not horrible on the V9. If you are in a 3G-friendly area, and use a large amount of data...then expect to charge regularly, but if your usage is mainly as a phone and not a data processor...expect over two days of charge. That is pretty good for a such a slim form phone (& slim battery by default) that has 3G capability. Actually it's better than some other 3G phones out there.

*I have had three V9's in my history...and I have never, ever had a single incident where the phone froze or restarted...not once. As a matter of fact, it has been one of the most bug-free phones I've ever had.

YMMV of course, but...

Originally Posted by blackengaard

Mine is terrible. After about 2 days of having it, I have to charge it every night and sometimes it'll even go dead when I'm out and about around 8 PM.
I also force my phone onto GSM, not 3G sot that's even a bigger concern.

My phone often restarts itself when I try and text and have music playing at the same time.
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Might just be me, but I'm not sure.

Originally Posted by davistld01

You have a faulty phone and/or a bad battery. Exchange it.

Originally Posted by davistld01

You have a faulty phone and/or a bad battery. Exchange it.

Originally Posted by blackengaard

I forgot to add something.
I text about ~16000 a month, which boils down to a rough estimate of 530 texts a day...


That would probably have an effect on the battery.

I'm not sure though.

Originally Posted by dimsum05

Actually, even with the V8, many of my customers have been having trouble keeping the device charged. 3G would just kill the device faster...

Originally Posted by Techno Pride

wouldn't having a day job and talking to clients drain the V9's battery faster? I don;t understand the low blow regarding the day job

Originally Posted by davistld01

Not a low blow...not referring to you. Don't be so easily offended...sheesh!!

I was making a comment regarding the 500+ texts the poster made daily. I find it hard to believe that that number could be accomplished while working for an employer on a daily basis.

Originally Posted by Q Ball

Z9 has the bigger BX50 battery to begin with and maybe room for something slightly bigger (that's what I'm looking in to).

Originally Posted by Techno Pride

I'm not offended, sir. I just have no idea what you were trying to prove, or has proven for that matter.

Originally Posted by blackengaard

But there's still the part where it randomly reboots.
It actually did it this morning; I was trying to play a ringtone to hear how it would sound, but it just restarted when clicked on it.

Originally Posted by davistld01

Are you still in your 30-day grace period for an exchange?

If so (guess I'll risk repeating ad nauseum)...take it back. That is not normal.

I have had several of the phones...and have never had a reboot.

Originally Posted by blackengaard

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My 30 day period ended yesterday.
But it's refurb that I got from Warranty Exchange.
Does that make a difference?

And it's interesting that you haven't had a reboot before because all my Motorola phones did this, even my numerous V3xx's.

Do you have a memory card in your phone?

Originally Posted by davistld01

Contact AT&T warranty division...whether it's a refurb or not, it's still under warranty.

I have had numerous Motos, just the V-series are...V505, V551, V600, V635,V3, V3i, V3xx, V9/ATT, V9/unbranded-HK variant, and V8/unbranded-HK & Euro variants...and not a single reboot or freezing issue...not one. As a matter of fact, I tend to keep a Moto around as a backup simply because of how reliable they have been for me...

Maybe I have had the world's largest number of flukes.

And, yes...I use a 2gb SanDisk MicroSD card.

Originally Posted by clown2theleft

I have a Z9, and chose this over the V9.

Size: Z9 closed is bigger than V9 closed, though smaller open. Slightly larger screen (however, only one). I consider the larger size a plus, but then again, I'm not the benchmark by which to measure (I realize this). Additionally, the V9 felt like most other razrs: thin to the point of fragility. The Z9 ain't much better, but it's got a bit more solid feel.

The button size, for me, is not an issue--with the exception of when I installed the "clip-on" case. Then, accessing the number 1 got a little tight, but still manageable.

GPS on the Z9 is a nice feature, though I wish it had the functionality of being able to import addresses from contact list (if it CAN do this, I haven't figured out how to make it so).

Main drawback to the Z9 I see thus far is that MPT doesn't really recognize it yet --aside from other standard Motorola irks.


Best,

--The Clown to the Left

Originally Posted by blackengaard

Ah! We finally got back on topic.
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Sorry we like threadjacked this.
Anyways.
I think there's a software called SyncCell where you can Sync your contacts and your calendar.

I just used the trial version and it works okay.
Granted, it leaves a note on every contact saying "Created by SyncCell...blahblahblah..." But hey. It saved me like an hour of my time.

Originally Posted by clown2theleft

Good to know about SyncCell. Thanks! --but I was speaking of the TeleNav being able to import postal addresses from a contact. I think it'd be nice to highlight someone's contact, scroll to their postal address and have "drive to," (or something similar) as an option...


Best,

--The Clown to the Left