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How To Make Samsung .mmf Ringtones

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Posted by: Bumpon10s

PLEEEEEASE MODERATOR MAKE THIS A STICKY!!! ME AND RAAB HIMSELF HAVE BEEN PLAGUED TO NO END BY POSTS, PM'S , AND EMAILS!!!

That said here is how to do it...

First things first > Download these utilities.

Sony Sound Forge 7.0
Sound Forge 7.0 Download

Yamaha .WAV to SMAF Converter
Yamaha SMAF Converter Download

1. Select a audio file you want to make into a ringtone.

2. Find a section that makes for a good loop and is NO MORE than 10 seconds. (10.15 seems to be the total maximum).

3. Cut the sound out around it, leaving that 10 second clip.

4. Click save as, then under that dialog box click custom.

5. In this boxes below, change the items to:
Format - PCM uncompressed
Sample Rate (Hz) - 8.000
Bit Depth - 16
Channels - Mono
Then click ok, then save the file.

6. Drag your clip to Yamaha WAV to SMAF Converter, name the file then click ok, MAKE SURE IT IS NO MORE THAN 40.00KB.

7. Transfer the file to your phone via EasyGPRS, Tagtag.com or any other service you use but I recommend these two.

8. If all went well you should have a new custom ringer, enjoi!

On a more technical note, if you see the sound file is clipping (if you don't know what this is don't ask) turn the frequency down 1.5Db.

I hope this has helped everybody, and taught a few noobs make their own ringers.

-Bumpon10s



Posted by: Raab Himself

Quote:
Originally posted by Bumpon10s
PLEEEEEASE MODERATOR MAKE THIS A STICKY!!! ME AND RAAB HIMSELF HAVE BEEN PLAGUED TO NO END BY POSTS, PM'S , AND EMAILS!!!


-Bumpon10s


^^he is right..i have been plauged to no end



Posted by: Bumpon10s

Moderators this has to be made a sticky, if you look into some of the ringtone forums you'll see so many questions on how to make ringtones along with people trying to request ringers every 4 seconds. I used to be a ringtone dynamo, that was when I just worked on my E715. Now I have so many phones to work on I could fill a stadium. I no longer have the time or patience to make 6 ringtones a day. So with this thread I hoped other people could make their own tones and not me or raab dispensing ringers all the time. This little tutorial marks the COMMON problems people keep making. So please, I (along with probably raab) beg of you to make this a sticky.


Thanks in advance,
Bumpon10s



Posted by: kusanagi

First ur tutorial is very useful.
I manage to add vib & led on a wav i made. But there's a problem. The lenght of the wav is 4 second and MA-3 doesnt play it till the end. It's cut at 3s.
Is this problem come from the empty.mid??



Posted by: lunatic16

oppz double post



Posted by: lunatic16

you can get mid ringtones off of 3gupload.com
and use psmplay 5.0 to convert them to mmf



Posted by: Bumpon10s

Quote:
Originally posted by kusanagi
First ur tutorial is very useful.
I manage to add vib & led on a wav i made. But there's a problem. The lenght of the wav is 4 second and MA-3 doesnt play it till the end. It's cut at 3s.
Is this problem come from the empty.mid??


Yor obviously doing something wrong. redo the ringtone and follow the directions to a t, and they will come out at 10 seconds instead of 4.



Posted by: holteender

no i have the same problem,we have made the ringtone fine,they are so easy to make, however when we add vibration it cuts the tone down and does not play it all, any idea??????

cheers



Posted by: ~ViXoN~

Is it a sticky yet ???

PMSL!!!!!!



Posted by: sparky1

You need to stretch the wav when it's in the piano roll bar. It automatically shortens it but if you go to the end of the wav you should get an arrow with 2 ends, use this to pull it out and then keep trying it until it sounds the way you want it too.





Posted by: holteender

HOW DO I EXTEND IT,WHAT ARROWS DO I PULL?

COULD YOU ATTACH A PICTURE WIT THESE ARROWS HIGHLIGHTED PLEASE?


