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Posted by: ff2fan

Why must we wait for new phones? Telus has the oldest lineup of phones of any provider in Canada. It's been like 8 or so months since we've had a new phone (Thats not the Ruby) They should take Fido's idea of one new phone a month. I have a feeling though that when they do come out, there is going to be a blitzkrieg of new handsets and a struggle to sell the old ones off. Any comments?



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

It depends on what's out there on the market. Right now, there's really not that much to choose from being introduced by our friends at LG, Samsung, Audiovox, Motorola, and definately not Sony Ericsson or Nokia.

I would expect to see Mike's Condor lineup slowly get phased into Falcon handsets beginning around September. We should see some very nice units with new UI's and form factors.

As for PCS, I think you're looking at the same timeframe, maybe a little bit later, for the introduction of integrated camera phones (probably launch of 2 in quick succession), although these will be expensive units that will probably be picked up first by professionals/trades with a business applications for the integrated device ... with some success in youth/early adopter market. I haven't heard anything about any non-camera units, not sure what is out there on the table for TELUS to consider (other than the illusive Motorola T720/731, but I don't see them picking up this handset).

We may have an old handset lineup right now, but it's still a good lineup. For us, these handsets are still outperforming the rest: i90c, i55sr, TM520, A540, v.60ci... and yes, we're selling lots of A220/Ruby's.

I would estimate the introduction of 5-6 new handsets, Mike and PCS combined, between September and December.... just like last year.



Posted by: akovach

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
Telus has the oldest lineup of phones of any provider in Canada. It's been like 8 or so months since we've had a new phone (Thats not the Ruby) They should take Fido's idea of one new phone a month.


Well... I actually prefer Telus' phones to Bell's lineup (with the exception of the A500). I am also awaiting new phones (which should be on their way by Christmas if not by the end of the summer) but mine's okay for now so there's no emergency for me.

I'll have to say that if their plan is to release a multitude of phones all at once I can't see that as being a good idea. They do have a pretty decent and well-rounded selection however, both in terms of features and prices.

Fido has been offering newer handsets at a faster rate and of course I'd prefer that from Telus, but for now I'll just have to sit on my arse and wait for Telus to move theirs.



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

If they're taking their time, they're doing it for a reason.

They didn't launch SMS for ages, but they did it for a reason (inter-carrier = more functionality, better user experience, faster take-rate).

They didn't launch downloads for ages, but they did it for a reason (high-quality/polyphonic).

They didn't launch camera phones yet, but they're doing it for a reason (integrated not accessory/attachable).

Patience, my friends. You may have to wait, but when it comes time, as usual, you will be very pleased (: The future is friendly, so rest assured that at some point, the future will arrive.



Posted by: Xirc

*coughMMS*



Posted by: JunLok

Quote:
Originally posted by Xirc
*coughMMS*


I had a bad day Xirc, why do you have to play us like that???????



Posted by: Xirc

Quote:
Originally posted by JunLok
I had a bad day Xirc, why do you have to play us like that???????


Well don't get too excited. Its not going to happen right away, but MMS has played a role in some recent handset release decisions.



Posted by: ff2fan

I suppose but you have to admit it's annoying not having anything new to choose from, especially when your LG looses most of it's RF capabilities (It's really pissing me off) It would be nice to see something new but it's good that they take time to insure the quality of the item. Too bad they didn't do that to my LG. But I'm not bitter.



Posted by: HC - NO "i"

ff2fan,

"Phones can be held up in carrier tests for up to nine months, or indefinitely, so anything that cuts that time down is to the maker's benefit." - Kevin Burden, an analyst with research firm IDC.

And, this statement is accurate.



Posted by: ff2fan

That's a long time. I guess I'll have to wait until the camera phones are announced. I'm still bummed about the Sanyo 5300 though.



Posted by: akovach

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
I'm still bummed about the Sanyo 5300 though.


Why? I missed something obviously



Posted by: ff2fan

Apparently, they scrapped it. That's what I heard anyway. Anybody know anything further?



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

I personally won't miss having any Sanyo handsets; Sanyo has absolutely ZERO channel support to offer.



Posted by: HC - NO "i"

Actually, the camera phones from Audiovox and LG are even better! Stay tuned...



