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Posted by: lady_luck0807

Does anyone know what the little circle of rubber (which is removable) is for? It's by the antenna. It's a little hard to get it out at first. I know that you're supposed to put something in there, but what? I know this may be a dumb question, but please humor me.

Posted by: braindead5400

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Its probably for a car kit or something

Posted by: xanthus

Antenna Extension.

Posted by: lady_luck0807

Xanthus:

Why would it be an antenna extension? Most antennas aren't even attached to anything inside the phone. They are there for show. So, surely it's not for that.

Posted by: xanthus

It's a antenna extension port. For people with external antennas on their vehicles.

No, the antennas are not for "show" either. They are there for a reason. Get a clue.

Posted by: lady_luck0807

Actually, I've had many guys that specialize in rebuilding cellphones tell me that. So, you're the one that doesn't have a clue. You can believe that they are there for a reason, but they're not. Well, at least not on most phones. So, you can take your rude comments, and shove them up your ***.

Posted by: xanthus

If you honestly think that the antenna on the slider is not a functioning piece of hardware, then remove it and see what type of reception you get then.

Yes, the antenna nub on most phones is there for fuctionality. I'm not here to talk about most phones. I could care less about them.

As far as me sticking things up my ***, I do that quite often, and enjoy it alot. You ignorant ****.

Posted by: lady_luck0807

First of all, I never said that the antenna for the slider was just for show. I said, that on MOST phones. Second, since you like sticking things up your *** so much, why don't you stick your cellphone up there, and see what kind of reception YOU get!!

Posted by: xanthus

You idiot..

"Why would it be an antenna extension? Most antennas aren't even attached to anything inside the phone. They are there for show. So, surely it's not for that."

Posted by: braindead5400

umm... wow, anyway I have to go with Xanthus, for two reasons, one, when I took the antenna off of my vox, the reception went down 2 bars the second being if they were for show then why would they put internal antennas on phones? And don't say that they really aren't there they just say that they are internal because you can see them on the nokia 8260 and 3585 when the covers are removed. Starting to feel a little stupid Ms. Luck?

Posted by: azn_wrx

Quote:

Originally posted by xanthus
It's a antenna extension port. For people with external antennas on their vehicles.

No, the antennas are not for "show" either. They are there for a reason. Get a clue.

i can confirm this because on my offroad jeep, i do have an external antenna for cell phones, cb radio, and ham radio

so whos the moron now lady

Posted by: lilsonicfan

Wow, this thread is getting nasty. I think it should be deleted! There's really no need for most of the comments made here. People come to the forums looking for help, and sometimes they have what may seem like stupid questions.... at least let those people ask them and have them answered w/o nasty comments... there's no need to call anyone ignorant, a c__t, or to tell them to shove anything up any part of their body!

Posted by: xanthus

It should be removed. Personally, I thought it was funny. It entertained me for the day. However, it's not something that should be on the forum.

Posted by: ImportsCRX

i love the drama!

Posted by: azn_wrx

lol i was just confirming the external antenna

Posted by: TribbleGirl

LOL, it is funny. I don't condone insults but I loved xanthus' comeback.

I find it difficult to believe that the antenna on most phones is just for show. Stick-on after-market antennas are supposed to be useless but external antennas do help reception, in my experience.

Posted by: VMvirginmobile

hey, "lady" why do you have the same phone with different providers? your info says "slider/sprint slider/virgin"....

Posted by: braindead5400

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Hey lady check your private messages i sent you one.

Posted by: VMvirginmobile

yeah, I sent lady a private message as well.... Don't be stupid! why else would they put the bloody antenna on it if id doesn't do anything? and even on my slider, if Iput the antenna up, I get better reception! "lady_out_of_luck"

