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Posted by: elmersglue

Anybody know of any good free ringtones for the 8900. if so....please post here....thanks


Posted by: elmersglue

im hearing that verizon has a block on 3rd party WAP websites that have free ringtones. Is that true? If so, which companies dont, cuz this sucks. Im not paying 2 bucks for a ringtone damn it!! haha...help me out please


Posted by: rbalt10129

I'm fairly new at the pix and txt phones..BUT, there are ways to get your ringtones for free...First go to the Verizon PIX Place. Go to Create a Message. Enter phone # to the recepient.On the left side of the screen , click on FROM PC.You should have a ringtone already saved to your pc, if not go choose one and save it to your pc now.Click BROWSE, a window will open and then select the ringtone you want to send. Then click ADD. Then send.Now, when your phone receives the message, you need to save the message in the MEDIA. Now go to SOUNDS and use the saved sounds as a ringtone..ALL FREE! Good Luck,
Ron
P.S. You also do the same for the wallpapers...


Posted by: jack13

data cable and hack that sucker =8P..... my gues at least O_o


Posted by: johnbrain666

Quote:
Originally posted by rbalt10129
I'm fairly new at the pix and txt phones..BUT, there are ways to get your ringtones for free...First go to the Verizon PIX Place. Go to Create a Message. Enter phone # to the recepient.On the left side of the screen , click on FROM PC.You should have a ringtone already saved to your pc, if not go choose one and save it to your pc now.Click BROWSE, a window will open and then select the ringtone you want to send. Then click ADD. Then send.Now, when your phone receives the message, you need to save the message in the MEDIA. Now go to SOUNDS and use the saved sounds as a ringtone..ALL FREE! Good Luck,
Ron
P.S. You also do the same for the wallpapers...


Anyone tried it with the 8900 yet? Where can I get ringtones?


Posted by: michael1060

Quote:
Originally posted by johnbrain666
Anyone tried it with the 8900 yet? Where can I get ringtones?

Just tried it with my 8900 and it works. Make sure to address the email to your phone number only - not your phone number@vzwpix.com. When I did that before, I got a text message that said to go to the site to see the attachment - not the attachment. You can download midi tones from http://tagtag.com among other places - it's just a midi file. I don't know if the ".mmf"'s at tagtag will work or not.


Posted by: michael1060

BTW: It's not totally -free-, you pay 25 cents per message recieved from vzwpix.com but, it's better than using GIN for sure. The pricing is in the FAQ's http://www.vzwpix.com/mlib/Navigate?form=faqs


Posted by: Waruwaru

You can get Midi ringtone by sending it to your phone number as stated above, but when I tried to get the monkey.png onto my phone and save the media, the phone scales the pic for some reason. Bah! I send the same png to my regular mail account, the pic is not scaled. Maybe I should try to send pics with different resolutions. Probably still need the data cable to get games onto the 8900. From what I remember, there is a 30 meg .zip file with lots of midis, floating around on the net.


Posted by: michael1060

The jpg's at tagtag.com are 174 x 132. Try using a utility like iView to resize the image http://www.irfanview.com/ (CRRL-R in iview resizes)


Posted by: rbalt10129

Quote:
Originally posted by michael1060
BTW: It's not totally -free-, you pay 25 cents per message recieved from vzwpix.com but, it's better than using GIN for sure. The pricing is in the FAQ's http://www.vzwpix.com/mlib/Navigate?form=faqs

Is this true even if you have UNLIMITED PIX and TXT Messaging? Hmmmm...
Ron


Posted by: johnbrain666

Quote:
Originally posted by michael1060
The jpg's at tagtag.com are 174 x 132. Try using a utility like iView to resize the image http://www.irfanview.com/ (CRRL-R in iview resizes)


What is the screensize for the 8900?


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by rbalt10129
Is this true even if you have UNLIMITED PIX and TXT Messaging? Hmmmm...
Ron


Then it only eats up your airtime. Verizon will get you somehow... Unless you have unlimited nights/weekends. Then it should be 'free' after 9pm on weekdays, and all weekend long.


Posted by: Zaediex

Quote:
Originally posted by johnbrain666
What is the screensize for the 8900?


160 high by 128 wide

Z...


Posted by: Zaediex

Quote:
Originally posted by Waruwaru
You can get Midi ringtone by sending it to your phone number as stated above, but when I tried to get the monkey.png onto my phone and save the media, the phone scales the pic for some reason. Bah! I send the same png to my regular mail account, the pic is not scaled. Maybe I should try to send pics with different resolutions. Probably still need the data cable to get games onto the 8900. From what I remember, there is a 30 meg .zip file with lots of midis, floating around on the net.


I've been hacking my 8900 for about a month or so, and I thought you'd be interested that you CAN use mp3 clips as ringtones. If you keep the encoding below 96kbit, and make them mono, the files end up quite small.

There's lots of discussion in the Telus forum, since Telus released the phone about a month and a half before Verizon did.

Just thought you might be interested.

Z...


Posted by: johnbrain666

Quote:
Originally posted by Zaediex
I've been hacking my 8900 for about a month or so, and I thought you'd be interested that you CAN use mp3 clips as ringtones. If you keep the encoding below 96kbit, and make them mono, the files end up quite small.

There's lots of discussion in the Telus forum, since Telus released the phone about a month and a half before Verizon did.

Just thought you might be interested.

Z...


So they do not have to be in MIDI format? Sweet. I may give it a try.

P.S. New to ringtones and images. What is a good target file size? Or are you using BIG chunks or whole songs.

I'd be using vzwpics to get them into the phone.


Posted by: CONCERTMASTER69

first post.. wow..the pressure..i already know imma F'up and say something noobish, lol

but anyways.. i just got a cdm8900..and i'm trying to add new ringtones ..i tried the method above, but i get that message telling me to go view the attachment online ..and i definitely addressed it to my phone number ..please help! thanks!

-Thomas
AIM: CONCERTMASTER69
email: atchung (at) myuw (dot) net

btw..here's the message i get:
Quote:
TEXT Massage
You've got a Picture Message! To see it, visit www.vzwpix.com/mlib/getpix/ from any computer and follow the instructions



Posted by: Zaediex

Quote:
Originally posted by johnbrain666
So they do not have to be in MIDI format? Sweet. I may give it a try.

P.S. New to ringtones and images. What is a good target file size? Or are you using BIG chunks or whole songs.

I'd be using vzwpics to get them into the phone.


Personally I like to keep them below 50k each to conserve space on the phone. However, I have had a mp3 as large as 330k working on my phone. Just ensure that you keep the encoding at 96kbit or below. There's been talk of the chipset not being able to handle something encoded at a bitrate higher than that.

Personally I usually just take a 10-15 second clip of the tune I want. The chorus, or an identifying number of bars are usually good choices. If you'd like me to post a sample, let me know and I'll post a link.

Z...


Posted by: johnbrain666

Totally. Please post a link. I'd appreciate it. Do you know if it works to transfer it to the phone using vzwpix service?

I don't have the data cable and really don't plan on gettin gone.


Posted by: elmersglue

Can someone please reply to concertmasters question. Im having the same problem, it doesnt send the song straight to my phone...it gives me the link. Even tho im sending it to my phone number. PLEASE HELP!!


Posted by: newmediabill

I first attached a MIDI file (name.mid) via VZWPIX using my 10-digit number @ vzwpix.com -- and as this thread states, only received a message telling me to go to a website (and I bought the phone with WAP for what?).

Then -- I changed the filename to name.midi, and repeated the process. IT WORKED! With the message open, I chose to save the media, and it went directly into my tones directory where I could select and use at-will.

About 8 hours elapsed between first and second test -- so either the filename meant something, or something else changed.

Good luck!


Posted by: elmersglue

cant figure out how to change file to midi...and...is there a certain setting i have to have my phone on to do this?


