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Posted by: ehipolito

How can you email through SMS on a p800? My 6610 had a send email feature when texting. I currently have cingular service and emails use to be sent and received with the address 805xxxxxxx@mobile.mycingular.com. Also, I do not have wireless internet on my 6610 or on my p800 yet

Ed



Posted by: ottoisblotto

I was about to ask this too, you beat me to it



Posted by: Genghis Khent

Quote:
Originally posted by ehipolito
How can you email through SMS on a p800? My 6610 had a send email feature when texting. I currently have cingular service and emails use to be sent and received with the address 805xxxxxxx@mobile.mycingular.com. Ed


FWIW, as a T-Mobile customer, I get email of sorts via SMS (and sometimes MMS) through 818xxxxxxx@tmomail.net. Hope this helps.



Posted by: random_shots

for number . put in 121

then before you write your text message . type in the email address . a space . and compose .


example:
john@aol.com I am bored

and there you have it . Email through SMS . This is for Cingular users



Posted by: Rk.

no easier ways? this would require me to memorize the e-mail address before i compose the message. cingular needs to get the sms to email feature a little more advanced.



Posted by: LarryH

Quote:
Originally posted by Genghis Khent
FWIW, as a T-Mobile customer, I get email of sorts via SMS (and sometimes MMS) through 818xxxxxxx@tmomail.net. Hope this helps.


But can you SEND email via the SMS function on the P800? I don't think you can. At least, I haven't discovered a way.

For me, it's a non-issue since I can send email via Internet (GPRS or CID.)

But I haven't found a way for those who don't have Internet setup on their P800's to send an SMS as an email.

Out of curiousity, like the above posters, other than the method mentioned, I wonder why or if the P800 software allows this.

P.S. (to RK) I don't believe that this is a CINGULAR issue, but a P800 one.



Posted by: Rk.

i havent recieved my p800 yet but i've come to think its a provider issue. tmobile lets you send sms to email through sms with no problems. maybe because they have those pop messages, but cingular is real funny. sometimes sms to email will work and sometimes it wont. but i wont know until i asked someone why they didnt reply to my message and they tell me they never recieved it.



Posted by: LarryH

Email to and from my P800 (on Cingular) works just fine using the @mobile.mycingular.com format.

The "problem" appears to be that the SMS form used by the P800 doesn't support the direct entry of the @xxxx.xxx format. Seems you can only enter a phone number.

If you use the method that random_shots suggested, you can send and receive email to your heart's content, via SMS.

No T-mobile customers on this thread have claimed that they are able to SEND email messages via SMS without using the 121 method.

All the above, AFAICS.



Posted by: Rk.

Quote:
Originally posted by LarryH
No T-mobile customers on this thread have claimed that they are able to SEND email messages via SMS without using the 121 method.

All the above, AFAICS.


i have NEVER heard of a tmobile user who used 121 and i know many.



Posted by: LarryH

And of these "many," they're all sending email via SMS on P800's? Please let us know how.



Posted by: Rk.

Quote:
Originally posted by LarryH
And of these "many," they're all sending email via SMS on P800's? Please let us know how.


as i previously stated i dont have my p800 yet(monday hopefully). but i was talking about cingular sms to email in general. read up a few posts when the 121 suggestion was made then connect all my replies.



Posted by: LarryH

Okay, I'll speak slowly. To the best I can see, when you enter the SMS "section" of the P800 -- the P800 will NOT allow you to enter an email address. REGARDLESS of carrier. Unless I'm mistaken, the form will NOT accept an @ sign whatsoever.

So it wouldn't make a difference if you were on Cingular, TMobile, ATTWS or LSD -- unless I'm missing something, all you are permitted to enter on the P800's SMS form is a PHONE NUMBER.

As the original poster commented -- he had no problem with Cingular SMS email -- he had the problem on the P800. His other phone allowed an email via SMS. This phone seems not to.

The 121 method is a "workaround." Whether or not that workaround will work for providers OTHER than Cingular, I can't say -- I only have Cingular. But when your P800 arrives, if you can find a way to send an email using the P800's SMS form, please let me know. My guess is -- you won't be able to do it since my firmware is the latest and, unless SE changed something, it's a no go.

As for the reliability of Cingular's email. Another matter. I've had no problems with it and, if I did, it wouldn't be phone related.

Hope someone else jumps in on this in case I'm missing something. Two posters suggest that I'm not.



Posted by: Rk.

Quote:
Originally posted by LarryH
Hope someone else jumps in on this in case I'm missing something. Two posters suggest that I'm not.


it seems like you just woke up today and wanted to be right in a forum. no-one said you were wrong, but you are correcting me on something i wasnt trying to answer. excuse my french but **** the p800. i was talkin about cingulars SMS to EMAIL. for the 3rd or 4th time, i do not have my p800 anymore. i commented on how i think cingulars 121 "workaround" is a problem for people who dont remember everyones e-mail address and some devices dont have multitasking. you're right, you win, you're the man or any other praise you wanted. YOU GOT IT!

i wont be back in the thread, so no need to reply. i'm going to flush my head down the

once again . YOU ARE THE MAN!