Posted by: ff2fan

Can't wait



Posted by: Yodums

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
I suppose but you have to admit it's annoying not having anything new to choose from, especially when your LG looses most of it's RF capabilities (It's really pissing me off) It would be nice to see something new but it's good that they take time to insure the quality of the item. Too bad they didn't do that to my LG. But I'm not bitter.


That's quite odd how you're disappointed with your LG TM520 (Afterall, that is the only LG phone listed under your name). I find that it is a great phone for RF. The earpiece is always clear, nothing is choppy unlike my friend's phone which is on the Roger's network. It is still clear even if it gets 1 or 2 bars.

The unfortunate part is that it isn't as good looking as the Samsung etc. The LG is still a good phone.



Posted by: ff2fan

When I first got it, it was fine but now it looses it's signal any chance it gets. Like in my basement my Audiovox 8100 (which I find to have great RF) works like a champ, whereas my LG cuts in and out and isn't reliable enough to use in alot of places. I'm thinking something happened to the transmitter/receiver from the abuse it took when I used the holster.



Posted by: MethodMan

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
Apparently, they scrapped it. That's what I heard anyway. Anybody know anything further?

It would be interesting to find out why. Sprint is having a joy of a time selling the Sanyo 5300 and 8100 phones. It ranks pretty high compared to the other handsets.



Posted by: HC - NO "i"

Quote:
Originally posted by MethodMan
It would be interesting to find out why. Sprint is having a joy of a time selling the Sanyo 5300 and 8100 phones. It ranks pretty high compared to the other handsets.


MethodMan,

According to the East... because the deal with the Korean has certain influence on the veto.



Posted by: MethodMan

Quote:
Originally posted by HC - NO "i"
MethodMan,

According to the East... because the deal with the Korean has certain influence on the veto.

What?? Are you saying Samsung, LG, Kyocera are forcing Telus' hand into NOT carrying Sanyo's line of handsets?



Posted by: Xirc

Quote:
Originally posted by MethodMan
What?? Are you saying Samsung, LG, Kyocera are forcing Telus' hand into NOT carrying Sanyo's line of handsets?


The Korean companies (Samsung and LG) are very willing to offer huge amounts of support and effort to cater to TELUS' needs. Sanyo in turn offers very little in the way of support. They would just assume sell the handset to TELUS and be done with it from there on in. They do not operate any repair services and do not have any channel support.

Thus if you have comparable Samsung, LG, and Sanyo handsets there is a lot of incentive to choose the company who is more willing to suck up to you and give you more "stuff".

That being said I would personally like to see one or two Sanyo handsets back in the line-up. I was always very impressed with my Sanyo 5000 and 6000 phones. The quality is very high and they were very cutting edge at the time. I'm just glad I never had to send one in for repair though!



Posted by: ff2fan

I honestly was looking forward to the Sanyo 5300 because of it's color external screen and flash camera. Plus after reading the reviews it seems like a pretty sweet handset. Anybody know if any of the upcoming handsets will have java capabilities?



Posted by: Xirc

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
Anybody know if any of the upcoming handsets will have java capabilities?


Yes, but not all of them. Eventually every handset will have java in it, but in the beginning it will be restricted mostly to the higher end handsets.



Posted by: HC - NO "i"

Quote:
Originally posted by MethodMan
What?? Are you saying Samsung, LG, Kyocera are forcing Telus' hand into NOT carrying Sanyo's line of handsets?


MethodMan,

Well, I am not racial profiling Korean but in this case (and, maybe the 2010 Winter Games bid too) it is likely the politics behind the scene. They do have influences on this topic.

BTW, do you know that Kyocera is a Japanese company founded in 1959? Kyocera Wireless Corp. is based in San Diego, California and employs more than 2,500 people... It does not matter as Telus EAST will no longer consider a reliable, no-bells-and-whistles, business type handset from Kyocera.



Posted by: web_matt

Quote:
Originally posted by HC - NO "i"
It does not matter as Telus EAST will no longer consider a reliable, no-bells-and-whistles, business type handset from Kyocera.

Darn! And I don't suppose there is any chance of Telus offering a Handset only in one half of the country...