Posted by: Waruwaru

Well, I just send myself another ringtone, and everything seems to be fine. Here are the steps I took:
- Grabbed a midi file from the Nokia forum (dido-withmehere.zip)
- unzip file, extract the dido - here with me 3-2.mid (6127 bytes) to somewhere on your HD
- Log into vzwpix.com using phone num/password
- Click on CREATE
- Enter your phone number in the TO field (10 digits only, make sure you don't have @vzwpix.com)
- Enter some subject like "Dido"
- Click on From PC to the left of the slide
- Select the midi file you want to send. It works fine with the extension .MID
- After the file uploads, you should see a music note on your screen
- You can hit Preview to listen to the midi on your computer
- Hit the red SEND button, after a bit, you should see a "Send success" msg on computer screen
- After some time, your phone will start to "receive msg". Should see animation on the sub screen and the main screen displaying progress animation
- After it's done receiving all data, the phone will ring/vibrate to let you know a msg had arrived
- Menu -> 3 (Messaging) -> 4 (Inbox). On top of the list, you should have an unread msg with purple icon
- select the msg, and click ok
- You should hear the midi on your phone
- Menu -> 4 (Save Media), you should see the midi file, click OK
- The phone will save the midi into your gallery
- To find the midi on your phone, hit Menu->6(Media Gallery)->3(Tones). You should see all of your saved midis on screen. Scroll to each one to play/pause.
- To set the new midi as your ring tone: Menu->7(Settings)->1(Sounds)->1(Ringer Type)->1(Ringer)->Scroll left and right using keypad until you find "Downloads". Use up/down to find the midi you want, and click OK


Posted by: CONCERTMASTER69

sweet.. i got it to work ..basically, what's been left out by previous posts is that you need to have that express network service activated/programmed on your cellie ..its free ..i just called verizon cust. care and they walked me through it ..i believe all i needed to do was dial *288 send ..once i got that setup, i just went through the steps from the post right above me and it finally worked

so what other sorts of media have people been able to load onto their a-vox 8900s via this or other non-GIN methods ..if someone could just list all those types of media, that'd be great ...like it'd be sweet to d/l games onto this thing w/o having to pay GIN's outrageous prices for cdm8900 games


Posted by: michael1060

Quote:
Originally posted by CONCERTMASTER69
so what other sorts of media have people been able to load onto their a-vox 8900s via this or other non-GIN methods

Apparently .mp3's with bitrate of 96 or less are supported as ringtones. I have not tried this but I was wondering if an mp3 could be sent via vzwpix.com. Might have to rename the extension to .mid to allow the site to upload it? Still might work on the phone (depending on how it identifies the file type).


Posted by: 96proof

Will these methods work for telus cdm8900s?


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by 96proof
Will these methods work for telus cdm8900s?


You can give it a try, but I don't know if you can register on vzwpix.com if you don't have a verizon phone number...


Posted by: 96proof

ahh... yeah... is vzwpix.com the only picture messaging service avalible?


Posted by: michael1060

Quote:
Originally posted by 96proof
ahh... yeah... is vzwpix.com the only picture messaging service avalible?

Try http://www.dotphoto.com and http://www.snapfish.com/helpmobile/
They may work only with images though.


Posted by: elmersglue

for all the people that vzwpix.com doesnt work for...i finally figured it out...its cuz you dont have picture and text messaging enabled.... all you have to do is call them up..and have them enable it for you at no charge..other then the 25 cents to receive the pic. I didnt know you had to have it enabled...i would think they'd have that at the get go. Oh well...called them up and it now works..so i dont care..


Posted by: salgotit

i used this method to get ringtones, it works perfectly but i want to get this clip of a song i have, i've compressed the file to be within the 102bytes that it says is hte maximum but my phone won't download it, anyone know why? its a .wav i think that is why but i'm not sure


Posted by: michael1060

You can convert it to an .mp3 with CDex http://www.cdex.n3.net/ and give it a try. mp3's are much smaller than wav's and they apparently work as ringtones.


Posted by: KBLegolas

I tried sending a regular pic from vzwpix to my cell and it got the regular text message, but i tried the midi and its not telling me anything on my phone. What's wrong? Its how downloading anything, it's been 10 mins...


Posted by: DR.Rock

okay so this is my first post, too. i stumbled onto this forum cuz im an a** and paid lotsa cash money for GetItNow services on my phone, and got sick of it. I am very happy to find that there are people out there devoting time to fixing these kinds of problems. you guys are awesome.

first of all, i tried the above, and it worked, but it took about 15 mins. to get the message, which is unusual. i usually get messages pretty quickly. i dont know if it was the size of the file or what. (i am tachnologically inept, dont make fun) But it did work. and that rocks.

secondly, i have read a lot about the a-vox 8900 being recalled. i havent had any problems, and my only complaint about the phone are the camera options in comparison to tthe lg6000. i have also noticed that the 8900 appears to be a ghost on verizons website. they arent offering it to sell in my area anymore, and getitnow apps are slim to none. should i worry about this? whats the best course of action?

and finally, how exactly would one go about getiing MP3 ringtones?

like i said i am new, and there may be other threads that could help me out more. if so please point me in a direction.
thx.


Posted by: acf

Quote:
Originally posted by rbalt10129
Now, when your phone receives the message, you need to save the message in the MEDIA.


Don't see an option to save the message to "MEDIA". Only options are...

1) Forward
2) Save to Quick Text
3) Save to Contact
4) Block Sender
5) Lock & Unlock

Any ideas?


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by acf
Don't see an option to save the message to "MEDIA". Only options are...

1) Forward
2) Save to Quick Text
3) Save to Contact
4) Block Sender
5) Lock & Unlock

Any ideas?


You need to be "viewing" the message. If your msg isn't one of those "Please go to vzwpix.com...etc" msg, then you can hit the menu button. One of the option should be Save Media. Select that, and select the media you want to save, and hit OK. It should appear in your Media Gallery.

About the MP3 ringtone. There are people reporting that you can just put the MP3 onto the phone and use it as a ring tone. But the MP3 needs to be in some format (bitrate/channels..etc), and might possibly have to be renamed with proper extension. Do a search. If I remember correctly, I think Zaediex reported it in the Telus forum.

Good luck.


Posted by: Got VoX

Well i know nothing about my phone and when i try and download a ringtone from a wap site such as tagtag.com it tells me that that "media type is not supported i checked and it was a midi file. what is the problem here!


Posted by: SimpleCoax

I can't even get through tagtag.com on my phone, says text/html resource type not acceptable when I click enter site. Shouldn't tagtag have a different address for wml? I can't point directly to a .mid, .jpg or .png even when they're under like 6k, it always says unacceptable type. Google works fine.


Posted by: acf

Quote:
Originally posted by Waruwaru
You need to be "viewing" the message. If your msg isn't one of those "Please go to vzwpix.com...etc" msg, then you can hit the menu button. One of the option should be Save Media. Select that, and select the media you want to save, and hit OK. It should appear in your Media Gallery.

About the MP3 ringtone. There are people reporting that you can just put the MP3 onto the phone and use it as a ring tone. But the MP3 needs to be in some format (bitrate/channels..etc), and might possibly have to be renamed with proper extension. Do a search. If I remember correctly, I think Zaediex reported it in the Telus forum.

Good luck.


Thanks, got it to work, just a much longer delay than they told me before they enabled pic and text messaging.


Posted by: lindsay24

this sounds awesome, cuz as everyone said paying 2$ for ringtones is not the best,
but it seems like this is only workign for verzion customors, anybody have any luck with the telus 8900, they have no option in their "send a msg" page to add an attachment i am sooo upset, if anybody figures it out pleaseeeee post it


Posted by: DR.Rock

im guessing you HAVE to have a data cable to get the mp3 ringtones. i cant seem to trick the computer into thinking any of the ones i have tried are midi's. i downloaded the CDex software to get evrything small enough (bitrate, kb)....and its still not working out for me. if theres a way to do it without a data cable please let me know.


Posted by: CONCERTMASTER69

yet another bump, heh ..so how does one d/l an mp3 onto the 8900 via vzw pix place ...is it even possible? ..what do you have to do to the original mp3 first?


Posted by: TomFlorida

Quote:
Originally posted by Zaediex
I've been hacking my 8900 for about a month or so, and I thought you'd be interested that you CAN use mp3 clips as ringtones. If you keep the encoding below 96kbit, and make them mono, the files end up quite small.

There's lots of discussion in the Telus forum, since Telus released the phone about a month and a half before Verizon did.

Just thought you might be interested.

Z...


Zaediex... Are you uploading mp3's to the Verizon version of the phone, if so, which directory. I've tried many and can't get any of them to show up on the phone for use. I was able to get midi's to work in the MMS/OM directory. Thanx for the help!


Posted by: acf

For MP3s, how do they actually sound on the phone (regarding the speaker)? 96K is pretty good quality relatively, almost seems like overkill...even at mono you can hear the songs, etc. pretty well?


Posted by: Got VoX

Quote:
Originally posted by lindsay24
this sounds awesome, cuz as everyone said paying 2$ for ringtones is not the best,
but it seems like this is only workign for verzion customors, anybody have any luck with the telus 8900, they have no option in their "send a msg" page to add an attachment i am sooo upset, if anybody figures it out pleaseeeee post it
From what i've been reading verizon is the only carrier you can do this with.


Posted by: chewybang

has anyone using Verizon gotten to play mp3s on their phones? If so, how did you do it? Via data cable or via vzwpix.com? Also, what bitrate/hz did you use when compressing the mp3? Lastly, did you change the extension of the file from .mp3 to .midi or what? If anyone could let us know, it would rock. Thanks!


Posted by: chewybang

ah, nevermind. I got it to work. You just have to rename the file from .mp3 to .mid or .midi. It will play. And you don't have to go through www.vzwpix.com. Just email yourself from home to 9991234567@vxwpix.com (obviously, put your phone number instead) and voila!
It works with under most bitrates as long as it's smaller than 100kb (I've only gotten it to work as high as 40kbps/22,050hz and it sounds really good. You don't need it any higher than that.


Posted by: Waruwaru

Awesome info, thanks.


Posted by: acf

But...costs you .25 cents per correct to receive them?


Posted by: chewybang

I think so, plus any airtime charges. So make sure you do it during your free nights and weekends. I signed up for the unlimited picture/text msg plan (good until March) so I'm gonna upload as many ringers as possible so I don't have to do it later when it'll cost me more.


