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Bell and 3G
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Posted by: Suds2006

If bell is running 3G can I pick it up with my Blackberry 8830? I only see 3 settings. evdo, 1x and global.

Posted by: *Bluex*

EVDO is a 3G cellular technology. That's the only one Bell currently offers to the public.

Posted by: kav2001c

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Originally Posted by *Bluex*

EVDO is a 3G cellular technology. That's the only one Bell currently offers to the public.

1xRTT is also 3G and is also offered (eg the LG Rumour is a 3G device & has no EVDO support)

Posted by: jase88

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8830/4.5.0.127 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/109)

OP: I am assuming that you're referring to HSPA, and not EVDO.

The answer is no. The 8830 is not an HSPA-capable device.

Posted by: CQD-dude

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Originally Posted by kav2001c

1xRTT is also 3G and is also offered (eg the LG Rumour is a 3G device & has no EVDO support)

CDMA2000 1xRTT is considered 2.5G while CDMA2000 EVDO is genuine 3G.

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Originally Posted by jase88

OP: I am assuming that you're referring to HSPA, and not EVDO.
The answer is no. The 8830 is not an HSPA-capable device.

The Storm is compatible HSPA however.

Posted by: Inclemental

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Originally Posted by CQD-dude

The Storm is compatible HSPA however.

but it runs on 900/2100mhz, not 850/1900mhz. so u still can't use it in canada

Posted by: Roscopcoletrain

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Originally Posted by Inclemental

but it runs on 900/2100mhz, not 850/1900mhz. so u still can't use it in canada

Network Support: Dual-band: 800/1900 MHz CDMA/EVDO Rev A networks, Quad-band: 850/900/1800/1900MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE networks, Single-band: 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA networks

Posted by: kav2001c

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Originally Posted by CQD-dude

CDMA2000 1xRTT is considered 2.5G while CDMA2000 EVDO is genuine 3G.

2.5G is not even industry standerd (it is internet slang)
There is no such thing (try to find one single link to it)

1xRTT is full 3G (albeit alot slower 3G)
Like I said in first post, check the back of an LG Rumour (you must have 1 in your collection of phones)

http://www.cdg.org/technology/3g/ad...es_cdma2000.asp

Posted by: MacD

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Originally Posted by kav2001c

2.5G is not even industry standerd (it is internet slang)
There is no such thing (try to find one single link to it)

Challenge accepted!

http://www.qualcomm.com/news/PDF/3G_Wirless_Terms.pdf

Page 4

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Originally Posted by kav2001c

1xRTT is full 3G (albeit alot slower 3G)

Page 11

Posted by: kav2001c

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Originally Posted by MacD

Challenge accepted!

http://www.qualcomm.com/news/PDF/3G_Wirless_Terms.pdf

Page 4

Page 11

Hehe I dont think you read that document very closely as page 4 & 11 dont even mention 3G (I assume you counted wrong & meant page 3 & 10 however)

Anyhow from the actual document you linked:

Page 9:
1xRTT is a 3G technology that is commercially available today

So um I still win

Page 10 (11) is just discussing EVDO so I am unsure why you linked that

Page 3 (4) clearly says under the 3G heading "any technology that provides a minimum 144kbps" which 1X easily does

And neither of these pages changes the fact that 2.5G is not a real technology (quite to the contrary, on the very page you linked 3 (4) states: "more advanced than 2G not as advanced as 3G"
Which is exactly what I said the term was; slang.
There is no industry standerd for "2.5G"
It is just a term to describe a non-industry stepping stone before final papers were standerdized

This is why you wont see any phones ever branded as "2.5G" eiher

Posted by: fnakfhe

So just to recap,

3G is internet on cellphone which can go faster than or > 144kbps ?

Posted by: kav2001c

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Originally Posted by fnakfhe

So just to recap,

3G is internet on cellphone which can go faster than or > 144kbps ?

Essentially just change the word to data (as it can be any communication, not just mobile browser)

If you read the papers there are many hundred more little details but most would mean nothing to a normal non tech geek

Posted by: MacD

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Originally Posted by kav2001c

Not sure how it shows up in your pdf reader, but page 4 for me is where the terminology starts. (Actually, you may be looking at the page number on the scanned document, where as im looking at the page number in Adobe (Page 4 of 44)

Reason for page 4 is to show that 2.5G is not simply "Internet slang" You may not see it on the back of any devices, but it's not simply slang made up on blogs and forums.

Reason for page 11 (page 11 of 44 in adobe reader. Page 9 of the scanned document.) was to indicate that you were right about 1XRTT being 3G.

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Commonly referred to as 1X or sometimes as 1XRTT, CDMA2000 1X
is a 3G technology that is commercially available today