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New Iphone will NOT cost $200!!!

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Posted by: drfernandombbs

I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.



Posted by: pavvento

I can't see the iPhone being $200 but for completely different reasons. It sounds like, for whatever reason, you are beyond aggravated by the deal Apple and AT&T have. I think the deal has worked out great for all parties, including customers.

What is better, bringing a malfunctioning phone into an AT&T store and having them tell you to mail it in and possibly be charged $500 if it's deemed to have damage not covered under warranty; or bring it to an Apple store and have them swap it out right there?

As much money as there is to be made AT&T's biggest goal was to market AT&T and to shed Cingular, and the iPhone did just that.

Additionally, if a subsidy does exist I highly doubt they will price it differently between the two stores, that would be a HUGE financial mess with book keeping. It will probably work just like every other phone rebate does, either mail in rebate, or instant credit when you activate.

I would love to see the new iPhone priced at $200 but I'm pretty sure it won't happen.



Posted by: Jasper44

another...useless...thread.



Posted by: DipLoMaTz

Is there not a stickied thread with the title rumors and speculation at the top of the page...

This section in the forums is getting out of control...



Posted by: bigvedo

what department of att do you work for? if you just a sales rep then you don't know ****. Sorry to be blunt but you are the bottom of the food chain and I don't think they will tell you or any of the sales rep or even the managers anything till the thing actually comes out.



Posted by: nfl46

^ lmao!



Posted by: XanderMac

1 of the new iPhones will be $200 or so. The other will be rather more.



Posted by: motormouth2416

The 3G version will be more. I just hope Apple lets us trade up (trade in phone + $$) to the 3G version like European carriers have promised.



Posted by: mike772

Just wait... it WILL be subsidized for some, maybe not what you think tho.

This I can confirm.



Posted by: amkls704

Quote:
Originally Posted by motormouth2416
The 3G version will be more. I just hope Apple lets us trade up (trade in phone + $$) to the 3G version like European carriers have promised.


Yeah keep hoping. It isn't gonna happen. If you have an old one, sell it. Apple nor ATT will give you money or a trade-in, that would be dumb on their part.



Posted by: bridgeman

if you buy the phone from apple, then it's unlocked/unbranded/no contract..???
if you buy from att, you have to sign a two year contract with media bundle= $65x24+200=$1760.00

yeah why on earth would att sell a phone for that.. geez



Posted by: Mark_K

I just heard on the news (radio) that it will be announced today and the price is $199.00. And this is the 3G version.

I am in Baltimore today. I heard it at 8:30 am.



Posted by: odnerd

Quote:
Originally Posted by bridgeman
if you buy the phone from apple, then it's unlocked/unbranded....

Thats what I'm hoping for. Wonder how much they'll end up paying to get out of contract with At&t first...



Posted by: Anisoul

Quote:
Originally Posted by odnerd
Thats what I'm hoping for. Wonder how much they'll end up paying to get out of contract with At&t first...

I'm just curious about the terms of the alleged subsidy. If all you have to do is re-up your contract for another two years, I'd certainly be game for that.



Posted by: ANOMIZER

I am also curious as to whether or not a rumor I read in another forum is true, and that being that the new iPhone(s?) will be eligible for customers with a FAN??

So it is coming out tomorrow? I called both AT&T, as well as Apple today, and they didn't have so much as any idea of any new imminent releases. !?



Posted by: JFLo714

Quote:
Originally Posted by bridgeman
if you buy the phone from apple, then it's unlocked/unbranded/no contract..???
if you buy from att, you have to sign a two year contract with media bundle= $65x24+200=$1760.00

yeah why on earth would att sell a phone for that.. geez


not to make a point either way...but where are you gettin the $65 from? the media packages are closely related with whatever "carrier" you have so no matter what if you plan on using all the features in the phone you will be paying a data plan whether though apple or att....just tryin to understnad that



Posted by: ghostridr

Quote:
Originally Posted by ANOMIZER
So it is coming out tomorrow? I called both AT&T, as well as Apple today, and they didn't have so much as any idea of any new imminent releases. !?


Hey, while you're at it, can you call Microsoft CS/tech. support and ask for a new cd key for my warez'd Vista Ultimate? Thanks

lol



Posted by: Arden

lol i love when people make these matter-of-fact statements and add cute exclamation marks for more affirmation when all theyre doing is speculating. You dont know what the price is going to be, you dont know if they are going to subsidize, you dont know any more than any of us here do just because you work for AT&T. and adding exclamation marks isnt going to make it seem like you do.