Posted by: spank

Hey there are like 500 ringtones available downloadable in a zip file so all you have to do send them to your self in an email at the yahoo group fro the cdm8900


Posted by: acf

Quote:
Originally posted by spank
at the yahoo group fro the cdm8900



Ummm, what?


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by acf
Ummm, what?


Probably http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vzw_cdm8900/


Posted by: acf

Ok, pardon my ignorance but I'm still confused about the actual from: and to: addresses needed to get that zip file on my phone. Is it like a vzwpix deal where I upload the zip from my HD then email it to my phone?


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by acf
Ok, pardon my ignorance but I'm still confused about the actual from: and to: addresses needed to get that zip file on my phone. Is it like a vzwpix deal where I upload the zip from my HD then email it to my phone?


I don't think the phone understands .zip files, plus, it is probably too big anyways. Just download the zip files to your computer. Unzip it with winzip or something. You can preview them on your computer first and send the .mid files you like to your phone via vzwpix.com or data cable.


Posted by: chewybang

Here is a great site to get free .mid ringtones for your computer:'
http://www.phunkyphones.net/polyphonic/index.asp
Here is how you can get them for free:
1. Make sure you are using Windows Media player as your default player (meaning whenever you click on a sound file, it automatically plays on Windows Media Player)
2. Click on the PLAY button for whatever ringtone you want.
3. Once the player comes up and the song starts playing, go to FILE/Save Media As..
4. Save file in your computer
5. Email the file to your phone from your computer.
6. Enjoy the tunes!


Posted by: jbroses

Just curious to know if anyone knows of a good program to edit mp3s... I want to use mp3 ringers, but I'd like to cut out a couple seconds at the beginning of songs, or just loop the chorus or whatever. A friend of mine has Sonic Foundry Soundforge, but I'm wondering if there's a smaller program that will let me do this (I don't mind having to convert to another format to do the editing).

Thanks!


Posted by: vts

Hi everyone. First of all, i'm new to these forums, so HI again Now i tried the method to get the ringtones on my Audiovox 8900 and it worked, except that ONLY .midi files work... for .mid it tells me to check my email. So i guess only .midi files work for me And my other question is, whats the time limit on ringtones? Because i transfered couple of long songs (Eiffel65-blue; and ATC - Around the world) and they only play for 30-40 seconds (i havent set them up as my ringtones, just playing them in Media Gallery.

P.S.: There's a nokia ringtones pack outthere which has LOTS of .mid files in it


Posted by: Jay5gen

for editing MP3's id recomend Sonic Foundry's... Sound Forge 6.0

its got pretty much every option you could possibly want.


Posted by: vts

Quote:
Originally posted by michael1060
BTW: It's not totally -free-, you pay 25 cents per message recieved from vzwpix.com but, it's better than using GIN for sure. The pricing is in the FAQ's http://www.vzwpix.com/mlib/Navigate?form=faqs


You know what, i just called em and they said that it only costs 2 cents to recieve the message From teh vzwpix.com It costs 25 cents to send from one phone to another


Posted by: jbroses

So I'm having trouble getting these mp3 ringers to work. Here is what I've done:

Take an mp3, edited it using Sound Forge 6.0 (tried 8 and 16kbps), converted it to mono and renamed it to .mid. I can recieve the file on my phone and save it to my media gallery, when I highlight it, no tones play. All the built-ins work fine, as do the REAL midi ringers I've sent to my phone. Maybe I have to have it as an .mp3 file to get it to play? That would require the datacalbe, as the phone strips any .mp3 attachments.

Any ideas? Have you guys done anything differently to get these to work? Could you give me the exact specs on your mp3s (length, bitrate, sample rate, file size), and whether you loaded them to the phone as a .mid or .mp3 file?

Any help is greatly appreciated!


Posted by: chewybang

I've only gotten it to work as high as 40kbps/22,050hz. The file has to be less than 100k. Maybe it HAS to be 22,050hz or less?
Try it out and see if it works. Send it from your home computer email, not www.vzwpix.com


Posted by: DoK

Hey im new to this forum but i have the 8900 and whenever i send a regular midi tone in .mid format i get a message i nthe e-mail that says it has been dropped... why is this??


Posted by: mentalbob

I sent a 40bps, 22KHz mono mp3 ('bout 86KB) through email via <my phone #>@vzwpix.com and it plays fine. I made sure to rename it to .mid before attaching of course. I also used BitPim to overwrite an existing e-mailed midi with a 64bps, 22KHz stereo ('bout 120KB) mp3 and it plays fine as well.


As an aside, if you want to emulate vibrate before ring on your CDM8900, get an mp3/midi that has some dead lead-in (like Child_of_Mine_Intro.mp3 from http://www.angelfire.com/rings/p9resource/ ). Works great! BTW, you can use CDEX to recompress an MP3 into lower bitrate/sample rates.


Posted by: CONCERTMASTER69

Quote:
I sent a 40bps, 22KHz mono mp3 ('bout 86KB) through email via <my phone #>@vzwpix.com and it plays fine. I made sure to rename it to .mid before attaching of course.


so i did this and the phone says "Failed to handle pix message" ...what am i doing wrong?


Posted by: thesublime

I sent a midi file to my phone and when I get the message I try to go and get it, but then it says recieving and a second later it says network authentication failed. What does this mean?


Posted by: jbroses

So I've been doing a LOT of experimenting with these mp3 tones, and here's what I figured out.

To email yourself ringtones, they must:

- Be less than 100 kb, the phone will display "failed to receive pix message" if it is greater than 100 kb. This also works MUCH better from regular email, as opposed to vzwpix.com, which won't let you upload some of the larger files.

- Be at least 24kbps, 22,050 Hz. My phone wouldn't play mp3s that were 20 kbps, 11,025 Hz (the next lowest setting in Sound Forge). You should also convert the files to mono, though stereo will play (supposedly just one channel, though). This gives you a max of about 33 seconds with the 100 kb limit (note: this doesn't apply if you're using the data cable, I don't think there's a limit for these).

- They must end in .mid, .mp3s get stripped and won't be received by the phone.

My phone freaks out a LOT when I'm trying to rename these files for some reason. I've had it reset on my numerous times while trying this. However, it appears dependent on the line that they're on on the screen. When renaming files on the second to last line, the phone would reset every time. When trying it on the top two lines, it was fine. One way around this is using vzwpix, which keeps the name you give the files (sending them via email always reverts the files to Ar*.mid names). Again, I presume this isn't a problem with the data cable.

One other note is that I've normalized all the mp3s to 103 db, this way they're very loud at the loudest ring setting, but don't distort too much. I've been using mp3gain http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/index.php, which is a great program, does a fantastic job of fully normalizing lots of mp3s (supposedly looks at all parts of the song rather than just adjusting the peak levels).

I continue to experiment, but feel free to ask me any questions you think I can answer.


Posted by: acf

Good job, jb. So I assume you don't have a data cable (yet)?


Posted by: jbroses

Lol! Right you are... but I saw this post http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...threadid=287790 and I may just have to get one so I can try this out. I wish there were a simple way to edit your PRL by yourself. It seems that everyone with 50113 has a blinking "Verizon Wireless" on the outside LCD (plus they can't edit thier Greeting Message), and everyone who has 50111 does not have these issues...


Posted by: johnbrain666

So I found a sing piece I like of 9 seconds. Silly me, I didn;t realize when the ring is done it DOESN'T start over as I thought. So 9 second ring then silence.

Is there a setting or is this how it works? I want it to ring until either I answer or it goes to voice mail.

Also, I found the sound quality with the above settings to be too muddy. When I tried to use a bigger piece I compressed it as above and it was muddier than the 9 second clip at a less extreme compression.

HELP!


Posted by: jbroses

As far as I know, there's no way to "loop" the ringtone you use. It seems that this is a built-in setting on the phone, and you'll notice that none of their ring tones do any looping either. The reason I used such low quality settings was so I could get a ring that was at least 20 seconds or so. They sound OK on my phone, though obviously not CD quality .

I think the easiest way around these limitations are to use the data cable to upload the files. That way they can be however large and whatever quality you want. From what I've heard, this would actually be the best way to upload ringtones.


Posted by: johnbrain666

Wouldit accept a larger file size if I emailed it to my phone @vzwpix.com instead of using vzwpix website? Maybe I could send a larger file?


Posted by: jbroses

The limit for using vzwpix is 102,400 bites (this translates to 100kb) according to their error messages. That said, vzwpix has refused MANY of my files under this limit (even some around 80kb get refused). The limit when sending it to yourphone#@vzwpix.com is somewhat larger, though I haven't had any success sending a file over 100 kb this way.

The only advantage of using vzwpix to send the files is that file names are preserved. When using a regular email client, the files are renamed to Ar#, and I've experienced phone restarting problems when trying to rename them. There are ways to get around it (send several "dummy" files until the file you want to rename is on one of the top two lines of the screen, these seem to rename fine). Otherwise, I'd reccomend not using vzwpix, it's a pain.


