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Posted by: nicolasl46

I just got a Motorola V600 Housing, but i need some help to put it into a V300.



Posted by: Burchoid

you want to put a V600 housing on a V300? You will need the V600 keypad too ... If you got all you need, get out your torx and get to work!



Posted by: tmobile6610

where did u get the v600 housing at?
i posted a thread about this a while back and no one replied. i would really like to find out if this works.
thanks



Posted by: nicolasl46

Well is not actually a housing, is and OEM dummy phone of the Motorola V600. I was about to buy one on EBAY, but they sold it for 152 USD. If you guys interested you could get it for 1/2 of that



Posted by: bluemoto

so wait...i have a v300 also but i relly want to know something...why do you want to get a casing for it to look like a v600 ? why just dont sell youre phone and buy a v600 like what im going to do...but anyways if you still want to go ahead, you should get the firmware/flex for the v300 to change into the v600 in http://www.************ even though im not 100% sure that it would work



Posted by: nicolasl46

i've done it already, and i don't buy a V600, because its about $600 USD, and the V300 its only $200 USD. Its a big difference for my pocket, if i had the money that would be different.



Posted by: tmobile6610

so do u have the housing yet?
if so does it work on the v300?



Posted by: nicolasl46

I should receive it in about two days, as soon as i receive it i will start playing with it



Posted by: chopsu3i

interesting....i dont think a v600 housing will fit on a v400 just by the looks of the phone shape. the two shapes are almost completely different. the v300 is alot more eggy compared to the v600. and the top flip looks to be bigger than the v600's front flip as well.
The v300's sizing is :

3.50" x 1.93" x 0.98"
(89mm x 49mm x 25mm)

And the v600's sizing is :
3.46" x 1.85" x 0.91"
(88mm x 47mm x 23mm)

Just by looking at this i dont think it will fit, but you could always try.



Posted by: tmobile6610

have you got the housing on the v300 or even tried? if so r there any mods u have to do? i really want to do this to my v300 soooooo bad.
thanks



Posted by: Cirux

Quote:
Originally posted by chopsu3i
interesting....i dont think a v600 housing will fit on a v400 just by the looks of the phone shape. the two shapes are almost completely different. the v300 is alot more eggy compared to the v600. and the top flip looks to be bigger than the v600's front flip as well.
The v300's sizing is :

3.50" x 1.93" x 0.98"
(89mm x 49mm x 25mm)

And the v600's sizing is :
3.46" x 1.85" x 0.91"
(88mm x 47mm x 23mm)

Just by looking at this i dont think it will fit, but you could always try.


but those specs are for the phones shell, not the components inside, they could fit, and only time will tell.



Posted by: tmobile6610

i think that cirux is right. the stuff inside the two phones are probably the same so they would probably fit.



Posted by: Warren G

if the lcd and main board or insides of the phone are the same size, i dont see why it wouldnt work.



Posted by: INNOVA

It is not going to work. The dummy phones are not the same as the retail versions.... sorry man, can't complain though, you bought a dummy phone.



Posted by: njlmx6

This WILL work. the phones use the same main board, camera, and lc screens. only thing that would be a problem is that on the outside of the flip, the v300 has the circle motorola symbol on it right below the lcd. on all other vseries, the symbol is just a circle and its placed way down on the flip. that is the only forseeable thing i could think of...not to mention price of the v600 oem cases, and the fact i havent seen a full housing for the v600(aftermarket) yet



Posted by: K9-Skittles

would this housin fit on the v300 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&category=35215



Posted by: njlmx6

Yes that housing would fit...but i didnt see if it had the keypad or not. if it didn't...you would need to find a v4/500 keypad to make it work.



Posted by: kram

Quote:
Originally posted by tmobile6610
where did u get the v600 housing at?
i posted a thread about this a while back and no one replied. i would really like to find out if this works.
thanks


did this work for you??



Posted by: acd483

My concern is that the shape of the camera on the v300 is a circle while the v400 has two circle cut outs. How do you work around that? I think you need parts from both cameras. You would have to graft a camera from the 400 onto the 300.