Posted by: tenorsaw

Quote:
Originally Posted by ghostridr
Hey, while you're at it, can you call Microsoft CS/tech. support and ask for a new cd key for my warez'd Vista Ultimate? Thanks

lol


That's funny! I was getting ready to post that he may as well call one of us.



Posted by: jomo25

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arden
lol i love when people make these matter-of-fact statements and add cute exclamation marks for more affirmation when all theyre doing is speculating. You dont know what the price is going to be, you dont know if they are going to subsidize, you dont know any more than any of us here do just because you work for AT&T. and adding exclamation marks isnt going to make it seem like you do.

My thoughts exactly! And as if being one of the thousands of AT&T employees makes you any more knowledgeable about this situation than others. My opinion is being an AT&T employee actually makes you a LESS reliable source.



Posted by: tenorsaw

Quote:
Originally Posted by jomo25
My thoughts exactly! And as if being one of the thousands of AT&T employees makes you any more knowledgeable about this situation than others. My opinion is being an AT&T employee actually makes you a LESS reliable source.


That is too funny!



Posted by: GregGebhardt

The ATT employees will not know till Tuesday when they come into work!



Posted by: cowboy1964

Wow, predicting the iPhone will be more than $200. You're a real Kreskin.



Posted by: 1G-Drew

Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderMac
1 of the new iPhones will be $200 or so. The other will be rather more.


Or they sell at the store with a $200 activation credit from AT&T. Not hard to do.



Posted by: samven582

$199 has been confirmed!!!



Posted by: Bunyfofu

Steve just said 199.99 on 4th of july.



Posted by: ATT*Mark

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.


You are an idiot. I am a manager for at&t and just because you work for the company doesn't even remotely mean you have a clue as to what at&t and Apple are talking about. The only thing you are doing is repeating what you have been reading on the internet this past year.



Posted by: Maikurukun

OWNED> hahahaha. 199 suckers.



Posted by: KillerCactii

Yes it will =)



Posted by: mobilephonie

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.


BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ and the crowd goes wild....just announced: $200 8GB with 3G!!!

EDIT and $400 for 32gb!!



Posted by: Defiant_Man11

hahaha, nice, Max $199 all around the world !!



Posted by: ScottSFA

you sure called it



Posted by: madjsp

i guess the thread creator feels dumb



Posted by: NoLimitz80

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.




Care to eat what you said?



Posted by: Kazakaz

pwned .



Posted by: elijah311

the OP was right.

It's NOT $200!

It's $199.



Posted by: nfl46

LMAO @ the OP! Ouch, that had to hurt! LOL



Posted by: Anisoul

pwned +1000000000000000000



Posted by: soulja63

guess you were wrong!!!!! LOL



Posted by: ShadowXOR

Thread creator just got:





Posted by: samven582

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowXOR
Thread creator just got:







Posted by: sye46

it's true. AT&T employees don't know sh*t.



Posted by: Maikurukun

299.99... ....



Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.


You about to lose your mind up in here..up in here. You got proved wrong. So much for inside knowledge.



Posted by: captnoir

anyone hear anything about those that bought a first gen iphone when it came out, any credit towards new 3g or just go buy one? Curious, some were talking about hearing that they may offer some to first gen buyers of the phone. Thanks. Not bad pricing, now all the non3g phones will be showing up on ebay and everywhere else for little or nothing I imagine.



Posted by: the.rebot

your order of fail has been delivered for $199



Posted by: richy240

Ouch! Someone just got COLD BUSTED! DANG!

Quote:
Originally Posted by captnoir
anyone hear anything about those that bought a first gen iphone when it came out, any credit towards new 3g or just go buy one? Curious, some were talking about hearing that they may offer some to first gen buyers of the phone. Thanks. Not bad pricing, now all the non3g phones will be showing up on ebay and everywhere else for little or nothing I imagine.

Take a guess... Nothing is free.



Posted by: bridgeman

don't you love it when know it alls find out they don't know sh&t...



Posted by: inomad

ugh. iPhone is going to be just like the razr. For $200 way too many people are going to have one.



Posted by: richy240

Quote:
Originally Posted by inomad
ugh. iPhone is going to be just like the razr. For $200 way too many people are going to have one.

