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Posted by: rpd189

Does anyone know if the 830 will have a status light?


Posted by: weilong

No.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ght#post2706504


Posted by: rpd189

××××! ok, thanks


Posted by: chris5h

And what really sucks is no disco light, so even eck's or codecannon's app wont work. Bummer.


Posted by: M1SCHA

isnt the LCD kind of like the disco light it flashes different colors and stuff. it might work.


I MIGHT BE WRONG THOUGH


Posted by: Phenomenon

RIP

Status Light




Posted by: orion007

Quote:
Originally posted by Phenomenon
RIP

Status Light


The outside LCD is the disco light so the app will work


Posted by: NextelsOnly

I think Moto is on heroin.


Posted by: firefly33

Since the i830 comes out tommorrow, does anyone know of a place to get a Carrying case for it?

Thanks


Posted by: GregGebhardt

You need to look at the accessory carry case they will have while selling the i830 tommorrow. It holds the phone sideways. I like it.


Posted by: lgreenberg

This company CPR Technology has two on their web site:

http://store.yahoo.com/nextel-acces...8acnei8ca1.html






Posted by: GregGebhardt

[QUOTE]Originally posted by lgreenberg
[B]This company CPR Technology has two on their web site:

The "on the side" case is the one I saw at Nextel. Don't like the vinyl though.

The verticle case looks very nice but how hard is it to get out. Nothing owrst than to have to fight to get the phone out of the case. Looks like it offers lots of protection.


Posted by: amc

I have noticed other people with the sideways one for other phones, probably those little Nokia phones, and always thought they were neat.
I'll have to check this new phone out in the next day or two and start trying to convince my wife to get it. She is a penny pincher, but probably good to keep me in check.


Posted by: townreb

NRS received 2 cases, a black snakeskin sideways pouch and a vertical body golve scuba case


Posted by: mustang492

Quote:
Originally posted by townreb
NRS received 2 cases, a black snakeskin sideways pouch and a vertical body golve scuba case

Personally, I would rather see a phone come with a body glove case. I never use my I730 clip cause the phone will just get banged up at work. The body glove protects it better and its easier to get in/out. When I had my I95 phone, I would sometimes drop it while clipping it into the holster b/c it would get caught on a shirt or I would think it was in all the way and would let it go and it would hit the ground. Body glove is just safer and easier. Glad to see Moto is including them with new phones


Posted by: Cooden

Yes folks, I do have a real i830. I got the silver one. I went to the local NRS store today and told the guy I wanted to add a new line to my girls account, but we wanted the i830. Lo & behold he says what color would you like. We activated a new line, took the i830 and ran. I paid for the phone right there on my charge card. My girl is going to cancel the line in 2 days (14-day return policy). We own the phone lock, stock and barrell. I really like the phone. I retract every negative statement I made about it. The phone is super small, feels great and performs awesome. I don't understand why people said that the keys felt cheap. I think that they feel good. The "OK" button on the nav key is integrated as one piece (the i730 if you notice has seperate button for the OK button), you have to barely touch the ok button and it responds. I like the way it works. Holster is awesome and holds the phone securely. I can't believe how light the phone is also. Feels like nothing is on my belt. This phone is going to get Nextel a lot of new customers. No one can say we don't have a small phone now. If you guys have any questions, let me know.


Posted by: Anisoul

So, you were able to get a new i830 the day before it was released? Lucky you!


Posted by: keolu

so by adding that new line to the existing account, did you get the phone at $299?


Posted by: theqase

Quote:
Originally posted by keolu
so by adding that new line to the existing account, did you get the phone at $299?



Yeah, i am curious about that too...

If i were to sign up as a new customer, could i get the phone for cheaper, and the cancel, as you say before 14 days, and get to keep the phone for that much?

or do you have to do the same thing, only adding another line, (which as he said, does that get you the discount?) and then cancelling...

hmm


Posted by: GOOSE13

Quote:
Originally posted by theqase
Yeah, i am curious about that too...

If i were to sign up as a new customer, could i get the phone for cheaper, and the cancel, as you say before 14 days, and get to keep the phone for that much?


hmm


It does not matter if you are a new customer or not anymore. It is based on the contract you sign up for. If you sign up for the 2-year agreement you will get the phone for cheaper.


Posted by: Cooden

I got the phone for $299.99. The thing you have to do is pay for the phone up front. That way when you call Nextel it shows equipment provided. I only paid $325 with tax.


Posted by: KBAM

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Quote:
Originally posted by theqase
Yeah, i am curious about that too...

If i were to sign up as a new customer, could i get the phone for cheaper, and the cancel, as you say before 14 days, and get to keep the phone for that much?


hmm


It does not matter if you are a new customer or not anymore. It is based on the contract you sign up for. If you sign up for the 2-year agreement you will get the phone for cheaper.


Am I missing something, or is there an issue here? Why would NXTL not charge back the subsidy if one killed the activation but kept the phone? --BAM


Posted by: KingGanon

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It does not matter if you are a new customer or not anymore. It is based on the contract you sign up for. If you sign up for the 2-year agreement you will get the phone for cheaper.


Am I missing something, or is there an issue here? Why would NXTL not charge back the subsidy if one killed the activation but kept the phone? --BAM [/B][/QUOTE]

because its within the 2 week limit of a new contract, if the person doesnt like the service or something, and they cancel with in 2 weeks of getting the new account, the cancellation fee is waived, and the person can keep the fone


Posted by: KBAM

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Originally posted by Cooden
I got the phone for $299.99. The thing you have to do is pay for the phone up front. That way when you call Nextel it shows equipment provided. I only paid $325 with tax.


Understand exactly what you're saying, Cooden. Guess NXTL's system isn't capable of trapping out this spoof because the purchase and the activation are "separated at birth." Kinda hatches a game and morality play along the lines of...Kazaa. --BAM


Posted by: carlthered

Just as a heads up, Nextel DOES read just about everything posted here...You might as well write to Nextel corporate offices and let them know that you are defrauding the company

Carl


Posted by: Cooden

Carl,

Snitches like you should be killed. We are talking about a phone and how to get one at $299.99. We don't need your little emoticon with the eyes rolling or your stupid comment. Obviously you a snitch and should be dealt with the right way


Posted by: acc6398

if you want out of the contract, you must return the phone, you can not just cancel the contract within 15 days and keep the phone, you must return it or you will be hit with the $299 charge on your final bill. Come on, Nextel is not stupid. Now you can keep the phone if you go beyond 15 days, you just have to pay the $200 early term fee plus pay for the phone. Why don't you just extend your contract and pay the $299 like any normal person would. This is why this business has such strict contracts etc, it is because someone thinks they can always get around the system and try to scam. This just sucks, good luck cancelling and trying to keep the phone.


Posted by: firefly33

Cooden,

Do the Keys touch the Display at all? I read in another thread that they do. Doesn't the phone have the little plastic knobs to keep the display off the keypad?

Thanks


Posted by: nextel4lfe

Quote:
Originally posted by Cooden
Carl,

Snitches like you should be killed. We are talking about a phone and how to get one at $299.99. We don't need your little emoticon with the eyes rolling or your stupid comment. Obviously you a snitch and should be dealt with the right way


lol

I did this when the 730 came out. At the time, my company was not going to upgrade our 90's for at least 2 months, so I signed up as a corporate account, got the phone for 199, put it under my name, since my work phone is just that a work phone, and bam, got the phone in the mail. I canceled the account 2 days later (would of been one day but was excited to play with the phone). The person wanted to know if there was anything they could do to keep me from canceling, but obviously I didnt really need the account since I have a work phone, and that was that. Got the 730 for 199 without ever signing a contract I was thinking of doing it again for the 830 if we are told we cant upgrade for a few months again. Just have to find out if my canceled account is still on there and if I could sign up again cause I "took a reinterest" in Nextel


Posted by: Next Steps

I know a dealer would charge you back for that phone. Generally, when you try to cancel within 15 days, the rep will tell you to call from the store or have the rep call to cancel. This is force you to actually return the unit. But, I am sure you can prolly get away with no returning the phone. I dont think Nextel has an offical policy in place about returning equipment after cancelling the number.

If you want a phone without contract, just buy it off ebay. Dont fraud Nextel that will eventually drive prices and upgrade/cancellation fees up.


Posted by: Cooden

Man you guys sure are haters. Did you not read my entire post? I paid for the phone up front, it shows EQUIPMENT PROVIDED! I didn't order the phone so that they would make me send it back. You have to know how to work the system, I am a Nextel dealer for the millionth time. I know how to work it. I paid for the phone on my credit card. I am just going to cancel the service. Stop threadjacking u jerkoffs. Go suck off nextel since you guys all think you own them.