Posted by: johnbrain666

VZW referred me to VOX who said it would work but it didn't. Oh well, I used a lower compression. not great but better thanthe ringtones on the phone.


Posted by: plantroller

Quote:
Originally posted by SimpleCoax
I can't even get through tagtag.com on my phone, says text/html resource type not acceptable when I click enter site. Shouldn't tagtag have a different address for wml? I can't point directly to a .mid, .jpg or .png even when they're under like 6k, it always says unacceptable type. Google works fine.


I also have this problem. I am not able to get to tagtag.com becuse it tells me my resource type is not accessible. I have cellular one and the vox cdm8900

Any help greatly appreciated


Posted by: Waruwaru

Using my own WAP gateway, I was able to connect to Tagtag.com most of the time, but still can't download stuff. Get those darn content type not supported errors.

Looking through OpenWave.com, I tend to believe Verizon had disabled direct web download. I think we might have to go through their "Download Fun" to be able to download/save anything.


Posted by: vts

when i try to connect to it, i get the message saying "The rsource type 'text/htmll' is not present in the client acceptable media types set. [http://tagtag.com/index1.php?seshid=QBYdMdSICYAAXhGtRk]


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by vts
when i try to connect to it, i get the message saying "The rsource type 'text/htmll' is not present in the client acceptable media types set. [http://tagtag.com/index1.php?seshid=QBYdMdSICYAAXhGtRk]


Try to change your WAP gateway. I had problems with Waptunnel. Switching over to my own gateway solved the problem. But you still can't download anything using the 8900...

But if you prove me wrong, please let me know.


Posted by: johnbrain666

Quote:
Originally posted by Waruwaru
Try to change your WAP gateway. I had problems with Waptunnel. Switching over to my own gateway solved the problem. But you still can't download anything using the 8900...

But if you prove me wrong, please let me know.


how hard is it to set up yor own gateway? Some of the threads kind of scare me. Also, will your own gateway save cookies to allow you to use hotmail?


Posted by: vts

set ... up ... my ... own ... wap ... gate ... way ...? eh?


Posted by: acf

Has anyone posted any instructions on uploading .mp3 tones via the cable and bitpim? Where to (dir)? How big? How many? What to name them? Any pitfalls to look out for? My meager searches have not turned up much. If not, that would be GREATLY appreciated.


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by johnbrain666
how hard is it to set up yor own gateway? Some of the threads kind of scare me. Also, will your own gateway save cookies to allow you to use hotmail?


The WAP3GX isn't so hard. Run Windows installer program. Run it after it is installed. If you are behind a firewall, open a hole. Voila. Not too bad. I havn't tried Hotmail though. Only problem is WAP3GX is a 30 day trial.


Posted by: johnbrain666

how do you open a hole? How much is the software afrer 30 day trial?


Posted by: acf

Quote:
Originally posted by chewybang
ah, nevermind. I got it to work. You just have to rename the file from .mp3 to .mid or .midi. It will play. And you don't have to go through www.vzwpix.com. Just email yourself from home to 9991234567@vxwpix.com (obviously, put your phone number instead) and voila!
It works with under most bitrates as long as it's smaller than 100kb (I've only gotten it to work as high as 40kbps/22,050hz and it sounds really good. You don't need it any higher than that.


I don't have Sound Forge yet so the .mp3 I'm testing is 128k bitrate but I shaved it down to under 100k in size and sent it from my work address. It goes out but never reaches my phone. Any ideas?

And when you say rename, I assume you mean before you send it and not after its recieved in the phone and saved in the Media Gallery?


Posted by: acf

Ok, I am now getting the emails that I send from my PC but they all show up with "attachment dropped" whether its named .mid, .midi, or .mp3 and regardless of size.


Posted by: acf

Not sure this could be any more flaky.

I finally got it to work by emailing a 128k bitrate file size of 96k with extension .mid from a different email address. I didn't get any notification of any droppage on this end but...Anyway, it played like crap initially but after I saved it and set it as a ringer its loud and clear. I'll keep on testing...

Thanks for sharing this fun with me today.


Posted by: acf

Quote:
Originally posted by mentalbob
I also used BitPim to overwrite an existing e-mailed midi with a 64bps, 22KHz stereo ('bout 120KB) mp3 and it plays fine as well.


I'm currently playing with this as well. I've gotten a file about that size to work at 128 Kbps actually but I jumped to about 300KB in size and dropped down to 80 Kbps bitrate and it won't play on my phone. Simply no sound when you select it. Next I'll try 64 Kbps like yours above, that may be the limit at that size, dunno? What encoder did you use to change the samplerate? CDEX only seems to encode that with 3 options (48000, 44100, and 32000) with the default encoder, however there are a bunch of encoders to chose from otherwise...


Posted by: x22

I have tried the above procedures several times with no success. I get the message on the phone which says you have received a picture message and go to vzwpix.com to view it. I can not seem to get the midi to show up right. Is there anything that has to be enabled on the phone for this to work properly? I just received the phone today.


Posted by: mentalbob

Yes. You have to make sure that Verizon has enabled picture messaging on your phone. Time to call *611


Posted by: x22

is there a charge for picture messaging?


Posted by: mentalbob

$.25 per message received (and sent) *or* 4.99/month for unlimited picture/ringtone messages.


Posted by: x22

thanks.. working now.


Posted by: gfoley13

hey guys thanks for the help. I have had some success loading mp3s on my 8900 but.. I can't do any of the encoding myself.

The only way i get mp3s on my phone is to download them already a bad quality (96 kbps) and the trim them

I cant figure out why my encoding causes problems

I have a mac so I can't use sound forge or anything. I have been using itunes which has most of the features I think. I can edt: 1) Kbps 2) kHz 3) and whether it is mono

So... i am not sure why me encoding the files causes them to not play on my phone but any help would be appreciated.


Posted by: DR.Rock

make sure you change the .MP3 to .mid or .midi. i made that mistake a lot thinking i had everything done, but alas i did not. you also wanto make sure you are keeping the songs themselves under 10kb, anything below that is fair game. thats the best troubleshooting advice ive got for ya!


Posted by: lopester02

When you use the vzwpix option and send it to your phone.......can you send more then one file at a time to cut down on the cost.........if so does it lose quality at all ?


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by lopester02
When you use the vzwpix option and send it to your phone.......can you send more then one file at a time to cut down on the cost.........if so does it lose quality at all ?


Yes, you can send multiple files in one shot.

I don't know about ringtones, but I think when you send pix from the website, the website does some conversions (to smaller files maybe). But I think if you send your stuff from your email client (Outlook Express for example), then the file stays the same. Just email it to <your number>@vzwpix.com


Posted by: iamaustin

I sent myself a message from vzwpix.com with a midi attached, but i still havent gotten it on my phone. it has been like an hour.

Anyone got any suggestions?


Posted by: lopester02

I am having trouble sending mp3's to my phone, can ne one post some directions step by step please........i have sent it o my phone and the attachment shows up but it says there is nothing there, ive sent it through vzwpix.com and two other mail services but same nothing has came up.........also is there ne free services for mp3 to midi converters


Posted by: FunkMonk010

It seriously has been posted... but I can't find anything under "mp3" as well. So, whatever.

1) Get "SoundForge"... any version.
2) Load and crop an mp3 of your choice into the program. Make it about 20-30 seconds. The higher quality you want, the shorter you want the ringtone to be.
3) Blend both channels into mono.
4) Export as 32-42kbps mp3 (depending on your cropping). You want to end up with an mp3 that's under 110kb.
5) Get the program "Mp3 GAIN"
6) Use mp3gain and up the output to about 96-100 dB. I use 96.
7) Rename the file to "whatevernameyouwant.mid" The .mid part is important.
8) Email your cell phone (not through vzwpix.com - they have some weird compression) the .mid file as an attatchment.
9) Once you recieve the "pix message" save the media as whatever you want. It should show up as something like ar1.mid or ar5.mid (depending on how many saved tones you already have). You can, of course, rename the file whatever you want.
10) Enjoy. And search more.

There... that's the basic way that works perfectly for me, everytime.


Posted by: mystupidmoth

I'm signed up for unlimited pix, so I know this should work for me...

My e-mails to my phone are not going through! They are not going through from the website OR my e-mail address...though, I can send from my phone okay, and i can send from the website to my e-mail okay...my phone just isn't receiving anything!

Anyone know what's up with this?


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by mystupidmoth
I'm signed up for unlimited pix, so I know this should work for me...

My e-mails to my phone are not going through! They are not going through from the website OR my e-mail address...though, I can send from my phone okay, and i can send from the website to my e-mail okay...my phone just isn't receiving anything!

Anyone know what's up with this?


If you can send but not receive on your 8900. Call customer service. They fixed my problem (exactly the same) with some fiddling on their computer


Posted by: Thena

Ok so Ive learned how to send myself the ringtones after saving them. My question is what if the website has its own player so I dont use the media player on my computer to play the ringtones? If i try to save it, it comes up as a downloaded webpage. How do I save just the songs?


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by Thena
Ok so Ive learned how to send myself the ringtones after saving them. My question is what if the website has its own player so I dont use the media player on my computer to play the ringtones? If i try to save it, it comes up as a downloaded webpage. How do I save just the songs?