Yeah, but that will make the demand for good apps, etc. even higher. I'll be buying one, that's for sure.

Anyone wanna buy a 1st gen iPhone on or around July 11th for $200?!?



Posted by: BeyondTheTech

I think that's the end of that HoFo member name... time to create a new one...



Posted by: Anisoul

Who cares about what other people will have? Don't be so vein....but you've said the same thing before so....



Posted by: GJSNeptune

Thread title revised:

Quote:
New 16GB iPhone will NOT cost $200!!!




Posted by: inomad

It seems like they focused more on making it cheaper than actually upgrading what needed to be upgraded, like the memory and camera.



Posted by: pig snot

This thread made my day. Waste of a 3.5 year old account though, quite a shame.



Posted by: Tink Tanker

Looks like I sold my 8GB refurbished for $350 just in the nick of time.

Heck, I may turn around and buy me a 16GB now.



Posted by: GJSNeptune

Not sure why Apple's so obsessed with thinness. People cutting cakes with MacBook Airs. Are people gonna start cuttin' other people with iPhones?

I don't want to hold a cracker to my ear. Some substance is nice.



Posted by: Saoirse1916

Pwned or not, it goes to show that it's a bit dumb to say stuff like "there's no way XYZ will ever happen" when you really have no facts to back you up.



Posted by: davyo

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.


drfernandombbs,, why havent you posted back ???,,, hello ????? are ya there ???

He's most likely busy registering a new different name with this forum

Cheers
Davyo



Posted by: OldSocks

I'm just happy it cost $199, but I just wonder if it is available without a contract. Probably not, or probably yes. Not going to state anything like drfernambmobmbs.



Posted by: ATT*Mark

Quote:
Originally Posted by inomad
ugh. iPhone is going to be just like the razr. For $200 way too many people are going to have one.



oh no are you not going to look as cool with out jankey *** iphone and lack of features now because everyone has one?????



Posted by: inomad

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATT*Mark
oh no are you not going to look as cool with out jankey *** iphone and lack of features now because everyone has one?????


I look forward to putting my colorware iphone in a drawer and buying a n95 8gb nam or 8800 arte.



Posted by: amkls704

Quote:
Originally Posted by inomad
I look forward to putting my colorware iphone in a drawer and buying a n95 8gb nam or 8800 arte.


n95 8gb! you won't regret it!



Posted by: tamaraa

I think those that have the 1st Gen. have a good thing. Other than the 3g issue. I wish I could keep my 16gm 1stgen and add 3g to it lol...you know the workmanship is a lot better on these...oh well...



Posted by: gettygas

lol Iphone at Walmart soon with price drop sign....



Posted by: No Nothing

I doubt apple has lowered their quality control on the 3G iphone.



Posted by: ubercool

Quote:
Originally Posted by davyo
drfernandombbs,, why havent you posted back ???,,, hello ????? are ya there ???

He's most likely busy registering a new different name with this forum

Cheers
Davyo

He's so busted!!!! I love it!



Posted by: anmoldagreat

he must feel pretty dumb right now...

but i must say im pretty happy about the price drop
ill probably get an 8gb one as my new weekend phone and sell my old one to a tmo guy.



Posted by: GregGebhardt

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.


You comments pretty well make all loose faith in anyone who works for ATT!

What does the $200 price mean to the value of the older iPhones



Posted by: johdaxx

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.


All things considered this statement from our poor ATT rep is quite true, and IMHO really the major innovation we have to thank Apple for. No phone was going to be able to make the major changes they're doing without changing the rules telecom companies have to live with.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GJSNeptune
Not sure why Apple's so obsessed with thinness. People cutting cakes with MacBook Airs. Are people gonna start cuttin' other people with iPhones?


Perhaps appropriate for ATT reps to use to commit suicide in times of dispair...



Posted by: ATT*Mark

at&t didnt get screwed. Do you have any idea the amount of new 2 year contracts they started on the iPhones behalf?



Posted by: LoUiEvUiTToNd0n

another moron who doesnt read anything and just blabs nonsense so he can get attention... how sad... LOCK this please?



Posted by: ghostridr

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATT*Mark
at&t didnt get screwed. Do you have any idea the amount of new 2 year contracts they started on the iPhones behalf?



only ppl i see getting screwed are the Iphone n00bs who don't commit to their plan of action or lack their of and sleeping on the word of steve jobby job, then cry and whine about how they can't make a decision given the facts thus far.

