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Posted by: iamed

The X105 will be at T-Mob mid month and the E105 by the end of the month.

Posted by: Arithmetic

boaring phones...

..::i need to leave t-mobile::..

Posted by: 3560freak

seems like Cingular owns the west coast as far as phones go. here in the midwest T-mobile still has the best phones by far, seeing as how Cingular is still TDMA here as well as AT&T. Super boring!!!!!!!!!!!! T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon own Texas

Posted by: IsLand_BoY

That's good to hear. I'm not sure which phone I want to get next. I'll probably end up with a 3595 as a backup. I dunno if I can part with my S105

Posted by: Xarthan

Quote:

Originally posted by 3560freak
seems like Cingular owns the west coast as far as phones go. here in the midwest T-mobile still has the best phones by far, seeing as how Cingular is still TDMA here as well as AT&T. Super boring!!!!!!!!!!!! T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon own Texas

they own the west coast except oregon

Posted by: Drag'nGT

Quote:

Originally posted by Arithmetic
boaring phones...

..::i need to leave t-mobile::..

What are you *****ing about? If you want a phone with lots of cool features go buy a SE T610 or a Nokia 3650. All phones have esentially the same features. Bluetooth, IrDA and a built in camera are the only real features that make a cell phone stand out from other cell phones. Allmost all current phones make and recieve calls, have a phonebook, callender, messaging, games, clock, alarm ect.....

Shure the E105 isn't a great improvement on the S105. But the X105 is a much better improvement over the R225.

Posted by: jboston511

Quote:

Originally posted by Arithmetic
boaring phones...

..::i need to leave t-mobile::..

I agree these phones are crap

If you want something fancy, get an unlocked phone.
But I don't have any problems with service, so I'm gonna stay.

Posted by: evan_silbert

I also heard something about a v205 replacement... any ideas?

Posted by: Matt114

How about the Samsung TV phone that is scheduled to launch in November? Will that get you guys excited? I can't wait to see it.

Posted by: Nittles

Wow you guys are behind!! everyone saying boring phones boring phones...has anyone other than the one guy tht brought up the x105 and the e105 actualy looked at our upcoming lineup?... 4th qtr is sick! and 1st qtr is insane! just in the next 2 months (most likely be late october we will have the

samsung E700 !!!!!

This phone will be amazing (2 color lcds, camera(with digi zoom!) camcoarder feature, 56 ringtones, downloadable java and java2 enabled games) if your looking for the new phone for t-mobile this will be the one! now stop whining and wait!

Posted by: jboston511

Quote:

Originally posted by Nittles
Wow you guys are behind!! everyone saying boring phones boring phones...has anyone other than the one guy tht brought up the x105 and the e105 actualy looked at our upcoming lineup?... 4th qtr is sick! and 1st qtr is insane! just in the next 2 months (most likely be late october we will have the

samsung E700 !!!!!

This phone will be amazing (2 color lcds, camera(with digi zoom!) camcoarder feature, 56 ringtones, downloadable java and java2 enabled games) if your looking for the new phone for t-mobile this will be the one! now stop whining and wait!

Where did you here this? E700 is supposed to be only dual band, so people here in the states could buy for a nice paperweight.

Posted by: Nittles

dual band... 900 and 1900 meaning no 800....does that REALLY bother you...people in the states can use the phone fine..i saw the demo model from the samsung rep already running on t-mobile GSM service , on friday...it will indeed work it is a gorgeous blue phone.... the external color LCD is awesome.... this will be THE phone. itll coast a SRP of around 375...itll be amazing.

Posted by: Matt114

The SGH-E700 will be tight. But, I'm serious about the Samsung TV phone. I work for T-Mobile and have heard that the TV phone will launch in November. I, for one, think that sounds pretty damn cool, too.

