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Posted by: Takumi_Inui

I just tried flashing my GD88 with the A53 No Camera sound , on the phone , it said Invalid Command , and it stopped the download. I heard people saying that if you give the phone a bad flash , it won't turn on again .. is this true ? I need some input guys.

Posted by: Takumi_Inui

that was a close one , I got my phone working again .. good thing I never turned it off.

Posted by: Bence8810

Can you tell us how it happened, and how you fixed it? It seems to be happening to people over and over again, and most of them lose their phones. Did you restart WinMoDo. and not touched the phone, and reflashed the same firmware that failed previously?

Thanks

Posted by: ducvader

When you are flashing from a lower firmware # to a higher one or vice versa you must set the boot icon to green. However from what I have learned from another member here...if you are gonna flash the phone with the same firmware such as A53 with cam sound to A53 with no cam sound you can skip the boot process and leave it red. If something goes wrong with the flashing you can easily reflash your phone to fix that problem because the boot part (which is necessary for any program to communicate with the phone) is still there! Also if you ever have a problem where any program won't connect to your phone...take the battery out for at least one minute....if that doesn't work then restart your computer. Those two worked for me!!

Posted by: zaku

for what you said about the boot part i don't think so... cuz see Shumba has his phone dead at 30% of the image file he said. so i assume it already finished its boot sector so it went to the image file. and still he said his phone can't boot up.
as for me, i got a dead GU87 while flashing it. and in no way i can make it start up anymore (tried every possible thing.)
also i know another one that was flashing his phone with the a53 no camera sound, he got it stopped at the image file too. and obviously his phone doesn't power up anymore too.
maybe really depends on luck

Posted by: Bence8810

What I understand is this.

As "ducvader" said, if you flash to the same version firmware, you dont need to do the boot section, and either the language section. It makes it safe. When you do the whole nine yards, it can fail, yes. BUt there is one solution, I mean it worked previously for some of us. If your phone fails, under no circumstances do a battery removal from the phone, or trying to turn it on. The chances are that the flash is corrupt, so if you recycle the pover, it will try to re-read the BIOS (does it every time when it turns on) , and the corrupted bios wont let the phone boot. So if your falshing fails, just restart WinMoDo, and try to reflash it with a KNOWN to be working firmware. Like the one you previously had on. If WinMoDo doesnt start correctly, you can do a reboot on the computer, but not on the phone. Since the failure can happen any time, you might want to have your phone fully charged just in case, so the power wont run out before the flashing, or 2nd, 3rd flashing is completed. ALso you might consider doing it on a notebook, or a computer backed with a UPS, so you cannot loose power during flashing, which obviously leads to failure. And also the backup battery can protect you from surges, which can also lead to corrupted flash. These phones are pretty sensitive, so be precautious, and you have a better chance of succeeding.

Posted by: Takumi_Inui

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Originally posted by Bence8810
Can you tell us how it happened, and how you fixed it? It seems to be happening to people over and over again, and most of them lose their phones. Did you restart WinMoDo. and not touched the phone, and reflashed the same firmware that failed previously?

Thanks

This exactly what happened , I tried to Hex Edit the A53 no camera sound I found on one of the links. Shortly after , I tried to flash it on with Winmodu and it didn't work. It just said 1KB sent and it said unrecognized command on the phone. I just didn't power it down and stopped the download and quickly flash it back to the A39 for a quick recovery. It's pretty bad how I already know of 3 people who got their phones fried because of this.

Posted by: Bence8810

Ok. I got it now. Because I am sure you made us worried with your post, because you forgot to mention that you HEX edited your firmware. So the 53_NoSound is not bad on its own right? Reason I am asking, is because I am having it shared on my website, and I dont feel comfortable giving out something that will ruin somebody's phone. But if it is so, I can just leave the file where it is, no worries.

Thanks for the info.