I WILL BE TRUELY GRATEFULL FOR YOUR HELP AND WILL THEN PASS ON MY KNOWLEDGE TO OTHERS WHO WANT TO KNOW.

ps is those numbers above the amount of seconds????

CHEERS



Posted by: holteender

WEEEEEEEEEEY I FINALLY DONE IT BY GUESSING WHERE THE END WAS AND NOW ITS ALMOST PERFECT,ONE THING HOWEVER IS THAT THE VIBRATION IS JUST ONE LONG VIBRATE,CANT YOU MAKE IT GO WITH THE TUNE?????/



Posted by: sparky1

Not unless you use another midi file which has other channels to attatch to as a base, don't think you'll get it to go with the music unless you create a special pulse midi for each ringtone.




Posted by: -TimS-

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Posted by: RudeDoggy

Quote:
Originally posted by -TimS-
anybody got a serial key for soundforge?
/TimS


*removed*

Mod's Edit: Do not give suggestions as to where to find illegal software. This is your final warning, as well.



Posted by: -TimS-

hehe thx got one..



Posted by: Bumpon10s

HOFO does not allow illegal software/cracks/keys. So no...



Posted by: nikkibee

i get a big scary error when i try to install soundforge...



Posted by: nikkibee

is there any chance someone would do one for me and send me a link to it on their WAP page? i would be forever grateful and even willing to paypal a couple bucks for just one.

nikki@3rdoffense.com



Posted by: -TimS-

hi yall
didnt get how to add vibs to the voice mmf´s.. is there a thread or? somebody plzz post how to add vibs or direct me to the right thread thx..

/TimS



Posted by: popsta

Hey im a huge newb to making ringtones can u please go over what we need to do to record a clear sounding song what exactly is the process of recording im a lil shady on that part and after that how do we add vib and led to it....through psmplay or will smaf to wav converter automatically do it? please reply thanks



Posted by: viper

I would also like to know if there is an easy way to do it? I have been trying to do it with psplay and vlpls and just could not get it to work

Any help greatly appreciated
TIA



Posted by: trickstaday

how do you add vibrations?



Posted by: phantomandy

Thanks for your hard work and know how -

And thanks for sharing with us all -

As you can see I'm a noob - but my data cable is on the way, and I'm getting started on my custom ringt's.

Thanks!



Posted by: TC535i

Quote:
Originally posted by Bumpon10s
6. Drag your clip to Yamaha WAV to SMAF Converter, name the file then click ok, MAKE SURE IT IS NO MORE THAN 40.00KB.
-Bumpon10s


When I follow this process, I end up with a 540k SMAF... Any way to reduce it, or am I just starting with something too "detailed"??



Posted by: viper

i believe you need to save it as a wav and then use one of the yamaha tools to convert it to a mmf



Posted by: tigerjk1410

i dont know if this has been discussed before but is there a way to change the ringing so that it vibrates with the song and not 3 times before? i liked that on my nokia but with these samsungs that doesnt work so i hardly ever get to even hear my ringtones because i always end up picking up the phone before the ringtone starts.



Posted by: Mango808

If you program the Vibe into the ringtone as in PSM Player, you will need to set the alert to Melody only and not to Vibra+Melody. If you set it to Vibra+Melody, it will default to ring then vibrate or vibrate then ring.



Posted by: tigerjk1410

where do i get this PSM player and is there a link on how to use this program?



Posted by: paris playa69

can i take any song and do this?(soundforge and convert to mmf) like if i wanted to take an mp3,get tha chorus(ex. Sippin on Syrup) convert it to mmf and send it to my samsung 670 will it work? or is tha 670 not capable of playin songs with voices or w/e...

**also does tha 670 have a voice recorder,and then u could jus save thru that and make a ringtone?



Posted by: MR.CLIFFORD

Quote:
Originally posted by Bumpon10s


On a more technical note, if you see the sound file is clipping (if you don't know what this is don't ask) turn the frequency down 1.5Db.