Posted by: Nittles

I work for T-Mobile as an RSM. the "TV phone" does exist but is not available anywhere....(as in nowhere in the world).... its not on any cell phone review sight or Samsungs direct Korean web sight?....... so whos telling you this? certainly not a Sam. Rep or any type of regional you have.... so where?.... have you seen pictures.... if its do in Nov a flash should have already gone out...or flyers or something.... so what makes you think this is true.... A TV phone in Japan retails about 950 dollars US .... Samsung has decided this is too much for American Pro-sumers to date...so why would they change that opinion now?...if your right (which i hope to god that you are) it will be the coolest F'n thing of all time! Ill be in line right behing you to get it!

(i dont think an American 1900 bandwith can handle a television signal just yet? Will it run of GSM or GPRS?)

Posted by: llnyp3ckll

Samsung released cdma version of tvphone couple of months ago,
and they introduced gsm version of the tv phone in Korea already.
I think it was p705..

Posted by: heybabyheybaby

Quote:

Originally posted by Nittles
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(i dont think an American 1900 bandwith can handle a television signal just yet? Will it run of GSM or GPRS?)

Maybe so with current data modulation schemes. However, there's no reason why it couldn't pick up regular VHF/UHF TV broadcasts.

Posted by: Nittles

Thats true... i guess it will get that.... has anyone seen pictures of this phone. i gota find one.

Posted by: Arithmetic

yes, the problem is waiting! Who wants to wait? certainly i dont but if its worth it (E700) ill do it. Im just saying the x105 and e105 are boaring phones and are just rehashes/updated rehases of current or discounted phones. The E700 looks to be the only phone thats differ from tmobiles line up. Question is, will it be better than the moto v600 or v300?... cuz thats the phone im willing to leve tmobile for if it goes to ATTWS or Cingular!

Posted by: ConceptVBS

Quote:

Originally posted by llnyp3ckll
Samsung released cdma version of tvphone couple of months ago,
and they introduced gsm version of the tv phone in Korea already.
I think it was p705..

They did introduce the CDMA version but only showcased a prototype version of the GSM version. The GSM Samsung TV phone WILL make it here to the US(most likely T-Mobile will carry it).

Posted by: angrychair

anyone know how much the x105 is going to be for? what kind of mail-in rebates also?

Posted by: evan_silbert

I would guess it will start at corporate stores for $100, then fall to $50. It will be free at indirects after one week probably.

Posted by: Nittles

Yeah ... thats the plan... the x105 will enter at 100 with a 50 dollar mail in rebate, with plan of 39.99 or higher.....

All this talk about "ill switch services if this company gets this phone" seems like a load of crap to me...youd move to ATT GSM from T-Mobile cuz of a phone...great and get 2/3 rds of the coverage you get with t-mobile....and to move to singular in most of my customers cases would mean to pay quite a bit more per month. Why not just get the phone ..unlock it and bring it to T-mobile.... Your most important thing is your service and if t-mobile doesnt cut it for you...than you should leave anyway....dont let the phones make up your mind about that.

The e700 is going to be one of the greatest phones the US has ever seen. Like when sprint got the A-500 and went BIG with it...it was one of the first REAL cool picture phones and people went ape **** over the damn thing...... the TV phone will prob have a bigger impact but the E700 is gonna be great. Samsung also has a version of the V205 with the spinning head comming to the states as a GSM that will have a built in MP3 player... im happy about that...itll be great..!

Posted by: Avironeur

When are these new Samsungs actually going to be offered?

Posted by: Matt114

Quote:

Originally posted by Nittles
I work for T-Mobile as an RSM. the "TV phone" does exist but is not available anywhere....(as in nowhere in the world).... its not on any cell phone review sight or Samsungs direct Korean web sight?....... so whos telling you this? certainly not a Sam. Rep or any type of regional you have.... so where?.... have you seen pictures.... if its do in Nov a flash should have already gone out...or flyers or something.... so what makes you think this is true.... A TV phone in Japan retails about 950 dollars US .... Samsung has decided this is too much for American Pro-sumers to date...so why would they change that opinion now?...if your right (which i hope to god that you are) it will be the coolest F'n thing of all time! Ill be in line right behing you to get it!

(i dont think an American 1900 bandwith can handle a television signal just yet? Will it run of GSM or GPRS?)

