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Posted by: adizm_55

with the addition of 3G? That's the only thing that will keep me from passing my 1st Gen on to my wife and plunking down my $200 on the 11th.

On a side note, I wonder if they will include turn by turn directions or just count on 3rd party developers to take care of that for them.

Posted by: mdsalvador89

This is exactly what I've been wondering. Right now for existing customers you just add a data plan of $20, $30, or $40. Anyone have any thoughts about the rate plans?

Posted by: spleck

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Originally Posted by mdsalvador89

This is exactly what I've been wondering. Right now for existing customers you just add a data plan of $20, $30, or $40. Anyone have any thoughts about the rate plans?

It looks like the data is $30 now.

Posted by: adizm_55

Do you have a source?

Posted by: spleck

I can't find the page now, but on Apple's site, it said you can add a $30 data package to a plan of $39.99 or more.

Edit: Pages have changed... I think it was at: (It had been updated for 3G, but now its been pulled.) http://www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html

But Engadget has the same info:

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On AT&T unlimited iPhone 3G data plans for consumers will be available for $30 a month, on top of voice plans starting at $39.99 a month. Unlimited 3G data for business users will be $45 a month, on top of voice. There's a minimum two-year agreement, but we're not positive what that'll look like for those currently enslaved to an AT&T contract -- you could be looking at a solid four years of time if you just took the plunge.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/...nally-official/

Posted by: xj911

engadget.com ...business users add $45 a month for data! YIKES

Posted by: brad76

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Originally Posted by adizm_55

Do you have a source?

Thats what engadget is reporting: See here

Also, they mention no turn-by-turn directions, apparently Apple's leaving a spot for a 3rd party vendor to make a buck on one of the new SDK apps from the app store, which ain't a bad idea.

Posted by: Derek Zoolander

damn, honestly I would not pay any extra monthly for GPS option. I have free GPS on my magellan

Why would I pay for more. I'm not even sure I would pay an extra $10 for 3g, if given the option.

Posted by: mdsalvador89

$30 is a dealbreaker for me. From adding $480 for two years to $720..

Posted by: spleck

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Originally Posted by brad76

Also, they mention no turn-by-turn directions, apparently Apple's leaving a spot for a 3rd party vendor to make a buck on one of the new SDK apps from the app store, which ain't a bad idea.

I imagine Garmin will get their software out for the iPhone. They've usually been considered the "mac" of GPSs.

Posted by: adizm_55

$30 may have me sitting the bench on this one... (but we'll see).

Posted by: brad76

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Originally Posted by mdsalvador89

$30 is a dealbreaker for me. From adding $480 for two years to $720..

Damn, so you had full data for only $20? You guys were spoiled! It just recently got reduced to $30 on verizon for smartphones. Dumbphones (w/ nonfunctional browsers) get data for $15, but really, whats the point for wap anyway.

Posted by: edlsmiths

yikes...30.00 the 10.00 increase is a lot. Although I do need true gps. I do hope garmin puts out there software for the iphone. I have garmin devices before and they have really good UI.

Posted by: SimplyDrew

I was really wanting turn-by-turn GPS out of the box as well, because I've been in the market for a portable GPS unit for my car but when I heard about the GPS in the iPhone I was sure that it would have already had that functionality out of the box. Oh well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things shape up in that department.

I don't think the new data prices are going to go over well with the crowd. People with Treo's and other PDA devices are not having to pay more for data and they have access to the 3G network, so I don't see why iPhone users should be any different.

Posted by: brad76

so you pay $20 now for unlimited (5gb) 3G network access on a treo or winmo device?

edit - I wouldn't ask such an obvious question, but the ATT site is down right now so I can't exactly go look it up myself.

Posted by: tks989

That A-GPS is BS
I still want the phone.
Wonder if the apps would work well w/ TMO edge when unlocked
My TMO contract is up next week.
AT&T has a huge gap between their first 2 individual plans... If they can work out a good, affordable 3G plan, i'll switch. ONLY THEN

Posted by: ivwshane

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Originally Posted by brad76

so you pay $20 now for unlimited (5gb) 3G network access on a treo or winmo device?

edit - I wouldn't ask such an obvious question, but the ATT site is down right now so I can't exactly go look it up myself.

Data for pda devices on at&t are $30 for unlimited, the iphone will now be inline with that.

Posted by: mdsalvador89

Noob question coming here:

So, if I don't want to pay $30 a month for 3G, is it possible for me to buy a current gen iPhone (EDGE, no GPS) off ebay and head to AT&T and add one of the older $20 data plans?

Posted by: KDarling

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Originally Posted by brad76

so you pay $20 now for unlimited (5gb) 3G network access on a treo or winmo device?

The personal PDA plan for 3G devices is $30 a month.

That's why a bunch of us predicted that the 3G iPhone would pay the same.

Or else ATT will have to lower the prices all around.

Posted by: SimplyDrew

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Originally Posted by mdsalvador89

Noob question coming here:

So, if I don't want to pay $30 a month for 3G, is it possible for me to buy a current gen iPhone (EDGE, no GPS) off ebay and head to AT&T and add one of the older $20 data plans?