Posted by: YoDude

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Understand exactly what you're saying, Cooden. Guess NXTL's system isn't capable of trapping out this spoof because the purchase and the activation are "separated at birth." Kinda hatches a game and morality play along the lines of...Kazaa. --BAM


You're putting way to much into this there Shakespeare. The subsidy is accounting smoke. Nextel didn't loose any money. Dude paid for the phone. By canceling within the 14 day period, Nextel didn't have to pay a commission.

What the dude did do was stiff the sales associate. He also beat the store out of stock that may have been alloted or is in limited quantities. This is why NRS should honor Nextel's upgrade policy and not hold new releases for new activations...

This behavior would be similar to having a fantastic dinner served to you at a fine restaurant. Paying the bill but not leaving a tip. The restaurant doesn't loose anything except maybe a good waiter who leaves because he can't feed his kids on a dead beats tips.


Posted by: nextel4lfe

Quote:
Originally posted by Next Steps
I know a dealer would charge you back for that phone. Generally, when you try to cancel within 15 days, the rep will tell you to call from the store or have the rep call to cancel. This is force you to actually return the unit. But, I am sure you can prolly get away with no returning the phone. I dont think Nextel has an offical policy in place about returning equipment after cancelling the number.

If you want a phone without contract, just buy it off ebay. Dont fraud Nextel that will eventually drive prices and upgrade/cancellation fees up.


I know I dont have to tell you, since we discussed it in another thread, that Nextel has in a sense robbed me, my coworkers, and my company not only money but time in what I have been having to deal with with them as of late. If you dont remember its all in the reception thread. Anyway, in my eyes, buying the 730 the way I did in October to save some money on my part does not hurt Nextel one bit, after going threw what not only me, and my coworkers have been going threw, but what my company pays and deals with, on a regular basis, with Nextel. Im sorry to say it, but its just the truth, as many of you know from talking to me about it, either in threads or in PM's. If I can do the same thing to get an 830, by all means, I will.


Posted by: nextel4lfe

Quote:
Originally posted by YoDude
You're putting way to much into this there Shakespeare. The subsidy is accounting smoke. Nextel didn't loose any money. Dude paid for the phone. By canceling within the 14 day period, Nextel didn't have to pay a commission.

What the dude did do was stiff the sales associate. He also beat the store out of stock that may have been alloted or is in limited quantities. This is why NRS should honor Nextel's upgrade policy and not hold new releases for new activations...

This behavior would be similar to having a fantastic dinner served to you at a fine restaurant. Paying the bill but not leaving a tip. The restaurant doesn't loose anything except maybe a good waiter who leaves because he can't feed his kids on a dead beats tips.


Well put. All you NRS people, maybe you should be so c*ckstiffed about upgrades now huh People will just activate a new line and cancel anyway. Soooo in the end, they get the better price, cause its a new activation, and you still loose out on a customer Bottom line to me, is in the end, you still should always make the customer happy. Its to bad retail is not like that anymore, anywhere, period. Im much happier buying pretty much everything online now.


Posted by: KBAM

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It does not matter if you are a new customer or not anymore. It is based on the contract you sign up for. If you sign up for the 2-year agreement you will get the phone for cheaper.


Am I missing something, or is there an issue here? Why would NXTL not charge back the subsidy if one killed the activation but kept the phone? --BAM


because its within the 2 week limit of a new contract, if the person doesnt like the service or something, and they cancel with in 2 weeks of getting the new account, the cancellation fee is waived, and the person can keep the fone[/b][/quote]

Right, King, but c'mon. At least admit that when you say "the person can keep the fone," you're saluting the Law of Unintended Consequences with a ringtone entitled "Back Door Anthem"! --BAM


Posted by: Next Steps

I have no sympathy or pity for NRS reps who dont do upgrades. But, mostly its because the store manager tells them not to do it. Most of the blame for the whole upgrade mess is their fault.


Posted by: Anisoul

I mean, I really don't understand what they don't or wouldn't do upgrades. I guess because they lose commission on the sales. But still, an existing customers should, in theory, have the same rights as a new customer. If we want to be 3 million for a phone, let use pay 3 million!


Posted by: nysteve

Quote:
Originally posted by Cooden
Man you guys sure are haters. Did you not read my entire post? I paid for the phone up front, it shows EQUIPMENT PROVIDED! I didn't order the phone so that they would make me send it back. You have to know how to work the system, I am a Nextel dealer for the millionth time. I know how to work it. I paid for the phone on my credit card. I am just going to cancel the service. Stop threadjacking u jerkoffs. Go suck off nextel since you guys all think you own them.
Let me try and get this straight.....So as a dealer you couldnt get it yourself? Instead you screw some other store out of commission money?


Posted by: Next Steps

Managers dont wanna lose their monthly bonuses for sales, activations, data, accessories, etc. They got quotas to keep and upgrades just get in the way in their mind. As a employee, I couldnt care less about what the customer wants the phone for. Just buy some other stuff besides the phone and I'll make enough money to be happy. I really dont think a store loses THAT many sales because they run out of stock. Its just an overhyped fear/myth that managers seem to have. Kind of tells you that the managers only care about one thing, their salary, and they dont really care about customers.


Posted by: nysteve

Quote:
Originally posted by Next Steps
Managers dont wanna lose their monthly bonuses for sales, activations, data, accessories, etc. They got quotas to keep and upgrades just get in the way in their mind. As a employee, I couldnt care less about what the customer wants the phone for. Just buy some other stuff besides the phone and I'll make enough money to be happy. I really dont think a store loses THAT many sales because they run out of stock. Its just an overhyped fear/myth that managers seem to have. Kind of tells you that the managers only care about one thing, their salary, and they dont really care about customers.
I've also heard about what your talking about and I just dont understand it, I own a store and it's just stupid. Do you make real money on upgrades? heck no, but if you please them they will bring a friend, family member etc... and thats a new acc. For the most part this gig is all about word of mouth and the best way to get thet is thru real customer service!


Posted by: KBAM

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Understand exactly what you're saying, Cooden. Guess NXTL's system isn't capable of trapping out this spoof because the purchase and the activation are "separated at birth." Kinda hatches a game and morality play along the lines of...Kazaa. --BAM


You're putting way to much into this there Shakespeare. The subsidy is accounting smoke. Nextel didn't loose any money. Dude paid for the phone. By canceling within the 14 day period, Nextel didn't have to pay a commission.

What the dude did do was stiff the sales associate. He also beat the store out of stock that may have been alloted or is in limited quantities. This is why NRS should honor Nextel's upgrade policy and not hold new releases for new activations...

This behavior would be similar to having a fantastic dinner served to you at a fine restaurant. Paying the bill but not leaving a tip. The restaurant doesn't loose anything except maybe a good waiter who leaves because he can't feed his kids on a dead beats tips.


Not passing judgment, Yo; you know it's not my thing. Just trying to coax out a discussion. Wish we had more of them, actually. Good analysis, and well said. Think we agree that subsidies are just an anti-churn maneuver and that locked phones are doomed. --BAM


Posted by: YoDude

Quote:
Originally posted by Next Steps
Managers dont wanna lose their monthly bonuses for sales, activations, data, accessories, etc. They got quotas to keep and upgrades just get in the way in their mind. As a employee, I couldnt care less about what the customer wants the phone for. Just buy some other stuff besides the phone and I'll make enough money to be happy. I really dont think a store loses THAT many sales because they run out of stock. Its just an overhyped fear/myth that managers seem to have. Kind of tells you that the managers only care about one thing, their salary, and they dont really care about customers.


That myth is fueled by the management bonus structure and the "Metrics", lol, that Nextel provides it's managers. They know from these that new acts buy more accessories, Insurance, and contribute to that magical number that gets them an invite to a golf course in Hawaii or wherever.
BTW, none of these "spiffs" are shared with their employee's. They are the "perks" of management. All this crap is what the subsidy is about. It is in effect a guarantee on investment and masks mismanagement.

The benefits of satisfying an existing customer may be greater, they are just not quantified.

A donkey trained with a carrot and a stick will pull a loaded cart right past a stand piled high with tasty apples trying to get to that dang carrot.