Posted by: lady_luck0807

I'm sorry, do any of you rebuild or build phones for a living? Humm...I'm guessing no. I know several people that do. So, yes on certain phones they are just for show, they don't do a DAMN thing! And, I could careless if you believe me or not. Instead of lashing out at me, why don't you go ask someone that does rebuild phones, and not one of the guys at Sprint, or where ever. They don't know anything about technical stuff like that, they only sell them. As for the person that asked if I have two different carriers: No, in Texas, Virgin Mobile uses Sprint PCS towers. That's why I have VM, and Sprint on there. Now, for the ones that made a comment about the rude remarks. Xanthus, started it by telling me to get a clue. He should of kept his comment to himself, instead of being a ignorant ***. As for the people that says it helps the reception. I wasn't talking specifically about the slider. Or, other Kyocera brands. Some phones do have antennas that are attached inside. I've said that from the beginning. So, for all the people that asked me if I felt stupid now, or like a moron. No, I don't, all of you just focused on one part of what I said. All because of Xanthus. Oh, and for the Braindead guy. I really don't care if I made a bad impression by what I said to Xanthus. I came to this site for help and answers. All I got was rude *** responses from everyone. So, thanks a lot for helping. All of you were such a big help. I hope that you ACTUALLY help other people with their threads, cause you sure as hell didn't help me.

Posted by: easye1161

i dont know anybody that rebuilds them, but i do know some people that design and test them at moto (im pretty sure the designers of cell phones would know more about how they work than somebody that knows somebody that rebuilds them). they are not there for show. that is very ignorant because people usually dont like having antennas so why would they put them there unless they are necessary. the people that you know that "rebuild phones" are lying (or imaginary).
btw, virgin uses sprint towers everywhere since sprint partially owns virgin. i wonder why nobody else has sprint on their carrier list

like everybody else on this board has said, you look pretty dumb

Posted by: VMvirginmobile

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Lady; if you knew as much about mobile phones as you say you do, you would know that virgin uses sprint s towers nationwide. Antenaae for show ? That's almost as stupid sounding as people putting fins on their cars to go fifty.

Posted by: lady_luck0807

Why is it that you are all lashing out at me for the Sprint thing? Someone asked me about it. And, just because I know about phones, doesn't mean that I would knwo everything about the carriers. So, all of ya'll go to hell!!

Posted by: braindead5400

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Quote:

Originally posted by lady_luck0807
Why is it that you are all lashing out at me for the Sprint thing? Someone asked me about it. And, just because I know about phones, doesn't mean that I would knwo everything about the carriers. So, all of ya'll go to hell!!

Why dont you just stop posting. You didnt get help because of your attitude.

Posted by: braindead5400

Quote:

Originally posted by lady_luck0807
I came to this site for help and answers.

you got an answer, rejected it and then started to use profanity, so you shouldn't have expected to get another answer after your comments. Maybe if you were nicer about things then you would get help and yes I know Xanthus said to get a clue but your response to that was to shove something up his *** so who's in the wrong here?

Posted by: lady_luck0807

I have attitude, because of Xanthus. And, everyone else in the forum just started being rude to me. If anyone in the forum was nice to me at all, then I would be nice. I'm not going to be nice when I came here for help, and all I get is cut-downs. I hope that you don't treat all new users like this, 'cause this is ridiculous. I have never had anybody be so damn rude on a website before. Oh, and I should stop posting. This is my damn question, why don't you stop saying **** to me!! And, FYI I would delete this damn thread, but I don't know how. I'm sure as hell not going to ask any of ya'll, 'cause I'd never get an answer. All I would get is ******** cut-downs.

Posted by: lady_luck0807

I didn't reject the answer. I was asking why it would be an extension. If someone is going to be rude to me like Xanthus, then I'm going to be rude back. I wasn't rude to anyone else, but all of ya'll were rude as hell to me. I didn't deserve that. And why am I getting all the rude comments directed toward me? You act like it's ok for everyone to be rude to the person asking the question, but it's not ok to be rude back. I'm actually a very nice person. All I wanted was an answer. But, everyone had to put their two cents in, and be rude right along with Xanthus. Yeah, I was rude back to him 'cause he was rude to me, but that doesn't mean that everyone had to be so damn rude to me. So, all of ya'll are getting what you want. As soon as I figure out how to delete this thread, I'm never coming back. So, thank you to everyone for making this a horrible experience.

Posted by: xanthus

First of all, I am talking this whole thread as a joke. No one should be feeling bad because it dosen't matter.