Company's are here to make money off consumers, they're are NOT UNICEF org.



Posted by: burton1976

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.


Open mouth...insert foot...



Posted by: sparks66

Just because you sweep floors at an ATT store doesn't mean you know jack!



Posted by: Kadin

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.

Any more 'educated' info from your obviously clouded and broken crystal ball?



Posted by: amkls704

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kadin
Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.

Any more 'educated' info from your obviously clouded and broken crystal ball?


lol they probably already got a new username by now. I wouldnt want to come back in here after something like this. He talked like he was big and got owned. Lol



Posted by: Techno

I feel obligated to get in on the "OP is clueless" bandwagon soooooo

yep..you called it...its not $200...

although $199 sure is close hehe



Posted by: deepinya

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.



I guess they really keep the peons in the loop!! /sarcasm



Posted by: xcharliemx

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.



Quoted for stupidity.



Posted by: f1restarter

LMAO!! Thread of the day!



Posted by: tryn2getaclu

Actually, depending on how one chooses to look at it, one could argue the new iPhone costs MORE than the previous model. With the data now at $30/mo instead of $20 - this equates to $240 more over the life of a 2 yr contract. Add the $240 to the $199 pricetag = $439! And, it also penalizes everyone not living in 3G coverage areas.

And, there are posts indicating the new one does not come with a dock; the new phone will not fit the old one (unconfirmed). I wouldn't be surprised if it does not come with headphones either. Add up the pieces and...



Posted by: Johndoe01

Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSocks
I'm just happy it cost $199, but I just wonder if it is available without a contract. Probably not, or probably yes. Not going to state anything like drfernambmobmbs.


Same here, I wonder whether you'll have to sign a contract in order to get that price and another thing is if the data plan will be still $20 or is it gonna be more. Also, with the new GPS feature now included in the iphone, do we have to pay extra for that?



Posted by: fatalkiss999

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowXOR
Thread creator just got:



ROFLOL Thanks this really made my day



Posted by: samc

Right, honestly I didn't think it would be $200/$300 but that certainly saves some money in my pockets now.



Posted by: Rockky

Quote:
Originally Posted by ghostridr
only ppl i see getting screwed are the Iphone n00bs who don't commit to their plan of action or lack their of and sleeping on the word of steve jobby job, then cry and whine about how they can't make a decision given the facts thus far.

Company's are here to make money off consumers, they're are NOT UNICEF org.


Well ,I'll argue one here and don't care if I 'win' or not.
Your picture/saying about winning-retarded is offensive and from the (non) sensibilities of an ignorant punk.



Posted by: ATT*Mark

but that picture is completely true....



Posted by: TMQ

$200 is a very reasonable price. I'm using a 4-yr old phone and think it's time to upgrade. Basically I'm paying the $200 for the iPod nano and the contract is paying for the phone.

Does that mean all the other smart phones will have to cut price to compete?



Posted by: GJSNeptune

There's another thread where someone mentions that the phone is half the cost of the first iPhone, but the monthly plan is $10 more, and apparently it comes out to costing you $40 more in the long run.



Posted by: amkls704

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TMQ
$200 is a very reasonable price. I'm using a 4-yr old phone and think it's time to upgrade. Basically I'm paying the $200 for the iPod nano and the contract is paying for the phone.

Does that mean all the other smart phones will have to cut price to compete?


i don't think they will cut prices to compete. A lot of manufacturers have a pretty loyal fan base. The old iphone was still less than an n95 and look at how many people still bought those. There is still a lot to be desired in a phone that the iphone just doesn't have. It leaves a lot of room for other companies to do what they want.



Posted by: Kadin

Quote:
Originally Posted by TMQ
$200 is a very reasonable price. I'm using a 4-yr old phone and think it's time to upgrade. Basically I'm paying the $200 for the iPod nano and the contract is paying for the phone.

Does that mean all the other smart phones will have to cut price to compete?

If they truly want to compete... I'd think so.

All I know is that when Jobs announced the price... if you listened closely, about 20 VP's and CEO's with various phone manufacturers cried out in shear terror.



Posted by: DerekToronto

Guys guys please read carefully...towards the end "Both pricepoints require a contract."