Posted by: KrAzE00YoUnG

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Originally posted by Cooden
Yes folks, I do have a real i830. I got the silver one. I went to the local NRS store today and told the guy I wanted to add a new line to my girls account, but we wanted the i830. Lo & behold he says what color would you like. We activated a new line, took the i830 and ran. I paid for the phone right there on my charge card. My girl is going to cancel the line in 2 days (14-day return policy). We own the phone lock, stock and barrell. I really like the phone. I retract every negative statement I made about it. The phone is super small, feels great and performs awesome. I don't understand why people said that the keys felt cheap. I think that they feel good. The "OK" button on the nav key is integrated as one piece (the i730 if you notice has seperate button for the OK button), you have to barely touch the ok button and it responds. I like the way it works. Holster is awesome and holds the phone securely. I can't believe how light the phone is also. Feels like nothing is on my belt. This phone is going to get Nextel a lot of new customers. No one can say we don't have a small phone now. If you guys have any questions, let me know.


Is the phone bigger or smaller than the i730? also how much was the phone and does the camera feature lagg and what do you mean cancel the plan? will you guys get the phone for free?


Posted by: Cheryl

OK OK.. Hold the freakin' phone....

1st of all NRS has NO such policy on refusing upgrades!

NRS may ask you to wait because of limited product & Nextel will usually offer a rebate of some sort if it is a nationwide shortage.

The guy screwed the sales person & the store as YODUDE stated, maybe even himself if he had an old phone to for the buy back.

The buyback program makes it cheaper for you to upgrade rather that churn - cause in reality that's all it is. (Hope you have Nextel stock so it bites you in the a*s in the long run.)

The person/store who sold the i830 will be dealt with by Nextel/NRS Corp. We have had the phone in inventory since last week and were severely warned not to open, display, and certainly not sell. See this is why Nextel would rather not have the phones @ the locations before the released dates - for some retard to sell it early - keep ××××××in it up for the rest of us.

As for "Cooden" I think your a reject, not because of the "scam" you think you were the first to pull off, (that's obviously what you though by creating an entire thread to try and prove how "cool" you'd like to be) but for the pure of the lack of respect you display here. i.e.: towards Carl. You made a comment that you know how to "work it" I hope you don't f*ck like you scam, since you like to take the "short" route and usually end just screwing yourself. Being a dealer (for the millionth time) you should have just upgrades you phone properly, sold back one of the many phones you have and saved more money the honest way.
It scares me you supposedly "own" a Nextel Store, I'm sure you meant an AUTHORIZED Nextel Dealer location, nevertheless it scares me that you choose to use the words like "such haters" "threadjacking" & "go suck off Nextel since you guys think you own them" in you posts.
Do we just approve anyone to sell Nextel nowadays?????
××××××ing Scary.


Posted by: Next Steps

Quote:
Originally posted by Cheryl
OK OK.. Hold the freakin' phone....

1st of all NRS has NO such policy on refusing upgrades!

NRS may ask you to wait because of limited product & Nextel will usually offer a rebate of some sort if it is a nationwide shortage.

The guy screwed the sales person & the store as YODUDE stated, maybe even himself if he had an old phone to for the buy back.

The buyback program makes it cheaper for you to upgrade rather that churn - cause in reality that's all it is. (Hope you have Nextel stock so it bites you in the a*s in the long run.)

The person/store who sold the i830 will be dealt with by Nextel/NRS Corp. We have had the phone in inventory since last week and were severely warned not to open, display, and certainly not sell. See this is why Nextel would rather not have the phones @ the locations before the released dates - for some retard to sell it early - keep ××××××in it up for the rest of us.

As for "Cooden" I think your a reject, not because of the "scam" you think you were the first to pull off, (that's obviously what you though by creating an entire thread to try and prove how "cool" you'd like to be) but for the pure of the lack of respect you display here. i.e.: towards Carl. You made a comment that you know how to "work it" I hope you don't f*ck like you scam, since you like to take the "short" route and usually end just screwing yourself. Being a dealer (for the millionth time) you should have just upgrades you phone properly, sold back one of the many phones you have and saved more money the honest way.
It scares me you supposedly "own" a Nextel Store, I'm sure you meant an AUTHORIZED Nextel Dealer location, nevertheless it scares me that you choose to use the words like "such haters" "threadjacking" & "go suck off Nextel since you guys think you own them" in you posts.
Do we just approve anyone to sell Nextel nowadays?????
××××××ing Scary.


This cat has claws!


Posted by: runagun

Quote:
Originally posted by Next Steps
I know a dealer would charge you back for that phone. Generally, when you try to cancel within 15 days, the rep will tell you to call from the store or have the rep call to cancel. This is force you to actually return the unit. But, I am sure you can prolly get away with no returning the phone. I dont think Nextel has an offical policy in place about returning equipment after cancelling the number.

If you want a phone without contract, just buy it off ebay. Dont fraud Nextel that will eventually drive prices and upgrade/cancellation fees up.


I don't think it right but Nextel is making huge amounts of money off the phones. Off $299 price they make more then $100 bucks on markup (profit). The only thing is all the paper work that guy had to right just for u to cancel 2 days later. I also think its a big mistake to buy now when in a month there gonna drop prices big time. but either way good luck.


Posted by: Cheryl

Hey" Next"
hiss hiss..

I'm just tired of this i830 already I have 30 @ my house ya want one>?? LOL


Posted by: Next Steps

Quote:
Originally posted by Cheryl
Hey" Next"
hiss hiss..

I'm just tired of this i830 already I have 30 @ my house ya want one>?? LOL


You have to be violating SOME kind of LP rules there! I know you dont got the storage, but ××××. BTW, my store only has 15 total right now. Wanna send me some to sell?


Posted by: Next Steps

Quote:
Originally posted by runagun
I don't think it right but Nextel is making huge amounts of money off the phones. Off $299 price they make more then $100 bucks on markup (profit). The only thing is all the paper work that guy had to right just for u to cancel 2 days later. I also think its a big mistake to buy now when in a month there gonna drop prices big time. but either way good luck.


$100 markup? You kidding me. Its nowhere NEAR that. I'd say its about break even at $299.99 for Nextel. Trust me, these things arent as cheap as everyone believes they are. Motorola has to make money too


Posted by: Cheryl

Ditto on both posts! They're better off here than my trunk - haha!
Uh yeah I'm kidding I have nothing @ my house did I say that? Crap, and I just got a 96 on my last LP audit.
I send ya some but they will probably be gone by COB tomorrow - upgrades!


Posted by: carlthered

Cooden,

I'm not a snitch - you are. Don't you get it? You just admitted *in a public forum* that you intend to defraud Nextel. That's snitching on yourself.

Nextel monitors these forums, as does Motorola. If you're going to defraud the company, don't post it on here. Better yet, don't defraud the company at all. That only hurts the company in the long run - and hurts you as a dealer, and me as a shareholder. Which means that I *do* own the company - at least a small part of it.

Carl

PS - Cheryl thanks for keeping my back

Quote:
Originally posted by Cooden
Carl,

Snitches like you should be killed. We are talking about a phone and how to get one at $299.99. We don't need your little emoticon with the eyes rolling or your stupid comment. Obviously you a snitch and should be dealt with the right way



Posted by: pw1981

My lord folks, its a PHONE for cryin out loud!


Posted by: MATRIXIXIX

Quote:
Originally posted by Cooden
Yes folks, I do have a real i830. I got the silver one. I went to the local NRS store today and told the guy I wanted to add a new line to my girls account, but we wanted the i830. Lo & behold he says what color would you like. We activated a new line, took the i830 and ran. I paid for the phone right there on my charge card. My girl is going to cancel the line in 2 days (14-day return policy). We own the phone lock, stock and barrell. I really like the phone. I retract every negative statement I made about it. The phone is super small, feels great and performs awesome. I don't understand why people said that the keys felt cheap. I think that they feel good. The "OK" button on the nav key is integrated as one piece (the i730 if you notice has seperate button for the OK button), you have to barely touch the ok button and it responds. I like the way it works. Holster is awesome and holds the phone securely. I can't believe how light the phone is also. Feels like nothing is on my belt. This phone is going to get Nextel a lot of new customers. No one can say we don't have a small phone now. If you guys have any questions, let me know.


You got a big f r i g g i n mouth.