Second, "Lady" you need to drop the additude. I gave you an reasonable answer to your question, then you said I was wrong. That was very rude on your part, and it was a very ingorant post.
I decided to turn it up a notch because I think its funny. We are not talking about most phones. You had a direct question about the slider, I answered in the most direct way possible in return. I did help you.

I did not change the focus of your question either. You are the one that keeps wanting to talk about other phones, people, qualifications and BS. I got back to the point, and yes. I requoted to show you that you were wrong again because you were contridicting yourself.

Now, everyone is telling you that you are wrong, and you STILL are flaming me, and you still have a horrible additude. I still stand by my first rude comment. It is true in everyway.

Congrats.

Posted by: lady_luck0807

Ok, Xanthus. I never rejected your answer, I was asking why you would need an extension. And, I wasn't contradicting myself. I NEVER said SPECIFICALLY that the ANTENNA on the SLIDER DIDN"T WORK!! I always said MOST phones. You can say whatever you want, I don't give a ****. I know what I'm talking about, and if you want to twist things around go right ahead.

Posted by: lady_luck0807

I was not putting my focus on other phones. The only thing that I was saying about OTHER phones was that I kept saying that SOME ANTENNAS on MOST PHONES are there for show. I was explaining what I was saying about the antennas. I NEVER EVER said that about the slider. Which you kept accusing me of. Oh, and by the way, it's attitude, not ADDITUDE!!

Posted by: xanthus

I said it was an antenna extension.

"Why would it be an antenna extension? Most antennas aren't even attached to anything inside the phone. They are there for show. So, surely it's not for that."

Your comment, to my direct post to your question.

"I NEVER EVER said that about the slider. Which you kept accusing me of."

You just contridicted yourself again.

I have better spelling, grammar, and punctuation than most people on this message board. I'd rather not go into that.

Stop flaming me, please.

Posted by: lilsonicfan

Not to add fuel to the fire by keeping this thread going, but is there any chance everyone could be convinced to drop it? It's getting a bit... juvenile. Couldn't we just agree to disagree? So far all we've learned is that a) one person feels that there are some antennas out there on some cell phones that may be for show; b) many other people disagree with this thought; c) there was some miscommunication as to whether person A was referring to the slider; d) it's all moot anyway. Let's move on.

edit: as for "so surely, it's not for that" comment - I got the idea that ladyluck was saying she didn't think it could be for that - rather than saying there's no way in hell it could be for that - she may have been mistaken.... and by the way.. it's contradicted not contridicted... xanthus may have better spelling etc than some people on the board, but i don't know about "most"

Feel free to flame me if you want - I think this is my last post in this thread!

Posted by: xanthus

I need to read more books. My spelling is getting bad.

Posted by: lady_luck0807

I wouldn't flame you lilsonicfan. You haven't been rude to me. I totally agree with you. I'm just trying to set the record straight that it may seem like I was talking about the slider, but I wasn't. I do know that in some brand of phones (which my not be from this past year) the antennas really didn't do anything. Many brands have fixed this. Believe me or not, I don't really care. Everyone has their own opinion. I'm wasn't saying that all of the antennas on every phone made, do not work. I wasn't even talking about the slider. I was just explaining why I made that comment about the antenna. I wasn't saying that Xanthus' answer was wrong. I was asking why you would need an external antenna for your phone. Then, he took it the wrong way, and thought that I was saying his answer was wrong. Which I wasn't. Then, he got defensive. But, it pissed me off when he told me to get a clue. That was so rude. So, I made my rude comment right back. I don't understand why everyone else had to be so rude to me. Asking me if I feel stupid now, and how's the moron now, etc. I didn't deserve that. Everyone just started lashing out at me. When my comment was only directed to Xanthus. 'Cause he was rude to me, over nothing. All I did was ask a question, about his question. Does anyone see what I'm saying? I wasn't contradicting myself. I was EXPLAINING myself.

Posted by: xanthus

I appologize for everyone else flaming you, I did not intend for that to happen. However, I don't appologize for my actions.

I didn't take it the wrong way. I read exactly what you wrote and responded to it in the fashon it was given to me. I don't like helping people, then having it thrown back in my face. The port on the slider is very obvious. I work for a trucking company, and they use antenna extensions on their phones all the time. (no not sliders) However the setup is the same. So, yes, I do know a thing or two about antennas.