I am not making this up. I got the e-mail from my manager who received a T-Mobile corporate e-mail regarding the release dates of upcoming phones - the Samsung X105, E700 and TV phone were all included. If you'd like, I'll cut and paste the section from the e-mail. Just let me kinow.

Posted by: Arithmetic

Quote:

Originally posted by Nittles
Yeah ... thats the plan... the x105 will enter at 100 with a 50 dollar mail in rebate, with plan of 39.99 or higher.....

All this talk about "ill switch services if this company gets this phone" seems like a load of crap to me...youd move to ATT GSM from T-Mobile cuz of a phone...great and get 2/3 rds of the coverage you get with t-mobile....and to move to singular in most of my customers cases would mean to pay quite a bit more per month. Why not just get the phone ..unlock it and bring it to T-mobile.... Your most important thing is your service and if t-mobile doesnt cut it for you...than you should leave anyway....dont let the phones make up your mind about that.

The e700 is going to be one of the greatest phones the US has ever seen. Like when sprint got the A-500 and went BIG with it...it was one of the first REAL cool picture phones and people went ape **** over the damn thing...... the TV phone will prob have a bigger impact but the E700 is gonna be great. Samsung also has a version of the V205 with the spinning head comming to the states as a GSM that will have a built in MP3 player... im happy about that...itll be great..! :

^^^ true, but it cost to much to get a phone unlocked, and the phones i want dont operate on GSM (basically all the sprint camera phones). Only good phone for TM is the v205, and that thing is still 350!!! Forget that... looks like ill just have to wait

Posted by: jboston511

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt114
I am not making this up. I got the e-mail from my manager who received a T-Mobile corporate e-mail regarding the release dates of upcoming phones - the Samsung X105, E700 and TV phone were all included. If you'd like, I'll cut and paste the section from the e-mail. Just let me kinow.

I would like to see this e-mail

Posted by: cheerioboy26

Quote:

Originally posted by Avironeur
When are these new Samsungs actually going to be offered?

According to the store manager I know, he told me he read that both the x105 and e105 will be offered mid-late September. He didn't recall reading specific dates, but he was in training last week so he may have missed the dates.

Posted by: iamed

Unless the phones are listed in a flash or comm bulletin then dont believe what you hear about other phones. we have heard hundreds of people talk about these new phones that are coming out for t-mobile with no evidence to back it up. If there si a new phone coming out and the employees of t-mobile dont know about it then that is because t-mobile doesnt want them or anyone to know.
So i am sticking to the idea that the only new phones that are coming out are the X105 and the E105 that is becuase they are the only phones that have officially been announced.

Posted by: Matt114

Quote:

Originally posted by jboston511
I would like to see this e-mail

From the email I received:

Launch Detail:
Samsung X105 (Pearl) - Projected launch -September 5th.
Motorola V300 - Projected launch -October 15th(November 3rd for National
Retail - although we will have shipped product to them around October 15th
timeframe).

Samsung E105 (T2- replaces the S105) - Projected launch -October 3rd.
Samsung TV Phone - Projected launch -November 2003.
Samsung E715 (BSI-replaces the V205) - Projected launch -October 6th.

Posted by: evan_silbert

Sweet!

Posted by: Bratan

The Motorola V300 looks pretty cool. I like the mp3/wav ringtones

Posted by: evan_silbert

Still kinda looks like a pos... we will sell a million of them.

Posted by: z50z50z50

is the samsung SGH-E700 a series 60 symbian phone?

Posted by: Nittles

AWESOME!!!

thanks for the info matt.....maybe the west coast wont get it at the same time...although that would be a shame...

ask him if he has any idea of the phones acutal name...(as in SGH-???)

cuz there prob not just gonna call it the "TV phone" cool tip though....ill certainly be on the look out for a flash of some sort...ill try to throw my regional an e-mail...maybe he's heard somethin!

Posted by: Matt114

That e-mail was actually filtered down from pretty high up in T-Mobile's Products-Sales Operations division so you would think it is accurate. I will keep a look-out for the official name of the phone.

