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How much space will 2.0 apps take up and will there be a lot of 3G only apps?
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Posted by: player19

One of the determining factors for myself in getting the 8 gig or 16 gig would be the size of the 2.0 apps and how much space they would need to run. What does everything think? Think there will be 1 gig games? I could see something like a slingbox app taking up a lot of space for streaming....but might be wrong.

Also out of curiosity how many apps will require a 3G phone (i.e. slingbox app would be one)

thanks

Posted by: Cizan

Whoa 1 gig for a game... na I think thats too much. My educated guess would be that they are the same size as the apps on installer.

Posted by: melman101

I could probably see some games going up to 300 megs.

Mel

Posted by: grapes911

I can't imagine any apps requiring 3G.

Posted by: Saoirse1916

During the keynote Jobs mentioned that anything < 10MB would be accessible through 3G and anything > 10MB would be WiFi/USB only. Based on that, I'd assume (perhaps incorrectly but I doubt it) that there will be a reasonable amount of apps on either side of the 10MB line. So if that's the case, I wouldn't worry too much about apps taking up all of your space.

And I would agree that there wouldn't be any 3G-only apps -- I've got SlingPlayer on my current phone (Windows Mobile) and it works fine when it switches between CDMA (3G) and 1XRTT (EDGE)...that's the beauty of the Slingbox application in that it automatically scales video quality to match bandwidth and it does it very well.

Posted by: toomer

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Originally Posted by player19

Also out of curiosity how many apps will require a 3G phone (i.e. slingbox app would be one)

Why would a slingplayer require a 3G iPhone? I'd be able to use it just fine on WiFi. I could watch my home TiVo from an airport WiFi spot...

I can't imagine any applications requiring a 3G iPhone.

Posted by: XFF

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Originally Posted by toomer

The Tom Tom navigation app will probably require iPhone 3G, at least for real-time tracking and navigation.

Posted by: kaiso

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Originally Posted by toomer

Why would a slingplayer require a 3G iPhone?

Because some of us drive and watch the news at the same time to see what the traffic is like and Edge is too slow. I know, I know, unsafe driving and all.

Posted by: Phreakish

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Originally Posted by XFF

The Tom Tom navigation app will probably require iPhone 3G, at least for real-time tracking and navigation.

No reason for it to require any type of connection at all as a-gps is perfectly capable of communicating with satellites without the help of cell towers.
It does like them but it's not usually required.

Posted by: toomer

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Originally Posted by Phreakish

I think he's referring to pulling down map data.

That would be assuming, of course, that any 3rd party GPS app didn't let you pre-load them in advance (what I used to do with iGuidance on my WM devices). You wouldn't need 3G for traffic updates... it already works pretty well over EDGE on the existing maps app.

Posted by: XFF

No, I'm referring to A-GPS. What's the point of a navigation app like Tom Tom on the original iPhone without A-GPS?

Posted by: KDarling

1) TomTom's PDA app stores its map and other data on the device.

2) You don't need 3G for A-GPS.

3) You don't need A-GPS for TomTom, which is why it works in standalone PNDs or with external pucks.

A-GPS is most important for getting a fast first fix, like for instant gratification of a search request, or for E911. For use in a car, a half minute or so startup time is nothing.

(Yes, A-GPS could also help if you were deep in a city with tall buildings.)

Posted by: Phreakish

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Originally Posted by XFF

No, I'm referring to A-GPS. What's the point of a navigation app like Tom Tom on the original iPhone without A-GPS?

External and/or WiFi GPS dongles like Loco GPS for example are being released as we speak (BT ones have been around for almost a decade, as you know).

These will allow 2G iPhone users to enjoy GPS as well as any GPS related software that becomes available at the app store.

Posted by: toomer

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Originally Posted by XFF

No, I'm referring to A-GPS. What's the point of a navigation app like Tom Tom on the original iPhone without A-GPS?

I guess it's all in how literally you read the OP's question...

will there be a lot of 3G only apps?

I take that to mean 3G -- as in requiring the faster connection. But I guess 3G could also mean ... the 2nd gen hardware platform. Thus, "requiring" GPS.

Posted by: xgman

Isn't the GPS feature going to take up loads of space? 8GB is sounding pretty small. Probably worth the extra $100 to get 16GB.

Posted by: toomer

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Originally Posted by xgman

Isn't the GPS feature going to take up loads of space? 8GB is sounding pretty small. Probably worth the extra $100 to get 16GB.

How would it be taking up any more space, than it is today?

Steve showed the existing Maps application - but now with a more precise blue pulsating dot indicating your exact latitude/longitude ... instead of that large blue crosshair circle you get when you use the Locate Me feature today.

So how is a chip that feeds a stream of latitude/longitude pairs into the operating system taking up more space?

Posted by: importluva

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Originally Posted by toomer

Pretty sure he means the maps, which will take up between 1-2gb of storage...

Posted by: RogerPodacter

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Originally Posted by xgman

Isn't the GPS feature going to take up loads of space? 8GB is sounding pretty small. Probably worth the extra $100 to get 16GB.

it depends. on my phone i have garmin, and i only loaded the states i will use. soo the maps take up about 200 MB. if i loaded the entire USA, it would take up 1GB, which isnt bad i guess. but honestly will i ever go to north dakota? and if so, will i need GPS on my phone there? doubtful...i just loaded cali, NJ, PA and NYC.

Posted by: JerryNY

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Originally Posted by xgman

Isn't the GPS feature going to take up loads of space? 8GB is sounding pretty small. Probably worth the extra $100 to get 16GB.

I think there is some confusion here. The Google maps app, currently on the iPhone, which is going to work for the iPhone 3g's GPS relies on maps downloaded from Google on a need-it-now basis. There is no local storage of maps except for maybe the current general vicinity in cache. Something like Tom Tom, which may or may not become available on the App store, would use locally stored maps which might take up a gig or two of storage depending how much regional data you decide to put on.