-Bumpon10s



How do you complete this process? Most of my ringers have to be cranked up a bit to hear them well on my P107. Makes it clip pretty bad but I can't find that command in Sound Forge. Thanks for the help.



Posted by: digital530

is this for voice ring tones



Posted by: Bumpon10s

Quote:
Originally posted by digital530
is this for voice ring tones


Yes, yes it is.



Posted by: kiisseli

When i change 44100--->8000HZ in Sound Forge, it sounds like it runs very slowly and it doesnt sound right anymore. How it can sound good with 8000HZ, help please!



Posted by: mauiss7

Thank you Bumpon10s! Followed your directions and it worked like a charm! Good step by step.



Posted by: Presskohle

Quote:
Originally posted by kiisseli
When i change 44100--->8000HZ in Sound Forge, it sounds like it runs very slowly and it doesnt sound right anymore. How it can sound good with 8000HZ, help please!


Take a look again. You changed the "Playback Rate" you need to change the "Sample Rate". I can´t tell you where to find that option in SoundForge, because I´m using GoldWave for editing.



Posted by: m00fie

Quote:
Originally posted by Bumpon10s

.........

On a more technical note, if you see the sound file is clipping (if you don't know what this is don't ask) turn the frequency down 1.5Db.

.........

-Bumpon10s


Anyone care to share how to tune this setting? Im sure it's something simple.



Posted by: shadtacular

Also why can they only be 10 seconds? My buddy has a Samsung with sprint that has up to like 30 seconds.



Posted by: jackandjill

HI

I tried to make mmf with vib+led using psm 3.80e but there was no led in the final ring.
Also the vibrator starts after 5-6 seconds.I want it to start with the tune.i have the following questions:
1)How do i make the vib to start with the tone?
2)How to get the led?
3)I tried to make the volume 500% using the same software through volume option but when i downloaded it, it was same as the earlier ringtone.What do i do?

I used 1999.mmf as input;it was not having any vib or led before.
I made volume 500% and went to Creat SMAF> SMAF 40 chords(selected vib and led) and saved the output using save as..

But i got the above results-no LED ,vib starts after 5-6 sec and volume has no change.

thanking you in advance,
jackandjill



Posted by: jackandjill

Hi

I want to add vib and led to some mmf tones I am having which do not have led and vib.

Which is the best software for this purpose?

They are only music tones not voice tones.
i have psm 3.80e,psm5.0,yamaha ATS-MA3-SMAF-140-e.

And how can i increase the volume ?
I am using samsung X600.



Posted by: jmn129

I followed the directions and i made my first ringtone. Thanxs. Only its not loud enough? How can i make it louder? I use my LG L1200 but i dont think its my phone since ive loaded some tones in the past and they sound fine. Thanx in advance.

-Jose-



Posted by: anekin007

what program do i use to increase the volume? i downloaded other peoples voicetones and they are louder then mines.



Posted by: fantaboy00

is it me or is tag-tag website running realy slow????



Posted by: Nazralte

Ok, I have GPRS, and I found a program to change Midi's to mmf's. However, when I do this, the mmf's sound like complete crap. I need a conversion program that can change formats and still keep the nice sound of the Midi.
The program im using now is called Mobile Music Polyphonic. Phone im using is the x426



Posted by: Da GoTTi

when i make a ring tone...how do i get it on the phone?

i am on SprintPCS and my phone is Samsung VI660



Posted by: Hagenx11

So does anyone have any cool ring tones? If soo please post to share with all!! I'm starting to make my own now!



Posted by: jmn129

I already used my trial version of sound forge 7.0, i was wondering if anyone know where i could get a free version of the whole thing or something similar? Or can i download it again and keep on using the free trial?
Thanxs
-Jose-



Posted by: kmraj

Greetings,

Thanks for the directions on getting the MP3>WAV>MMF. It works like a charm.