Posted by: nicolasl46

Who told you that about the camera?, have you ever opened up a V300 or a V400? i don't think you did. The thing that is around the camera, is a piece of plastic, sticked around it, so you could take it out easily, but the entire flip of the V300/V400 without the housing are exactly the same. Its like comparing a T720, with a T722, the only difference between these two phones is that the T722 has a black pice of plastic on the face, which you could easily take out and put it into the T720 and make it look like a T722. Same thing with V300/V400. When i first got my V300, i was having some problems with the camera, so what i did was get a V400 flip, and take everything off it, even the little mirror next to the camera, the i took out the outter LCD plastic from the V300's flip, and swithc it over to the V400's, and there it was my V300/400 phone, with V600 software.



Posted by: acd483

So, where do you get the plastic camera surround peice? You need that to swap the V400 housing on the V300. That's my point exactly. It's not a direct swap, you need little bits and pieces from both.

But you're absolutely right, I'm basing my opinion on photographs. I was pretty close...couldn't tell whether the plastic surround was adhered to the lens or not.



Posted by: nicolasl46

Sorry, i didn't mean to sound like that. One question, shouldn't the V400 housing come with the little mirror?



Posted by: acd483

Probably not...they assume you own a V400/V600. I believe the mirror is part of the internal phone. How you would get just that little part is beyond me.



Posted by: nicolasl46

First of all, do you have the phone?, if so do the following: just take out the faceplate, and then put a little screw driver under the plastic piece and pull, thats all you have to do



Posted by: acd483

...but you need both phones to do that. Isn't this obvious? Basically the summation is that in addition to the outer housing you need to swap the plastic piece that sits around the lense with the donor phone.



Posted by: nicolasl46

of course, at least you need the full housing, you don't want a housing with missing parts.



Posted by: bluemoto

did the dummy phone (v600) full housing worked on the v300 perfectly, or did you get any problems ? like the chrome border on the v300 and/or the chrome camera mirror ? and did you noticed any problems? and does this dummy phone look and feel like a v600 (the metal parts etc)



Posted by: nicolasl46

i never got a housing. It wasn't what i thought, not like nextel dummys or samsung dummys which arew made from the real thing



Posted by: Pallas_Athena

Hello: how do you remove the housing on a V400?



Posted by: bluemoto

search...take note: the v300 housing change is the same as the v400



Posted by: njlmx6

Im wondering if the dummy v600's you see at retailers have the eventlights AND the bluetooth hardware in them. I know some dummy phones are only the housings with no guts, while some of them are actual phones but with no software on them...so you can not only see what it looks like, but know how much it weighs fully furbishes and whatnot. anyone know anything about hhis? what this forum needs is someone that works at a t-mo, cingular, att etc. retailer that has firsthand knowledge about the dummy phones.

-Nick



Posted by: CellTester

The dummy does not share any common parts with the real phone. It truly is a fake copy of it.



Posted by: WeAreNotAlone

Quote:
Originally posted by njlmx6
Im wondering if the dummy v600's you see at retailers have the eventlights AND the bluetooth hardware in them. I know some dummy phones are only the housings with no guts, while some of them are actual phones but with no software on them...so you can not only see what it looks like, but know how much it weighs fully furbishes and whatnot. anyone know anything about hhis? what this forum needs is someone that works at a t-mo, cingular, att etc. retailer that has firsthand knowledge about the dummy phones.

-Nick


A dummy phone is just that, a dummy.

They are weighted to make it feel the same. There are NO eventlights AND the bluetooth hardware in them.

The only time a dealer would have a phone with ANY real parts in it would be a demo phone... Or maybe a phone that was DOA, or had been returned and for some reason they hadn't sent it back yet.



Posted by: WeAreNotAlone

PS: Has anyone swapped the guts of a V300, into a V400, V500... Or V600 as of todays date sucessfully?

If so were did you gets the parts, what was the cost, and exactly what addtional parts are needed besides the full housing /keyboard?