Posted by: Ainvar

If the e700 was a symbian s60 phone with expandable mem I would be sold. I want the Nokia 6600 that is coming out.
T-Mobile has awesome service but there rollout of phones here really suck ***.
I am sorry who cares about some of the phones they are selling just for phones. I know it is a catch 22 with what will sell and what will not sell.

Why doesn't Tmobile do this...
There is a percentage of people here in the states that want the high end phones from Europe and are willing to pay for them. I for one would like to get mine from the vendor I get my service from. Why not offer the whole range of phones that they sell overseas here in the states via special order service. You pay for the phone they mail it to you like an upgrade it is already setup for the service you pay for the phone all is good. It is not like you are asking them to create the phone and make it magically appear. One devision of Tmobile sells the phone let the other devision sell it also. That way they are not rolling out a phone that does not appear to the uneducated masses that sees a shiny new phone upnder a 100 dollars and they go apes**t over it.

It would not be that hard to do and would make that small percentage of people that want that high end phones that cooks, does your laundry, and order pizza all while you are doing something else.

I for one would have liked to buy the 6600 when it comes out without having to go through another vendor.

Posted by: Nittles

BECAUSE WE DONT OFFER A SOLID INSURANCE STRUCTURE...NOR COULD WE EXPECT ALL OUR REPS TO KNOW THE DETAILS ABOUT YOUR PERTICULAR PHONE THAT YOU WANT US TO ORDER....NOR WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SERVICE REPLACEMENT PHONES IN THE CASE OF A FLAW....IT WOULD BE WAY TO HARD...I WISH THEY WOULD TOO...BUT I SEE WHY THEY DONT

Posted by: evan_silbert

All the newest phones get lost in the R&D/Distribution structure- they wait so long to find something that has no problems at all and can be distributed widely, while AT&T and Cingular roll out phones every other day- just check their websites! They are not keeping up at all.

Posted by: Caligula

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt114
From the email I received:

Launch Detail:
Samsung X105 (Pearl) - Projected launch -September 5th.
Motorola V300 - Projected launch -October 15th(November 3rd for National
Retail - although we will have shipped product to them around October 15th
timeframe).

Samsung E105 (T2- replaces the S105) - Projected launch -October 3rd.
Samsung TV Phone - Projected launch -November 2003.
Samsung E715 (BSI-replaces the V205) - Projected launch -October 6th.

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/fi...r=0&act=Compare
The S300 is still superior to the E105 anyway.

Posted by: vytal

I dont see how anyone can complain a lot of these phones look pretty good, they have to choose a variety to apeal to everyone u know..

Posted by: Caligula

Quote:

Originally posted by vytal
I dont see how anyone can complain a lot of these phones look pretty good, they have to choose a variety to apeal to everyone u know..

I think that they are great phones also, but I just think that the E105 is worse than the S300, so I wish that they had carried the S300 also!

Posted by: ConceptVBS

Quote:

Originally posted by Ainvar
If the e700 was a symbian s60 phone with expandable mem I would be sold.

The SGH-D700 is the Symbian S60 with expandable mem. The "E700" is a camera phone.

Posted by: vytal

Quote:

Originally posted by Caligula
I think that they are great phones also, but I just think that the E105 is worse than the S300, so I wish that they had carried the S300 also!

yeah me too i really like the s300 :d

Posted by: sty_730

well...they will eventually have the e700 (or a variant thereof)...

Posted by: mognet

The Samsung TV phone sounds interesting but stand alone portable TVs aren't that great. So I can't imagine that a phone/TV would be very good. It'll probably be bigger than an average phone and eat up battery like crazy.

Plus the Korean TV phone I've seen still had to have that long bulky TV antennae.

Posted by: vytal

im looking forward to the samsung watch phone :P

Posted by: ConceptVBS

Quote:

Originally posted by vytal
im looking forward to the samsung watch phone :P

Europe or Asia only.

Posted by: vytal

Quote:

Originally posted by ConceptVBS
Europe or Asia only.