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/...nally-official/


SO you maybe looking at 8gig $299-399 and 16gig $499-599.



Posted by: ghostridr

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockky
Well ,I'll argue one here and don't care if I 'win' or not.
Your picture/saying about winning-retarded is offensive and from the (non) sensibilities of an ignorant punk.


another anal douche bag who takes the net way too seriously..

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATT*Mark
but that picture is completely true....


hahahahaha..



Posted by: Sergio29007

Quote:
Originally Posted by DerekToronto
Guys guys please read carefully...towards the end "Both pricepoints require a contract."

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/...nally-official/


SO you maybe looking at 8gig $299-399 and 16gig $499-599.

the first gen iphone also required a contract and was the same price for everybody,
IPHONE 3g will probably cost $200 regardless of whether you sign a contract or not



Posted by: TimmyPoo

I know everyone's already said it, but I just want to throw in my two cents:

Dear OP,

You have been incomprehensibly pwnd, and I hope all of HoFo, your family, friends and whichever god you believe in never forgive you.

Thanks.



Posted by: Chip90

HAHA!

This is the BEST thread so far. OP, you just got pwned like a n00b. haha, good laugh



Posted by: Kadin

ITT - How to post and then NEVER post again under the same username.



Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.


This post is riddled with fail.



Posted by: sailwind

PWNED!






Posted by: M_Dee





Posted by: RF9

http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?p...articleid=25791
Quote:
New Agreement With Apple Reflects Significant Growth Opportunity
The new agreement between Apple and AT&T eliminates the revenue-sharing model under which AT&T shared a portion of monthly service revenue with Apple. Under the revised agreement, which is consistent with traditional equipment manufacturer-carrier arrangements, there is no revenue sharing and both
iPhone 3G models will be offered at attractive prices to broaden the market potential and accelerate subscriber volumes. The phones will be offered with a two-year contract and attractive data plans that are similar to those offered for other smartphones and PDAs. AT&T anticipates that these offers will drive increased sales volumes and revenues among high-quality, data-centric customers. Currently, less than 20 percent of AT&T's postpaid subscribers have integrated devices capable of voice, Web and data applications. Based on the company's experience, average monthly revenues per iPhone subscriber are nearly double the average of the company's overall subscriber base.

* With a two-year contract, the price of an 8GB iPhone 3G will be $199; the 16GB model will be priced at $299.
* Unlimited iPhone 3G data plans for consumers will be available for $30 a month, in addition to voice plans starting at $39.99 a month.
* Unlimited 3G data plans for business users will be available for $45 a month, in addition to a voice plan.

In the near term, AT&T anticipates that the new agreement will likely result in some pressure on margins and earnings, reflecting the costs of subsidized device pricing, which, in turn, is expected to drive increased subscriber volumes. The company anticipates potential dilution to earnings per share (EPS) from this initiative in the $0.10 to $0.12 range this year and next, with a 2008 adjusted consolidated operating income margin of approximately 24 percent and a full-year 2008 wireless OIBDA margin in the 39-40 percent range. As recurring revenue streams build without any further revenue sharing required, AT&T expects the initiative to turn accretive in 2010.

Three comments:
1) $199/$299 is subsidized by AT&T, according to this. Paraphrasing, they're going to lose their shirts selling these things because they plan to make it up in selling data plans.
2) Data plan prices go up to $30 and $45. Blackberry style pricing.
3) What's not clear is if a current person, in contract, not eligible for a upgrade discount, will have to pay more than $199/$299. Or will it be the same as the old iPhone (same price regardless?)



Posted by: No Nothing

To the OP, HAHAHAHA!!!! FAIL!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio29007
the first gen iphone also required a contract and was the same price for everybody,
IPHONE 3g will probably cost $200 regardless of whether you sign a contract or not


I doubt it since most of the AT&T stores all said it would be subsidized. We all know phones cost more bought without contract. The biggest clue that it won't be that cheap is the Touch. What would be the point of it even being available?



Posted by: Joe270

This topic deserves to be a sticky



Posted by: Mit905

further proves people who work at At&t dont know ****



Posted by: ANOMIZER

Ok great. I love the subsidized phone strategy. So with my Blackberry, how can I add the iPhone next month?? I want to keep BOTH devices.