Posted by: Cooden

Man, I didn't realize what loyal Nextel nerds we have here. I didn't try to stir up the pot here, I was stating what I liked about the phone. To all you NRS people out there, you obviously don't understand how authorized reps work. If I called on my account and wanted to upgrade to the i830, I COULD NOT upgrade for $299.99. Since I am on a dealer plan, they notice that in their computer. I have to pay $499.99 not $449.99, but $499.99 for each i830, plus $35 processing fee, plus $12 shipping, plus tax. Dealers have to pay an extra $50 on the phone at non-activation price because Nextel claims since we sell phones, we profit from it. Now, why in the hell should I pay almost $600 for a phone? But yet, nextel always says that the dealers should have the best phones to show customers the features and benefits, but Nextel won't help us on the pricing. Now, I am not trying to scam Nextel, but I have no other choice. What am I supposed to tell my customers that come in tommorrow to see this phone and want to play with it? I am not going to lose sales to the NRS store, so sorry if some of you NRS employees think I am scamming. I have employees to pay, numbers to make and bills to pay. Also, NRS reps are not familiar with BrightPoint. BrightPoint is the only authorized place to buy nextel branded accessories and also all the Nextel Phones. See, I am in a Partners market. We don't have master agents in Partners markets, everyone is their own dealer and answers for themselves. When you guys enter orders in your FDT or EOE system, the price you see for the phone is inflated costs. Nextel claims that a i730 costs them $254, when on Brightpoint we can buy them for $199.99. Now tell me how someone authrized by Nextel to sell all of their phones (including Nascar & Phat Farm) and all of the Nextel/Motorola Retail Packaged accessories has phones cheaper than Nextel's supposed costs? Trust me, Nextel makes money off every one of those phones. Those phones are not as expensive as you think. I got my i830, I am happy, I don't own Nextel stock, I am actually telling all of my friends to do this and any customers that want a upgrade. Nextel should take of their existing customers better. I am actually one of the top dealers in my market and I could care less. So when you guys say, they let anyone become a dealer, I was the first dealer to open a mall store for them. I care more about my customers being happy than stupid Nextel.


Posted by: alpswd3

So.... what to do if I walk into the NRS tommorow and they refuse to sell the phone as an upgrade, only as a new act.??? threaten to report them??


Posted by: LiQUID921

Quote:
Originally posted by alpswd3
So.... what to do if I walk into the NRS tommorow and they refuse to sell the phone as an upgrade, only as a new act.??? threaten to report them??


I'm wondering the same thing? but how about in a partners market?


Posted by: runagun

Quote:
Originally posted by Next Steps
$100 markup? You kidding me. Its nowhere NEAR that. I'd say its about break even at $299.99 for Nextel. Trust me, these things arent as cheap as everyone believes they are. Motorola has to make money too


Umm, Trust me there pulling more money per phone then anyone in the industry. there Cpga is high but its been coming down due to them making money on phones. U could even see that Southern Linc sells there phones much cheaper and they don't even have pricing power that Nextel. If u got the falcon power point check out the pricing and then u can get a rough idea on how much Nextel makes per phone. Goodluck!

P.S. No disrepect for u Next steps but there making a hella load of money on phones.


Posted by: M1SCHA

Quote:
Originally posted by LiQUID921
I'm wondering the same thing? but how about in a partners market?


wondering the same thing here.....?


Posted by: KBAM

Wirelessly posted (i95cl LE: MOT-85/01.05 UP.Browser/4.1.26m.737 UP.Link/4.2.3.5h)

Quote:
Originally posted by pw1981
My lord folks, its a PHONE for cryin out loud!


You raise the elemental question, pw. If it's just about phones, why all the hyperbole? Might the answer be that the phone is the essential vessel of empowerment? --BAM


Posted by: M1SCHA

×××× ur deep....


Posted by: KrAzE00YoUnG

STOP COMPLAINNG AND ANSWER MY QUESTION. IS THE CAMERA FEATURE ON THIS PHONE GOOD OR NOT? WHATS THE RESOLUTION AND DOES IT LAGG?


Posted by: Thug541

^^^ WOOOOOOOOW......first off, the ×××× phone doesn't have a camera. And second....well no second, you made urself look foolish enough.


Posted by: MRCHAMPAGNE

Can i use the same webjal that i am using now 2 load ring tones into the i830 or do i have 2 download another and if so,where can i get it..I also heard that the I830 load mp3 files and .wav files as ringtones. Is there any truth to this, let me know please.


Posted by: jazntiger

Alright, finally the i830 is officially out...but I'm still wondering what the word is about MO-SMS with Nextel? Will we ever get it? Thanks for the update.

[edit] I was just on Nextel's site and looked at the official i830 User's Guide: "Your phone receives SMS messages sent to its SMS address, but does not send SMS messages."

WHAT IS THIS?!?!?! I just want SMS,


Posted by: keolu

nextel's text messaging might not be the best for the users, but i would think it's really efficient for them because it uses the wireless web instead of sms access numbers. and it works fine. if it works fine, i dont think they would have big enough reason to switch to sms just to make it that much easier for us.

me and my friends (nextel and other providers) stopped using text messaging and now we just use aim to send text messages...


Posted by: Mastif

You might be out $200 bux...
I could be wrong but this is what is says...

Early Termination Component of Rate Structure - Nextel incurs a significant cost in activating Service to Customer, including a large up-front cost in offering Equipment to Customer. These costs are partially recouped over the length of Customer's Agreement with Nextel through monthly service rate charges to Customer, which have been established in part for this purpose. If Customer breaches this Agreement or terminates Service for any reason (including by porting its Phone number to another service provider), Customer understands and acknowledges that Nextel will not receive the full benefit of its Agreement with Customer, in part, because Nextel will not continue to receive monthly service charges from Customer. As a result, Nextel shall incur damages that are difficult, if not impossible, to determine. THEREFORE, IN THE CASE OF BREACH OR EARLY TERMINATION OF THE AGREEMENT BY CUSTOMER, CUSTOMER SHALL PAY TO NEXTEL, AS LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND NOT AS A PENALTY (IN ADDITION TO ALL AMOUNTS THEN OWED TO NEXTEL), $200 FOR EACH NUMBER ASSIGNED TO CUSTOMER'S ACCOUNT AS A REASONABLE ESTIMATE OF THE DAMAGES INCURRED BY NEXTEL. This is intended to maintain Nextel's overall rate at an acceptable level despite Customer's early termination and will be assessed without exception unless otherwise provided in this Agreement or by applicable law.


Posted by: goldenarm

You might be out $200 bux...
I could be wrong but this is what is says...

Early Termination Component of Rate Structure - Nextel incurs a significant cost in activating Service to Customer, including a large up-front cost in offering Equipment to Customer. These costs are partially recouped over the length of Customer's Agreement with Nextel through monthly service rate charges to Customer, which have been established in part for this purpose. If Customer breaches this Agreement or terminates Service for any reason (including by porting its Phone number to another service provider), Customer understands and acknowledges that Nextel will not receive the full benefit of its Agreement with Customer, in part, because Nextel will not continue to receive monthly service charges from Customer. As a result, Nextel shall incur damages that are difficult, if not impossible, to determine. THEREFORE, IN THE CASE OF BREACH OR EARLY TERMINATION OF THE AGREEMENT BY CUSTOMER, CUSTOMER SHALL PAY TO NEXTEL, AS LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND NOT AS A PENALTY (IN ADDITION TO ALL AMOUNTS THEN OWED TO NEXTEL), $200 FOR EACH NUMBER ASSIGNED TO CUSTOMER'S ACCOUNT AS A REASONABLE ESTIMATE OF THE DAMAGES INCURRED BY NEXTEL. This is intended to maintain Nextel's overall rate at an acceptable level despite Customer's early termination and will be assessed without exception unless otherwise provided in this Agreement or by applicable law.


for what i do understand this does not pertain before the 14 days before you are charged the termination fee of the $200.. anytime after those 14days you are liable for the termination fee , even if there is only 1 month left on contract.. but you would be crazy to terminate at that point


Posted by: blazer22

Quote:
Originally posted by KrAzE00YoUnG
STOP COMPLAINNG AND ANSWER MY QUESTION. IS THE CAMERA FEATURE ON THIS PHONE GOOD OR NOT? WHATS THE RESOLUTION AND DOES IT LAGG?
go be an idiot in the t-mobile forum


Posted by: s25843

Quote:
Originally posted by KrAzE00YoUnG
STOP COMPLAINNG AND ANSWER MY QUESTION. IS THE CAMERA FEATURE ON THIS PHONE GOOD OR NOT? WHATS THE RESOLUTION AND DOES IT LAGG?



bossy and dumb.... what a great combo


Posted by: nexteltier1

Retention will hit you with a 200 ETF if there is more than 15 minutes usage on the phone. the 15 day rule also applies with 15 minutes usage, and I have RARELY seen someone get an ETF fee get waived because they're not happy with the service. Only time I see it waived is when people buy a phone from a dealer who says they have coverage in their area when they indeed don't.