Posted by: akovach

Quote:
Originally posted by HC - NO "i"
BTW, do you know that Kyocera is a Japanese company founded in 1959? Kyocera Wireless Corp. is based in San Diego, California and employs more than 2,500 people...


Doesn't Kyocera have some specific relationship with Audiovox or Qualcomm or someone?



Posted by: samab

Kyocera bought Qualcomm's phone division. Ericsson bought Qualcomm's wireless infrastructure division.



Posted by: harrytse

do any of these future offerings including the camera phones follow the path of the A220's Digital only, or is Telus determined on the triple mode, let's keep analogue nonsense?



Posted by: samab

Quote:
Originally posted by harrytse
do any of these future offerings including the camera phones follow the path of the A220's Digital only, or is Telus determined on the triple mode, let's keep analogue nonsense?


I think that A220 is too expensive already so Telus just want to keep the price down.



Posted by: Xirc

Quote:
Originally posted by harrytse
do any of these future offerings including the camera phones follow the path of the A220's Digital only, or is Telus determined on the triple mode, let's keep analogue nonsense?


Whether or not a phone includes analog capability depends on the phones target market.

For example the Ruby does not have analog because it is not expected that a majority of upper class women will be traveling to remote analog areas with their ultra fashion sensitive phones. Another example would be the blackberry and thera devices. They are intended for people who need mobile access to their data and email. Since you cannot do this in analog areas they do not include analog capability.



Posted by: harrytse

but no need for analogue would mean no need to design phones with analogue, regardless of "target market"



Posted by: icyballer

TELUS loves to get the exclusive rights to handsets... which is difficult. Thats probably why we have such 'old' handsets. I don't think a new phone every month is the solution though... too many phones makes it way too hard for the average consumer to decide... I agree there should be a larger selection... i say 3 new phones every 4 months, 12 handsets a year (plus data handsets... like the THERA or RIM).



Posted by: Jason

Yup - 12 phones at any given time would be a good selection to choose from.

They should vary from low-end entry level and cheap to the high-end chock-full-of-features with camera, color screen, etc, etc.



Posted by: Xirc

12 PCS handsets would be way too much. There is no reason why you need 12 different handsets in order to satisfy your customers needs. I would say no more than 10 handsets plus data devices.

Even 10 handsets is a lot.



Posted by: Jason

I DISAGREE ! ! ! I rarely disagree with Xirc, so this is fun!

Look at how many phones Verizon has: 14 (I know its US, but still - all the variety!!!)

Rogers has roughly 10.

Telus - 8. And one of those was just discontinued, so that makes 7.

I would like to see 10-12 phones. The more the merrier...



Posted by: Xirc

Quote:
Originally posted by SwatZeR
I DISAGREE ! ! ! I rarely disagree with Xirc, so this is fun!

Look at how many phones Verizon has: 14 (I know its US, but still - all the variety!!!)

Rogers has roughly 10.

Telus - 8. And one of those was just discontinued, so that makes 7.

I would like to see 10-12 phones. The more the merrier...


Verizon also operates in a market of 250 million people. Their sales volume is so much higher that offering large line of handsets is easier and less costly than the equivelant in Canada.

Rogers has more handsets, but they're not doing any better in the market than TELUS which just goes to show that having more handsets doesn't make you better.

Having between 8 - 10 good handsets is plenty. If you want to be like Rogers and have 12, 14, or 16 handsets, but half of them suck then you go right ahead...hehe



Posted by: Jason

BAH! More is better I tells ya! I want more just because I like selection. Right now I would only choose the A-520 or V60. There are no other phones that appeal to me. I am not happy with everything on the A-520 and maybe having more phones to choose from might bring me that much closer to the "perfect" phone. It doesn't exist yet - but one day it will!!!

But I am also a dealer, so I love it when we have more phones. The only downside is having to know all the features for every phone inside and out so that I can answer all the questions that customers come in with.

One thing I still hate: customers coming in with the Audiovox 9000 and they couldn't dial in or out. They managed to switch the NAM. Or hitting the power button once on a Nokia 6185 and switching the Normal mode to Meeting so that the phone didn't ring.