I guess I'll get the $200...Oops, I mean $199 version because of the color ONLY. 16GB in white only??? I'd get it if it were black, but in all likelihood, I won't need more than 8GB anyway...A white iPhone...Hmm...I can't visualize it right now, but I know I'll prefer a sleek black, and $200 iPhone



Posted by: RussPath03

Add a 2nd/3rd line for $10 bucks a month and get it for $199.



Posted by: ANOMIZER

You really think I need a 2nd line?? Don't really need one, although the SIM switching will get old.

I will also get the Blackberry Bold. Those two. I have a Blackberry Curve now. How would I best fit that in. I am eligible to upgrade, just FYI.??



Posted by: hlysmksbtmn

Quote:
Originally Posted by tryn2getaclu
Actually, depending on how one chooses to look at it, one could argue the new iPhone costs MORE than the previous model. With the data now at $30/mo instead of $20 - this equates to $240 more over the life of a 2 yr contract. Add the $240 to the $199 pricetag = $439! And, it also penalizes everyone not living in 3G coverage areas.

And, there are posts indicating the new one does not come with a dock; the new phone will not fit the old one (unconfirmed). I wouldn't be surprised if it does not come with headphones either. Add up the pieces and...


Do we know if the $30/mo includes the 200 texts or will that be $5 extra?



Posted by: RF9

If the pricing is in line with the PDA personal plan and Blackberry personal plan. Then $30 is data only and texts is an add on. Not sure, though.



Posted by: nickmil

Quote:
Originally Posted by hlysmksbtmn
Do we know if the $30/mo includes the 200 texts or will that be $5 extra?


This is part of the transcript from an interview of Ralph De La Vega from Om Malik

Quote:
OM: Has there been a change in the cost of data plans?
RDLV: The data plans are different on the 3G iPhone versus the 2G iPhone. Consumers will pay $30 a month every month, while enterprises will pay $45 a month. This is what you pay us on other PDA devices such as Blackberry Curve. The SMS messages are not bundled anymore, and you pay for what you want. Again the prices are based on what you buy.




Posted by: reas0n555

pwned to the first degree,now watch him/her say " i was talking about the 16 gig"



Posted by: davyo

Im still wondering why "drfernandombbs" hasnt made any follow-up post on the this thread he started,,,,,, that was a joke !!!!!!!

Perhaps it needs to be said that I dont think the majority of people want to kick someone when they are down but in this case I think we are making an exception in light of his post.
His post was almost saying that anyone that thought a $200.00 iPhone would be anounced was a dumb-*** and he took great pride of being in the know as an ATT employee.

Normaly, I think such a screw-up would be forgivable,, but givin what he wrote in his post and the attitude he had,,, me thinks he deserves negitive feedback.

One thing I do wonder is how he is justifing how wrong he was.
Like, what excuss is he using to convince himself he is not a ******* ???

Cheers
Davyo



Posted by: elnino

Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY were going to sell the iphone for $200. Apple will never agree with that. So everyone can stop dreaming. I mean you seriously think apple will allow ATT to sell it for $200?

Then no one will go to the apple store to buy the darn phone, and the iphone is a huge pulling point for apple stores, because people will buy something else while their there. mark my words "NOT HAPPENING". The only thing that might happen is the old iphone might sell for $200 with contract just to get rid of them. Beacuse we still have many left, but the new one, HECK NO!

ATT got screwed in this deal, apple controls us with the iphone (why do you think Verizon rejected them), seriously i mean its the only phone that we changed our rules for, from how to sell the phone, to even the darn warranty. We cant even exchange the darn phone for customers in the store.

Think what ever you want, but everyone will see tomorrow, its going to be priced between $400 to $600.






Posted by: bigb252

Funniest thread I've read in a LONG time...rofl



Posted by: Tommy3rd

Quote:
Originally Posted by reas0n555
pwned to the first degree,now watch him/her say " i was talking about the 16 gig"

even then, he would be wrong. LOL
he said the phone would be between $400 and $600. It turned out to be between $199 and $299.



Posted by: BeyondTheTech

I've seen forum mods ban users, but I've never seen a user ban himself. That was pretty effective.



Posted by: amkls704

Well, if you go to find all posts by the OP, about half of his posts start off with "I work for AT&T..."

Apparently he's either really proud of that fact or is lying about it.



Posted by: BeyondTheTech

He's got a perfect track record!

Posted June 7, 2008:
Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY that we're getting any bandwith caps on our network...