Boo!!! i was just kidding but that would be pretty neat i must admit, i wish i knew more about phones so i woudlnt say so much stuff that didnt make sense haha

Posted by: sempai

Quote:

all digital cameras have digital zoom. with a program like PhotoShop or GIMP.

Digital Zoom is NOT good. It stinks.

Posted by: sempai

Quote:

Originally posted by mognet
The Samsung TV phone sounds interesting but stand alone portable TVs aren't that great. So I can't imagine that a phone/TV would be very good. It'll probably be bigger than an average phone and eat up battery like crazy.

Plus the Korean TV phone I've seen still had to have that long bulky TV antennae.

Wonder if they had the foresight to hook that TV antenna to the GSM radio too.

Posted by: vytal

Quote:

Originally posted by sempai
all digital cameras have digital zoom. with a program like PhotoShop or GIMP.

Digital Zoom is NOT good. It stinks.

that may be changing http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994096

Posted by: sempai

Quote:

Originally posted by vytal
that may be changing http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994096

If you want my opinion, motors and lenses aren't digital.

That'd be optical zoom, which is great. Digital zoom still sucks.

Posted by: the9thlife

i am with t-mobile's wireless data, business servies, and technical resolution groups

the samsung sch 820 also known as the TV Phone is currently being tested and should be available in December, if not at the end of November....here's a pic of it... cost willbe approx $600 at current Korean conversion rate
http://www.pdablast.com/articles/20...s-TV-Phone.html

we are also releasing several other devices in the near future....
samsung e715 approx EOM sept
mot v300 also sept
nokia n-gage gaming system end of oct expected approx retail $300
danger sidekick tri band model in october
sony ericsson gc - 79 wireless card expect early december
htc himalayan (new version of pocket pc) mid october
a samsung blue chip (bluetooth adapter for handsets) possibly november
the nokia 6800 w/ RIM email service should be available mid october likewise
also the handspring sparrow...
early next year we are testing the samsung slider and nokia 3200 and 3300 series....
thankfully no new blackerry's for awhile i am cognizant of...

fully agree with everyone regarding the uselessness of the e and x 105's....however keep in mind that not every end user looks for a phone with all the bells and whistles so as a result a wireless provider must have various models ranging from the most basic to the most intense to cover a broad customer base with different indivdual requirements in functionality

oh nittles...yeh our network can handle the tv phone....what makes me irate is speaking with our wd counterparts in australia......they get about 384 kBPS wireless (low end broadband on a phone) and are already video conferencing...being a gsm 2.6 network has it's downfalls, but at least the fromer powertel southeast markets Ericsson based hlr's have FINALLY been upgraded beyond ver. 1.9 which will allow us to go full 3G much more expediently...and also allows nationwide functionality of the sch -x820 tv phone

Posted by: the9thlife

to clarify...i listed the tv phone specifically as sch-x820 as it's the easiest way to find the device on an online search....

Posted by: heybabyheybaby

Quote:

Originally posted by the9thlife

i am with t-mobile's wireless data, business servies, and technical resolution groups

the samsung sch 820 also known as the TV Phone is currently being tested and should be available in December, if not at the end of November....here's a pic of it... cost willbe approx $600 at current Korean conversion rate
http://www.pdablast.com/articles/20...s-TV-Phone.html

...

Impossible, is it not? SCH-### is by definition a CDMA phone, so there's no way in the world it could be used in T-Mobile. Until I hear of a specific TV phone made for GSM I would highly doubt it that something is coming as soon as November.

And what's this business about 'can our network handle the tv phone'? If you read the article you linked to you'll see that the TV signal comes in via UHF/VHF which has absolutely nothing to do with the data transmission capabilities of the cellular/wireless network.

Posted by: evan_silbert

I assume there is a GSM equivalent that has not yet been numbered or we have not yet found out the number.