The question I have is in the latest version from the Yamaha site (MA-5 Authoring Tool Version 1.3.3.14) and it doesn't have the piano roll bar nor the other tools mentioned in this thread.

Have I downloaded the correct software? If not, what is the app version and link?

Thanks,

kmraj



Posted by: kp_bboy

is there any way to get the ring tones to be more than 10 seconds? tonn of ringtones that are downloadable are sometimes close to a minute



Posted by: lutcherfireboy

anybody want to make me a ringtones. I have a Samsunf E315. I would greatly appreciate it. I you would like to make it i have a couple of songs. My aim name is lutcherfireboy . Holla at me



Posted by: hatemyv710

ITunes is available as a free download (if you don't already have it). http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

from a 11/16/04 post on http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1007961.html

To edit MP3's in iTunes... I'm using iTunes version 4.7 on the Mac.
1. Open iTunes

2. Right click on a song (or ctrl click) to bring up the menu.

3. Choose "Get Info"

4. Choose "Options" page 5.
Set a start time and stop time (check both boxes and set times)

6. Click "OK"

7. Click on Advanced->Convert Selection to MP3 [or WAV] (if this is not an option that is showing up you have to go iTunes->Preference->Import-> and change it to MP3 or WAV encoder)

8. You will now have 2 versions of that song in your library - if you look in the time column one will be only 30" or whatever time you told it to start and stop at.


Then use the Yamaha to convert to Samsung format.



Posted by: slapshot2500

what does it mean when Easy GPRS says,"Can't select file"?



Posted by: Raab Himself

Quote:
Originally posted by slapshot2500
what does it mean when Easy GPRS says,"Can't select file"?


When that happens, I would put it in a dfferent location on your PC and then try selecting it again.



Posted by: slapshot2500

tried that...no die...should converting the ringtone from a wav again and trying it again change anything?



Posted by: rshabou

when i try to download a ring tone on to my e315 from tagtag.com i get a error BAD GATEWAY or other errors messages why is that? the ringotnes are mmf



Posted by: KRUNK

Does anyone know how to upload ringtones to a Samsung A620/VGA1000 without any downloaded ringtones.

Apparently according to tutorials I've read, you have to actually have a ringtone download in order to add a ringtone, well It's not really adding(according to the tutorial) it's replacing ????

WHERE'S THE FREE RINGTONE HERE??

Does anyone know how to upload any ringtones, wall papers, etc through a DATA CABLE ONLY any other way? I am missing something. VGA1000 users and others who know please help me out here.

I really don't want to have to pay for any downloaded things or use websites, thank you.



Posted by: Jamarthegreat

Quote:
I already used my trial version of sound forge 7.0, i was wondering if anyone know where i could get a free version of the whole thing or something similar? Or can i download it again and keep on using the free trial?

yeah does anybody have a code, since its trial software you can't DL it again, it was fun not paying for rigntones.



Posted by: Raab Himself

Quote:
Originally posted by KRUNK
Does anyone know how to upload ringtones to a Samsung A620/VGA1000 without any downloaded ringtones.

Apparently according to tutorials I've read, you have to actually have a ringtone download in order to add a ringtone, well It's not really adding(according to the tutorial) it's replacing ????

WHERE'S THE FREE RINGTONE HERE??

Does anyone know how to upload any ringtones, wall papers, etc through a DATA CABLE ONLY any other way? I am missing something. VGA1000 users and others who know please help me out here.

I really don't want to have to pay for any downloaded things or use websites, thank you.


The tutorial here is showing how to make your own mmf voice ringtones...for free. there is a huge thread i created here in the Samsung forums that has many ringtones



Posted by: wrldintlr

I have a Samsung D415 which I cannot for the ×××× life of me get to work. I've tried converting from MA-5 to MA-3, I've changed the bitrate, I've reduced it to 4 seconds and 14kb. I've done everything under the ×××× sun, and every time I try and download it I get a message "NOT ALLOWED" and also "FORBIDDEN". Does anyone know how to fix this?



Posted by: cockasian69

is there a way to make them longer than 10 seconds?