Posted by: LarryH

I RULE!



Posted by: jpjolo

Quote:
Originally posted by LarryH
Okay, I'll speak slowly. To the best I can see, when you enter the SMS "section" of the P800 -- the P800 will NOT allow you to enter an email address. REGARDLESS of carrier. Unless I'm mistaken, the form will NOT accept an @ sign whatsoever.

So it wouldn't make a difference if you were on Cingular, TMobile, ATTWS or LSD -- unless I'm missing something, all you are permitted to enter on the P800's SMS form is a PHONE NUMBER.


That is correct, but you can send email via sms. The phone number in question would be your provider's sms to email "gateway".... on T-Mobile, you would enter 500 as the phone number, on Cingular, you use 121. This number is carrier dependent. If you are not a T-Mobile or Cingular customer, you have to call your customer service rep to find out what the number is.

Quote:
As the original poster commented -- he had no problem with Cingular SMS email -- he had the problem on the P800. His other phone allowed an email via SMS. This phone seems not to.


I just tried it on my p800. The sms message format (at least with what I tried) was xxxxxx@yyyyy.com / Subject / Message text. Phone number was 500 as I mentioned above.


Quote:
The 121 method is a "workaround." Whether or not that workaround will work for providers OTHER than Cingular, I can't say -- I only have Cingular. But when your P800 arrives, if you can find a way to send an email using the P800's SMS form, please let me know. My guess is -- you won't be able to do it since my firmware is the latest and, unless SE changed something, it's a no go.


SMS to Email was a feature provided by GSM carriers before email was available on handsets, not a work-around. Now that you have email on the P800, it would be cumbersome to use SMS isn't it? However I do try it out from time to time if I have nothing better to do. This method however requires that you remember the email address, or at least have it in your phone book so you can cut and paste it to the sms message - As I said, cumbersome.


Quote:
Hope someone else jumps in on this in case I'm missing something. Two posters suggest that I'm not.




Posted by: ill trooper

Quote:
Originally posted by jpjolo
SMS to Email was a feature provided by GSM carriers before email was available on handsets, not a work-around. Now that you have email on the P800, it would be cumbersome to use SMS isn't it?


I disagree - it is weak that this feature is now AWOL on the p800. GPRS networks are finicky compared to the ol' reliable standard. SMS works, the e-mail/MMS doesn't work as smoothly or quickly for quick messages.
For example, today I needed to reach someone on their Blackberry via their e-mail address, and while I used to be able to contact them via SMS, now I need to compose an MMS and log on the the GPRS (which is not as easy as getting a straight-up mobile-phone carrier signal... So eventually the signal came on after two attempts, and the message sent. But the reply came through and to read it I had to get the message back through MMS, and again, I couldn't log on right away!

So what used to be quick via my Motorola 2-way or my old mobile phone now becomes an ordeal unless I'm dealing with other mobile phone users - the P800 will not let you specify an e-mail address as an SMS target from the 'write message' screen. The workaround is not acceptable for an item this professional.
I love this p800 but this is a problem for me. You have phone-to-phone SMS, or e-mail. But the super-cool and flexible middle-ground is now missing...



Posted by: jpjolo

SMS to email format is as follows

When it asks for a phone number - enter your carrier's SMS to EMAIL gateway number, for TMobile it's 500, Cingular it's 121. For the others I don't know, maybe other guys in this forum could post it.

Quote:
The text message must be in this format:

email@anywhere.com / subject / message text.


It works as I use it on my P800. I have my contact's email address in my phone book and all I have to do is cut and paste into the SMS "write message" screen. Tedious but if you need to do it - it can be done. I do use it especially if I don't have GPRS reception.

Again, to all you guys new to the GSM world, email via SMS looks primitive because it is.

Now as for the performance of the carrier's SMS to EMAIL gateway is concerned, or the MMS response time, or the GPRS reception, that's another story...

All I can say is in this world of technological advances where we grow by leaps and bounds, some still lag behind as in the SMS feature, but I don't think they have any plans on improving SMS as I think they're moving on with a replacement for it which was EMS (SMS but with longer message) and now MMS. Then there's email capable phones with internet connection.



Posted by: ill trooper

...it's the p800 that implements it differently. If it could simply allow you to target an e-mail address from the address book, all would be well. Seems that the moment MMS became available on my phones (this is my 4th GSM phone) the feature quietly vanished. But thanks for the workaround technique.

Maybe in a software revision? Doubtful but who knows...



Posted by: ill trooper

I just re-read my last post and I want to emphasize that I am being sincere in thanking you for the workaround -sometimes these posts can sound like smart-@** replies - I will use that next time I need the SMS->E-Mail connect...



Posted by: Tux88

Anyone have a hack around for how to do this in teh Roger AT&T network for canada?

I know that you can even tho Roger tech support says that you can't. My old V101 from motorola was a GSM/non-GPRS phone and it had a built in option to e-mail someone through your phone. You just typed in the e-mail and hit send and it would send through the network and appear in your e-mail in box as <you 10 digit #>@pcs.rogers.com.

Anyone know the gateway number and format?





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