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7730 or 7510 or Treo 600

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Posted by: jay147

Very interested in getting a BB or something that will combine email, telephone, and pda features. Can anyone list pros and/or cons of the following:

BB 7730 with TMobile (No speakerphone, Internal Antenna)
BB 7510 with Nextel (Speakerphone, Ext. Antenna)
Treo 600 with TMobile

I have been with TMobile for about 2 years, and have good coverage outside of the greater Los Angeles area, but Nextel has good coverage also. TMobile with Blackberry is cheaper as a package with more cell minutes than Nextel and I use about 700-1000min. per month. We have 2 TMobile phones in the family so mobile to mobile is free with a business plan. The Nextel has a speakerphone, Direct Connect and free incoming plans. Oh...the choices...

Any user with real life experience of any of the above products and/or service would be most helpful. Thanks!!



Posted by: NJBlackBerry

I have, at one time or another, had all three. Here is my option - for what it's worth...

The 7510 is the best BlackBerry I've ever used. Superb. Great speakerphone. Great e-mail. Great PTT. Good support by Nextel Lousy battery. Expensive. Very limited coverage outside of North America. Gave it to a domestic US business unit (which has bought 30 of them). Service was excellent wherever I tried it.

The 7730 is the best GSM BlackBerry I've used; brilliant color screen. Controllable backlighting (no other BB - except the Verizon 7750 - has that). Great e-mail. Great International coverage. Great support from T-Mobile (we have a corporate account). You know about T-Mobiles service coverage.

I really wanted to love the Treo 600. I got two from T-Mobile as soon as they came out. Runs most of the Palm apps (if they run on Palm OS 5). I have limited use for it. No push e-mail (we have push e-mail through a BES) and no way to get my corporate e-mail to it. Pull from POP3 works fine. Keyboard pales by comparison to the BB. But it can run all of those apps. Hacked O/S. I've learned to love the "hard reset" (just sync, everything will come back) My wife got one for herself and she loves it - she's a Palm-person from way back.

You want push e-mail, get a BB. You need tons of applications, get the Treo.



Posted by: bklieger

I too wanted to love the treo600. it was a big disappointment for many i work with. MOST OF NOW ARE IN THE 7730 or 7510, for me the 7510 with great speakerphone won.



Posted by: bklieger

Quote:
Originally posted by NJBlackBerry
I have, at one time or another, had all three. Here is my option - for what it's worth...

The 7510 is the best BlackBerry I've ever used. Superb. Great speakerphone. Great e-mail. Great PTT. Good support by Nextel Lousy battery. Expensive. Very limited coverage outside of North America. Gave it to a domestic US business unit (which has bought 30 of them). Service was excellent wherever I tried it.

The 7730 is the best GSM BlackBerry I've used; brilliant color screen. Controllable backlighting (no other BB - except the Verizon 7750 - has that). Great e-mail. Great International coverage. Great support from T-Mobile (we have a corporate account). You know about T-Mobiles service coverage.

I really wanted to love the Treo 600. I got two from T-Mobile as soon as they came out. Runs most of the Palm apps (if they run on Palm OS 5). I have limited use for it. No push e-mail (we have push e-mail through a BES) and no way to get my corporate e-mail to it. Pull from POP3 works fine. Keyboard pales by comparison to the BB. But it can run all of those apps. Hacked O/S. I've learned to love the "hard reset" (just sync, everything will come back) My wife got one for herself and she loves it - she's a Palm-person from way back.

You want push e-mail, get a BB. You need tons of applications, get the Treo.

NJ-
if you where starting new, in NJ / tristate area WOULD YOU GO nextel/7510 or verizon /7750?
thanks for the feedback.



Posted by: NJBlackBerry

Very tough call. Both networks are strong in NJ. It comes down to carrier preference and differences in the BlackBerrys themselves:

7510 - Nextel - Blue case; thicker than the rest since it has the speakerphone (a big plus). Only BB with PTT (which matters to a lot of people who are VERY loyal to Nextel). Lousy battery life (since it constantly sends out its position so the PTT connects in under 1 second). Hi cap battery available and strongly suggested. As is a car charger. Only BB with a full TCP/IP stack, so you can do HTMP web browsing with WebViewer (which I don't use).

7750 - Verizon. Coulda been a contendah (RIP Marlon Brando). Great network. Very fast. No dedication to the BlackBerry. Last to come out with v3.7 for the 6710s. Last to come out with BlackBerry Web Client. Last to come out with a color BlackBerry. Still no built in WAP web browser. 7750 is the larger, black case format. I like the form factor. No speakerphone. CDMA chipset anecdotally seems slower.

Answer: choose your poison



Posted by: bklieger

and the winner is NEXTEL.