Posted by: Raab Himself

Quote:
Originally posted by cockasian69
is there a way to make them longer than 10 seconds?


you can make them as long as you want...but if you want to send it through easyGPRS then you can only send 40k which is only 10 seconds. If you want to send a longer tone, then load it up to wap site and download it



Posted by: cockasian69

Quote:
Originally posted by Raab Himself
you can make them as long as you want...but if you want to send it through easyGPRS then you can only send 40k which is only 10 seconds. If you want to send a longer tone, then load it up to wap site and download it



i tried that and that and the file didnt work on the phone.

No matter how long of wav file i have, the mmf always ends up at like 39k. Could it be a problem when converting with that converter? Should i be using a different sound converter?


Thanks



Posted by: cockasian69

nevermind i got it to work i think... atleast the file size is larger now. ill try downloading to the phone tomorrow



Posted by: LeBoBbEr

hey- i don't know if this question has been answered or not yet but how do you add vibration and light to the ringtones that i've created? i hav the sony forge and wsc-ma2 and i don't know how to add that stuff on there. thanx.



Posted by: escalibur

What this problem means "Unspupported MMF contents type". This comes when I have added some vib and led effects to the my tone which work perfectly except this vib and led.


Any help?



Posted by: escalibur

What this problem means "Unspupported MMF contents type". This comes when I have added some vib and led effects to the my tone which work perfectly except this vib and led.


Any help?



Posted by: dutd33

Quote:
Originally posted by Bumpon10s
PLEEEEEASE MODERATOR MAKE THIS A STICKY!!! ME AND RAAB HIMSELF HAVE BEEN PLAGUED TO NO END BY POSTS, PM'S , AND EMAILS!!!

That said here is how to do it...

First things first > Download these utilities.

Sony Sound Forge 7.0
Sound Forge 7.0 Download

Yamaha .WAV to SMAF Converter
Yamaha SMAF Converter Download

1. Select a audio file you want to make into a ringtone.

2. Find a section that makes for a good loop and is NO MORE than 10 seconds. (10.15 seems to be the total maximum).

3. Cut the sound out around it, leaving that 10 second clip.

4. Click save as, then under that dialog box click custom.

5. In this boxes below, change the items to:
Format - PCM uncompressed
Sample Rate (Hz) - 8.000
Bit Depth - 16
Channels - Mono
Then click ok, then save the file.

6. Drag your clip to Yamaha WAV to SMAF Converter, name the file then click ok, MAKE SURE IT IS NO MORE THAN 40.00KB.

7. Transfer the file to your phone via EasyGPRS, Tagtag.com or any other service you use but I recommend these two.

8. If all went well you should have a new custom ringer, enjoi!

On a more technical note, if you see the sound file is clipping (if you don't know what this is don't ask) turn the frequency down 1.5Db.

I hope this has helped everybody, and taught a few noobs make their own ringers.

-Bumpon10s


I've been converting MP3s, and I was wondering, how do I make them sound like your ringtone files where it's not distorted, but just uses the cords available in the phone? For example, I downloaded your Linkin Park - In The End.mmf ringtone, and it sounds awesome. How do I take a regular mp3 file and make it sound like that? Does it have to be in MIDI, and if it does, can I use Sound Forge to do it? Thanks!



Posted by: isme

can someone show me how to make it vibrate+led??

Thanks



Posted by: xplod4203

Tagtag.com is not working for some rason, are ther any other sietes that i can use. thx a bunch.



Posted by: balldizzy

Quote:
Originally posted by isme
can someone show me how to make it vibrate+led??

Thanks


i can't seem to get this to work either =/



Posted by: thelittleman

I wanted a long ringtone, so I made a 196kb ringtone and uploaded it to a wap site online (www.davidpye.com). However, when I try to download it with my e315, it says "Forbidden." What is going on?