Huh? Not sure what you mean. Whether you can "see" it or not, the music is ALWAYS played from some sort of "player" on your computer. If you hear some music you like on a web page, then you need to find the "URL" for the song, and use that to save your song. For example, this page has music playing. Right click on the player, and select Properties, then you can see the URL for the MIDI (music) file is http://midimusic.miningco.com/libra...es/peruvian.mid

If you save the entire web page, then in the same folder, search for *.mid, or *.midi, that is the file you want to send to your phone. If you double click on it, you should be able to hear it.


Posted by: Thena

I went to a website that has ringtones you can download. I saw earlier that if you click on the song to play it you can go to file and save as a midi file. Thats if youre using the windows media or whatever its called. I went to a site and when it opens the ringtone it doesnt use my computer's media player but one from the website. I tried to click on it and do the properties thing but I didnt have a properties option when I did click on it. I'm so lost. At this point I wouldnt mind using GIN if the ringtones and wallpaper I wanted were even available for my phone. Do you think as they come out with software upgrades more ringtones will be available on GIN?


Posted by: Waruwaru

Quote:
Originally posted by Thena
I went to a website that has ringtones you can download. I saw earlier that if you click on the song to play it you can go to file and save as a midi file. Thats if youre using the windows media or whatever its called. I went to a site and when it opens the ringtone it doesnt use my computer's media player but one from the website. I tried to click on it and do the properties thing but I didnt have a properties option when I did click on it. I'm so lost. At this point I wouldnt mind using GIN if the ringtones and wallpaper I wanted were even available for my phone. Do you think as they come out with software upgrades more ringtones will be available on GIN?


I still don't know 100% what you are talking about. Maybe you should post a link here for us to see the musical website? Sometimes, the webpage contains the media player, it just doesn't look like your normal media player. Also, I am afraid sometimes, you just wouldn't be able to copy the songs anyways.

I am sure eventually, they will let you pay money to get ringtones. Right now, you can buy pictures using GIN (pictastation or something like that?)


Posted by: Thena

lol ok i'll see if i can find the link. and i dont have pictastation either or whatever it is. the only thing i have for wallpaper is something about celebrities and sports info.


Posted by: Thena

ok here's the link i think. i wanted to get the top 2. is there anything I can do about these?

http://ringophone.com/results.asp?s...dex=0&type=poly


Posted by: Thena

ok i'm a retard forget it. i figured it out. sorry.


Posted by: snostud

Ok so i went and registered at vzwpix.com and i uploaded the ring tones from my computer i have sent it as my number@vzwpics and i have tried sending it just as my number. either way i get a msg to go to www.vzwpix.com to recieve my new pix msg. Any one else have this problem and was able to figure it out? I am able to email to my phone without any problems by using my number@vtext.com but i tried it with an attachment and that didnt allow me to hear the attachment let alone save it. Any help?


Posted by: snostud

I have also tried it with my number@vzwpix.com and nothing happens.


Posted by: UNKNOWN_MEMBER

When I try to open up the file, it doesn't play a song. It just says that I have a picture and to view it I have to go to this one website. Please help?


Posted by: acf

Do you have pic and text messaging enabled on your phone? Its free and you have to call Verizon to get it.


Posted by: snostud

Ya thanks i called them two time and asked the first time it it was activated on my account and the girl was like huh text messaging whats that ? explained it to her and she was like do you have a camera phone and was like well then you have picture and txt msging . called the second time and the guy fixed it immeadiatly.


Posted by: cantcme

Like gfoley, i also have a mac and i am having problems with the encoding part. The file has been renamed o .mid, the bit rate is 40kb, the sample bit rate is 44.1 khz, and the size is 80kb, but the file still wont play on the phone. I think it may have something to do with the sample bit rate, or i may just need an audio editing program. Does anyone know what the problem is? If so please help.

Thanx


Posted by: jkayner

Here's the catch with using vzwpix.com, You can send any size file through your e-mail to the phone#@vzwpix.com, but their site has a size limit of 100k. Any attatchment bigger than this and they cut it off from your message. You also have to make sure that on your ocmputer, you look at the "size on disk" and not just the "size" of the file. Sometimes the size will be below 100k, but the actual size on the disk is over 100k. When i tried sending files say 150k i would get the message on the phone, but would never be able to dl the sound to the phone. I redid the files to make them smaller (either using less length of the song, or using a lower bitrate) and it comes through fine. If you have a cable, i don't think you have a file size limit.

The tool i found works the best is a program called audio converter. Do a search on google and you can find some downloads for it. It's shareware, but has a 30 day trial for free. It allows you to cut any section of an MP3, then encode it at any bitrate you want. I can usually get about 10-15 seconds of a song using 56 bitrate and keep it below 100k.


Posted by: PullinBreezy

Hey
I do not have verizon but i have a cdm8900 and want to kno how 2 get ringtones in .mid and .mp3... please help me
thanks


Posted by: Skyfox16

i have tried sending ringtones with mid midi and mp3 extensions from the vzwpic place online, and threw my regular email, when i get the txt on my phone it seems like the file i attached isnt even there, or it says that the file was dropped, or that there was no object to save .

any suggestions or help???

thanks!!


Posted by: jkayner

did you read my message above? or any of this thread? there are different ways of doing it any it workd for most people here. Everyhting you need is already listed in this thread...


Posted by: Devileyezz

Damn! tagtag.com saves our audio files in the sound clips folder, and not the ringtones folder. And I have no clue how to make it work as a ringtone.

Anyone who can help us technically challenged TELUS users using CDM-8900, please step forward. I'll take you for a movie, dammit!


Posted by: SyphiliS

thats what i've been saying, with telus i think its impossible to have custom ringtones without a data cable, i have 6 mp3 soundclips, but it wont allow me to make them RINGTONES!!!


Posted by: Devileyezz

This sucks.


Posted by: SyphiliS

sucks large balls, i bought the data cable off ebay though, was hard to find someone who sends to toronto that doesnt charge a rediculous amount with shipping, will cost about 25 canadian after shipping


Posted by: Devileyezz

I still have about 20 days to make a choice between LG 5450 and AudioVox CDM-8900 (My current)


Posted by: SyphiliS

personally i like the 8900 better, my sister has 5450, the 5450 doesnt come with the leather case or the flash kit, which is fairly homosexual if you ask me.. i also like the blue lights on the sides that flash when you recieve an incoming call, matches my blue antenna, but its all a matter of opinion..

anyways, peace


Posted by: PullinBreezy

Hi I have a data cable but i dont know what software 2 use 2 edit the mp3s or wut software 2 use 2 get it on the phone


Posted by: acf

Seriously?


Posted by: Devileyezz

I only don't know how good compared to the 8900, is the LG5450 in

a) Reception
b) Picture quality.

Otherwise, I'm completely satisfied with the 8900. It's not as bulkier as the 5450, and it has a leather case (sans flash). And so far, the reception has been O.K. Picture quality is impressive - I'll only know once I compare them (8900 and 5450). And unfortunately, I don't have a big friend's circle here in TO, neither a friend who owns a 5450.

And yes, the blue lights on the side are sexy. I'm sure I'll like the blue antenna (Does it have a light too? I mean, does it blink the way those side lights do?) Where do you get one for? Is it sturdy?

I'd like such lighted accessories; partly because I work at a club. And neither a vibrator, nor the ringer will help me realise there's an incoming call. But a bright light will catch my attention, and a coupla other girls' too.


PullinPreezy: Dude, you need to use the search button on the top right corner. Those threads discussing about cables and softwares are so many, that I'm sick of 'em.


Posted by: samsungBen

I have no problem downloading the ringtones.. but they are in the sound clip folder.. and i cant assign them as tones... just in pic messages.. is there a way around this??
i found the best way to get a mp3 ringtone is...
1) convert the mp3 to a wave.
2) trim it down.
3)save the wav as: PCM 44.100... 16bit mono.
3)encode into mp3 format. 32kbps mono.
rename the file to a .mid


hope it helps


Posted by: acf

Quote:
Originally posted by samsungBen
I have no problem downloading the ringtones.. but they are in the sound clip folder.. and i cant assign them as tones... just in pic messages.. is there a way around this??
i found the best way to get a mp3 ringtone is...
1) convert the mp3 to a wave.
2) trim it down.
3)save the wav as: PCM 44.100... 16bit mono.
3)encode into mp3 format. 32kbps mono.
rename the file to a .mid


hope it helps


Are you doing this with the cable? If so, you don't need to convert/rename the .mp3 files. Just overwrite.


Posted by: samsungBen

nope no cable.. I will need one though... I thought I was on top of the whole thing. I was hoping that I could use the 'sound clips' for ringtones, but thats not the case. Where can i get a data cable, or is there any other way to use the clips as tones..

Thanks


Posted by: Zaediex

Quote:
Originally posted by samsungBen
nope no cable.. I will need one though... I thought I was on top of the whole thing. I was hoping that I could use the 'sound clips' for ringtones, but thats not the case. Where can i get a data cable, or is there any other way to use the clips as tones..