Posted by: the9thlife

well i am perusing our engineering master handset testing shcedule and can tell you that today the samsung e715 was reported as having nuemrous small failures and willr eceive a new load tommorrow, however the issue with 50k mms limitation has been resolved and it can now process 100k

the testing for the tv phone is schedule to initiate tentatively sept 21st and will continue to finalization through possibly dec 21st pending errors...

if you are likewise a T-mobile employee and have Outlook global I can show you where you can find the info.....

in regards to uhf/ vhf although i ahve not personally toyed with it as of yet it appears most likely it will have one helluva large or somehow compacted internal regular tv as well as gsm antenna, jsut like the Korean version

Posted by: the9thlife

samples of the gsm version of the tv phone were received via our engineeringg roup on sept 4th which actually caused a delay in device release...

and anyone know what a samsung slider is?

Posted by: evan_silbert

Thanks for the info! Keep us in the loop....

Any idea when the e715 is slated to be released?

Posted by: the9thlife

We are currently aware of an issue with GPRS in North and South Carolina while roaming on the cingular network. No more tickets are needed at this time please refer to master ticket T000484879\0982059. No ETR at this time and the ICM will be updated shortly. This is effecting all data services (T-Zones, MMS, Internet 2 & 3, sidekicks, and blackberry’s)

Posted by: the9thlife

engineering states final firmware load of samsung 715 w/ 100k mms limitation will be sept 19th....final firmware load means it is released to retail so tentative sept 26th

there aare also a couple of updates for other devices scheduled - the nokia 3650 will have a 3660 upgrade in the works sept 30th

Posted by: the9thlife

The P800 is a flip-style GSM/GPRS color smartphone with a built-in camera. Via the Symbian OS, the phone features full organizer and multimedia capabilities, plus office functionality, including over 20 file veiwers for formats such as Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Acrobat. Other notable features include MMS, touchscreen with sytlus input, Java, and WAP 2.0 support.

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?id=119

still no word when we will release this one but i have personally configured an unsubbed one to run on our gprs network already.....nice toy

Posted by: evan_silbert

3660? So now it is TDMA? Damn Nokia and using all sorts of numbers for stupid reasons.

T-Mobile is considering sub-ing the p800? It has been so long since it came out!

Posted by: vytal

v300 = official new phone also, basically

http://www.mobile-review.com/phonem...a-v300-en.shtml

look @ lcd..

Posted by: the9thlife

actually the various companies which compose the now t-mobile USA have always been time division multiple access network....tdma versus cdma are often confused with analog/ digita analog/ gsm and are cell slotting protocols......code division networks will actually bump your call should network capacity be reached, you are next in line based on duration , and someone else places a call whereas on time division once network capacity is reached new callers get system busy errors...

i know the p800 is old, but i have been hoping for it....dubious we ever will based on handset testing info i have

Posted by: ConceptVBS

Quote:

Originally posted by the9thlife
and anyone know what a samsung slider is?

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...threadid=199116

Posted by: ConceptVBS

Quote:

Originally posted by heybabyheybaby
Impossible, is it not? SCH-### is by definition a CDMA phone, so there's no way in the world it could be used in T-Mobile. Until I hear of a specific TV phone made for GSM I would highly doubt it that something is coming as soon as November.

And what's this business about 'can our network handle the tv phone'? If you read the article you linked to you'll see that the TV signal comes in via UHF/VHF which has absolutely nothing to do with the data transmission capabilities of the cellular/wireless network.

I've seen the prototype GSM TV Phone labeled as "SGH-E705".

TV viewing on this particular phone is indepedent of the network capacity or capability of the wireless provider. This phone uses free over-the-air UHF/VHF frequencies to capture and display television. It uses no minutes from your wireless plan.

Posted by: Matt114

Quote:

Originally posted by ConceptVBS
I've seen the prototype GSM TV Phone labeled as "SGH-E705".

TV viewing on this particular phone is indepedent of the network capacity or capability of the wireless provider. This phone uses free over-the-air UHF/VHF frequencies to capture and display television. It uses no minutes from your wireless plan.

Cool! Work will be much less boring!

Posted by: halfsjj

I will be amazed if the Samsung e715 is released by October 6th. It would awesome.

Posted by: tmo4life

Does anybody now what the Sam E715 is going to be priced at?