It's hard to keep all that info in the noggin! But in the end I don't mind at all.

I'm gonna stick with saying 12 phones knowing full well that it won't happen. 10 at the most is even pushing it for Telus. But I can still hope can't I?



Posted by: Xirc

Quote:
Originally posted by SwatZeR
But I am also a dealer, so I love it when we have more phones.


As a dealer you should also be able to appreciate the expense and the pain of having to carry such a huge line of phones. The cost of keeping everything in stock is very high. Also, stocking accessories for such a large number of phones is a real pain. Especially if you have 2 or 3 accessory vendors and 12 different handsets.



Posted by: MakTypeR

I just wish they would intorduce Sanyo phones again. They might not be the best but the on I had was really good. SCP4500



Posted by: akovach

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
Apparently, they scrapped it. That's what I heard anyway. Anybody know anything further?


I don't understand how it could work so well for Sprint, and I'd think people from Sprint must come into Telus territory once in a while and roam in Canada... are they having problems?

How could it be so bad for Telus?

WHAT IS THIS MYSTERIOUS "TESTING PHASE"?



Posted by: ff2fan

I work at a retailer so we don't even get Moto phones so our selection is even smaller. need new phones.... anything....



Posted by: superjohn

Quote:
Originally posted by SwatZeR
I DISAGREE ! ! ! I rarely disagree with Xirc, so this is fun!

Look at how many phones Verizon has: 14 (I know its US, but still - all the variety!!!)

Rogers has roughly 10.

Telus - 8. And one of those was just discontinued, so that makes 7.

I would like to see 10-12 phones. The more the merrier...


Now I know I am not the only customer who feels Telus is not offering enough phones. Customers need more new phones now.



Posted by: Jason

Quote:
Originally posted by Xirc
As a dealer you should also be able to appreciate the expense and the pain of having to carry such a huge line of phones. The cost of keeping everything in stock is very high. Also, stocking accessories for such a large number of phones is a real pain. Especially if you have 2 or 3 accessory vendors and 12 different handsets.


I DO understand and appreciate the pain of it all, but I don't care! As a dealer I know how much of a pain in the a$$ it can be, but I would rather deal with it than have only 7 phones to choose from. I know what I look for in a phone and I want more selection just as much as any other consumer would. Just because there are more accessories involved and more product knowledge doesn't mean we shouldn't carry more phones.



Posted by: Xirc

Quote:
Originally posted by akovach
I don't understand how it could work so well for Sprint, and I'd think people from Sprint must come into Telus territory once in a while and roam in Canada... are they having problems?

How could it be so bad for Telus?

WHAT IS THIS MYSTERIOUS "TESTING PHASE"?


Decisions regarding the Sanyo phones have not been based on the actual performance of the handset (which is quite good), but rather the relationship between TELUS and Sanyo vs TELUS and Samsung/LG.

Sanyo just doesn't like to suck up very much.



Posted by: ff2fan

I was really looking forward to this phone. Has anybody seen one? How does the screen look? Rest of phone?



Posted by: ff2fan

I'm beginning to sense that there are new phones around the corner after seeing the T206 as only a refurbished phone. Would Telus have discontinued the phone if there was no replacement? Probably not. Anyways, they are long overdue for a phone.



Posted by: Xirc

Sorry? What? Did someone say MMS camera phones in September?



Posted by: harrytse

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
I'm beginning to sense that there are new phones around the corner after seeing the T206 as only a refurbished phone. Would Telus have discontinued the phone if there was no replacement? Probably not. Anyways, they are long overdue for a phone.


Telus discontinuing the T206 may also have been contributed by Sony Ericsson's w/drawl from North American CDMA.



Posted by: Bimmer

I think we may see some new phones for the back to school promotion. That's almost a month from now. Maybe some other new phones for Christmas and New Year as well. Let's keep our fingers crossed.


I am sick of my Motorola V60. I have had it for a while now so I want something new but I haven't been able to find a replacement. The closest one would be the Samsung A520.



Posted by: ff2fan

Quote:
Originally posted by harrytse
Telus discontinuing the T206 may also have been contributed by Sony Ericsson's w/drawl from North American CDMA.