Posted May 27, 2008:
Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY that we're going to reduce our early termination fees...


Posted May 22, 2008:
Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY that ship out single, empty ATT plastic bags in cardboard shipping boxes...


Posted May 21, 2008:
Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY that we'll complete our 3G rollout by June...


Posted May 14, 2008:
Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY that we'll sell refurbed iPhones for $249 and $349...


Posted February 18, 2008:
Quote:
Originally Posted by drfernandombbs
I work for ATT and let me tell you guys/gals their is no WAY the Tilt is getting a software upgrade...






Of course, I'm bored and this is just a joke post.



Posted by: ANOMIZER

Quote:
Originally Posted by RF9
If the pricing is in line with the PDA personal plan and Blackberry personal plan. Then $30 is data only and texts is an add on. Not sure, though.


Hi! Yea, I see your point. Well, I want to get BOTH the Blackberry Bold *AND* the iPhone and I am on a Business account and also eligible to upgrade. How do I pull this off? Ideally, get the Bold first, and then, apparently, I get to upgrade again!??

That's not my main issue. I'm on the $64.99 BB Int'l unlimited data plan. It works great, and I have a Tilt that I don't use, too, and I put the SIM in it to check if the data would work, and to my surprise, it does!! So with a special BB plan, and a special iPhone, and both have international unlimited (right?), which data plan do I choose??



Posted by: RF9

Be careful using that BB plan in a non BB PDA.
While the BB plan does include the wap.cingular access point it likely is NOT covered for international use. Your tilt uses wap.cingular.
The BB uses blackberry.net as the APN and unlimited data for international may only be covered on that access point name. On wap.cingular it may only be unlimited for domestic use, not international. I really don't know for sure.

But yea, the BB plan works just fine on the Tilt and as far as I know it's actually OK to use it that way.

I'm just not sure about the international coverage for wap.cingular (the Tilt.) I think you'd have to call AT&T to get the answer on that. But then they'll probably give you attitude that it doesn't even work on a Tilt or some BS.

For 3G iPhone, I don't know if any standard data plan will work on it. I don't see why it wouldn't, but until it comes out I don't think we'll know.
The iPhone uses wap.cingular too, I believe, so it should work no different than any other PDA. But AT&T may have special activation stuff going on where the iPhone will only actually work if it's provisioned with a special plan.

The BB international plan you have SHOULD be just fine. When the iPhone 3G comes out (wait for AT&T to train tech support) you can ask them. Even if they say no it may still work.



Posted by: amkls704

Quote:
Originally Posted by BeyondTheTech
He's got a perfect track record!

Posted June 7, 2008:

Posted May 27, 2008:

Posted May 22, 2008:

Posted May 21, 2008:

Posted May 14, 2008:

Posted February 18, 2008:





Of course, I'm bored and this is just a joke post.


Good one at that!



Posted by: mbranscum

You guys have shamed the op from the forum!



Posted by: crazymexx

I bet the person who started this thread feels stupid.... People jumping the gun/ not knowing what they're talking about lmao!!!!



Posted by: michaelflorio82

Yeah I am a RSC and I can tell WE DONT KNOW JACK!! I get my info from the same places everyone on these forums do. They have not told us anything you have not already read.



Posted by: tryn2getaclu

I do not know if anyone has posted this or not, too many posts to read, but has anyone looked at the true cost of owning an iphone 3G over the 2 yr contract?
Phone $199, service (minimum) $39.99/mo, data $30/mo (and if no SMS included), SMS $5/mo (at the very least), taxes & fees $15 (assumption) comes to about $2,448.75 over 2 yrs! That is one expensive phone and certainly shines a different light on the "CHEAP $199" price Stevie was so proudly boasting.

And, that does not include money for the dock which is not included and/or the many apps people will want and/or need to more fully appreciate the capacities of the phone.



Posted by: michaelflorio82

Quote:
Originally Posted by tryn2getaclu
I do not know if anyone has posted this or not, too many posts to read, but has anyone looked at the true cost of owning an iphone 3G over the 2 yr contract?
Phone $199, service (minimum) $39.99/mo, data $30/mo (and if no SMS included), SMS $5/mo (at the very least), taxes & fees $15 (assumption) comes to about $2,448.75 over 2 yrs! That is one expensive phone and certainly shines a different light on the "CHEAP $199" price Stevie was so proudly boasting.