Posted by: Mookie

Quote:
Originally posted by nexteltier1
Retention will hit you with a 200 ETF if there is more than 15 minutes usage on the phone. the 15 day rule also applies with 15 minutes usage, and I have RARELY seen someone get an ETF fee get waived because they're not happy with the service. Only time I see it waived is when people buy a phone from a dealer who says they have coverage in their area when they indeed don't.
Simple: Don't use the phone!


Posted by: fiqtir

Quote:
Originally posted by runagun
Umm, Trust me there pulling more money per phone then anyone in the industry. there Cpga is high but its been coming down due to them making money on phones. U could even see that Southern Linc sells there phones much cheaper and they don't even have pricing power that Nextel. If u got the falcon power point check out the pricing and then u can get a rough idea on how much Nextel makes per phone. Goodluck!

P.S. No disrepect for u Next steps but there making a hella load of money on phones.


Next Steps' statement was correct. However, at $299.99 they are probably making a little profit on this phone. The same thing probably happened when the i730 was at $299.99. Now you can get the i730 for $119.99, and I am sure Nextel is taking a beating at that price. As I have stated countless times, the carriers sell the phones at a loss knowing they will more than make that up with the service they are in business to provide.


Posted by: Phenomenon

Ordered mine today. Cost me 299.00. I never had a i730 and my i95cl was falling apart so the upgrade made sense to me...


Posted by: Nextelcup

Wow alot of ×××××in in this thread. And why are you complaining you can not buy a unit thru a NRS store. They are their in malls mostly for walk up traffic to add new customers. Nextel provides many ways for customers to upgrade their units. Most orders are there the next day ( my experience) so unless you lost, crushed, soaked or got your phone stolen you can wait a day for a phone. If you cannot then you have issues. So I do not see why all these people are complaining they can not upgrade @ a NRS store. So to a DSC if you want a unit right away. They are there for upgrades. It amazes me the way some people act when it comes to cellphones.


Posted by: nexteltier1

The price I pay to purchase a phone as an employee is wholesale price. I will not state the prices of what I pay internally for these phones, but trust me, it is high. We buy them wholesale. We are not in the business of selling phones, our business is selling SERVICE. Motorola is in the business of selling phones.


Posted by: Phenomenon

Quote:
Originally posted by nexteltier1
The price I pay to purchase a phone as an employee is wholesale price. I will not state the prices of what I pay internally for these phones, but trust me, it is high. We buy them wholesale. We are not in the business of selling phones, our business is selling SERVICE. Motorola is in the business of selling phones.


I think most of the members here are complaining about NEXTEL'S price not motorolas price. Southern Linc is selling the EXACT phone for 189, and Nextel sells is for 299 with two year agreement. They're just saying it could be less. But I don't blame Nextel. They're also here to make money, so...


Posted by: tDAWG

Please what are the advantages of web based messaging????
Lets see web based - 1.slower upload times, 2.every menu uses the web which adds on the time to write one, 3.no service no writing a draft for later. 4.cant see the message when in a call. it has two advantages 500 characters and group sending.

mo sms - exact opposite of above.

web based saves Nextel money supposly. And where mms again?? powerpoint presentations are becoming lies now.


Posted by: gmoreno

There is no reason for Nextel to switch. It would be nice to have sms. When I play with phones at work it is so easy to send out and recieve text messages with real sms.


Posted by: gmoreno

Anyways. I think that our phones i90 and newer can do sms but nextel dosent have it setup that way. ALthough I think if you have certain pay per use messaging socs it would be like sms. Just our text msging is cheaper.(non pay per use)


Posted by: krazyrican20

ok i got a question when i get a new line do they tack on another 2 yrs to the deal or should it just go on the the existing deal ?


Posted by: Mookie

Quote:
Originally posted by krazyrican20
ok i got a question when i get a new line do they tack on another 2 yrs to the deal or should it just go on the the existing deal ?
Each new line requires a seperate contract.


Posted by: weilong

Quote:
Originally posted by tDAWG
Please what are the advantages of web based messaging????
Lets see web based - 1.slower upload times, 2.every menu uses the web which adds on the time to write one, 3.no service no writing a draft for later. 4.cant see the message when in a call. it has two advantages 500 characters and group sending.


5. You can't text someone's name--you have to memorize their phone number.


Posted by: krazyrican20

Thanks for the info Mookie ....so what i do is get the phone with the new contract then cancel it in a couple of days ?? And for all the haters all other phones besides nextel arent that expenise when you buy them at retail and they have like alot of cool features so stop the hating you dont own nextel....lol


Posted by: jj1814

Quote:
Originally posted by Cooden
Yes folks, I do have a real i830. I got the silver one. I went to the local NRS store today and told the guy I wanted to add a new line to my girls account, but we wanted the i830. Lo & behold he says what color would you like. We activated a new line, took the i830 and ran. I paid for the phone right there on my charge card.


ok now I'm confused. I thought you owned a Nextel Store?

http://howardforums.com/showthread....606#post3023606


Posted by: GregGebhardt

Quote:
Originally posted by Cooden
I got the phone for $299.99. The thing you have to do is pay for the phone up front. That way when you call Nextel it shows equipment provided. I only paid $325 with tax.


Anyone can get the $299 by signing a 2 year contract.


Posted by: mcpaulyb

I upgraded thru corporate sales, signed a 2-year extension, and am getting the phone for $149 after rebate. Not a bad deal at all.


Posted by: Stevenek

how much for corp with out agreement.. want to buy me one ill send ya money....


Posted by: jj1814

$199


Posted by: mcpaulyb

It don't think you can just keep buying the phones for $199, through corp telesales. I could be wrong though. I had to sign a 2-yr agreement but someone else said that you don't need to sign on for 2 yrs to get it for $199. I'll call later and find out.


Posted by: mcpaulyb

You DO need to sign on for 2 years to get the $50 rebate though.


Posted by: Nextelcup

most other companies havemore than one supplier as well so that helps lower the price. And Nextel is not geared to the 19 yr old idiot it is more for companies which will eithe rpay that or get a discount.


Posted by: nemov3

the problem i have besides you cant see the persons name, is that when you reply to a message it sends the whole body of their message...ie "reply to what are you doing today? nothing"

any way to change that?


Posted by: chris975d

Has anyone that has the i830 and upgraded from i730 noticed improved reception? I live in a "fringe" area for reception, and normally to get any kind of usable signal, if any at all, I had to have the i730's antenna extended(maybe a "bar" of service, and call usually dropped pretty quickly). Now, at home with the i830, i don't even have to extend the antenna to get good signal. Calls are very crisp and clear, and haven't had a "drop" since I got the phone Sat. Also, connecting to web and using 2-way messaging are alot quicker as well. Anyone else notice greatly improved reception between the i830 and i730?


Posted by: HaTaX

Did you have a phone before the i730? In my opinion, it's the i730 that was causing the problems, the i730 I had was nothing but junk and when I replaced it with a 7510, it was a world of difference... Glad to hear the i830 is picking up well


Posted by: Nextel_Maniac

Hey guys...I was up at the NRS today and got to look at the i830 (I decided to pick one up anyway...alot cooler in person)...anyway, I'm just wondering the software that came on your phone. I noticed that EVERY bronze they had was R2B.00.00 and every silver they had was R2B.00.01...I was going to pick up the bronze and saw that the silver had a newer software...so I'm curious...what does yours have?

PLEASE POST YOUR SW BUILD DATE AND COLOR AS WELL

PLEASE IF YOU USE THE POLL, ALSO POST YOUR SW BUILD DATE AND COLOR...


Posted by: KBAM

Wirelessly posted (i95cl LE: MOT-85/01.05 UP.Browser/4.1.26m.737 UP.Link/4.2.3.5h)

Quote:
Originally posted by Nextel_Maniac
Hey guys...I was up at the NRS today and got to look at the i830 (I decided to pick one up anyway...alot cooler in person)...anyway, I'm just wondering the software that came on your phone. I noticed that EVERY bronze they had was R2B.00.00 and every silver they had was R2B.00.01...I was going to pick up the bronze and saw that the silver had a newer software...so I'm curious...what does yours have?


Interesting, Maniac. We need the build dates posted to think this through. --BAM


Posted by: Nextel_Maniac

my software build date for my silver i830 is Tuesday, May 4th. Software version is R2B.00.01.


Posted by: GregGebhardt

Quote:
Originally posted by chris975d
Has anyone that has the i830 and upgraded from i730 noticed improved reception? I live in a "fringe" area for reception, and normally to get any kind of usable signal, if any at all, I had to have the i730's antenna extended(maybe a "bar" of service, and call usually dropped pretty quickly). Now, at home with the i830, i don't even have to extend the antenna to get good signal. Calls are very crisp and clear, and haven't had a "drop" since I got the phone Sat. Also, connecting to web and using 2-way messaging are alot quicker as well. Anyone else notice greatly improved reception between the i830 and i730?