That is a good point as well. They've really got to release phones more frequently, it creates frustration for customers who need a new phone every two weeks (namely me) and don't like the current selection.



Posted by: HC - NO "i"

Quote:
Originally posted by harrytse
Telus discontinuing the T206 may also have been contributed by Sony Ericsson's w/drawl from North American CDMA.


harrytse,

In fact, it is the other way around. The volume that Telus creates is relatively small potato compares to the US market potential.



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
That is a good point as well. They've really got to release phones more frequently, it creates frustration for customers who need a new phone every two weeks (namely me) and don't like the current selection.


2 weeks? LOL... ok maybe you're exagerating... but still, if you change phones quite frequently, why aren't you on Mike? ... SIM cards come in handy when switching handsets - no need to reprogram your phonebook every time.

I think I've been using the same phone for over a year, now. Amazing... don't think I've ever made it this long! Usually I change once every 4 or 6 months...



Posted by: Bimmer

Quote:
Originally posted by TELUSMobilityGuy
2 weeks? LOL... ok maybe you're exagerating... but still, if you change phones quite frequently, why aren't you on Mike? ... SIM cards come in handy when switching handsets - no need to reprogram your phonebook every time.

I think I've been using the same phone for over a year, now. Amazing... don't think I've ever made it this long! Usually I change once every 4 or 6 months...


Why Mike and not GSM?

I think Telus thinks too highly of themselves. HC- No"i" was right, Telus is only a small potato when comparing to the US market. But I wasn't quite sure what he meant by "the other way around...". Anyways, I don't see any reasons why the big boys (Motorola, Nokia and SonyEricsson) would want to suck up to Telus by offering exclusive phones.



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

Quote:
Originally posted by Bimmer
Why Mike and not GSM?

I think Telus thinks too highly of themselves. HC- No"i" was right, Telus is only a small potato when comparing to the US market. But I wasn't quite sure what he meant by "the other way around...". Anyways, I don't see any reasons why the big boys (Motorola, Nokia and SonyEricsson) would want to suck up to Telus by offering exclusive phones.


Well, because Mike is better, of course.

As for your last question, the answer is because if they don't, LG/Samsung/Audiovox will. TELUS isn't exactly a small potato anymore, imagine what it would be like if we were still just a regional carrier. Of course, compared to the US market, this is true, but TELUS does have a lot of clout nowadays.



Posted by: HC - NO "i"

Quote:
Originally posted by Bimmer
Why Mike and not GSM?

I think Telus thinks too highly of themselves. HC- No"i" was right, Telus is only a small potato when comparing to the US market. But I wasn't quite sure what he meant by "the other way around...". Anyways, I don't see any reasons why the big boys (Motorola, Nokia and SonyEricsson) would want to suck up to Telus by offering exclusive phones.


Bimmer,

Oh, I wrote "the other way around" in the previous message which refers to the move of dropping the T206: Since Sony Ericsson decides to pull the plug on CDMA consumer market in North America, carriers like Telus, Verizon (is about to release T606) and Sprint (is about to release T608) are reconsidering to carry its products. It is not comfortable to carry the SE handsets as the warranty / RMA / tech support may become more difficult even SE claims to continue to support the existing products.

Anyway, the news of dropping T206 has been up in the air for quite some time.



Posted by: ff2fan

I WAS exagerating (sp?) when I said two weeks, I do like to chage my phone about every 4 to 6 months as well but the selection right now bores me. I am also on a contract so I don't believe I can switch to Mike (although I've been considering it for a while) I will not use GSM as my primary phone anyways. Although it is fun to play with the new handsets every once in a while (FIDO prepaid comes in handy for that)



Posted by: Trout Jesus

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
I WAS exagerating (sp?) when I said two weeks, I do like to chage my phone about every 4 to 6 months as well but the selection right now bores me. I am also on a contract so I don't believe I can switch to Mike (although I've been considering it for a while) I will not use GSM as my primary phone anyways. Although it is fun to play with the new handsets every once in a while (FIDO prepaid comes in handy for that)


It depends on how deep you are into your contract and what your usage is like. I suggest you call Telus' loyalty and retention department to see if you can migrate to Mike. They are usually pretty good about it because Mike users generate more ARPU.



