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And now what we all feared, the BOLD IS DELAYED!
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Posted by: GregGebhardt

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008...ast-mid-august/

I hope August does not turn into September, October or November or even worst! By Christmas!

Yep the iPhone is going to fly!

Posted by: CarlGalgano

Oh well..... I guess we have to wait it out. I wonder if today will be the day for Rogers as has been previously rumored.

Posted by: robstu

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Originally Posted by CarlGalgano

Oh well..... I guess we have to wait it out. I wonder if today will be the day for Rogers as has been previously rumored.

Highly doubt that considering the first launch party isn't until July 8th.....

Posted by: retired4019

It's a funny thing though. When Steve Jobbs says he is going to release a phone, it's released. Although it's only the second Iphone and the Iphone 3g has not been released yet I'm willing to bet it's going to be released on time. Why do all the others play these games?

Posted by: DubDub

My guess is that ATT didn't want to rain on the Apple parade and release the new BB at the same time as the new iPhone. That way, they sell more iPhones now and probably more BBs later.

Posted by: tDAWG

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Originally Posted by DubDub

My guess is that ATT didn't want to rain on the Apple parade and release the new BB at the same time as the new iPhone. That way, they sell more iPhones now and probably more BBs later.

thats how i feel.... same thought

Posted by: retired4019

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Originally Posted by DubDub

My guess is that ATT didn't want to rain on the Apple parade and release the new BB at the same time as the new iPhone. That way, they sell more iPhones now and probably more BBs later.

If thats their plan I hope it backfires right up their ***

Posted by: OffTheHorseCEO

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Yeah. Do they ever stop to think a lot of people don't even WANT the iphone. Even if its the only device available and will wait. Also. Do they not consider some do not even want the bold, even if it was the only thing out...

Posted by: payroll

Man I am trying to get this thing before I head down to school and this is cutting it pretty close to that date. But I guess it being delayed is better than having it overheat in my pocket.

Posted by: Slumber Pass

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Or explode anywhere in the general crotch region!

Posted by: nfl46

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Originally Posted by retired4019

If thats their plan I hope it backfires right up their ***

Lol, why would it? Everyone knows the iPhone is going to sale a lot! Just wait until the week of the release, it's going to be all over the news, ONCE AGAIN. Lines will be wrapped around stores, as usual. Lol. It's an iPhone; of course it's going to sale!

Posted by: nfl46

And another thing, Apple is not the one to blame, if anyone is planning on doing so; blame RIM, they are the one's, unlike Apple who set a "set" day for their release. smh. I strongly dislike the fact that RIM is so inconsistent. All we ask for, as Blackberry owners, is for a "set" day, when they'll for sure release it. Rim cannot even give us that!

Posted by: rugby

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Originally Posted by DubDub

My guess is that ATT didn't want to rain on the Apple parade and release the new BB at the same time as the new iPhone. That way, they sell more iPhones now and probably more BBs later.

Interesting speculation, however since you don't know for sure that's all it is.

Posted by: briareus

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Originally Posted by GregGebhardt

And now what we all feared, the BOLD IS DELAYED!

Or expected, if you've been through at least one prior device release.

Not surprising if you're relying on speculation and rumors for a release date.

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Originally Posted by retired4019

It's a funny thing though. When Steve Jobbs says he is going to release a phone, it's released. Although it's only the second Iphone and the Iphone 3g has not been released yet I'm willing to bet it's going to be released on time. Why do all the others play these games?

RIM doesn't announce release dates which is why they say "summer".

It's up to each carrier (RIM's entire business model -- devices, OS's, support, etc -- is like this) since RIM doesn't choose which carrier gets which model. It's the other way around. In any case, I have yet to see a carrier release date for the Bold. Only rumors and speculation from the usual suspects. Until at&t, Rogers or whoever makes an official announcement you're all counting on dates that are completely meaningless. Every prior BB release has been like this so I really don't understand why everyone would expect otherwise.

Comparing BB release dates to iPhone release dates is pointless since Apple currently only has one carrier (and apparently by the balls no less).

Posted by: GregGebhardt

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Originally Posted by retired4019

All I can say is RIM has never announced the official release date.

RIM never gave us a date and has not let us down.

Posted by: GregGebhardt

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Originally Posted by nfl46

And another thing, Apple is not the one to blame, if anyone is planning on doing so; blame RIM, they are the one's, unlike Apple who set a "set" day for their release. smh. I strongly dislike the fact that RIM is so inconsistent. All we ask for, as Blackberry owners, is for a "set" day, when they'll for sure release it. Rim cannot even give us that!

You show me where RIM ever told anyone a date!