There is a place in Jacksonville that I always loose my call, this Saturday the i830 went right thru it with 2 bars showing, got all full bars just about everywhere else.

This is compared to my i730, but I would have been happy if it was as good and looks like it is better! Got the larger battery and battery door comming tomm.

Only dislike, the OK button takes getting used to but after a few times you realise it only take a very small amount of pressure to activate.

Overall I like the i830 and it small size.


Posted by: KStrike155

I thought I read somewhere that the i830 had a button to open the flip...

Is this true or am I mistaken and that was the i860.

Thanks guys.

(By the way, wanted to actually go SEE the phone today and maybe pick one up, but around here they don't even have them yet! They said Thursday )

-Brian


Posted by: Nextel_Maniac

It's the i860 and up...not the i830!

N_M


Posted by: Canibus

i860 / i930


Posted by: heykrazie

no the 830 doesnt come with a flip, just bought mine today. Alot thinner then the 730, The 860 is the one that comes with the flip.


Posted by: Nextel_Maniac

Quote:
Originally posted by heykrazie
no the 830 doesnt come with a flip, just bought mine today. Alot thinner then the 730, The 860 is the one that comes with the flip.


Last I checked, my i830 is a flip phone...I think is what you are meaning to say is that it doesn't have the button to open the flip!


Posted by: heykrazie

My build date is May 4th 2004 and thw sw is R2B.00.01 I picked up the silver one, alot better looking thin person.


Posted by: jaustin

yeah, like the rest of the people said it was the i860 and the i930

Just an idea, why dont you order the phone?


Posted by: heykrazie

Quote:
Originally posted by mcpaulyb
It don't think you can just keep buying the phones for $199, through corp telesales. I could be wrong though. I had to sign a 2-yr agreement but someone else said that you don't need to sign on for 2 yrs to get it for $199. I'll call later and find out.
I just picked my 830 up today, i got the corp. discount and walked out with a total of 187.49, cant really beat that price. the phone requires the two year contract, with out the contract the phone is $299.


Posted by: Nextelcup

see now reps have told me corporate and government discounts only are for new activation and not upgrades. Obviously I was lied too or someone does not know how to do their job


Posted by: chris975d

The "OK" button, and the buttons in general are my only real complaint. Especially using 2-way messaging, I can't "tell" if i've actually "activated" the button or not without looking at the screen(can type fairly fast on the keypad, but hard to tell if you've pressed the key the correct number of times--no "feel"). Also, I've hit the OK button several times by accident, trying to use the directional arrows(so small/close together).
But so far, i'm very happy with my i830. It's what I expected out of the i730 in the first place. (except smaller!!).


Posted by: KBAM

Wirelessly posted (i95cl LE: MOT-85/01.05 UP.Browser/4.1.26m.737 UP.Link/4.2.3.5h)

Quote:
Originally posted by Nextel_Maniac
my software build date for my silver i830 is Tuesday, May 4th. Software version is R2B.00.01.


Ok, we still need to hear from others. Wonder if any coppers shipped with .01? Seems likely MOT used the delay to slipstream the .01 version and limit the number of .00s in the field. But we can't tell if software was the actual reason for the intro delay to June 1st. --BAM


Posted by: heykrazie

I upgraded from 95 to an 830 today. I got the corp. discount so the phone was $199, they gave me $50 for my 95 and i walked out of the store paying $187. so yes you can get the discount with an upgrade.


Posted by: chris975d

Quote:
Originally posted by HaTaX
Did you have a phone before the i730? In my opinion, it's the i730 that was causing the problems, the i730 I had was nothing but junk and when I replaced it with a 7510, it was a world of difference... Glad to hear the i830 is picking up well


Yeah, I had the i95 before the i730. Where I live, the i95 was a little better, but still had crackling/dropped calls alot(although Nextel has expanded coverage here a little since then). So far though, the i830 is blowing both of them away in the RF department....SO FAR. Haven't encountered any other problems/bugs to this point.


Posted by: KStrike155

Quote:
Originally posted by jaustin

Just an idea, why dont you order the phone?


I'm not sure if I like it yet... I don't really like the pictures online, but everyone says it looks so much better in person.

I called up about 6 stores and they all said that they wouldn't have them for a few days because it "hasn't been released yet"

Also, I don't know if I can justify the cost of buying it just for a smaller i730 and randomized wallpapers, unless I really DO get better service and no more fluctuating signal strength (NO SERVICE to full bars is just unacceptable IMO).

Thanks for all of the replies (even if they all may be repetitious ).

-Brian


Posted by: mcpaulyb

Quote:
Originally posted by heykrazie
I upgraded from 95 to an 830 today. I got the corp. discount so the phone was $199, they gave me $50 for my 95 and i walked out of the store paying $187. so yes you can get the discount with an upgrade.


do you need to extend by 2 years?


Posted by: cor9123

what states are you guys in?


Posted by: cor9123

What the hell!! i just talked to nextel and they said that even with an extension its still $299


Posted by: pillar

Quote:
Originally posted by cor9123
What the hell!! i just talked to nextel and they said that even with an extension its still $299


I was told the same thing by a very nice CS rep for partners.


Posted by: KS4VT

I was waiting for some performance posts before I go buy the wife a new phone fer her b-day. Looks like the 830 will be the choice to go with even if it costs more than the 730, I would hate to hear her ×××××in if I got her the 730 and she had problems with it. I rather keep her happy although she will have a newer phone than me!!!


Posted by: Hshah00

Quote:
Originally posted by jj1814
$199


dont u mean $299


Posted by: YTV

Just upgraded both my phones to i830 for $199 with 2-year extension. I asked the rep if he was sure if i get a discount on upgrades, because I never did before, only when I added another line, he said yes that its new policy, but only available if you agree to the 2-year. If i wanted 1 year it was full price $349.

So if your under a corporate account i would definately go through corporate Telesales.

My total for 2 phones, car charger, tax, and 1-2 day shipping was $474.XX


Posted by: heykrazie

Quote:
Originally posted by cor9123
what states are you guys in?
Im im California. If your in So Cal the NRS at Puente Hills Mall will give you the discount with an upgrade.


Posted by: forumpeon

I just upgraded via nextel corperate telesales, here were my totals:
Phone: $199.99
Upgrade Fee: $15.00
Taxes: $40.78
Shipping: $8.50

Plus a $50 mail-in rebate


Posted by: Next Steps

Guys. Here is how Corp/Gov pricing works with upgrades:

1) There is a list of specific corps and gov agencies that get FLAT RATE pricing on upgrades. Not all customers will be on the list. In general, I'd say only like 50-60% of the accounts will qualify.

2) Normally, if you DO qualify for flat rate pricing on upgrades, you do NOT qualify for the mail in rebate. If you're not on the list, then you pay regular price and you can get the rebate.

3) This will require a 2 year extention and an upgrade will most likely apply, unless your corp/gov account has a special note that will waive the fee.

Telesales or the NRS you go to has the list, so you need to call in and check with them to see if you can get the discount. Like I said, its about a 50/50 chance.


Posted by: 94mustangv6

i was wondering, and this may have already been asked...but is the 830 seem like a durable phone. i ask this because my mom is switching to nextel because of this phone and the copper color matches her new kitchen. is the phone made out of metal like the v60's or plastic and if you scratch it will the color scratch off showing a nasty color underneath.


Posted by: GregGebhardt

It seems to be metal, probly anodized. It would scratch as it is not copper thru and thru. As far as build quality, I like it very much. Better than the i730 which mine made noises.

No matter what they make it out of, it could be scratched. Had the choice between the silver and copper and took the copper.


Posted by: yuhh

You will not be offered the 50 Dollar rebate if you recieve the flat rate price of 199.

And how was your taxes 40 bucks mine was 22 and NY taxes are nuts.


Posted by: Elevatorguy

What do you have to do to get this $50 rebate? Anyone have a link to it anywhere on the web?

Thanks


Posted by: jazntiger

all of the above reasons are why I want SMS, also, when 2-waying between different carriers I find there is a HUGE lag between when the texts are sent and received...and in many of my cases, the texts aren't even received anymore. Just becoming very frustrating to use 2-way through the web. Of course, because I need it, I will continue to use and pay for it. I just really hope they'll release SMS sometime soon.