Thanks


You cannot assign a sound clip to a ringtone, nor can you download an image without the browser reducing the image so that there's a border around the image. I can't remember off hand what it shinks the image down to, but it's something like 120x130.

Anyways, there's plenty of posts in this forum about cables. Just use the search button to locate the one regarding 20 dollar LG cables.

Z...


Posted by: acf

Quote:
Originally posted by Zaediex
You cannot assign a sound clip to a ringtone, nor can you download an image without the browser reducing the image so that there's a border around the image. I can't remember off hand what it shinks the image down to, but it's something like 120x130.

Z...


Z, I'm a little confused what you mean here. Does ringtone="Ringer type->Ringer" on the phone? I use .mp3 clips (from "Downloads") for that. Meaning, those are my incoming ringers when someone calls.

And the border (of the wallpaper) is of no consequence to me as I think its barely noticeable compared to that ×××× "time box".

Or maybe I'm missing what you are saying completely...?


Posted by: Zaediex

Quote:
Originally posted by acf
Z, I'm a little confused what you mean here. Does ringtone="Ringer type->Ringer" on the phone? I use .mp3 clips (from "Downloads") for that. Meaning, those are my incoming ringers when someone calls.

And the border (of the wallpaper) is of no consequence to me as I think its barely noticeable compared to that ×××× "time box".

Or maybe I'm missing what you are saying completely...?


We're talking about features offered by different providers.

Telus has the directories laid out differently then Verizon. On the Telus phones you can point the minibrowser to a web url and download the media file into "Sound Clips". However, the "Sound Clips" file cannot be assigned to a ringer. Furthermore, Telus doesn't do the clock readout the same way Verizon has it set up on their version of the 8900.

Currently Telus does not have a setup similar to the one Verizon does where you can email your phone number to SMS media on to the handset.

Hope that clears things up.

Z...


Posted by: SyphiliS

well i disagree,i can email my cell phone ringtones, but yeah its a soundclip not a ringtone

send an email to the phone and attach a ringtone, it works

phonenumber@mms.telusmobility.com


Posted by: acf

Quote:
Originally posted by Zaediex
We're talking about features offered by different providers.

Telus has the directories laid out differently then Verizon. On the Telus phones you can point the minibrowser to a web url and download the media file into "Sound Clips". However, the "Sound Clips" file cannot be assigned to a ringer. Furthermore, Telus doesn't do the clock readout the same way Verizon has it set up on their version of the 8900.

Currently Telus does not have a setup similar to the one Verizon does where you can email your phone number to SMS media on to the handset.

Hope that clears things up.

Z...


Got it thanks. I only use the cable for any of it except to initally get some clips on the phone via email.

And someone mentioned that if you email your phone via personal address that its only 5 cents. Not true. That also is 25 cents. Just got my bill.



Posted by: Zaediex

Quote:
Originally posted by SyphiliS
well i disagree,i can email my cell phone ringtones, but yeah its a soundclip not a ringtone

send an email to the phone and attach a ringtone, it works

phonenumber@mms.telusmobility.com


Okay, you contradicted yourself in the same sentance.

If it gets saved as a sound clip, and you can't assign it as a ringtone, then how is it the same as the service Verizon offers that allows you to use the media you MMS yourself?

Z...


Posted by: PullinBreezy

hey i have a data cable and am not sure how 2 use it 2 get ringtones... i do not have verizon i have cellular south which doesnt have picture messanging and for some reason bitpim doesnt want 2 work with my phone... please help me


Posted by: grkness

how would i send a 89k mp3 to my phone to use as ringtone by using my data cable? what directory would i put png backgrounds in using data cable as well? or is this not possible


Posted by: cellebrite

I've followed the directions to a tee, but everytime I try to get the .mid file from either pix place or emailed from a regular email to yournumber@vzwpix.com it says "Failed to handle pix message" on my phone when I try and open it.


This is with regular unmodified .mid files, I have not even attempted the mp3 thing yet. any suggestions?

thanks


Posted by: rook

Call Verizon and have them activate pix messaging for you. This will fix your issue.

RooK

Quote:
Originally posted by cellebrite
I've followed the directions to a tee, but everytime I try to get the .mid file from either pix place or emailed from a regular email to yournumber@vzwpix.com it says "Failed to handle pix message" on my phone when I try and open it.


This is with regular unmodified .mid files, I have not even attempted the mp3 thing yet. any suggestions?

thanks



Posted by: cellebrite

that was not the problem- it was already added.

I got around this by also sending a picture with the ringtone in the same pix message. Strange but true, hopefully some one else will find this info useful.

Quote:
Call Verizon and have them activate pix messaging for you. This will fix your issue.



Posted by: netsolo

Quote:
Originally posted by cellebrite
I've followed the directions to a tee, but everytime I try to get the .mid file from either pix place or emailed from a regular email to yournumber@vzwpix.com it says "Failed to handle pix message" on my phone when I try and open it.


This is with regular unmodified .mid files, I have not even attempted the mp3 thing yet. any suggestions?

thanks


Sorry, here comes the newbie first post but I'm in the same boat and have combed the HowardForums for advice only to find that most of the solutions don't work.

The phone is able to receive pictures from the vzwpix.com service but when I attach any raw MIDI file, no matter what kHz, file size, mono/stereo if it's from tagtag.com or from my personal MIDI collection- ALL of them come up on the 8900 as "Failed to handle pix message."

A call into Verizon to make sure I was subscribed to tech support and a description of the problem resulted in them telling me, "We only support files from our vzwpix.com gallery."

Which brings me to the kooky part--- VZW's midi files from their "Gallery" work.

I just purchased the phone friday night- maybe they've found a way for you not to send yourself non-Verizon midi files? What are the difference between their MIDI and one from tagtag.com?


Posted by: aovsi

Quote:
Originally posted by cellebrite
I've followed the directions to a tee, but everytime I try to get the .mid file from either pix place or emailed from a regular email to yournumber@vzwpix.com it says "Failed to handle pix message" on my phone when I try and open it.


This is with regular unmodified .mid files, I have not even attempted the mp3 thing yet. any suggestions?

thanks


I have the same problem. When I attempt to read the mail received, it says "Failed to play pix message".

Quote:
Originally posted by cellebrite
that was not the problem- it was already added.

I got around this by also sending a picture with the ringtone in the same pix message. Strange but true, hopefully some one else will find this info useful.


I tried adding a picture (same picture that I snapped and sent with the phone to my e-mail) and .mid file to the same e-mail, but it didn't work for me.

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Anyone else went through similar problems and found the solution, or knows what's wrong?


Posted by: cellebrite

the picture I attached was already loaded on the vzwsite gallery, I uploaded the .mid files from PC when it asks from where to attach the files on vzwpix.com. maybe that makes a difference.

later I attached 1 picture to 6-7 .mid files in 1 shot and sent it to myself.

I still cannot email myself a file and have it work which is weird. I want to get some mp3 files on there and VZW's limit is 104K


Posted by: acf

Seems it must be named .mid and be under 100k to email it even from a personal address to phone#@vzwpix.com


Posted by: kirksucks

Quote:
Originally posted by iamaustin
I sent myself a message from vzwpix.com with a midi attached, but i still havent gotten it on my phone. it has been like an hour.

Anyone got any suggestions?


me too, first i emailed a .gif from yahoo to myphonenum@vzwpix.com and waited.... then i regisetered to vzwpix.com and send a .gif to mynumber (no @pix.com) and waited... still waiting its been a while and nothing. im pretty sure i have pixmessaging or whatever enabled .. ive sent pix to my GF's phone and its worked.. she is on MY plan. so what gives?

how long does it take.. i started simple with a gif to see if it would even work before i go into mp3s and midi stuff..

if i can get this to work it will be rad... GIN is a rip off and the tones all sound like accordians.


Posted by: kirksucks

Quote:
Originally posted by rbalt10129
go to the Verizon PIX Place. Go to Create a Message. Enter phone # to the recepient.On the left side of the screen , click on FROM PC....Then send.Now, when your phone receives the message, you need to save the message in the MEDIA. Now go to ... use the saved ... as a ringtone..ALL FREE! Good Luck,
Ron
P.S. ...You also do the same for the wallpapers...


HOW DO I DO THIS? i have no option for save to media, my phone is able to get text and pix messages. ive sent from yahoo and vzwpix.com using my number@vzwpix and @vtext and used just the number. the first 2 times i didnt even get the messages then i got a text mesage then i got a message saying go to vzwpix for our attachment.

*611 suggested using @vtext and said i could use the gif as a wallpaper.. that didnt work then i called 611 again and the lady said you cant send pix to use on your phone from anywhere other than another phone.

so WTF? am i missing a step here.. this seems simple and if i have to use a cable forget it.


Posted by: aovsi

Quote:
Originally posted by kirksucks
HOW DO I DO THIS? i have no option for save to media, my phone is able to get text and pix messages. ive sent from yahoo and vzwpix.com using my number@vzwpix and @vtext and used just the number. the first 2 times i didnt even get the messages then i got a text mesage then i got a message saying go to vzwpix for our attachment.