And, that does not include money for the dock which is not included and/or the many apps people will want and/or need to more fully appreciate the capacities of the phone.


Thats no more than if you were to buy a Tilt or similar priced phone though. Heck I pay WAY more than that a year, but I have unlimited everything.



Posted by: free_gas

Quote:
Originally Posted by tryn2getaclu
Phone $199, service (minimum) $39.99/mo, data $30/mo (and if no SMS included), SMS $5/mo (at the very least), taxes & fees $15 (assumption) comes to about $2,448.75 over 2 yrs! .


well i hope that i do not see people with this new iphone complaining about gas prices...



Posted by: tryn2getaclu

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelflorio82
Thats no more than if you were to buy a Tilt or similar priced phone though. Heck I pay WAY more than that a year, but I have unlimited everything.

I do not doubt your expenditure or that of tilt, etc. users. I just think the presentation is extremely manipulative and misrepresenting the true cost of the phone.



Posted by: michaelflorio82

Quote:
Originally Posted by free_gas
well i hope that i do not see people with this new iphone complaining about gas prices...


WHAT!? The iPhone cant be used to get free gas!? Oh thats it I am NOT buying one!





Posted by: michaelflorio82

Quote:
Originally Posted by tryn2getaclu
I do not doubt your expenditure or that of tilt, etc. users. I just think the presentation is extremely manipulative and misrepresenting the true cost of the phone.



Not really, no one advertises your yearly cost of ownership for thier services. You never see a service provider show you the total cost of your services over the course of your contract, it would scare consumers away.



Posted by: ANOMIZER

Quote:
Originally Posted by RF9
Be careful using that BB plan in a non BB PDA.
While the BB plan does include the wap.cingular access point it likely is NOT covered for international use. Your tilt uses wap.cingular.
The BB uses blackberry.net as the APN and unlimited data for international may only be covered on that access point name. On wap.cingular it may only be unlimited for domestic use, not international. I really don't know for sure.

But yea, the BB plan works just fine on the Tilt and as far as I know it's actually OK to use it that way.

I'm just not sure about the international coverage for wap.cingular (the Tilt.) I think you'd have to call AT&T to get the answer on that. But then they'll probably give you attitude that it doesn't even work on a Tilt or some BS.

For 3G iPhone, I don't know if any standard data plan will work on it. I don't see why it wouldn't, but until it comes out I don't think we'll know.
The iPhone uses wap.cingular too, I believe, so it should work no different than any other PDA. But AT&T may have special activation stuff going on where the iPhone will only actually work if it's provisioned with a special plan.

The BB international plan you have SHOULD be just fine. When the iPhone 3G comes out (wait for AT&T to train tech support) you can ask them. Even if they say no it may still work.


Gotycha...Actually, when I go into Opions ----> Advanced Options ----> TCP, it says APN: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM, pw: ********* (9 star'd out pw)...CINGULAR1 is 9 keystokes! lol...Hmmm...



Posted by: f1restarter

to the OP, are you related to Baghdad Bob by any chance?



Posted by: tryn2getaclu

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelflorio82
Not really, no one advertises your yearly cost of ownership for their services. You never see a service provider show you the total cost of your services over the course of your contract, it would scare consumers away.

Ok, I really do not wish to take this too much further. I will simply say that most do not have huge anticipatory product releases and announce to a room full of applause how the new product will be half the price of the former version when in reality is actually costs more than the former version and penalizes a huge portion of the potential customer base (those not in 3G areas).

You are entitled to your opinion and me to mine. I maintain that the way in which Jobs handled this product release, with all the anticipatory secrecy (which no other manufacturer or provider does), and the pricing, IMHO was manipulative and misrepresented to the masses. Most customers do not read these forums or even do any homework. Why else would thousands of 1sg gen iPhones (locked) sell on ebay for more than the store were selling them? Most people are uninformed and get their info from the headlines that say "new iPhone twice as fast at half the price". OOOOOOO - gotta git me one of them! They could have just come out much more forthright. Another misleading comment of Stevo was something like "dramatically improved audio". This ambiguous statement could mean anything from we removed the piece of plastic between the speaker and cover that everyone was poking holes thru to hear the speaker better to an improved RF component.

I just found the entire presentation self indulgent, overly hyped, manipulative and misleading. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!



Posted by: paul34

Closing since it seems the thread has quickly run its cours.e





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