Posted by: Canibus

When i ordered my 830 i asked about the $50 rebate they said they had no idea what i was talkin about and were told to sell the phones @ the prices they stated which i dont need to post u guys already kno.
This might be floating around but i'm gon post it anyway

https://nextel.archway.com/run/Look...omotion=2460018

thats a link to get the rebate


Posted by: Next Steps

https://nextel.archway.com/run/Look...omotion=2460018

Also, California state law requires tax on the FULL price of the phones. So, an 830 may only be $200 or $300, but you're taxed on $449.99. I dunno why CA taxes has to be like that, but I am glad I dont live in California!


Posted by: forumpeon

california taxes are 7.75%


Posted by: KiNG Of CeLLZ

thanks canibus


Posted by: opel

good find!


Posted by: KiNG Of CeLLZ

just get a sidekick thats what i did works great even though im on my 3rd one lol its cheap but tmo replaces em for free


Posted by: docrootcanal

copper all the way----its different


Posted by: DanITman

Right now all corporate accounts get flate rate pricing on equipment when you have a new activationa. They are only a handfull of companies that recieve the flat rate pricing on upgrades. A lot of Nextel employees are suppose to look it up to see what pricing your company recieves. A lot of telesales people don't take the time to do this.

In regards to the rebates, its my understanding that EVP's accounts do not recieve the rebate incentives because they do receive the phone at such a discount.


Posted by: 94mustangv6

i understand that the copper could still scratch even if it was an adodized finish, i was just curious because when the plastic of my i730 scratches it leave this nasy primer color. but when the battery cover scratches it is just a scratch in the metal. i was just wondering. but if the 830 is made of metal, that would be great even if it is just anodized.


Posted by: wjpooley

what's the number for copr telesales again? I've seen a lot of different numbers that all claim to the only one.


Posted by: Dispatcher319

Whats the num for corp telisales anyone have it handy?


Posted by: MacFly

this was the main reason why i left nextel! i do alot of SMS msg'ing........and it got on my last nerve that i had to get on the web to send and receive txt msg's!

other than that, gotta love nextel and their free incoming plans!


Posted by: xxipimpyou69xx

Mods i thought this would be a good idea so we dont have a million i830 threads floating around so if maybe this can get stickied and merged with all the other i830 threads i think it would clean the main board up a little bit. Thanks.


Posted by: Dnicekid

Quote:
Originally posted by heykrazie
I just picked my 830 up today, i got the corp. discount and walked out with a total of 187.49, cant really beat that price. the phone requires the two year contract, with out the contract the phone is $299.
\how did you get it for 187 thought it was 199 flat evp price?


Posted by: Nadeavelli

I think the one question I haven't seen answered is what are the settings for the mp3 tones?


Posted by: GregGebhardt

Excellent replacement for the i730. Way better reception and better speaker.

The OK button is OK. Try just barely pushing it. It quite sensitive and only takes slight pressure compared to the up-down-left-right buttons. Good build quality. My larger standard batttery and door will arrive tomm. I must have got the last as they are now out of stock and only have slim. I got a tracking number on mine.

The phone is small but a very nice replacement for the i730.


Posted by: Dispatcher319

I just ordered my i830 be here on thursday and flat rate was 199 for the 2 years and with out was 499. By the way telisalse num is 1-866-805-9890. Nice people there too.


Posted by: wjpooley

Just called. Guess I don't get anything special. $299 with a 2-yr service agreement. I'm only on Corp. for the discount they give my college (GO GVSU!) 10% on bill, and nothing on anything else. Anyone got a school that I can say I'm transferring to that has an awesome discount, or anyone wanna change my account to something else that gets me discounts? lol.


Posted by: shanezam203

Quote:
Originally posted by Dnicekid
\how did you get it for 187 thought it was 199 flat evp price?

I'm pretty sure he traded an i95 in for $50. so he got it for $150 + tax... I've been hearing some corperate customers even the ones that got it for $200 still get the rebate. We'll have to wait and see if they ever get it.
Shane


Posted by: skadoo323

after submitting all of the required info at that web site link, do you get some kind of confirmation?


Posted by: Canibus

not sure ididnt do it yet, i'll do it tomorrow. But you can check the status of ur rebate check that out


Posted by: Nighthawk

GOt some questions: 1.How does the ringtones sound? 2. Is it able to put voice ringtones or whatever? 3.How does the picture look quality? 4.Better than the i95/730 or the same?


thanks


Posted by: KStrike155

Does anybody have any pictures of the OUTER LCD in action? I want to see what it looks like.

Quote:
3.How does the picture look quality? 4.Better than the i95/730 or the same?


The picture quality will be the same as the i730. It has exactly the same screen and has 65,000 colors.


Posted by: Dnicekid

Quote:
Originally posted by shanezam203
I'm pretty sure he traded an i95 in for $50. so he got it for $150 + tax... I've been hearing some corperate customers even the ones that got it for $200 still get the rebate. We'll have to wait and see if they ever get it.
Shane
just spoke with nextel buy back and will get 250 for my 730 530 and i95 not bad ehhthen hopefully will get 50 rebate x2 so 2 830s =450(incl tax etc) minus 250 buyback-100 rebate =100 not bad (cross my fingers)


Posted by: DanITman

Quote:
Originally posted by Dnicekid
\how did you get it for 187 thought it was 199 flat evp price?


If you would continue to read you would find out.

Quote:
Originally posted by heykrazie
I upgraded from 95 to an 830 today. I got the corp. discount so the phone was $199, they gave me $50 for my 95 and i walked out of the store paying $187. so yes you can get the discount with an upgrade.






Posted by: Dnicekid

Quote:
Originally posted by wmustudent99
If you would continue to read you would find out.

i did thanks


Posted by: eckoman001

whos i830 says DO. when the phone starts up


Posted by: eckoman001

whos i830 says DO. when it starts up


Posted by: BadBoy22

Quote:
Originally posted by eckoman001
whos i830 says DO. when it starts up


I think all of them do. I saw 3 with that. I like the end. Do.Done.Nextel (or something like that) I too don't really like the ok button cause i have big hands but seemed to hold a signal a little better. I just hope a loader works for it.


Posted by: vietalogy

yea the new webjal has an option for mp3's imma try to load one.


Posted by: nannhere

I've been trying to load mp3s onto the i830...no luck...anyone been successful....i read the format is 11025Hz, 16-bit, Stereo but still I get a comm error at the end. If someone is successful please post the specs and the mp3 file loaded so I can chk if its my webjal version/crack (03).

also, i've loaded moving gifs into "my pictures" folder...not sure if they had that on the 730...heard you can make these your startups.

thanks.


Posted by: nextel50

ok, so who is going to answer the sucky battery life question, how bad is it, and when should we expect the standard battery to come out for it?


Posted by: NextelSarah

something I've been wondering and reading a little bit about is the smaller speaker causing the phone to be quieter when it rings...

obviously if the speaker is smaller, the rings will be not be quite as loud as the other phones, but the question is - is it still a true nextel phone where it can blast your ear off if you have it on the loudest volume option? as annoying as it can be if you forget to turn it down in public settings, its great for when you have the music up in the car, or the phone in a different room of the house, or even a ring in a busy people setting- I LOVE my loud as heck i90 and wouldn't trade it for the world...


I'd like to find someone who's gone from the 90 to the 830 and can let me know what they think about it... or someone who had a 90 then a 730 and now a 830 and can give me their opinion. I'm truly trying to hold out for the 930 but it could be a year yet before we even see that phone, so I thought maybe this could be a bridge, because regardless of what I decide on the 830 I know i'm getting the 930.....

I really hate to see that the battery life is crappy because my 90 can pretty much go a full day and then a night without charging, if i'm lucky and not high usage that day.... but I suppose as long as the phone can go a full day I'd be alright with it. What's the listed talk time and standby time for the 90? I have a close to brand new i90 because the flip broke on my old one and the nextel store gave me a refurb but its almost perfect.........

I'm just not one for change, and if this phone is really really different and hard to get used to it might not be worth my $300 or whatever it is to upgrade to w/o activation. But I am really sick of the huge brick of a 90 that I carry around and would love something new, but can't quite decide.

Main thing is the speaker volume, battery life, better signal (i too have trouble catching more than a bar in my house...!) price. I've seen people getting it from Corp for $199 with a 2 year plan extension... but haven't heard anything about the price for a regular nextel customer with upgrade. I'd imagine you have to have a corporate account to get the sweet deal.

Okay Sarah seriously stop talking and press submit reply.


Posted by: nemov3

i dont txt msg alot anymore because it is slightly annoying.


Posted by: sanza_blanco

For modding purposes has anyone taken the phone apart? If so can the front silver/copper panel be removed?


Posted by: NextelNutt

I have written about the talk time and stand by time in another thread, so do a search for threads that I have done in the last month and you find the info you want.