Posted by: sk8seventy8

Quote:
Originally posted by nicolasl46
i've done it already, and i don't buy a V600, because its about $600 USD, and the V300 its only $200 USD. Its a big difference for my pocket, if i had the money that would be different.


$600!? I just got a V600 for $285 USD two days ago. Has the price really changed that much in just a few months?



Posted by: WeAreNotAlone

Quote:
Originally posted by sk8seventy8
$600!? I just got a V600 for $285 USD two days ago. Has the price really changed that much in just a few months?


Sounds about right.. When something first comes out the price is high, then drops...

By the way what are the details about how you got a V600 for $285?



Posted by: bluemoto

Quote:
Originally posted by WeAreNotAlone
PS: Has anyone swapped the guts of a V300, into a V400, V500... Or V600 as of todays date sucessfully?

If so were did you gets the parts, what was the cost, and exactly what addtional parts are needed besides the full housing /keyboard?


i have plans to swap the mainboard of the v300 and v600 to get BT on my v300.



Posted by: WeAreNotAlone

Quote:
Originally posted by bluemoto
i have plans to swap the mainboard of the v300 and v600 to get BT on my v300.


Using the stock V300 housing, or a V600 housing?

Got a source /prices/part numbers of needed parts?



Posted by: sk8seventy8

Quote:
Originally posted by WeAreNotAlone
Sounds about right.. When something first comes out the price is high, then drops...

By the way what are the details about how you got a V600 for $285?


I went to my local Cingular store, and I was going to pick one up for full price ($350), and the guy that was helping my told me about one they had that somebody had returned a day or two before. Someone bought it, but decided they didn't get good service near their house and returened it 2 days later. He said he'd give it to my for 25% off. It was still in perfect condition, and had the plastic covers on the screen and everything, so I bought it. He also said that if I had any problems with it, I could bring it back and trade it for a brand new one.



Posted by: bluemoto

Quote:
Originally posted by WeAreNotAlone
Using the stock V300 housing, or a V600 housing?

Got a source /prices/part numbers of needed parts?


nope i dont know where to get it ... and i was going to put it in my v300 housing well what i do know is that there is a mobile bluetooth device BCM2035 made by broadcom....this can enable the bluetooth by inseting this to the v300's mainboard...i found a full housing for anyone who is willing to try to see if it fits...the ring light can be obtained by cnn.cn and the housing can be gotten here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=6310604174

its an oem and you will be getting everything except the keypad (which you can get from cnn.cn again)

so you can make yourself a v600...i have one last question the v500 housing can work in the v300 for sure so can the v600 work on the v300/v500?



Posted by: G.WILLI

You'll find that the housings for $30 don't last for more than a week m8. After a week they will start to fade, u'll get cracks in the silver bezel of the phone and the silver will just fade away. It's why I got insurance on my phone. Every single housing from ebay does this. Even the ones that claim that they are "official" motorola/nokia/samsung/sagem etc housings and covers. You get what u pay for.

Also.. I'm interested in how you're going to apply the broadcom bluetooth module into your V300's main board? And actually intergrate it with the phones software. I don't know much about modifying Motorola flashes. But from experience of making/modifying custom Nokia DCT-3 flashes it is a pretty tricky job.



Posted by: Mobile PhD

I am also interested in doing a housing swap from V300 to 600. My question is, where do you connect the ring light on the flip circuit board? There is no connection for this as far as I remember. You would have to get the full V600 LCD and this would bring the cost way too high. Can anyone post internal pics of both V300/400/500 and V600 for comparison, as I have not disected a V600 as of yet.



Posted by: G.WILLI

V300/V400/V500 Do not have connections for the V600 Glowing light. For the price of transforming your V*** into a perfect V600, u might aswell buy a V600 as they're getting cheaper.

Don't be cheap!



Posted by: ek604

that housing is NOT complete.