*611 suggested using @vtext and said i could use the gif as a wallpaper.. that didnt work then i called 611 again and the lady said you cant send pix to use on your phone from anywhere other than another phone.

so WTF? am i missing a step here.. this seems simple and if i have to use a cable forget it.


Go here: http://www.vtext.com/customer_site/...egister_mml.jsp , register by following very simple instructions. Send pix messages via http://www.vzwpix.com , or send messages to YOURPHONENUMBERWITHAREACODE@vzqpix.com .


Posted by: kirksucks

Quote:
Originally posted by aovsi
Go here: http://www.vtext.com/customer_site/...egister_mml.jsp , register by following very simple instructions. Send pix messages via http://www.vzwpix.com , or send messages to YOURPHONENUMBERWITHAREACODE@vzqpix.com .



not to sound snooty.. but i DID that. read my post.

again i ask.. wheres the save to media option.. and is there a step im missing?

thanks.


Posted by: aovsi

Quote:
Originally posted by kirksucks
not to sound snooty.. but i DID that. read my post.

again i ask.. wheres the save to media option.. and is there a step im missing?

thanks.


If your ringtone plays when you read the message, there should be a 'Menu' option obove left upper button.


Posted by: kirksucks

Quote:
Originally posted by aovsi
If your ringtone plays when you read the message, there should be a 'Menu' option obove left upper button.


thanks.. the problem was...my phone was always pix message enabled or whatever.. but something messed up with it.. so i had to call and have them re-do it for me. so now it works..

sorry for the snooty... i was just frustrated.

now to get tones!

i had another question about recording voice with my phone and using it as a ringtone.. how do i do that? is it possible?


Posted by: aovsi

Quote:
Originally posted by kirksucks
...

i had another question about recording voice with my phone and using it as a ringtone.. how do i do that? is it possible?


Use some program to record your voice and save it as .mp3 file. Make sure the file stays under about 100KB (I managed to send myself a file which was 99.5KB, over 100KB and the file would be dropped, and won't play from the pix message).

Rename the .mp3 file's extension to .mid before sending. Use your own e-mail to send the file as well.

I recorded the regular ringtone of my CDM9000 and sent it to myself. Had to mess with the recording quite a bit--insert dead silence to cut down on file size and such. Also, you might have to settle for lower quality in order to keep the file under 100KB.


Posted by: ArkiesPrincess

Hey there guys... Im new here (obviously). I just wanted to find out something.... Ive been checking out your forums and its full of good info but I need some help..... is there anywhere to get free ringtones for the audiovox 8500? Ive gotten a couple but they were 2$ each and they kinda sounded crappy.... Any info is greatly appreciated!


Posted by: ArkiesPrincess

I saw somewhere that someone had posted a site www.tagtag.com and i went there and cant figure out how to get it sent to my phone. (my old phone is a nokia... so easy to use!) I just got this one last night so Im still iffy with the controls of it but I did get the voice recognition to work, hands free, the background color, etc. Thanks again!


Posted by: kirksucks

Quote:
Originally posted by netsolo
The phone is able to receive pictures from the vzwpix.com service but when I attach any raw MIDI file, no matter what kHz, file size, mono/stereo if it's from tagtag.com or from my personal MIDI collection- ALL of them come up on the 8900 as "Failed to handle pix message."


i thought mine was able to get pix messages too.. and it WAS... but something messed up.. so the ver rep on *611 said they could re-put the pix messaging on... and then it worked... ask them to re install it or whatever.

i can send .gifs and .mids to 03984721039@vzwpix.com to my phone from yahoo... and save to media no problem now.

althought through vzwpics website the animated gifs werent animated after they got to my phone.

anyone know of more mp3 ringers other than whats on yahoogroups?


Posted by: acf

http://3gtonez.com/index.php


Posted by: kirksucks

ok so i know I should be able to do this by now.. i got pix to work no prob, i got ringers to work... but my prob now is MAKING ringers that work.

Im using nero (its all i got)
I've saved a file thats about 22 secs long.
made it 8000hz
made it 8 bit (is that kbps?)

these are the lowest settings and was the only way to keep it under 100kb. and it sounds pretty good still.

set to mono

so the file is 68kb and renamed it .mid sent it to my phone and it said "Failed to handle pix message"

what am i doing?

ive never edited m3s before and im learning nero wave editor on the fly.


Posted by: acf

Here's one I know works, give it a shot.

http://66.20.174.5/happy3.mid


Posted by: kirksucks

Quote:
Originally posted by acf
Here's one I know works, give it a shot.

http://66.20.174.5/happy3.mid


thanks man.. but I've got a ton of mp3 ringers that others have made to work... i just cant get the ones i make work..

ok so i made one thats like 7 secs long

22050 hz

24 bit

mono

file size is 68k

and it worked.. but whenever i try to make one thats a descent length the file size is too big at 22050 and 24bit.


Posted by: acf

Weird, pretty much any I make under 100k have worked. I've used all sort of bitrates and sample rates. Dunno.

With a cable, they all work under ~150k.


Here's the program I use to hack 'em if you're interested...
http://66.20.174.5/cdex_151.exe


Posted by: kirksucks

Quote:
Originally posted by acf
Weird, pretty much any I make under 100k have worked. I've used all sort of bitrates and sample rates. Dunno.

With a cable, they all work under ~150k.


Here's the program I use to hack 'em if you're interested...
http://66.20.174.5/cdex_151.exe


thanks man.. i think i got it.. under save as in nero theres an "options" button and for some reason the default is 56k bit/22050hz mono... so if i select 24k bit/22050hz mono and save it the file size is way lower..

i just made one 30 or so seconds and it works on my phone!!


funny that I'm doing this to try and avoid paying $2 on GIN and ive probably spent way more screwing around with this trying to make it work.


Posted by: acf

Heh, why pay money to those vultures and take the easy way out?


Posted by: danlk2

hi first post for me , um i have a problem when sending the file, if i send it through hotmail it says cannot open pix image or something like that and when i send it through outlook i just get a blank email to my phone
Attachment
Dropped:
<winmail.dat>of type: <application/ms-tnef; o name="winmail.dat">


Posted by: acf

Call Verizon to enable pix and text messaging...


Posted by: danlk2

will it cost anything just to enable it?


Posted by: acf

No, just 25 cents per email/message sent.


Posted by: danlk2

can someone im me on aim danlk2 and send it to my phone just like they did to theirs because i cant get it to work at all, or if someone can just come on and help me? thanks


Posted by: acf

You get pix and text messaging enabled yet?


Posted by: danlk2

i went to verizon and the guy said since i had a picture phone its automatically activated so i have no idea what top do now?


Posted by: acf

Call Verizon support instead. The store rep told me the same thing, not true.


Posted by: ArkiesPrincess

Id really appreciate some help on getting diff ringtones also. I myself do NOT want to pay 2$ each for them and they sound crappy. Ruff_ryder_70@hotmail.com thanks


Posted by: safiorl

hi everyone.

ok ive been reading this forum for a long time and have read everything about sending mp3 to phone. i have even done it before. problem is i cant repeat the process. ARGH!!

my wife has the phone and i was able to send her a clip of her favorite indian song. unfortunatly her phone had problems with sending picture messages and they had to swap out the phone and now i cant seem to send the same mp3 (renamed to mid) back to her phone. ANY SUGGESTIONS? tried both vzwpix.com and also from yahoomail. the mp3 is encoded at 20kbps and 11050 Hz and its only 61 KB

Keeps telling me "message receipt failed"

(i thought at first maybe the picture messaging feature wasnt turned on, but was able to send a regular mid file and also a jpg using vzwpix.com)

Thank you in advance!!

If anyone have verizon and a cable, if you could upload it to your phone and send it to me i'd be willing to pay for your troubles if it works.
http://tosif.webhop.net/misc/KalHoNaHo.mp3


Posted by: jfravel

i have been reading these forums for a while waiting for my phone to be sent to me. i have read all of the faqs and am waiting for my cable to get sent to me. as i'm waiting for that i've been trying to email myself mp3's (my provider is verizon). my phone is enabled to recieve pix and midi files but i just can't get the mp3's on my phone. my problem is how to rename the files to midi or mid. ( i know it seems like the most minor point) can i just right click an mp3 file and rename it from flake to flake.mid? or is there a different way and if so can i only use soundforge? i've tried uploading mp3's with the name changed to .mid but when i upload the attachment the file looks like this flake.mid.mp3. thanks for anyone's help.


Posted by: cantcme

my friend had a similar problem like yours. i dont have a windows machine, but if you search google for "show file extensions" then you'll find many tutorials on how to turn file extensions on. From there the file will now say flake.mp3, and you just change it to .mid from there.


Posted by: darketernal

if your running winxp. once a specific extension is set you cannot change it(wait ill get to the point) like if u had hello.mp3 when u try to rename it, it will end up as hello.mid.mp3.

