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Which is better, Symbian or MS Smartphone?
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Posted by: dwest218

Just trying to understand the differences between the two. Seems as though Symbian may have more programs since it has been in existence longer. However Microsoft is allot bigger than Symbian. Capabilities between the two seem matched? Anyone used both????

Posted by: beta23

I have used both formats, with the Mpx200 (MS) & the Nokia 6600 (symbian) and personally, i perfer the Microsoft format. just because of the convenience of the today screen, very useful thrid-party software, and lots to choose from. i liked the nokia 6600, and its very useful also, the main difference is that the symbian format lists all the programs in icons like any other cell phone menu. it doesn't have a today screen similar to the smartphone microsoft, at least not without any third party software. when i had the 6600, symbian was still relatively new, so there weren't as many software available.

its up to your preference though, if u are coming from a pocket pc background or want a microsoft windows- type format, then go for a microsoft smartphone. i liked both formats except the symbian may require more downloading of third-party software in order to match the Smartphone's. A prime example of this would be Agile messenger for symbian smartphones, which allows you to log onto MSn messenger, yahoo, etc. And to add, third party software can be a pain in the butt sometimes. I can talk from experience after beating my head with my treo 600.

I really Hope the next generation Smartphone from Microsoft comes out really soon.

anyhow, hoped this info helped a little.

Posted by: beta23

oops sorry i mistaken the series 60 format with symbian, I played around with my friends p900 which is an amazing phone but a little expensive, anyhow, the same applies to the p900 with downloading thrid-party software.

sorry for the confusion....

Posted by: supervan

I have an Motorola mpx 200 and Nokia 7650, Ngage and I prefer the Motorola. The screen resolution is better, viewing of Movie clips is better on the Motorola, better sound quality and better battery life. The NGage I have to charge every day if it is been used all day but the Mpx 200 last up to three days with constant use.
I also like that the Mpx 200 can be charged with a USB Cable from the computer.

The MPX 200 work also much better at syncronising with MS Outlook.

Posted by: chou712

MS Smartphone

Posted by: towel401

Symbian! m$ is pure evil.. and those MPx200 things are ugly beasts

Posted by: godsfantasy

Microsoft Smartphone 2003 is excellent. I have the Mio 8390, and its been good to me...

Posted by: iJITSU

I've had both (had an mpx200 and SCH I600, now have a non-retail Nokia 6620). I prefer the 6620 over the two MS Smartphones that I've had. Faster response, more stable. However, the MS phones I had didn't have the latest SW so it may be different. I'm currently eyeballing the mpx220. It looks sweet and I'm always willing to give it a shot.

Posted by: dwest218

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Originally posted by iJITSU
I've had both (had an mpx200 and SCH I600, now have a non-retail Nokia 6620). I prefer the 6620 over the two MS Smartphones that I've had. Faster response, more stable. However, the MS phones I had didn't have the latest SW so it may be different. I'm currently eyeballing the mpx220. It looks sweet and I'm always willing to give it a shot.

Do either phones allow you to record phone conversations? Do the symbians phones sync' pretty well with outlook? I like to sync my contact and calendar data and was curious how well of a job the symbian did in those categories??

Posted by: Mashie

For me the best thing about the MS phones are:

The ability to synch with exchange 2003 over the air (my company uses exchange 2003 for e-mail) so I am always intouch with my inbox no matter where I travel

The ability to reply to e-mail via voce note so again while traveling I can reply to e-mail simply by talking.

The home screen, nothing better then just looking down at your phone to see your appts for the day, calls etc...

If you are not using the MPX200 in a business capacity then there is a good chance that you are not taking advantage of the full power of this phone. I can't tell you how many times I have been delayed on the airplane, sitting at the gate, and was able to work from my smartphone, replying to e-mails, scheduling meetings etc... It has been a real lifesaver for me.

-Mashie

Posted by: towel401

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Originally posted by Mashie
MPX200

gawd those things are ugly.. and its MPx (dont forget the little x it makes all the difference).. too integrated with M$, thrusted computing and DRM

Posted by: Mashie

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Originally posted by towel401
gawd those things are ugly.. and its MPx (dont forget the little x it makes all the difference).. too integrated with M$, thrusted computing and DRM

Sorry towel401, but I am going to have to respectively disagree. I don't feel that it is "too intergrated with Microsoft", I feel intergrated with my company which had made a business decision to run MS software (something completely out of my control). For me the major deciding factor is what is the best device to make me the most productive employee. For my business, it happens to be the MPx (notice the little x

) due to seemless intergration with our mail system.

If my company decided to move to a different software solution, then I would be forced to re-evaluate what devices make me productive. Negating a device just because of who makes the seems a bit silly to me. There are lots of choices out there and we each need to choose the device that works best for us

Posted by: scottj

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Originally posted by towel401
too integrated with M$,

Well, yeah, that's kind of the whole point, isn't it? Microsoft Outlook and Exchange are extremely popular mail/calendar/contact management systems - seamless integration is a very good thing if you're using them - which most businesses do. After all, that's what smart phones are all about, right? Symbian doesn't have desktop software that's widely used to my knowledge. Why would you opt for a smartphone with PIM capability that has less than optimal integration with the main repositiories for that data - your desktop mail/calendar/contact system or your company's mail server?

Posted by: godsfantasy

Greetings,

Do you have a mini- QWERTY keyboard attached to your SmartPhone? Using the number-keys to input data takes forever.