THE little MAN



Posted by: Bumpon10s

Quote:
Originally posted by thelittleman
I wanted a long ringtone, so I made a 196kb ringtone and uploaded it to a wap site online (www.davidpye.com). However, when I try to download it with my e315, it says "Forbidden." What is going on?

THE little MAN


It has to be less than 32KB, sometimes it allows 40KB



Posted by: thelittleman

Well, Raab Himself said:

Quote:
you can make them as long as you want...but if you want to send it through easyGPRS then you can only send 40k which is only 10 seconds. If you want to send a longer tone, then load it up to wap site and download it


I understand that you can only go through 40 over a data cable, but according to him I can get a bigger file over WAP. However, when I try to download, it says "Forbidden."

Or, is there some way I could transfer this into a midi? I know that midi's have very small file size.

I would find it very stupid for Samsung to not support mp3's and limit sizes of ringtones to 40KB because that does not even allow for anything over 10-15 seconds in decent quality unless you have a midi.

THE little MAN



Posted by: Knellblast

I'm still waiting for someone to post a step-by-step on how to get vib. and LED on a voice ringtone. Many people here want to know how to do this as well, so if anyone has the knowledge, please pass it on! I downloaded PSM Player and fooled around with it for a bit, but I couldn't figure out how to make it vibrate and light up. Any help will be much appreciated.



Posted by: GenoG

this was helpful to me.



Posted by: GenoG

Is there any way to do all this using a MAC?



Posted by: Kinetics14

Ok, so it works but why is the sound quality so poor? I dont get it, its really quiet and muffled. On my LG 6k and my 8k its so loud and sounds great but this just sux. What can i do? I have followed the steps and it works, but i would like the sound quality to improve.
Thank
dave



Posted by: texashottie

Does anyone know how to make the volume louder. I got it to work but it seems not loud nuff. Not loud like the stock ringer is to very loud. My moto cutom ringers I make transfer Fing loud. Can I turn something up or change something to make it work.



Posted by: Klatu

Ok I'm having a little trouble here.... I'm trying to get a song on my g/f's samsung x427m.....

The wav is 9.8 seconds song and the mmf file is 35.7 KB

I upload it to jhonny.org/wap and when I try to download the mmf to the phone it says it can't display the page...

I've done this before with the current song and it worked fine with jhonny.org....

I registered for tagtag and it's still not letting me on (saying invalid username) but I guess that's cuz I registered only 10 minutes ago? *shrug*

Any help would be appreciated... I'm just trying to get the beginning of that "Akon - Lonely" song b/c she think's it's a funny little diddy



Posted by: Klatu

Well I've uploaded it to http://www.tagtag.com/jph and still not working... Same error message :-/

I followed the guide EXACTLY and tried it a few more times making the cound a lil shorter and all.. *sigh*

I hate samsung... So much easier to do this stuff on my motorola



Posted by: truzoom

I just wanted to point out that this works with the SGH-E315. It sounds rather bland @ 8khz mono, so I'm going to see if I can go any higher. Too bad I can't sync in led/vibe!



Posted by: taza.one

Anybody have a problem downloading the Yamaha converter for a Mac? The link doesn't seem to work.

Anyone with a D415 or on a Mac, if you chime in now, that would be great.



Posted by: prncess20

hello. i already saved the 10 sec file clip from a song i like ( i saved it in wav format...that was the default), but now i am having a problem with the yamaha converter. i opened it up and went to file...open. there i go to all file types and find my file. i click ok and i get the error message failed to convert. i get the same message when i try to drag it. it is driving me nuts. please help.



Posted by: stars-dust604

hi

is there any1 can show me the way to transfer ringtones to my p207??? as tagtag.com no working for me

and i got prob with my usb cable

thanz



Posted by: vampirex

samsung ringtone formats are mmf rite and they arent that big so how come when i make ringtones it goes up to onli 10 secs when i kno i can fit atleast 30secs or more of the song to my phone?!??!



Posted by: YoungXO

i tryed uploading ringtones to my phone using EasyGPRS, but everytime i hit upload it keeps saying failed. could somebody help me please...........





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