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cant reviece calls when suring on edge??

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Posted by: Phat^Trance

wtf, am i doing something wrong or doesnt iphone support calls when surfing on edge???

when im surfing (egde) the calls is transfered to my voicemail.
plz tell me that there is a setting for this error!

oh forget to mention that there isnt a 3g network were i use the phone at most.


Posted by: payroll

Voice and EDGE will not work together. Anytime you are using EDGE you will not get voice calls, anytime your on voice calls you can't use EDGE.

I believe this doesn't happen with 3G though.


Posted by: Phat^Trance

haha are you serious??? all other phones drops the data and takes the call. but not the iphone, hahaha i dont know if i should laugh or cry :P


Posted by: AlphaFox

that is dumb, it should just tell you there is a call reguardless of what you are doing. when your on the call and try to surf it should say that it cant as your on a call. thats how my other phone worked.


Posted by: misha24

The technology doesn't allow it so its not "dumb". For 3G you can do both voice and data so once you are on 3G you can do it but once you are not then ofcourse you cannot.

Mike


Posted by: BethanyBoo

I believe this is an EDGE issue and not specific to the iPhone.


Posted by: brettatk

It has nothing to do with the iPhone. BethanyBoo is correct, this is the same for all phones using Edge on the AT&T network. It shouldnt have been a surprise that this is happening.


Posted by: breaksraver13

Quote:
Originally Posted by brettatk
It has nothing to do with the iPhone. BethanyBoo is correct, this is the same for all phones using Edge on the AT&T network. It shouldnt have been a surprise that this is happening.

It has EVERTHING to do with the iPhone......while surfing with my N95 if I get a call the Internet pauses and I can answer the call, when done with the call I can go back to surfing.


Posted by: brettatk

Quote:
Originally Posted by breaksraver13
It has EVERTHING to do with the iPhone......while surfing with my N95 if I get a call the Internet pauses and I can answer the call, when done with the call I can go back to surfing.


I'm sorry, but I never saw the N95 offered in the U.S. for AT&T. I'll rephrase my statement. This is how it works on every 3G phone that AT&T sells.


Posted by: mush10

Quote:
I'm sorry, but I never saw the N95 offered in the U.S. for AT&T. I'll rephrase my statement. This is how it works on every 3G phone that AT&T sells.


Not true at all. The data session should pause and you should be able to take your call or decline.


Posted by: toomer

It is a combination of both.

The phone must be capable of receiving a signal that an incoming call needs to supersede active data. I've never found credible documentation one way or the other on what the iPhone can do in this regard.

The network, also needs to send that signal. I believe the distinction is a NOM-1 network, and NOM-2 network. If you google around for NOM-1 and NOM-2 and iPhone, you'll see a lot of discussion on this from last year.

This was known about the iPhone over a year ago...

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=740


Posted by: brettatk

Now that it was brought up, I was indeed wrong. I remember reading about what toomer was talking about (NOM-1, etc). It depends on the cell tower and what kind of signal it is sending out. There are certain areas where it will do what the OP wants it to but those right now are few and far between. Perhaps we'll see more in the future from AT&T.


Posted by: mush10

I can't speak for the iPhone, but every 3G phone I have had was able to take phone calls when I was using EDGE data.


Posted by: XFF

Why would a 3G phone use EDGE data? I think you're confusing something here. If you're connected to a 3G (UMTS) network, voice and data use the same carrier, so both services are available simultaneously. You don't even have to pause the data session, you can keep browsing during a phone call.

If you're using EDGE data however, it's a totally different story. EDGE data uses its own carrier, separate from the GSM voice carrier. A Class B mobile can only connect to one service at a time. Therefore, while connected to EDGE a Class B mobile cannot be connected to GSM, and therefore won't be able to monitor the paging channel for incoming calls.

Now it is possible to implement a signaling interface (called the Gs interface) network side that will alert the mobile of an incoming call via the EDGE carrier, so it can offer the user to interrupt the data session and switch to the GSM carrier to accept the incoming call. This is called NMO-1 (network mode of operation 1). Unfortunately, most of AT&T's network uses NMO-2, which does not implement the Gs interface, hence no such notification is ever sent to the mobile, hence the mobile has absolutely no idea of any incoming voice calls while connected to an EDGE carrier. There's nothing wrong with the iPhone in this regard, it's simply how the network is designed and how the technology works.


Posted by: mush10

When you are not in a 3G area.


Posted by: hope4jsl

I live in an Edge only area. I have been using the 3G capable Motorola Q9h. It could take calls while I was surfing the net or whatever. The new iPhone won't let me......


Posted by: jjj23

This is an iphone issue, don't blame EDGE. I've used a BB Pearl and a Curve on T-Mobile, and a Curve on AT&T's network, all at the same location, and all three interupted downloading webpages to receive a phone call.

I remember having a regular phone with a crappy browser which would send calls straight to voicemail when using the browser. Being able to receive calls when using data on a smartphone is what separates(among other things) a smart phone from regular phones.

EDIT: I currently use an iPhone which sends calls to voicemail when downloading webpages, in the same location as my previous Blackberries, so it's not the location, and it's not the carrier's network, it's definitely the iphone.


Posted by: mush10

Quote:
Originally Posted by XFF
Why would a 3G phone use EDGE data? I think you're confusing something here. If you're connected to a 3G (UMTS) network, voice and data use the same carrier, so both services are available simultaneously. You don't even have to pause the data session, you can keep browsing during a phone call.

If you're using EDGE data however, it's a totally different story. EDGE data uses its own carrier, separate from the GSM voice carrier. A Class B mobile can only connect to one service at a time. Therefore, while connected to EDGE a Class B mobile cannot be connected to GSM, and therefore won't be able to monitor the paging channel for incoming calls.

Now it is possible to implement a signaling interface (called the Gs interface) network side that will alert the mobile of an incoming call via the EDGE carrier, so it can offer the user to interrupt the data session and switch to the GSM carrier to accept the incoming call. This is called NMO-1 (network mode of operation 1). Unfortunately, most of AT&T's network uses NMO-2, which does not implement the Gs interface, hence no such notification is ever sent to the mobile, hence the mobile has absolutely no idea of any incoming voice calls while connected to an EDGE carrier. There's nothing wrong with the iPhone in this regard, it's simply how the network is designed and how the technology works.


Based on this, you are saying even EDGE only phones would be effected by this, and that is simply not the case. I currently use a BB 8310 and am able to receive calls while surfing. In fact, I cannot think of one at&t phone (EDGE of WCDMA), where this has not been the case.




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