Posted by: Mashie

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Originally posted by godsfantasy
Greetings,

Do you have a mini- QWERTY keyboard attached to your SmartPhone? Using the number-keys to input data takes forever.

Voice Note baby! I never use the keyboard on the phone. I use activesync to enter all of the server info, then voice note to reply to all of my e-mails

Posted by: dwest218

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Originally posted by Mashie
Voice Note baby! I never use the keyboard on the phone. I use activesync to enter all of the server info, then voice note to reply to all of my e-mails

Voice Note sounds cool. Will it allow you to record phone conversations??

Posted by: towel401

voice note?? i can do that with my sl55. but u need some proggy to change the .vmo files around. i wish it would record wav, or mp3

Posted by: iJITSU

My 6620 syncs great with Outlook and I can send voice recordings via email as well. In fact, I have used the mpx200, i600, and 6620 ALL in a business capacity as that's what I need a smartphone for in the first place. At the airport, I surf the web, send/receive email, manage my schedule, etc. Not sure if you can sync over the air with an Exchange server with Series 60. The biggest difference between the two MS phones and the 6620 that I noticed is that the 6620 doesn't hang or freeze. If you've never used a Symbian Series 60 phone extensively it can be easy to underestimate the platform's ability. I didn't consider them "real" smartphones until I used one. That said, I like the MS Smartphone platform as well. In fact, I would prefer (if performance were equal) to use an MS Smartphone or a Palmone smartphone over Series 60 simply because those companies are American and I like to support our companies when I can (and when they deliver quality product). I will be taking a hard look at the Mpx 220 when it arrives and if the hang/freeze issue had been corrected, it will be a MS smartphone for me. If not, the the Treo 610 or Nokia 6620 retail model.

Posted by: dwest218

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Originally posted by iJITSU
My 6620 syncs great with Outlook and I can send voice recordings via email as well. In fact, I have used the mpx200, i600, and 6620 ALL in a business capacity as that's what I need a smartphone for in the first place. At the airport, I surf the web, send/receive email, manage my schedule, etc. Not sure if you can sync over the air with an Exchange server with Series 60. The biggest difference between the two MS phones and the 6620 that I noticed is that the 6620 doesn't hang or freeze. If you've never used a Symbian Series 60 phone extensively it can be easy to underestimate the platform's ability. I didn't consider them "real" smartphones until I used one. That said, I like the MS Smartphone platform as well. In fact, I would prefer (if performance were equal) to use an MS Smartphone or a Palmone smartphone over Series 60 simply because those companies are American and I like to support our companies when I can (and when they deliver quality product). I will be taking a hard look at the Mpx 220 when it arrives and if the hang/freeze issue had been corrected, it will be a MS smartphone for me. If not, the the Treo 610 or Nokia 6620 retail model.

Can you record conversations with mpx200? How is the calendar function in the mpx200 compared to the 6620? I mean in terms of useability and functionality??

Posted by: chrix

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Originally posted by towel401
voice note?? i can do that with my sl55. but u need some proggy to change the .vmo files around. i wish it would record wav, or mp3

You don't get it do you? People NEEDS to connect to their corporate Exchange Server. This is a forum for discussion on Microsoft Smartphone. Please stop your BS posts about Microsoft.

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gawd those things are ugly.. and its MPx (dont forget the little x it makes all the difference).. too integrated with M$, thrusted computing and DRM

"thrusted computing" and "DRM" doesn't really apply to my MPx200, does it?

Posted by: Prom1

mashie----if the Mpx220 can do what the MPx200 can you've just confinced my lust is justified for purchasing it when its released - unlocked though.

Good point on the M$ Exchange Server 2003.....but.......from what I understand (not much on Exchange btw) that it doesn't support Email Push like the blackberry -->until Windows Exchange Server 2003 SP2!!<----. That said, if I'm incorrect please inform me, how does email to receive on the device work?? Can I schedule it automatically to retrieve & at what intervals? Also, how do you setup Exchange to allow outside access (generally or indepth would be alright).

Also is there a way/app that will tell you what tower your specifically on?? (this would be good for given to tech support engineering memos fine details on what is happening!)

And do you also use your device as an MP3 player & how does it fair at that?? One more thing video same as previous question thanks

Posted by: Mashie

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Originally posted by Prom1
mashie----if the Mpx220 can do what the MPx200 can you've just confinced my lust is justified for purchasing it when its released - unlocked though.

Good point on the M$ Exchange Server 2003.....but.......from what I understand (not much on Exchange btw) that it doesn't support Email Push like the blackberry -->until Windows Exchange Server 2003 SP2!!<----. That said, if I'm incorrect please inform me, how does email to receive on the device work?? Can I schedule it automatically to retrieve & at what intervals? Also, how do you setup Exchange to allow outside access (generally or indepth would be alright).

Well I have only played with the MPx220 for a very shot amount of time, only aobut 30 min, so not really enough to make an informed decision on. However, what I did see and what I have have read I am pretty sure that if I decide not to move to the MPX, due to lack of 850MHz in the US, then I will be moving over to the MPx220. Everything that was in the MPx200 + 850MHz, Camera, Bluetooth = nice phone

As for "Push" from the Exchange 2003 server, I am not sure about that. I will have to do some research and reply back.

-Mashie

Posted by: chrix

A thread in another forum regarding "Push"

http://smartphone.modaco.com/ftopic90710.html

Posted by: iJITSU

the more I read about the mpx220, the more interested I become.