Posted by: bklieger

Quote:
Originally posted by NJBlackBerry
Very tough call. Both networks are strong in NJ. It comes down to carrier preference and differences in the BlackBerrys themselves:

7510 - Nextel - Blue case; thicker than the rest since it has the speakerphone (a big plus). Only BB with PTT (which matters to a lot of people who are VERY loyal to Nextel). Lousy battery life (since it constantly sends out its position so the PTT connects in under 1 second). Hi cap battery available and strongly suggested. As is a car charger. Only BB with a full TCP/IP stack, so you can do HTMP web browsing with WebViewer (which I don't use).

7750 - Verizon. Coulda been a contendah (RIP Marlon Brando). Great network. Very fast. No dedication to the BlackBerry. Last to come out with v3.7 for the 6710s. Last to come out with BlackBerry Web Client. Last to come out with a color BlackBerry. Still no built in WAP web browser. 7750 is the larger, black case format. I like the form factor. No speakerphone. CDMA chipset anecdotally seems slower.

Answer: choose your poison

ironically i just spent a week on the verizon model, AND IT REALLY SEEMS SLOWER. working within all of it features it seems to go from task to task slower than the tmobile and the nextel , ALL WITH THE SAME MB? ANY FEEDBACK WHY? THANKS



Posted by: TELUSMobilityGuy

7510, hands down.



Posted by: BobDonHim

Quote:
Originally posted by NJBlackBerry
I have, at one time or another, had all three. Here is my option - for what it's worth...

The 7510 is the best BlackBerry I've ever used. Superb. Great speakerphone. Great e-mail. Great PTT. Good support by Nextel Lousy battery. Expensive. Very limited coverage outside of North America. Gave it to a domestic US business unit (which has bought 30 of them). Service was excellent wherever I tried it.

The 7730 is the best GSM BlackBerry I've used; brilliant color screen. Controllable backlighting (no other BB - except the Verizon 7750 - has that). Great e-mail. Great International coverage. Great support from T-Mobile (we have a corporate account). You know about T-Mobiles service coverage.

I really wanted to love the Treo 600. I got two from T-Mobile as soon as they came out. Runs most of the Palm apps (if they run on Palm OS 5). I have limited use for it. No push e-mail (we have push e-mail through a BES) and no way to get my corporate e-mail to it. Pull from POP3 works fine. Keyboard pales by comparison to the BB. But it can run all of those apps. Hacked O/S. I've learned to love the "hard reset" (just sync, everything will come back) My wife got one for herself and she loves it - she's a Palm-person from way back.

You want push e-mail, get a BB. You need tons of applications, get the Treo.


I don't mean to nitpick but the 7510 runs on the iDen network which is only available in North America..therefore, the 7510 will not work outside of North America.

I have used many different models of the BlackBerry from the 950 all the way to the 7750. I am running the 7750 currently beta-testing some software. If I had my choice I would definately choose the 7510. Great speakerphone and I like the direct-connect feature!



Posted by: mas90guru

I echo NJBlackberry - I think he summed up exactly what I would have said.

I have both the 7510 and Treo 600 (Sprint).

If you are a heavy SMS user - or an SMS user at all - the 7510 doesn't work for you. The reason is you cannot reply to incoming SMS messages - it's strictly read only. And they don't tell you who they are from either.

The Treo 600 from Sprint has a fantastic SMS client where you can actually track the discussion as if it was chat. There's also a lot more available for the Treo application wise and I find the data is faster when I compare my Treo WebViewer to my RIM Webviewer.

I find myself liking the TREO for the bright screen (the 7510 is somewhat dim), the SMS ability, web browsing and the support for Palm apps.

However my real need is email and for that I don't think you can beat the 7510 - especially for the keyboard as NJBlackberry points out. The Treo keys are like typing on pinheads.



Posted by: zerotwoone.com

The ink on my i95cl's buttons are worn in smudged due to my addiction to SMS. So I thought I wouldn't be happy with my 7510 but things couldn't be better. I simply add an e-mail extension to my contacts numbers and save it as an e-mail.

For example 7815551212 would become 7815551212@vtext.com for Verizon or 7815551212@messaging.nextel.com.

Once you get everything sstored in their its just as quick and convenient as SMS.



Posted by: Q B

yeh thats cool and all but! how does it look on their side? when u send if off as an email? can they reply to the email and it goes sms to your unit as a sms or as a email? or do u make them have to do more stpes because they can't reply to the email styled sms? anyone know what im trying to say?



Posted by: zerotwoone.com

Your e-mail address (whichever you choose through web client) automatically fills itself in as the reply address. So the other person doesn't even notice they are emailing you. The only problem is getting everybody to add your e-mail address in their address book which isn't really a problem to me because my Blackberry e-mail address is short and sweet.... Joao@Arbos.com





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