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BELLUS HSPA imminent?
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Posted by: JustinCredible

http://www.electronista.com/article...s.may.use.hspa/

Posted by: EricMammoth

...Not that soon? Next week is awfully sudden.

Posted by: w4lker

This has been talked to death on the TELUS, Bell, and Rogers forums... yes they're switching, yes you'll be able to buy 3G "GSM-variant" aka HSPA phones from TELUS and Bell in 2009. The same type of 3G phones that Rogers sells (i.e. iPhone, Nokia, Sony Ericsson, etc.) will work fine and be available on TELUS and Bell.

Hooray!

PS No, it's not technically "GSM" since GSM is 2G. It's the 3G evolution of GSM...

Posted by: blackdogs377

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Originally Posted by w4lker

This has been talked to death on the TELUS, Bell, and Rogers forums... yes they're switching, yes you'll be able to buy 3G "GSM-variant" aka HSPA phones from TELUS and Bell in 2009. The same type of 3G phones that Rogers sells (i.e. iPhone, Nokia, Sony Ericsson, etc.) will work fine and be available on TELUS and Bell.

Hooray!

PS No, it's not technically "GSM" since GSM is 2G. It's the 3G evolution of GSM...

some people like it simple

gsm = simcards
cdma = no simcards

dont make it more complicated. bell and telus are going GSM.

Posted by: w4lker

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Originally Posted by blackdogs377

some people like it simple

gsm = simcards
cdma = no simcards

dont make it more complicated. bell and telus are going GSM.

The next generation of CDMA uses the equivalent to SIM cards.

So does iDen right now.

And so will LTE!

But yes, as far as what most people "think of" as "GSM", TELUS and Bell are rolling out a "GSM" network. You just can't post that without a whole bunch of qualifications, because the more technical people will come out of the woodwork and point out how you are technically wrong and confuse everyone even further.

It's like pointing out that "Windows Mobile 6" is actually Windows Mobile 5.2, given a whole new version designation for marketing purposes. The real Windows Mobile 6 won't ship until 2009/2010, but if you say that you confuse more people than you inform!

Posted by: Deckster

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Originally Posted by w4lker

But yes, as far as what most people "think of" as "GSM", TELUS and Bell are rolling out a "GSM" network. You just can't post that without a whole bunch of qualifications, because the more technical people will come out of the woodwork and point out how you are technically wrong and confuse everyone even further.

Like by pointing out that GSM is a set of standards, and CDMA is a technology.

Most people who think GSM are thinking about a TDMA system, when Bell and Telus will be, if the rumours are true, launching a W-CDMA network.

Posted by: VE9LRN

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Originally Posted by w4lker

The next generation of CDMA uses the equivalent to SIM cards.

So does iDen right now.

And so will LTE!

But yes, as far as what most people "think of" as "GSM", TELUS and Bell are rolling out a "GSM" network. You just can't post that without a whole bunch of qualifications, because the more technical people will come out of the woodwork and point out how you are technically wrong and confuse everyone even further.

It's like pointing out that "Windows Mobile 6" is actually Windows Mobile 5.2, given a whole new version designation for marketing purposes. Windows Mobile 6 won't ship until 2009/2010, but if you say that you confuse more people than you inform!

Speaking of confusing, I think you mean WM 7, for late 2009...

Posted by: w4lker

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Originally Posted by VE9LRN

Speaking of confusing, I think you mean WM 7, for late 2009...

I mean WM6, which will be *branded* WM7 for marketing reasons. (The product branded WM6 is actually just WM5.2) But that's a subject for a different thread!

Posted by: blackdogs377

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Originally Posted by w4lker

I mean WM6, which will be *branded* WM7 for marketing reasons. (The product branded WM6 is actually just WM5.2) But that's a subject for a different thread!

make a thread. this sounds really interesting.

Posted by: criminalogic

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Why does bell allready say tha instinct is on tha largest and fastest 3G network in northamerica? and tha lg muziq has a 3G status icon? my chick gets it but its slower then EVDO and wen i get 1x..?

Posted by: d.dan

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Originally Posted by w4lker

It's like pointing out that "Windows Mobile 6" is actually Windows Mobile 5.2, given a whole new version designation for marketing purposes. The real Windows Mobile 6 won't ship until 2009/2010, but if you say that you confuse more people than you inform!

yes, but the "real" WM6 is going to be called WM7 which might launch by the end of the year.
so technically they skipped the WM6.

Posted by: kav2001c

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Originally Posted by criminalogic

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Why does bell allready say tha instinct is on tha largest and fastest 3G network in northamerica? and tha lg muziq has a 3G status icon? my chick gets it but its slower then EVDO and wen i get 1x..?

Belus has a much larger high speed footprint than Rogers does (especially in the EVDO vs HSDPA)

3G has been out for ages, even 1xRTT is considered 3G

Posted by: VE9LRN

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Originally Posted by kav2001c

Belus has a much larger high speed footprint than Rogers does (especially in the EVDO vs HSDPA)
...

They also have a much larger footprint, period! The coverage of Bell in the Maritimes is SEVERAL TIMES better than Rogers. Out west and up north the situation is almost the same. If Bell & Telus keep the roaming agreement they have now with the next generation of hardware, Rogers is in a pickle!