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MagicGate Memory Duos
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Posted by: L Bo

I wanna know if anyone has the cojones' to buy and try one of these for the P900? Maybe even find a place that might let you test them.

Posted by: C-Dub

i think someone did try it out and proved that it won't work

Posted by: L Bo

Crap.

Let me guess, BengalBoy?

Posted by: sdsviet

yea i read on a post where someone was an a convention and tried the pros out and it did not work. i cant remember which one but its on this forum tho.

Posted by: L Bo

What a waste of good memory.

Posted by: tekno_geek911

I still cant believe the P900 isnt MSD Pro compatible.......Lbo is right what a waste of good memory

Posted by: sdsviet

i wonder how much money sony loss on those cards cuz us pXXX owners cant use them? hmm.....

Posted by: tekno_geek911

This and being kinda poor is keeping me from buying the P900,im trying to decide between Z600 and P800 now I guess.......Shame on you SE for limiting the P900 to 128MB!

Posted by: Xarthan

what so good about pro?

Posted by: ducsurfer

faster memory and FAT32 i think

Posted by: carsmovies

Will the MSD MagicGate 128MB work with the P900?

Posted by: sdsviet

yes

Posted by: carsmovies

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Originally posted by sdsviet
yes

Thanks. I guess that will mean that the card will be quicker than the one that came with the phone.

Posted by: rudedog

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Originally posted by carsmovies
Thanks. I guess that will mean that the card will be quicker than the one that came with the phone.

Sorry to say, no it won't. You have to format the ms as a regular ms so it's not any faster, just more $$

Posted by: carsmovies

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Originally posted by rudedog
Sorry to say, no it won't. You have to format the ms as a regular ms so it's not any faster, just more $$

What do you mean by format it. I can't just plug it in and use it? It's not really more expensive. I paid $118 CAD including tax.

Posted by: rudedog

You have to format the MS stick via the phone, takes only a couple of minutes if that

The p800/900 does not offer the benefits the magic gate is made for. Security and speed but works fine for regular p800/900 use

Posted by: carsmovies

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Originally posted by rudedog
You have to format the MS stick via the phone, takes only a couple of minutes if that

The p800/900 does not offer the benefits the magic gate is made for. Security and speed but works fine for regular p800/900 use

Well I just put it in and transferred some stuff from the internal memory to the MS and it worked fine. There was no formatting involved.

Posted by: simion_levi

A lot of people still don't seem to know what can and can't be used in a Px00, so here it is, plain and simple:

Only Duos (about 1" long) can be used, not full sized memory sticks - simply because they won't fit in the slot
Magicgate or not - it really doesn't matter. MG/non-MG can BOTH be used. Magicgate is simply a copyright protection protocol, which isn't recognised by Px00's anyhow. With Sony mp3 players etc, this stops them copying unlicenced tracks across so that they cannot be moved to more than one device at once. Magicgate has nothing whatsoever to do with transfer or access speed. They may, but usually do not, require a format before using in a Px00
Pro's will not work currently, (MG pro or Pro, either). They may never work. A firmware update at bare minimum is required to enable use of the Pro MS Duos.
The maximum size of Duo sticks (non-pro) is 128MB currently. The maximum sized stick the Px00's can recognise is 128MB. Again, firmware updates will be required to enable recognition of more than this, even if bigger MS Duo -non Pro's are made.
There are currently three colours of MS Duo - Purple, as you will have received with the handset. These are non-MG, and of course work.
There are the white sticks, which are the MG Duos - again, as long as they still aren't Pro, they will work exactly the same as the purple ones in the Px00.

There are finally the newer dark blue ones, with 'High Speed' written on them. These are simply improved regular (purple) ones, and may allow faster transfer rates in some if not all devices. Amazon.co.uk is currently shipping the 128mb High speed - and I can confirm that they too work exactly the same as the previous two in SE handsets. I anticipate that the purple duos will be phased out and the dark blue will take over

In summary - all you need is a MS Duo that is NOT Pro. Anything else currently available will work. Newer dark blue sticks may be slightly faster, but I wouldn't pay a premium for them.

Posted by: carsmovies

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simion_levi

Now that's what I call an answer. Great job.

BTW, the MSD MG that I picked up today from the Sony store was the dark blue one that claims to be much faster than the current MS's. But like Simion_Levi said it probably depends on the device using them that will determine if they will be faster.

Thanks again.

Posted by: simion_levi

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Originally posted by carsmovies
Now that's what I call an answer. Great job.

BTW, the MSD MG that I picked up today from the Sony store was the dark blue one Thanks again.

Just pulled out my 128MB dark blue High Speed Duo for another look - mine is indeed Magicgate too. I pulled it out the packaging and had it in my P900 so fast that i didn't even see that!

So the darkblue ones are actually replacements (or at least the newer version of, if they still intend to ship white MS MG Duos) for the white ones, it would appear. Thanks for noting that, carsmovies!!

Posted by: bigblk150

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Originally posted by sdsviet
i wonder how much money sony loss on those cards cuz us pXXX owners cant use them? hmm.....

Probably a lot of $$$. I know I would have bought at least a 256MB and probably a 512MB, regardless of the cost for my P800 if it worked.

As I've said in another thread regarding this, the Px00 could be a NICE replacement for mp3 players like the iPod if the capacity were there.

If one were to use OggVorbis files and the Px00 OggPlayer (which provide same quality as mp3 at approx. half the size), then a 512MB memory stick would hold the equivalent of 1GB of mp3s in OGG format.

Although these capacaties are not even close to the original 5GB iPod, I'd still consider leaving it at home in lieu of the phone I already carry around anyway.

Posted by: ukp900

I have come across a minor problem. I just bought a 128mb Sony duo card and i transferred a movie without any problems, but then i put the card in the card reader and it says "the disk is not formatted" i tried it on my laptop and its giving the same answer.

Anyways i formatted the disk on the p900 and i thought it may solve the problem, but it didnt.

What shall i do?? Please help, ive been waiting ages for this mem card