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the gx15 and an interesting find

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Posted by: wolfe-swe

If you take a look at www.sharp-mobile.com you can see they've added a new phone. The gx15 its a simpler design and probably cheaper than the gx30 also not as high-profile as the gx30.
but what is interesting if you take the time to leaf through the downloadable user manual for it is that alot of things wrong with the gx30 has been corrected in the gx15 for instance bluetooth connectivity, and also my personal major gripe with the gx30 the calendar has been given all the features asked for, such as alarm etc. also profiles have been rewamped a bit and found under settings now instead.

I now find it questionable by sharp if they wouldn't update the firmware of the gx30 in some way. Since the firmware obviously does exist.

Would be a shame to let such a nice phone go to waste with such crap firmware, Its not anywhere near the quality of the J-SH010 firmware. Which if I'm not wildly wrong would be a generation older tech and feature wise than the gx30.



Posted by: jmacleod

Just got a GX15 and I'm quite impressed.

One thing that lets it down is syncronisation of calendar to Outlook via bluetooth. You have to load handset manager, switch off bluetooth on the phone, select pc connection via bluetooth, synchronise appointments on handset manager, then end connection, then start bluetooth again.



Posted by: BMWFilms

hehe so they can fix the bluetooth restrictions...why not lift them then? let your flagship phone run free Sharp!



Posted by: altec18

the gx15 has too little memory



Posted by: otakuisland

You won't be able to fix the bluetooth.

The hardware is not designed for sending / receiving data over bluetooth..

No way around there!



Posted by: BMWFilms

yeah getting hopeless now for a solution to the BT probs on the GX32...but it's still a pretty phone



Posted by: jmacleod

otakuisland, it actually does Bluetooth.

You can data transfer, headset and synchronise appointments with BT it's just that you have to go through so many keypresses on the phone to do it.



Posted by: Ferrarisimo

I believe he was referring to the GX30/31/32



Posted by: skrue

Quote:
Originally posted by jmacleod
otakuisland, it actually does Bluetooth.

You can data transfer, headset and synchronise appointments with BT it's just that you have to go through so many keypresses on the phone to do it.

what sre the buttons to press?



Posted by: Guni_GuGu

Quote:
Originally posted by otakuisland
You won't be able to fix the bluetooth.

The hardware is not designed for sending / receiving data over bluetooth..

No way around there!


I'm no expert on bluethooth, infact, I know very very little about it... but my understanding, is bluethooth, is in essence a wireless network, and I have to ask, how is sending data any different to sending voice/audio? I mean, does bluethooth have some sort of different type of connection for voice? Does it have 2 applications?

Otherwise, your above statement, is false, and the hardware is sufficient for data transfer.



Posted by: skrue

i agree. if not to send data. than what is it for?



Posted by: MediaGuru

Quote:
Originally posted by Guni_GuGu
I'm no expert on bluetooth, infact, I know very very little about it... but my understanding, is bluethooth, is in essence a wireless network, and I have to ask, how is sending data any different to sending voice/audio? I mean, does bluethooth have some sort of different type of connection for voice? Does it have 2 applications?


Your actually bang on. Bluetooth has different "profiles" that make up its functionality. There are actually 13 different profiles that go from the obscure to widely used. The GX30/2 actually supports 5 of them:

- Serial-DevB
- GAP
- HandsFree-AG
- Headset-AG
- Serial-DevA

Each profile has to be tested and approved by the Bluetooth Qualification Program. This is supposed to ensure that different Bluetooth devices can interact correctly with each other. You can see what profiles each device has by going to their web site:
http://qualweb.bluetooth.org/Templa...alifiedProducts and doing a search.

There you can see that the GX15 (also known as the GX15##, GX-A15, GX-E15, GX-T15, GX-U15, GZ1, GX-L15, GZ100 !!!) has these profiles supported:

- DUN-GW
- GAP
- OPP-Client
- OPP-Server
- Serial-DevA
- Serial-DevB
- HandsFree-AG
- Headset-AG

The profiles that some of the posters on this forum wish they had on the GX3x are the DUN-GW, Dial-up Networking - this makes the phone act like a modem and the OPP-Client and Server which enable "objects" to be sent and received. Example would be the exchange of electronic calling cards.

One thing to remember with Bluetooth is that profiles have mandatory parts and optional parts, so even though a profile might be supported it might not have everything you want from it. I think this may be the reason for incompatibilities. You'll need to dive into the specs and the PDF documents on the Bluetooth web site to find out what is and is not supported though.

Hope that helps some.

MediaGuru



Posted by: Guni_GuGu

Quote:
Originally posted by MediaGuru
Your actually bang on. Bluetooth has different "profiles" that make up its functionality. There are actually 13 different profiles that go from the obscure to widely used. The GX30/2 actually supports 5 of them:

- Serial-DevB
- GAP
- HandsFree-AG
- Headset-AG
- Serial-DevA

Each profile has to be tested and approved by the Bluetooth Qualification Program. This is supposed to ensure that different Bluetooth devices can interact correctly with each other. You can see what profiles each device has by going to their web site:
http://qualweb.bluetooth.org/Templa...alifiedProducts and doing a search.

There you can see that the GX15 (also known as the GX15##, GX-A15, GX-E15, GX-T15, GX-U15, GZ1, GX-L15, GZ100 !!!) has these profiles supported:

- DUN-GW
- GAP
- OPP-Client
- OPP-Server
- Serial-DevA
- Serial-DevB
- HandsFree-AG
- Headset-AG

The profiles that some of the posters on this forum wish they had on the GX3x are the DUN-GW, Dial-up Networking - this makes the phone act like a modem and the OPP-Client and Server which enable "objects" to be sent and received. Example would be the exchange of electronic calling cards.

One thing to remember with Bluetooth is that profiles have mandatory parts and optional parts, so even though a profile might be supported it might not have everything you want from it. I think this may be the reason for incompatibilities. You'll need to dive into the specs and the PDF documents on the Bluetooth web site to find out what is and is not supported though.

Hope that helps some.

MediaGuru


That HELPS A TRUCK LOAD!!!

In fact, that should be made a sticky rite on the top!!!

I guess all this talk, of upgrading the firmware and blah, is all useless, because the hardware isn't there to support the functionanitly we all want.

Oh well, when is the gx40 due? I think Sharp and Vodaphone, will have learnt there lesson by then.



Posted by: BMWFilms

i would hope definitely don't want anothr sharp phone to be a cripple like the gx32...and it's gotta be quad band once again



Posted by: Synncere

Quote:
Originally posted by Guni_GuGu
That HELPS A TRUCK LOAD!!!

In fact, that should be made a sticky rite on the top!!!



MediaGuru's info has been stickified



Posted by: skrue

Quote:
Originally posted by BMWFilms
i would hope definitely don't want anothr sharp phone to be a cripple like the gx32...and it's gotta be quad band once again

ya i hope so to





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