Posted by: TriMesh

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Originally posted by zaku
for what you said about the boot part i don't think so... cuz see Shumba has his phone dead at 30% of the image file he said. so i assume it already finished its boot sector so it went to the image file. and still he said his phone can't boot up.
as for me, i got a dead GU87 while flashing it. and in no way i can make it start up anymore (tried every possible thing.)
also i know another one that was flashing his phone with the a53 no camera sound, he got it stopped at the image file too. and obviously his phone doesn't power up anymore too.
maybe really depends on luck

If the boot is loaded correctly but the main firmware is corrupt, then it can get into a situation where it's stuck in a series of watchdog resets and can't be powered on/off. This makes it look like it's not reacting to WinMoDo (because the phone isn't actually powering up when you press the power button). The other thing to note is that the code to control the charger is part of the main firmware, not the boot.

Try recharging the battery completely on another phone, and then then attaching it to the phone after WinMoDo has been started in download mode. This worked on my friends GD87 - which was apparently totally dead in the way you describe.

Posted by: Takumi_Inui

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Originally posted by Bence8810
Ok. I got it now. Because I am sure you made us worried with your post, because you forgot to mention that you HEX edited your firmware. So the 53_NoSound is not bad on its own right? Reason I am asking, is because I am having it shared on my website, and I dont feel comfortable giving out something that will ruin somebody's phone. But if it is so, I can just leave the file where it is, no worries.

Thanks for the info.

There's nothing wrong with it alone , I just flashed it back on from A39 .. it's now got the A53 no camera sound .. works perfectly fine

Posted by: Takumi_Inui

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Originally posted by TriMesh
If the boot is loaded correctly but the main firmware is corrupt, then it can get into a situation where it's stuck in a series of watchdog resets and can't be powered on/off. This makes it look like it's not reacting to WinMoDo (because the phone isn't actually powering up when you press the power button). The other thing to note is that the code to control the charger is part of the main firmware, not the boot.

Try recharging the battery completely on another phone, and then then attaching it to the phone after WinMoDo has been started in download mode. This worked on my friends GD87 - which was apparently totally dead in the way you describe.

Looks like there is a way to save it then.. just put the battery in when it goes on download mode ?

Posted by: TriMesh

Yes - leave the battery off, click the download button and then attach the battery and press the power button. If it doesn't catch it, then take the battery out and try again.

Obviously, if it already has the flash loader message on the display, just leave the battery on the phone and don't touch it

Posted by: Takumi_Inui

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Originally posted by TriMesh
Yes - leave the battery off, click the download button and then attach the battery and press the power button. If it doesn't catch it, then take the battery out and try again.

Obviously, if it already has the flash loader message on the display, just leave the battery on the phone and don't touch it

Smart thinking ,well if anyone who has their phone dead .. go and try it .. tell me if it works 'cause I'll be more open to flash my phone , right now .. I'm afraid to put the unlocking cable in there

Posted by: jameson2607

Well, once again this forum's prevented my GD87 from becoming an expensive, shiny paperweight. I can confirm that the method of starting the download and inserting the battery works, it worked twice for me. Still I think I'll lay off the reflashing from now on, just in case.

Posted by: Takumi_Inui

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Originally posted by jameson2607
Well, once again this forum's prevented my GD87 from becoming an expensive, shiny paperweight. I can confirm that the method of starting the download and inserting the battery works, it worked twice for me. Still I think I'll lay off the reflashing from now on, just in case.

I guess all us GD87 owners can sleep better now

Posted by: kaze

yeah!!!! guys u awaken my gd87!! thx X1000000

Posted by: codysydney

My phone (due to my own stupidity) was flashed to only speak languages who's characters I don't even recognise, let alone can read. Oops - It gets worse - I tried to fix it but WinMoDo was just "Signalling", which I think actually means it's signalling ME that it's time to buy a new phone. However, TriMesh's timed-battery-removal trick saved the day and as I type I'm reflashing with what I hope is Engrish.

Now I can sleep again! Whew!!!