Posted by: MATRIXIXIX

Quote:
Originally posted by chris975d
Has anyone that has the i830 and upgraded from i730 noticed improved reception? I live in a "fringe" area for reception, and normally to get any kind of usable signal, if any at all, I had to have the i730's antenna extended(maybe a "bar" of service, and call usually dropped pretty quickly). Now, at home with the i830, i don't even have to extend the antenna to get good signal. Calls are very crisp and clear, and haven't had a "drop" since I got the phone Sat. Also, connecting to web and using 2-way messaging are alot quicker as well. Anyone else notice greatly improved reception between the i830 and i730?


In response to this post:

I find this very odd. I also have a similar story. I live in a 22 story building and I park in a parking garage 2 stories underground. I never get service. However I pulled into my garage as usual, ended my phone call asusual because normally it would cut off, parked my car and began another call. It was only after the call I realized I was still in my parking garage on my 830!!! Odd.

Steve


Posted by: bmwman84

the i830 is garbage ..it looks liek someone put a lump of metal together and ecided to make it 3.6 inches in length and .8 inches widfe.. its horrible.. they decided to put the led screen on the bottom or else it would look like a smaller and thinner version of the i90.. i think nextel did this just to prepare for the i860 and i930..


Posted by: Infinyte8

Whats the battery life compared to the i730? does it last all day?


Posted by: Chaoss

battery doesnt last much...I use my phone a lot through out the day.
I love the fact that my i830's signal doesnt fluctuate all the time...
check my sig out for some pix


Posted by: Infinyte8

Quote:
Originally posted by bmwman84
the i830 is garbage ..it looks liek someone put a lump of metal together and ecided to make it 3.6 inches in length and .8 inches widfe.. its horrible.. they decided to put the led screen on the bottom or else it would look like a smaller and thinner version of the i90.. i think nextel did this just to prepare for the i860 and i930..


great first post!


Posted by: KStrike155

×××× man I thought that the backlight was blue! That's kind of a turnoff for me...

If the backlight was blue I would spring on the i830... now I'm not so sure...


Posted by: Chaoss

that's fastasseg...he was banned a couple hours ago


Posted by: Chaoss

it is blue....thats just the status light


Posted by: KStrike155

Quote:
Originally posted by Chaoss
it is blue....thats just the status light


So the entire screen is the Statuslight? That is SWEET.


Posted by: Chaoss

well not from Motorola...just get the java app and it will be a status light


Posted by: RobNyc

Interesting post...


Posted by: KStrike155

Oh OK so the same Statuslight App that I use on my i730 will work on the i830. Basically the screen acts as the disco light. That's pretty sweet anyways if you ask me...

I love my Statuslight app


Posted by: OYSTER RSX

as many of you may already know the new i830's are backordered...i am awaiting its arrival my self, and nextel told me they dont have a specified date for it to come in...which is pretty xxxxxxx annoying because they dont stop you from ordering it they just tell you its "low stock"!!!!! anyway, does any one have any information regarding its return to good ol' NEXTEL? please let me know thanks....


Posted by: NextelSarah

Wow that's really neat! The status light app you're talking about - so it does blue for normal and red for no service? Or what. What a neat thing!

Man I'm such a sucker for color changing backlights......


Posted by: Maximamike

Silver and R2B.00.01. May 4th build date. I saw a copper one and it had the same build date but I don't remember the version..


Posted by: JOKER

Mine is bronze, build date 5/4.......R2B.00.01


Posted by: KStrike155

The Statuslight App changes colors that are programable...

For instance lets say you want the light to be blue when you have full service. You go into the menus and choose Signal 5 - Blue

There are 7 backgrounds. Blue, Cyan, Green, Magenta, Red, White, and Yellow.

All are programable to 6 different signal strengths.

I'm assuming it's the same as the i830 considering it's just a Java App....


Posted by: RobNyc

So you can go to the menu and change the light status?
Even with i730?


Posted by: boostmiser

I just switched from Verizon to Nextel. I used a v60i which was/is a great phone.
Not sure there is anything to complain about with the v60i. No, it doesn't have many colorful features, but it's a phone and it does it's job well. My wife loved the phone too.
On to the i830. I've only had it a day so I'm sure some of these things may grow on me. And truthfully, I haven't given it a workout yet.




Posted by: RobNyc

Quote:
Originally posted by boostmiser
I just switched from Verizon to Nextel. I used a v60i which was/is a great phone.
Not sure there is anything to complain about with the v60i. No, it doesn't have many colorful features, but it's a phone and it does it's job well. My wife loved the phone too.
On to the i830. I've only had it a day so I'm sure some of these things may grow on me. And truthfully, I haven't given it a workout yet.
  • I don't like the display facing in while wearing the phone. But I think that's a Nextel trademark?
  • I like the metal case but it seems very flimsy compared to my v60i case.
  • The metal case doesn't cover the corners like the v60i did. So if you drop the phone and dent/chip the corners, you're living with it. No just changing out the case.
  • You can't open the phone while the case is on.
  • The buttons are a bit small.


Yikes, people with big hands are in trouble with the i830


Posted by: IlKevinlI

Nextel wants the screen facing in when in the clip for 2 reasons.
The main reason is so if you drop the phone, the front of the phone doesn't get scratched or damaged. This is the mian reason im glad they took that approach. The other reason is so that if you get a call, you can look at the LCD without taking the phone totally off of the clip. You just pull the top off, look, and then decide if you want to take the call or not.


Posted by: Chaoss

Silver
5/4
r2b.00.01


Posted by: DaBlack

Same situation here but hopefully it won't be that long before they deliver the phone.


Posted by: xgman

it is misrepresentation, since i could hsave gone and picked one up at a local store if i had known.


Posted by: KBAM

Wirelessly posted (i95cl LE: MOT-85/01.05 UP.Browser/4.1.26m.737 UP.Link/4.2.3.5h)

Guess we can say that, so far, copper i830s are out there in two firmware versions (.00 & .01) and silver in one (.01). Any speculation on what was changed? --BAM


Posted by: L Bo

xxipimpyou69xx,

Thanks for taking one for the team.

Allow me to pour some honey on this thread and make it all sticky.


Posted by: tDAWG

I have two big questions.

anybody with i730 and has a i830 is the reception actually better??

two, is the phone sluggish like opening the flip or when you type a long text message it gets slower and slower as you get towards the bottom to the point where you are beating the phone by 4 or 5 words???


Posted by: RobNyc

Quote:
Originally posted by tDAWG
I have two big questions.

anybody with i730 and has a i830 is the reception actually better??

two, is the phone sluggish like opening the flip or when you type a long text message it gets slower and slower as you get towards the bottom to the point where you are beating the phone by 4 or 5 words???


I would like to know this too


Posted by: mcpaulyb

I just got my i830 and its been almost 2 hours since I called to do a SIM swap and activate my new phone. They keep telling me there is a backlog. WTF??? I want to get this thing up and running!!!


Posted by: Matt

It usually takes between 3 and 6 months.


Posted by: weilong

It should be instantanious.


Posted by: LiQUID921

Quote:
Originally posted by KStrike155
The Statuslight App changes colors that are programable...

For instance lets say you want the light to be blue when you have full service. You go into the menus and choose Signal 5 - Blue

There are 7 backgrounds. Blue, Cyan, Green, Magenta, Red, White, and Yellow.

All are programable to 6 different signal strengths.

I'm assuming it's the same as the i830 considering it's just a Java App....


Maybe this is a dumb question... say I have the java app, and I have no service... how long will the screen light up red?... until i get into service? or will it jus cut off after a few seconds? Same questions for the rest of the signals...


Posted by: Phenomenon

Quote:
Originally posted by Matt
It usually takes between 3 and 6 months.


...ouch.


Posted by: LineNoise

That happend to me. I called back after 60 minutes and it went through. That sucks, there's nothing you can do but wait.


Posted by: insanati0n

usually happens as soon as they hit the button. if there is a backlog it shouldn't take more than a few hours.

EDIT: just checked with care, they said there IS a backlog and to call back in an hour when it should be resolved.


Posted by: GatorLCA

I know when my sister upgraded from an i60 to an i730 it took 24 hours for her phone to work but for some reason when I upgraded to a 730 from an i95 it was instantaneous. I think it depends on what kind of account you have either corporate or personal.


Posted by: nexteltier1

It's an issue with ensemble. Most times, when it is running as it should, the swap takes seconds, just have to make sure that the changes were successful. Sometimes (as was the case the other day) there was an issue with provisioning so all changes would take about an hour to take place.




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