Yes, the current generation iPhone that is EDGE only can accept the $20 iPhone data plan or the $15 MEdia Net plan, because they're the same. Because of AT&T's inability to distringuish off network access from MEdia Net, PDA Connect, Data Connect, and what have you...it's my personal prediction that the next generation iPhone will still be able to run off of the $15 MEdia Net plan without issue because people to this day tether with it, use it in their Data Connect cards, and use it on PDA phones as well. However, the question from that point is will we lose some functionality such as the App store if for some reason we're not on their new predicted "special" iPhone plan.

Posted by: tks989

another thing is A-GPS seems to rely on 3G

Posted by: mdywglr4x4

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Originally Posted by brad76

How much is the unlimited everything and anything for AT&T and iPhone going to be?

I pay 99.99 and get unlimited minutes, unlimited text, unlimited MMS, unlimited data including phone as modem if I get desperate

I use the **** out of some data and text on my Samsung IP 830W...

If you want unlimited text and data added onto a basic plan it is 20 dollars and it is 3G... I don't see paying extra for 3G when no one else does. Kind of bummed to hear that. I hate Apple but for 200 bucks it looks to be a good deal finally

Posted by: brad76

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Originally Posted by mdywglr4x4

I don't see paying extra for 3G when no one else does. Kind of bummed to hear that.

Well I think as you can see from this thread so far, everyone else except iphone 1.0 users ARE paying the $30 a month... so yeah, not really getting screwed, as another poster pointed out, they're just raising the price to be competitive with their other smartphones because, technically now, the iphone is a smartphone.

Posted by: trmas

This is what most other major carriers charge, is it not? I always wondered how the data on the IPhone was such a good deal...

I know it is how much Verizon charges already

Posted by: vtecsohc

Apple unveils faster new iPhone, chops price
AP
Posted: 2008-06-09 16:13:19
CAPS101, CAPS102, CAER101

By JORDAN ROBERTSON

AP Technology Writer

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Apple Inc. unveiled an upgraded iPhone Monday with a faster Internet connection and satellite navigation capabilities - priced $200 lower than current models, but with more expensive service.

Analysts have said Apple needed to slash the multimedia gadget's price and upgrade it to work over so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks to hit the company's target of selling 10 million iPhones by the end of 2008.

An 8 gigabyte model is to sell for $199 starting July 11. A 16 gigabyte model will cost $299. The devices are to roll out initially in 22 countries.

Apple has inked deals for wireless carriers in a total of 70 countries to carry the new iPhone.

AT&T Inc., the exclusive U.S. carrier for the phone, said its plans for the phone will start at $39.99 per month, plus $30 for unlimited data. That works out to be a $10 increase from the cheapest plan for the first-generation iPhone.

AT&T also warned of an earnings hit due to the pricing, pointing to carrier subsidies as the reason for the price cut rather than a price reduction from Apple.

And Apple said in a regulatory filing that under most of its new carrier agreements, it will not receive a share of subscribers' monthly service fees, as has been the case with the first-generation iPhone.

Apple's participation in the cell-phone market has been hurt by complaints about the year-old iPhone's data download speeds, which can make simple tasks like sending pictures over e-mail or downloading Internet videos painfully slow.

Apple said the 3G iPhone downloads data twice as fast the old one.

Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs said that when the original iPhone was designed, the chips used on the faster network sapped too much battery life and were too bulky. The company decided to wait to improve the device until better chip technology emerged that could fit the iPhone's slim design.

The addition of global-positioning technology improves the iPhone's accuracy in locating users. Current versions use a combination of cell-phone towers and Wi-Fi locations to help users figure out where they are.

Jobs showed off the phone at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference in San Francisco. His announcements were widely expected.

Apple said it had sold 6 million iPhones since the first model was launched nearly a year ago, and 700,000 since March. That points to a steady slowdown in sales from the fourth quarter last year, as customers have been waiting for the 3G version.

Posted by: homegeek

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Originally Posted by tks989

another thing is A-GPS seems to rely on 3G

Where are you seeing that? It sounds like it has a real GPS chip but uses wifi and cell towers just to make it quicker.

Posted by: samc

question is.. can we TETHER with this new 3g pricing plan? If so it might be worth it. I mean the browser on the phone is nice but all of us have a laptop as well.

Posted by: mdywglr4x4

Yah if you are just adding a "data plans" it is 30 dollars.

The "unlimited plans" start at 69.99 with 450 minutes and unlimited everything else. What would an iPhone be with 450 minutes and unlimited everything else?

Posted by: Derek Zoolander

maybe this is a stupid question - if we are sticking to our old iphones and changing nothing, is our data plan price increasing to $30?

Posted by: dm30

Argh. Not looking like such a great deal afterall.

Today I pay $37.50 (after discount) on Sprint for unlimited data including the ability to tether. Thats EVDO which I believe is considered 3G. I get 1-1.5mbps.

ATT just had a conference call with investors to talk about the phone.

You can no longer walk out of an Apple store with an iPhone without signing up for an ATT 2yr commitment. I don't know what that will mean for unlockers.