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

Just visit your dealer, they should be able to help you look into it. It's happened before, especially if you're close to the end of your contract.

Then, you can play with X-fleet and NWDC with the rest of us!!

*beep beep*



Posted by: Xirc

Quote:
Originally posted by TELUSMobilityGuy
2 weeks? LOL... ok maybe you're exagerating...


I used to change my phone every 2 weeks. Are you saying there is something wrong with that?



Posted by: Helmsley

Back to school sale promotion leaked. But what about deals for business users? Business users are not getting anything new.......

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
I'm beginning to sense that there are new phones around the corner after seeing the T206 as only a refurbished phone. Would Telus have discontinued the phone if there was no replacement? Probably not. Anyways, they are long overdue for a phone.




Posted by: web_matt

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
I'm beginning to sense that there are new phones around the corner after seeing the T206 as only a refurbished phone.

How right you were. Its on Telus's website for $99.
http://www.telusmobility.com/ab/pcs...furbished.shtml



Posted by: akovach

Quote:
Originally posted by Bimmer
I am sick of my Motorola V60. I have had it for a while now so I want something new but I haven't been able to find a replacement.


You wanna trade?

Only a few scuffs on the bottom of my T300!

It was worth a shot.



Posted by: ff2fan

Quote:
Originally posted by Trout Jesus
It depends on how deep you are into your contract and what your usage is like. I suggest you call Telus' loyalty and retention department to see if you can migrate to Mike. They are usually pretty good about it because Mike users generate more ARPU.


That's cool I'll have one year left on my contract come sept. 10 (i hope anyway, when you take over a contract does it still end at the same time?) will i have to buy a mike phone? or can I extend my contract and get one for new customer pricing? I'd have to change my number too wouldn't I? So many questions.



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

Change your number, yes.

Of course, whenever you renew your contract, you can purchase a new handset for new acquisition pricing.



Posted by: ff2fan

Quote:
Originally posted by TELUSMobilityGuy
Change your number, yes.

Of course, whenever you renew your contract, you can purchase a new handset for new acquisition pricing.


So can I renew early?



Posted by: ff2fan

Is switching from pcs to mike considered a new activation?



Posted by: Bimmer

Quote:
Originally posted by Helmsley
Back to school sale promotion leaked. But what about deals for business users? Business users are not getting anything new.......


Then what is the back to school promotion?



Posted by: Jason

It hasn't been released yet...don't listen to Helmsley!



Posted by: Bimmer

Quote:
Originally posted by SwatZeR
It hasn't been released yet...don't listen to Helmsley!


Oh, that got me excited for a few mins. I am more interested in new phones than special price plans. Obviously, Telus is more expensive and I don't see that will change in the next little while if ever...

The Talk 40 Plus was a nice deal until they posted the conditions about removing the evenings and weekends after the contract.



Posted by: ff2fan

Does Phone 40 EW have the same condition?



Posted by: akovach

Quote:
Originally posted by Xirc
Decisions regarding the Sanyo phones have not been based on the actual performance of the handset (which is quite good), but rather the relationship between TELUS and Sanyo vs TELUS and Samsung/LG.

Sanyo just doesn't like to suck up very much.


Well that's very unfortunate.

I loved my late SCP-4500 and my friend is still using his SCP-5000 that he paid quite a lot of money for when it first came out. He's noticed stupid problems with my phone and other Samsungs, and he's waiting for another colour Sanyo model from Telus... too bad for him I guess if there aren't any on the way.

The 8100/5300 would have been a great addition to the family!

I guess we'll wait for the LG to surface and see what's wrong with that model.



Posted by: Helmsley

Email me in private. I can also supply you with the manual for the new Telus phone in pdf format.

Quote:
Originally posted by Bimmer
Then what is the back to school promotion?




Posted by: Bimmer

Helmsley,

Check your PM.



Posted by: Shlack_attack

Guys this topic of When sounds all too familiar... IE July 1 2003? we're now almost at August 1 2003 and yet nothing.... since end of MAY we've been hearing it's around the corner... yada yada yada....

Now Back to school??? All my dealers have no hint of any back to school promo... Although they may launch some promo to blow out "kiddy" style phones to deplete their stock a bit... and offer some new plans geared at the tweens...