BUT haha there is a kickass way around this. if your familiar with command prompt. just go into it, go into the appropriate directory. type rename "original file" "file you want to be renamed". so forexample i want to change hello.mp3 into hello.mid. you just go rename hello.mp3 hello.mid
and BOOM WOW done and done

Goodluck>

PS: if its not win xp. 98,95 ME etc....all have ms-dos prompt that also have rename command. just make sure ur in the right directory. C:\My Documents\rename etc etc


Posted by: jfravel

awesome. that did the trick thanks a ton. i found another way using outlook but your way is so much easier. for those that are unable to figure out cmd prompts. you attach a file in outlook but don't send it. right click on the attachment and save as. then save yourfile.mp3 as yourfile.mid. the way described above is much more efficient.


Posted by: UNKNOWN_MEMBER

Quote:
Originally posted by darketernal
if your running winxp. once a specific extension is set you cannot change it(wait ill get to the point) like if u had hello.mp3 when u try to rename it, it will end up as hello.mid.mp3.

BUT haha there is a kickass way around this. if your familiar with command prompt. just go into it, go into the appropriate directory. type rename "original file" "file you want to be renamed". so forexample i want to change hello.mp3 into hello.mid. you just go rename hello.mp3 hello.mid
and BOOM WOW done and done

Goodluck>

PS: if its not win xp. 98,95 ME etc....all have ms-dos prompt that also have rename command. just make sure ur in the right directory. C:\My Documents\rename etc etc
Man this ×××× is so hard. Look, here's what I did, I went to sound forge, shorten the length of the track, select the track, right click then properties and then go to the tab that says format. Then I change the bit-depth to 8bit and then change the channels to mono. Then i save it as an mp3 and on template i put it on low quality vbr stereo audio then save. Then i open it up with mp3gain and then boost the db up to 96 then save it and put .mid at the end of the name. Then i send the file to my phone and i try to save media but it says no media, but when i read the text it says attachment dropped. I am using aol to send it out and i am using sonic foundry soundforge 6.0. Please help me out, this is driving me nuts. If you got a screen name please IM me, my sn is lm0riginal, copy and paste that. Thanks


Posted by: UNKNOWN_MEMBER

Nm, i got it, boo to aols email ××××. i used yahoo and it worked.


Posted by: sevenwords

Quote:
Originally posted by darketernal
if your running winxp. once a specific extension is set you cannot change it(wait ill get to the point) like if u had hello.mp3 when u try to rename it, it will end up as hello.mid.mp3.

BUT haha there is a kickass way around this. if your familiar with command prompt. just go into it, go into the appropriate directory. type rename "original file" "file you want to be renamed". so forexample i want to change hello.mp3 into hello.mid. you just go rename hello.mp3 hello.mid
and BOOM WOW done and done

Goodluck>

PS: if its not win xp. 98,95 ME etc....all have ms-dos prompt that also have rename command. just make sure ur in the right directory. C:\My Documents\rename etc etc


I don't know what the heck your talking about, i have winxp and was able to change the file extension no problem from .mp3 to .midi. it just gave me some message saying "do you want to do this? file may become unusable." I said yes and I have Deftones, Jurassic 5 and Wesley Willis on my phone.


Posted by: darketernal

on my XP machine its set to not display extensions so therefore even if u tried renaming it, the extensions are never changed. So thats why u have to go to command prompt and just DOS your way out of it


Posted by: spangerang

everytime i try to send a midi to my 8900 i dont get the actual media i just got some message that says something like "message available for you at www.vzwpix.com" can someone tell me what im doing wrong. thanks


Posted by: schwarz2

i know this was stated before, but reiterating. If you get the message that the message is available for you at vzwpix.com, it means your account is not activated for pic messaging. Just call up verizon and tell them you would like picture messaging to be activated for your account. They will ask you for your acct number and everything then they will tell you it will take about an hour. Then you should be golden. Either send the midi/pic through vzwpix.com (but they mess with the messages so i wouldn't recommend that). I'd just send it as an attachment through email to yourphone#@vzwpix.com

this costs .25 per message unless you have unlimited pix and txt messaging or a plan or something.


Posted by: cutt

OR, it could mean that you're sending files that are too big to be handled through vzwpix.com I have had problems sending files through them larger than 50K, althouh with a cable have uploaded and used files much larger than this. It's just yet another way Verizon tries to discourage use of your own media files, so you have to buy them using Get it now.


Posted by: schwarz2

well cutt. Just send the file through yourphone#@vzwpix.com ... that way there isn't much of a limit on the size of files you can send. I think that way you can send up to around 300kb per file. And you can attach multiple files at a time. This method costs you 25 cents per message as well unless you have unlimited picture messaging. This is why I say not to use vzwpix.com the website to send the messages - just use simple email.


Posted by: duckdude

I'm trying to get midi or mp3 (with a mid extension) ringtones onto my 8900. Emailing them as attachments to my #@vzwpix.com, I get that the phone fails to get the picture (or something similar). At vzwpix.com, I can't even get the site to acknowledge that I've attached a .mid file. Ideas?


Posted by: aovsi

Quote:
Originally posted by duckdude
I'm trying to get midi or mp3 (with a mid extension) ringtones onto my 8900. Emailing them as attachments to my #@vzwpix.com, I get that the phone fails to get the picture (or something similar). At vzwpix.com, I can't even get the site to acknowledge that I've attached a .mid file. Ideas?


What are the sizes of files? It doesn't work if it's over like 99.5k in size.


Posted by: duckdude

No, I'm starting with much smaller files, just to see if I can get one to work--the biggest one I've tried was 34k. I haven't been able to get any midi file recognized by my phone. I tried one that was 4k just now and got "Failed to play pix message" again when I tried to look at it. Or should I be looking at it some other way than through Messaging/Inbox?


Posted by: ddlatone

i dont know if anyone has said anything about this or not, but is there a good mp3 or midi editor out there to use for this?


Posted by: classikal

Well i was wondering if anyone knows if they can use this online email way to send to ringtones TELUS users. Im sorry if this has been answerwed before


Posted by: darketernal

Quote:
Originally posted by classikal
Well i was wondering if anyone knows if they can use this online email way to send to ringtones TELUS users. Im sorry if this has been answerwed before


why dont you try it?if i remember its like areacode+number@telusmobility.net or something then add attachment


Posted by: SideKicked

is there a way to do this with metropcs


Posted by: iamthetas

it may have been said before but all i do is email what i want by attaching it to my email and send it from my earthlink acc. to my phone without any vzw pix or such.my vzwpix kept saying my account does not allow me to "create"so i just go from my pop mail,attach a folder(midi,mp3,jpeg,and gif are all ive tried)and its there in almost no time.i recieve it,save media and i got pics,wallpaper,ringtones,graphics,animations,the works.i am with verizon.i just send it to my10 digit # and it does fine


Posted by: duckdude

I tried emailing from Earthlink web mail and from the POP client I use (Mozilla's Thunderbird), and in neither case would it let me send mail without a domain name. Is there a domain name you're using to attach to your phone number for this? Am I missing something? I tried sending it once to my number@vtext.com, but that didn't allow me to see the file as a tone.


Posted by: iamthetas

i just go to write mail on my desktop ,use my 10 digit phone# as recipient(no @anything)make a subject, attach the files i want press send and then i get them shortly.i am with verizon if that makes a difference


Posted by: vice86

Isn't the easiest way just emailing the .mid file to your phone thru Outlook or whatever email client? Why go thru the vzwpix site?


Posted by: duckdude

I still haven't got that to work. I'm open to suggestions, though, heaven knows.


Posted by: vice86

duckdude...I just got my phone and tested it out and got it to work using Outlook...ill tell you how I did it and it should work for you...I think you need to set up an acct at vzwpix.com cuz you'll need to use that for your emailing address...thats if your a Verizon customer.

First you should start out with some simple midi files. You can get video game midis at http://www.vgmusic.com/ or general music midi files at http://www.mididb.com/ I tried to make sure they were under 100K in size...most are.

I dl'd a bunch of game midis to my desktop, then using outlook I emailed myself the midi file to xxx-xxx-xxxx@vzwpix.com

My phone gets the email and when you retrieve it you'll here a sample of it play...click the top left button to SAVE TO MEDIA...it will be stored in your media folder.

To make it your ringtone, go into your SETTINGS, SOUNDS, RINGER TYPE, RINGER...get into your RINGER options and hit left or right to get to DOWNLOADS...select MEDIA and select your tone out of there.

Should work just like that...did for me.


Posted by: duckdude

I am a Verizon customer, I have an account at vzwpix, and that's pretty much what I did, except for using Outlook. But I'll try it again with Outlook. The problem has been that when I get it I can't look at the message, for some reason; it just says it's not a picture. So I can't hit Menu and Save as Media. So far I haven't gotten any files that it's allowed me to Save as Media.


Posted by: duckdude

I have no idea why--maybe it's something about Outlook--but it worked! Thanks for your help!


Posted by: vice86

Don't forget, I think you pay .25 cents for each time you email yourself? If so..i think I spent like 5.00 last night testing out mp3s..lol.

I finally got a couple mp3 snippets on my phone....got about 15 seconds of Alice DJ - Better Off Alone and about 12 secs of The Immortals - Mortal Kombat Theme


Posted by: LowMach