Quote:
Originally posted by bluemoto
nope i dont know where to get it ... and i was going to put it in my v300 housing well what i do know is that there is a mobile bluetooth device BCM2035 made by broadcom....this can enable the bluetooth by inseting this to the v300's mainboard...i found a full housing for anyone who is willing to try to see if it fits...the ring light can be obtained by cnn.cn and the housing can be gotten here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=6310604174

its an oem and you will be getting everything except the keypad (which you can get from cnn.cn again)

so you can make yourself a v600...i have one last question the v500 housing can work in the v300 for sure so can the v600 work on the v300/v500?




Posted by: bluemoto

so what im i missing?



Posted by: acd483

There's no keypad for one.



Posted by: bluemoto

Quote:
Originally posted by bluemoto
nope i dont know where to get it ... and i was going to put it in my v300 housing well what i do know is that there is a mobile bluetooth device BCM2035 made by broadcom....this can enable the bluetooth by inseting this to the v300's mainboard...i found a full housing for anyone who is willing to try to see if it fits...the ring light can be obtained by cnn.cn and the housing can be gotten here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...item=6310604174

iits ts an oem and you will be getting everything except the keypad (which you can get from cnn.cn again)

so you can make yourself a v600...i have one last question the v500 housing can work in the v300 for sure so can the v600 work on the v300/v500?


like i said and will highlight so what else am i missing?



Posted by: TL_99

the flip pivot is missing!! so it won't work



Posted by: mtnbikrfreak

you can get the flip hinges for the v600 from cnn.cn



Posted by: MrAnthonyWong

I am gonig to try and buy all the parts needed to put my v400 into a v600 case. So off cnn.cn what do I need to purchase. List them, including faceplates, etc. The sooner the better I am going to Australia soon and want to try this first, if it doesn't work out (never even done full housin gon my own ) ill maybe sell it to you guys and you can try =D. So just lis tthe parts i need from cnn.cn thanks. and wish me luck oh yeah, do i need to get a new camera, or my v400 one is compatible? And is the battery an dantenna compatible, whatever the v400 has that is compatible tell me. If I can pull this off it woudl be awesome V600 for uner 70 dollars. Well at least I hope. Thanks guys! Pleas eFAST REPLIeS



Posted by: bluemoto

list with compartable parts of v400 and v600

battery
charger
usb devices (radio, mp3 headsets and usb cable etc...)
headsets
(your keeping your v400 mainboard so everything would work eg lcd screen camera etc...)
antenna
the v600 keypad will touch the mainboard sucessfuly to make the v600 keypad fit on the v400 and work properly

any more questions feel free to pm me or post a reply in this tread or do both



Posted by: bluemoto

Quote:
Originally posted by TL_99
the flip pivot is missing!! so it won't work


good observation!!! but according to mtnbikrfreak you can get it from cnn.cn



Posted by: bluemoto

ok use my ebay link to get the housing

use the cnn.cn link to get the pivot, keypad (and not neccasy the camera unless you want a new camera (not needed if you want to save money), get the ring lights (not sure how to install this but refer to the sticky in the motorola forum with changing cover (bezel) to see how it can be done) open up your phone and compare to see where youre going to install this

now the tricky part (for bluetooth) get the broadcom chip i mentiontioned (dont know where to get it but you can get info from the link the problem is that i dont know where and how to install this to the mainboard but ive seen the v500,v400,v300 and v600 mainboareds they are identical and it think that the chip has to go in the bottom of the mainboard (in the space you see)!!!! so its possible

heres the bluetooth link (broadcom chip) (please install this with caution!!!!)
http://www.broadcom.com/products/pr...duct_id=BCM2035

and the pdf file with more info
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/2035-PB01-R.pdf

bradcom contact link
http://www.broadcom.com/contact/index.php

or you can get the bluetooth adapter from motorola to connect to the phone's usb to get bluetooth but that will surely make your v600 look fake!!!!

hopefully and im about 90% sure that you will be using <$70

eFAST REPLY with results



Posted by: bluemoto

let me calculate the cost without the broadcom chip and the shipping + all the taxes

housing (antenna included!!!) $31
ring lights $13
keypad $ 6
v600 axis holder $ 9
*just in case* lcd lens $ 6
total $ 65

if you want to reduce cost dont get the ring lights but it will then prove to be fake...so it will be over $70



Posted by: MrAnthonyWong

Hey, bluemoto I have a few more questions do you have AIM or MSN or Yahoo Messenger, or any messenger, want to talk to you live so I can get a bette runderstand, please try to reply ASAP, thanks bluemoto you ahve been quite a help!