I think this is a marketing ploy and those creative SOBs in marketing do know what they are doing... We all know that all of us are to say "enthusiasts of the cell phone" and we monitor this and other sites quite heavily - we represent group A and trust me they are also monitoring these pages to see what we have to say... and we want new phones so if they hold out long enough group B (general public) will begin to ask for more phones - especially because group A is under 1% of the cellphone population - group B represents the masses.

Look at their horrible mistake with the A220 AKA RUBY RED... What a flop ! ! ! I don't sell more than 0.01% of my sock for A220 - They didn't read the market right - how many women actually purchased this monstrosaty? and for over $400...

So they are playing this out right - by Sept we may have a new phone - like something in the "Add color and pictures to your life" campaign... But really maybe late Sept or Oct is a more likely guess...




Posted by: akovach

Cmoooooooooooooooon Christmas Sale!



Posted by: Bimmer

If a company waits until the general customer to ask for new products, that will be too late. Other competitors will get ahead of you and you will lose customers.



Posted by: Bimmer





Posted by: ff2fan

I'm getting closer and closer to changing to MiKE and I will be taking the i95cl any comments on this phone?(Battery,Reception?)



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
I'm getting closer and closer to changing to MiKE and I will be taking the i95cl any comments on this phone?(Battery,Reception?)


Reception is good. Features are packed, more than any other Mike handset. Battery is alright - talk time is good, 3+ hours, but standby is mediocre, not bad... I love my i95cl. Since I've had it, never been tempted to go back to PCS.



Posted by: ff2fan

Good to know, I would have to buy out of my contract to switch but the CSR said that they can waive that if I send them my LG. So I could be doing that next paycheque.



Posted by: ff2fan

Since the ending is only a few days away. Does anybody know if the $300 Mike promotion is being extended?



Posted by: ff2fan

Does anyone also know how much memory is in the i95cl?



Posted by: GaryB

So if I understand what might be coming down the pipe on Telus within the next couple of months +/-, if I want to get a new phone, my choices will be:

- Audiovox flip camera phone
- LG flip camera phone
- Samsung flip camera phone
- Moto 720/731 flip phone
- Kyocera 7135
- Kyocera K series candy bar

Does this pretty much sum up the new near-term lineup??



Posted by: Jason

Yup yup...



Posted by: Xirc

There are also a few other lesser discussed hansets on the way. One of the most notable is the Samsung i700 pda phone.



Posted by: ff2fan

Which Samsung is it?



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

i700 = The Samsung MIT.

Mobile
Intelligent
Terminal

Pocket PC wireless data device, plus digital camera and phone functionality. A kicked up Thera, basically. Probably for Velocity Wireless plans, perhaps with a voice bolt-on.



Posted by: ff2fan

That's pretty neat. Has anybody seen the i730 yet? It seems doubtful but just asking



Posted by: ff2fan

I was thinking about an i60 until i can muster up enough money for an i95, because it's free right now and I don't know if the 3yr/$300 promo is continuing past the 31st. Any opinions on this phone?



Posted by: T@GlobalCell

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
That's pretty neat. Has anybody seen the i730 yet? It seems doubtful but just asking


Actually, I had the chance to play with it at Mike Repair training for about 15 minutes...

It seems as though it has the stainless steel casing like the v60 has, and it feels alot more solid than either the i90 or i95 does...

All in all.. I am pleased to say that it was an extremely nice phone...



Posted by: ff2fan

Quote:
Originally posted by T@GlobalCell
All in all.. I am pleased to say that it was an extremely nice phone...



Awesome, thanks for the imput



Posted by: ff2fan

Any other word on new iDEN phones other than the i730 or the i205?



Posted by: T@GlobalCell

I can't remember what the model numbers are.. but I have heard that they will be releasing them in Oct, Nov, Dec, and Jan in succession...

Hopefully they are getting the i830 as well which would be the replacement for the i95....



Posted by: ff2fan

Are there any pictures for the i830 on the internet?



Posted by: ff2fan

anybody?



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
Any other word on new iDEN phones other than the i730 or the i205?


i305, too... and i830, as mentioned.