I am not disagreeing with you about most phones having a "fake" antenna. However most phones do have a true antenna nub. I do not want to talk about most phones, I don't care about them, this is not the point I was making. This is NOT what this particular forum is for.

Now, back on track.

Posted by: lady_luck0807

I wasn't saying that you didn't know anything about phones. I was just asking about the external antenna. I'm not sure about the antennas on the phones now, all I was saying was I knew about phones a couple of years ago, that the antenna was never actually connected to anything inside the phone that would make the reception any better. I wasn't trying to change the subject to other phones. I was just explaining my reasoning for the comment I made. I've never had a Kyocera phone before, so I don't know about there antennas. But, I also wasn't talking specifically about them. I've just never heard about an external antenna for a cellphone. I'm wasn't saying that there isn't such a thing. I just couldn't imagine the whole set-up of the external antenna for a cellphone either, or what would be connected to it form that itty bitty hole. Nor, the purpose for it, exactly. So, I was asking.

Posted by: braindead5400

Quote:

Originally posted by lady_luck0807
I've never had a Kyocera phone before, so I don't know about there antennas.

its their not there. (i'm bored)

Posted by: braindead5400

by the way, you can't delete the thread unless your a moderator

edit: Lady, check your private messages

Posted by: spyderman2k

how about we just stop this now.. this is getting out of hand.. people come to this forum for help.. we don't need this lashing out at one another. let's just all get along.

Posted by: xanthus

External antennas have been used on cell phones since the beginning of analog.

Some of the newer digital cell phones have transcievers that are a more powerful so they don't need an "actual" antenna. Their range is alot lower because they don't have an antenna though. Most phones digital or analog do have fuctioning buit in antennas, and have a port for an external one. It depends on the phone manufacture to actually add the estidic value of a antenna nub, or not. Most times when the nub is on the phone, the antenna is inside of it. Small as it may be.. it is a fuctioning unit of the phone.

With the slider, it definately is a fuctioning piece of hardware. I live in an area where I have almost no signal. If I were to be using my phone all the time, I'd have to have the antenna up, or get an external antenna.

Most external antennas attach to a window, and have the reciever on the outside, and a cable on the inde, so you can plug it into the phone. There are lots of different kinds though.

Posted by: SonicBoi

I read somthing in a really old Popular Science (mid 50's - 60's?) that explained how TV antennas work. They have several cross bars and some of them work as reflectors to other cross bars that actually pull in the signal. It could be possable that the non-connected antennas are using this property and the "real" antenna is deeper inside the phone. Depending on the power of the surrounding signal, there may not be any difference in the bar-count on the display. I know my StarTac showed no difference when the antenna was removed after it snapped of and was being replaced. I, however, don't recall ever trying to use a phone without an antenna attached.

Please don't flame me.

Posted by: lady_luck0807

I just wanted to say thank you.

Thank you, Xanthus, for explaining the external antenna. I knew about the antenna extensions for ham radios, and stuff. I just never knew, or really thought, about it being for cellphones.

Thank you, SonicBoi, for your response on the subject. It was really interesting. Maybe that's how they used to do the phones a couple of years ago. That I was talking about. My dad had that same phone that you were talking about. He had the same antenna experience, too.

Posted by: azn_wrx

i did post a reply in the beginning of the thread that the external anenna will help to recieve any type of frequency whether its to be used for ham (private), cb (short range) or just the cell phones.

Posted by: VMvirginmobile

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oh really? So if one plugged an external an . . You can receive cb ? I always wanted to be a trucker...

Posted by: lady_luck0807

Sorry, when I was reading most of those, I was just in shock at all the rude comments from everyone. But, thank you also for telling me about the external antenna, etc.

Posted by: xanthus

VMvirginmobile, actually our phones recieve all forms of RF transmissions. CB band is one of them.

If someone were crazy enough, I'm sure they could get the phones transciever to modulate at CB frequencies. The phone would not have enough output power to really talk to anyone though. (If it were a digital phone) An analog handset would have an easier time doing it.

It's not impossible, just improbable.

Posted by: azn_wrx

your right about that, thats why some of the older analog only phones get great reception such as the legendary oki