Posted by: MrAnthonyWong

i was also wondering if I got a new ribbon for ym v400 lcd would there be enough holes in the main board for teh extra ribbon part? or are the ribbons built in ahve the same number of male/female parts?.....but I will try to buy the ribbon and lights to see if it works, and if it doesnt ill jsut sell it to v600 people.

or contact me

AIM: MrAnthonyWong
Msn Messenger: MrAnthonyWong@msn.com



Posted by: MrAnthonyWong

thanks bluemoto, I have purchased all th epart sof r70 dolalrs. Cant wait till they arrive. Thanks for al your help bluemoto couldnt have done it without you. will probably due teh bluetooth if the housign etc.. work. Oh and one more question the china_Store ebay hosuing, it has teh part where you put the keypad, the plastic that surrounds it. Right?



Posted by: TL_99

I bought my housing off ebay for 2.95 GBP!!! i still need to get the keypad. I'll skip the ring lights cux basically i just want my phone to be smaller!! i have a white v300 with flashing antenna!! if everything successful, i'll have a red v600!! can't wait!!



Posted by: bluemoto

sorry for not replying to your pm...i didnt came to this site in a while...the china store housing has that part look at the second to last pic of the v600 and to the far right youll see the part (bottom keypad which writes v600)

the ring lights do not connect to the mainboard (well the main part of it) that is the part of the circut board that is located under the keypad area...im not too sure where it connects to...ive read on some tread (sorry dont remember) that the ring lights connects to the lcd screen.....dont know how though...probably getting the ribbon from the v600 might solve this issue but i really doubt it....i was looking at the pic of it in cnn.cn and it resembles mine without anything different

ill pm you my msn after i send this to you in case you need to ask me something

dont forget to post results (comparison pics to show transformation so you can prove to everyone that converting a v300/v400 etc to a v600 is possible... i am one of the few people who believe in this...also any problems found when doing it or if youre fully satisfyed (i also want to convert my v300 to v600 and wait for my MPx220)



Posted by: mtnbikrfreak

here are some full lcd's that have the connector for the ring lights

ebay



Posted by: bluemoto

take a look at this pic



youll notice a piece of cable to the lowest right...that is what connects to the ring lights



Posted by: MrAnthonyWong

×××× so i wouldnt be able to install the ring llights right?



Posted by: mtnbikrfreak

you would have to buy a v600 FULL lcd off ebay


Right here



Posted by: bluemoto

Quote:
Originally posted by MrAnthonyWong
×××× so i wouldnt be able to install the ring llights right?


mtnbikrfreak...this screen is too expensive @ 160 for its purpose....best you buy the v600 itself

MrAnthonyWong



notice the connector resembles the one to the pic well hopefully your v400 will have that piece if not well it wouldnt work...sorry



Posted by: z1968

BUMP!

I'm really interested in doing this and wanted to know more from those who've attempted and/or completed it.

I'd ideally like to get the ring lights working (although I won't shell out $80+ for a new full screen if that's the only way to do it) and also to get bluetooth working - has anyone added the chip to a v300 or v400??

This is a great thread - lets keep it going!!

Dave



Posted by: sidneylopsides

Quote:
Originally posted by bluemoto
take a look at this pic



youll notice a piece of cable to the lowest right...that is what connects to the ring lights


What's that ATi chip? I thought the only mobile one they did was the Imageon, but surely the Vxxx don't need anything that powerful? If it is an Imageon, they support up to 2MP cameras...



Posted by: Schmohey

I still don't get it.

I know for Nextels, dummy phones are made from real housings. Does this apply to the V600? Or the V600, you can't take it apart?





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