I'm hoping to see the IDEN RIM Blackberry 6710, too.



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

I have a meeting today. Have a feeling I'm going to see something new. Stay tuned.



Posted by: ff2fan

Can't wait. because if the current promos are extended to those times I might wait to get one of the new phones.



Posted by: estrelas

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
I was thinking about an i60 until i can muster up enough money for an i95, because it's free right now and I don't know if the 3yr/$300 promo is continuing past the 31st. Any opinions on this phone?


umm.. if you want my humble opinion, just wait a bit more. I always see i60s coming back.. mostly b ecause people are not made aware of the fact that the newer models do not have speaker phone (one of the most useful features of mike phones) and there is no external callr ID, which is quite annoying at times.

Have you ever considered an i90? it's $99 on a three year term, or you could always wait for the newer mikes which may be coming out late Q4/Q1.



Posted by: ff2fan

I was thinking about that. My friend just got an i55sr and I really like it. I might get an i90 instead but that depends on my paycheque. Any comments on the i55 from anyone?



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

Quote:
Originally posted by ff2fan
I was thinking about that. My friend just got an i55sr and I really like it. I might get an i90 instead but that depends on my paycheque. Any comments on the i55 from anyone?


i90c is a pretty good deal right now on a 3-year, only $99.

In my opinion and based on the experiences of my clients, the i55sr is a GREAT phone. If I wasn't a flip-phone guy, that would probably be the one I'd use. I quite like the gray one although the yellow one seems to sell a bit better. i55sr is a huge seller, especially in AB (isn't that where you are?). Probably second highest volume next to the i90c.



Posted by: ff2fan

Quote:
Originally posted by TELUSMobilityGuy
i90c is a pretty good deal right now on a 3-year, only $99.

In my opinion and based on the experiences of my clients, the i55sr is a GREAT phone. If I wasn't a flip-phone guy, that would probably be the one I'd use. I quite like the gray one although the yellow one seems to sell a bit better. i55sr is a huge seller, especially in AB (isn't that where you are?). Probably second highest volume next to the i90c.


YAY!! I made it to 100 replies! Isn't that the highest in the Telus Forum? Anyways I am in AB, that's good to know, anyways my friend activated his phone at 9pm and it still wasn't working by 11pm, anything wrong with the Mike activation system?



Posted by: Bimmer

Are you guys happy or disappointed with the release of Kyocera 7135?



Posted by: LKsKang

Hey guys, I have a quick question. Mike only works off one frequency but PCS off two digital and one analog. Well, for PCS, are all three frequencies in the Toronto area? I mean, if my 1.9Ghz doesn't cut it, will the 800Mhz kick in cause I know analog does. Or is it just 1.9 and analog in Toronto and 800 and analog in the surrounding area?



Posted by: Bimmer

Quote:
Originally posted by LKsKang
Hey guys, I have a quick question. Mike only works off one frequency but PCS off two digital and one analog. Well, for PCS, are all three frequencies in the Toronto area? I mean, if my 1.9Ghz doesn't cut it, will the 800Mhz kick in cause I know analog does. Or is it just 1.9 and analog in Toronto and 800 and analog in the surrounding area?


What kind of a post is that? This is totally off topic.



Posted by: Xirc

Quote:
Originally posted by Bimmer
Are you guys happy or disappointed with the release of Kyocera 7135?


The release of the 7135 is important because it is a true PDA phone combo that is highly function in both areas. Previous devices would tend to lean towards one end or the other, phone or pda, but not both.

Think about it..

Thera - this is a wireless internet device. it is not functional as a phone other than for breif and infrequent calls. Internet, PDA, SMS device: Yes. Phone: No

Blackberry: This is a superb device for people who need to do lots of mobile email, SMS, and wireless web usage. As a phone the quality is superb as well, but the functionality of actually dialing numbers is not the best. Someone who does not use the email functionality will not fully appreciate this device. Email device, wireless web device, SMS device, and phone: Yes. Fully functional PDA: Not quite.

7135: Phone: Yes! Fully funtional PDA: Yes! Internet: Yes!

The email capabilities of the 7135 may not be as robust as on the RIM, but it certainly gets the job done with ease.





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