You people are getting Boy Genious and RIM confused.

RIM NEVER posted any date of release for the Bold except the word SUMMER

Posted by: CarlGalgano

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Originally Posted by nfl46

I say the device isnt ready. ATT may have a US exclusive, but they dont have a worldwide exclusive. If this device was ready for shipment, they carriers all over the world would be selling it already. I dont think ATT is powerful enough of a customer for RIM for ATT to be able to tell RIM how they will release the device around the world. I think its more coincidence that it coincides with the iPhone release.

Posted by: CarlGalgano

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Originally Posted by GregGebhardt

All I can say is RIM has never announced the official release date.

RIM never gave us a date and has not let us down.

I totally agree. Manufacturers are between a rock and a hard place. Announce a release date, if something goes wrong and you dont make it, you get crucified for missing the date. If you stick to the date and you release a less than ready product, you get hammered for shipping a buggy product. If you announce no release dates at all, people piss and moan because they think the mfg doesnt care about setting the expectations of their customers.

Sure Steve Jobs set a date and made it, however, he also released a snazzy device that was half finished. I am sure RIM can do the same. I'd rather wait and have them get it right.

Posted by: JerryNY

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Originally Posted by GregGebhardt

Yep the iPhone is going to fly!

The iPhone 3g is going to sell boatloads but it doesn't have anything to do with when the Bold is released. I am not sure I buy into the conspiracy theories that AT&T is purposely holding back the Bold to help the iPhone. Why should they? There are a significant number of BB users that are dying for the Bold and would never get an iPhone anyway. Both phones require expensive contracts and I would bet Apple is charging them more for the iPhone 3g than RIM is charging them for the Bold so from a monetary standpoint AT&T will not make more money from Apple. Sales in the Apple owned stores means they probably make less retail overall as well. AT&T is probably MUCH more interested in getting current iPhone users to upgrade to the 3g to kill off those revenue sharing contracts they have to give Apple.

If it is an intentional strategy to release the Bold when the iPhone 3g furor dies down a little would you blame them anyway? Movie studios routinely hold back releases of what they consider good movies instead of releasing them the same weekends as known blockbusters. Every marketing dollar AT&T and RIM spend during the public relations frenzy that is going to be the iPhone 3g launch is going to be less effective than if they use that money later on when it dies down. Apple is going to be in every newspaper, magazine and news broadcast getting free publicity like only Apple knows how. Unfair or not it is an advantage nonetheless. Why fight it when you can wait it out a little while? That said it should be interesting to see what the Canadian release is going to be like.

Posted by: Dtwitch19

If ATT were smart, they would release iPhone 2.0 and Bold on same day. People would flock to the stores to compare the two, and buy the one they liked. I am waiting for Bold regardless of what iPhone does, as I'm sure most BB are doing. The ones that want the iPhone will get it when it comes out, so it doesn't make sense for ATT to hold back Bold.

Or ATT could be praying on the 'latest and greatest" junkies to buy iPhone in July and Bold in August forking out close to $1000 in the process.

Posted by: demonx

Hopefully some unlocked versions show up soon, I'm in contract anyways so does not matter to me if AT&T ever gets it or not.

Posted by: MicroT86

Does anyone know how AT&T's exclusivity works? If they delay their release of the Bold, does that mean their exclusivity period starts when they release it? I have a feeling I won't have a T-Mobile Bold until 2009

Posted by: CarlGalgano

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Originally Posted by JerryNY

Jerry, lots of good points, but your movie analogy is not the best to use, because many people will see BOTH movies, but not too many will own both phones. However, I do totally agree, especially for early adopters, which will probably include many of the Bold AND iPhone sales, minds are already made up as to what device to buy. I dont think there are many out there waiting for which ever is released first, the demographic markets are still too different for each, but they are beginning to overlap.

Posted by: Bigbmc26

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Originally Posted by retired4019

That's because AT&T does twice as much testing on the iphone than any other product. It's easy to make a date when more time is spent on one device than another.

Posted by: Sovak75

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Originally Posted by JerryNY

If it is an intentional strategy to release the Bold when the iPhone 3g furor dies down a little would you blame them anyway? Movie studios routinely hold back releases of what they consider good movies instead of releasing them the same weekends as known blockbusters. Every marketing dollar AT&T and RIM spend during the public relations frenzy that is going to be the iPhone 3g launch is going to be less effective than if they use that money later on when it dies down. Apple is going to be in every newspaper, magazine and news broadcast getting free publicity like only Apple knows how. Unfair or not it is an advantage nonetheless. Why fight it when you can wait it out a little while? That said it should be interesting to see what the Canadian release is going to be like.

exactly my thinking