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How long before 2.0 is hacked?

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Posted by: Meave

There is no doubt that 2.0 is going to get hacked allowing us T-Mobile people to acceess all the glory of the new update, but the question is-how long? I say 48 hours max.



Posted by: DaRtHXtC

I think it will be hacked before the actual release. Depending on how long the RTM version is out before July 11th.



Posted by: bottlecap

I give it two months, I give it that long because Apple has watched the iphone 1 get hacked, unlocked, chopped AND screwed, and they are taking that information and applying it to the new iphone. Steve is a wiley one.



Posted by: XanderMac

the beta releases have already been hacked and unlocked. Apparently though, with each new release of the beta its getting more and more secure. I imagine the final release will be locked down tighter than a gnats chuff.



Posted by: toomer

Quote:
Originally Posted by bottlecap
I give it two months, I give it that long because Apple has watched the iphone 1 get hacked, unlocked, chopped AND screwed, and they are taking that information and applying it to the new iphone. Steve is a wiley one.


You may be right on that.

Before, since Apple had a revenue share agreement with carriers - you could assume they were very concerned about "unlocking", and how that impacted their bottom line.

But now, with that revenue item gone ... and the AppStore replacing it, it's not a big jump to assume that jailbreaking will be much more of a concern for them now (i.e.: people getting free apps, instead of paying for them through iTunes). They may put more focus on hardening up the OS as a whole.

Honestly, though - I think the market will solve this problem for them, though. If enough fun/cool apps are free through the iTunes store, the amount of interest in actually jailbreaking the phone will drop significantly - which means the labor available to do so will also drop.

Hard to know for sure. But I definitely don't think firmware 2.0 will be jailbroken within 48 hours. Didn't they run into trouble with jailbreaking the last 3, 4 fw2.0 releases? I could have sworn I saw a post on TUAW that said they haven't been able to jailbreak 2.0 since the release bundled with SDK 3 (they are now up to SDK release 7).



Posted by: DaRtHXtC

Quote:
Originally Posted by toomer
You may be right on that.

Before, since Apple had a revenue share agreement with carriers - you could assume they were very concerned about "unlocking", and how that impacted their bottom line.

But now, with that revenue item gone ... and the AppStore replacing it, it's not a big jump to assume that jailbreaking will be much more of a concern for them now (i.e.: people getting free apps, instead of paying for them through iTunes). They may put more focus on hardening up the OS as a whole.

Honestly, though - I think the market will solve this problem for them, though. If enough fun/cool apps are free through the iTunes store, the amount of interest in actually jailbreaking the phone will drop significantly - which means the labor available to do so will also drop.

Hard to know for sure. But I definitely don't think firmware 2.0 will be jailbroken within 48 hours. Didn't they run into trouble with jailbreaking the last 3, 4 fw2.0 releases? I could have sworn I saw a post on TUAW that said they haven't been able to jailbreak 2.0 since the release bundled with SDK 3 (they are now up to SDK release 7).


That info I didn't know. I was basing my assumption that they had already hacked the beta 2.0 firmwares so it would be a repeat process.



Posted by: toomer

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaRtHXtC
That info I didn't know. I was basing my assumption that they had already hacked the beta 2.0 firmwares so it would be a repeat process.


I'm looking around on TUAW to see if I can find that quote again, but not having any luck at the moment. But I could swear I'd read there (or maybe it was another site) that they have not jailbroken the last 3, 4 firmwares. But I guess the big question is - how much effort have they put in to doing so? If they haven't put a lot of effort in, then perhaps it's no big deal.

Maybe someone more familiar with the subject can chime in.



Posted by: DaRtHXtC

Quote:
Originally Posted by toomer
I'm looking around on TUAW to see if I can find that quote again, but not having any luck at the moment. But I could swear I'd read there (or maybe it was another site) that they have not jailbroken the last 3, 4 firmwares. But I guess the big question is - how much effort have they put in to doing so? If they haven't put a lot of effort in, then perhaps it's no big deal.

Maybe someone more familiar with the subject can chime in.


Either way I'll get the 3G and use it locked until they do unlock. I did the same thing with the v1.



Posted by: tenorsaw

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meave
There is no doubt that 2.0 is going to get hacked allowing us T-Mobile people to acceess all the glory of the new update, but the question is-how long? I say 48 hours max.


T-Mobile customers won't access all the glory, especially the 3G.



Posted by: VDubb

2.0 is still coming to the older models, not just 3G.

- VDubb



Posted by: Xarlon

Quote:
Originally Posted by toomer
Didn't they run into trouble with jailbreaking the last 3, 4 fw2.0 releases? I could have sworn I saw a post on TUAW that said they haven't been able to jailbreak 2.0 since the release bundled with SDK 3 (they are now up to SDK release 7).

Yes, I remember reading that as well. They also said the last 2.0 fw they were able to jailbrake was expected to be easily patched by Apple before it's actual release.



Posted by: phil325

Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderMac
the beta releases have already been hacked and unlocked. Apparently though, with each new release of the beta its getting more and more secure. I imagine the final release will be locked down tighter than a gnats chuff.

Gnats chuff? Don't even know what that is but sounds gross



Posted by: toomer

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xarlon
Yes, I remember reading that as well. They also said the last 2.0 fw they were able to jailbrake was expected to be easily patched by Apple before it's actual release.


Thanks for the confirmation. Now I know I'm not going crazy...

I've posted a separate thread in the hacking and unlocking forum, to see if anyone in there knows.



Posted by: bobolito

Quote:
Originally Posted by tenorsaw
T-Mobile customers won't access all the glory, especially the 3G.

It will be interesting to know if T-Mobile users will be able to roam on AT&T's 3G. If that's the case, then T-Mobile customers with "jailbroken" 3G iPhones could access all of its glory!

Of course, that will be only in areas where T-Mobile allows AT&T roaming.



Posted by: tenorsaw

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobolito
It will be interesting to know if T-Mobile users will be able to roam on AT&T's 3G. If that's the case, then T-Mobile customers with "jailbroken" 3G iPhones could access all of its glory!

Of course, that will be only in areas where T-Mobile allows AT&T roaming.


They would just have to make sure they stay in that area. Also, that's only if they are able to get an iPhone.

So, right now these are the three hurdles for T-Mobile customers as I see it:

How to get an iPhone
How to get it unlocked
How to get 3G access

Good luck!





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