FCC report is out. SAR numbers (radiation from the phone) is quite high. Mandated limit is 1.6, new iPhone is 1.39, old phone was around .98. My current phone is 0.6. I'd rather avoid a cancer risk if I can help it. The less radiation the better.

The old iPhone is sounding better to me. Too bad you can't get it anywhere.

They didn't say if they'll continue to offer the $20 plan with the old iPhone.

Posted by: mdywglr4x4

Can't find any rate plans online and apple seems to have magically have "moved" the rate plans on their site...

What is it with the new plan? Debating on switching but it seems to not be so hot and will end up being hundreds more than my current unlimited.

What about the plans with my wife... how much does ATT charge to add a person to my unlimited plan?

What is "tether"? Nevermind. Using it as a modem

Posted by: RogerPodacter

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Originally Posted by tks989

That A-GPS is BS
I still want the phone.
Wonder if the apps would work well w/ TMO edge when unlocked
My TMO contract is up next week.
AT&T has a huge gap between their first 2 individual plans... If they can work out a good, affordable 3G plan, i'll switch. ONLY THEN

why is A-GPS bull sh@t? you realize that agps is true gps from the satellites, dont you?

Posted by: RogerPodacter

for anyone wondering what a-GPS means, it just means that it uses an assistance server. so when the GPS first turns on, it looks for satellite signal. it needs a few minutes of continuous signal to pinpoint your location. a-GPS sends the info to the assistance server, which also has GPS, and does the up front calculations for the phone, then sends it back to the phone much quicker than the phone's CPU could handle. basically agps gives you satellite lock times in 15 seconds, then its all true GPS from there on out.

agps is a very good thing! your phone does NOT need 3G/gsm though to use gps...it would just take longer to get the initial satellite lock without it.

Posted by: tks989

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Originally Posted by RogerPodacter

why is A-GPS bull sh@t? you realize that agps is true gps from the satellites, dont you?

out the box this is what it does according to apple.com

iPhone 3G finds your location via GPS or by triangulating your position using Wi-Fi and cellular towers. It also finds points of interest by keyword: Search for “coffee” and iPhone shows you every cafe nearby.

that is A-GPS. it says nothing about satellite. Now what devs decide to make and how they use the GPS chip is a different story, and money. But this a-gps really isn't the true GPS other phones implement.

Posted by: ebrunn

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Originally Posted by tks989

The page about GPS mentions the word "satellite"like 5 times.

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In addition to A-GPS, iPhone 3G uses signals from GPS satellites, Wi-Fi hot spots, and cellular towers to get the most accurate location fast.

Posted by: Mark_K

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Originally Posted by trmas

This is what most other major carriers charge, is it not? I always wondered how the data on the IPhone was such a good deal...

I know it is how much Verizon charges already

I'm with Verizon and I pay 39.99 per month for data.
However, I get EVDO every where I go.

This is not ture for 3G coverage.

Most places you will only get 2G (Edge).

Dose that seem right?

Posted by: tks989

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Originally Posted by ebrunn

The page about GPS mentions the word "satellite"like 5 times.

say ur iphone isn't connected or you forget to pay ur bill... does the gps work? i think not.

Posted by: Beweglich

Yes it does. Every phone whether activated or not can dial 911 and when you dial 911 with AGPS the call activates it so the rescue team or what not can locate you if you are unable to speak. Thus the E911 or Location option many phones have in settings. I believe the FCC now requires it by law or something, which might be why they had to add GPS to the iPhone.

Posted by: ivwshane

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Originally Posted by tks989

say ur iphone isn't connected or you forget to pay ur bill... does the gps work? i think not.

I know that on my blackberry curve I can turn off the phone service and the gps still works (I can see in the gps options that it is still tracking satellites). That tells me that if I have a program whose maps are locally stored on the phone then gps directions/programs will work if there is no cellular network present.

Posted by: dmk1974

Let me ask this...if you buy the 3G iPhone, can you still subscribe to the current $20 EDGE plan? I realize you don't get some of the benefits that differentiate it from the current iPhone, but that 16 GB 3G phone is $200 less than the current 16 GB phone.

Posted by: mdywglr4x4

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Originally Posted by dmk1974

Let me ask this...if you buy the 3G iPhone, can you still subscribe to the current $20 EDGE plan? I realize you don't get some of the benefits that differentiate it from the current iPhone, but that 16 GB 3G phone is $200 less than the current 16 GB phone.

DOUBTFUL...

Posted by: wien19

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Originally Posted by tks989

another thing is A-GPS seems to rely on 3G

My buddy's Blackberry on ATT with EDGE only has A-GPS... works quite well.

Posted by: dude4

to all you guys complaining of data stfu

rogers the best data plan was 65$ for 1gb(technically for pc cards only) now thats dead and the new price is $100 for a gig and those are the best data plans you can hope for with gsm phones in canada

hopefully that changes with the iphone specific plans but rumor is there gonna bring back the recently canceled 65$ for 1gb and pretend its a deal

not to mention the iphone is a mandatory 3 year contract up here

enjoy your deal it may be worse than before but because i live a hour north of you i get to live in the cellular dark ages