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Posted by: thepro8

this uses airtime, but costs no money. I hope it helps. You can change the homepage to whatever you want and I don't know if you need the password, but just put it in. It doesn't hurt.

1.) Click Menu
2.) click "mobile Web"
3.) click "web sessions"
4.) click "New Entry"
fill in the following

Name:WAP
homepage: http://wap.oa.yahoo.com
userid:
Password: vzw
gatewayip: 216.99.207.233
Gateway1:
Server type1: wap
Port1: 8080
E2E Port1: 9201
LXL Port1: 9201
Domain 1:
gatewayip: 216.99.207.233
Service type2: WAP
Port2: 9201
E2E Port2: 9201
LXL Port2: 9201
Domain 2:

Posted by: kidgenius

Holy crap it worked. I could've sworn I did that last friday, but oh well. One quick question:

Why do you have the first server type set to WAP, but the port is set to 8080 which is usually used for HTTP transfers?

Edit:
Well, one other question:

Is there any way to be able to navigate by typing in URLs like you would w/ a real browser?

Posted by: JizJizJiz

Thanks a lot.

Posted by: bkbroil

That's awesome! Thank you!

Posted by: thepro8

I feel bad for not offering it earlier. I figured everyone had it.

just a tip, there is a number 1-800-555-8355 that is a free call. it's a voice activated directory that gives you a lot of the stuff you are most likely going to use mobil web for like weather, sports, entertainment, directions. have fun.

Posted by: Ross5184

Does this totally negate the need to have the mobile web service? Is this legal?

Posted by: thepro8

it is legal. perfectly legal. You are just not using verizon as a isp.

The opinion that this eliminates the need for verizon's mobile web. I bet most people will say yes. It just depends if you like there format and features better.

Posted by: samkatz

ok, I'm laboring w/my old timeport, verizon w/msn...only using the content they put on my phone. I've tried many times to key in links to sites I've found on the web in "'wap directories" and I always get error messages

W/this v710 mobile web 2, can I put in any wap link I want to and browse it?

Posted by: steve12m3

Quote:

Originally posted by thepro8
this uses airtime, but costs no money. I hope it helps. You can change the homepage to whatever you want and I don't know if you need the password, but just put it in. It doesn't hurt.

1.) Click Menu
2.) click "mobile Web"
3.) click "web sessions"
4.) click "New Entry"
fill in the following

Name:WAP
homepage: http://wap.oa.yahoo.com
userid:
Password: vzw
gatewayip: 216.99.207.233
Gateway1:
Server type1: wap
Port1: 8080
E2E Port1: 9201
LXL Port1: 9201
Domain 1:
gatewayip: 216.99.207.233
Service type2: WAP
Port2: 9201
E2E Port2: 9201
LXL Port2: 9201
Domain 2:

On my phone the gateway ip is 12 digits xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Are u missing a number?

Posted by: Ross5184

So if I drop the $4.99 mobile web, can I still use my phone for data connection? (via bluetooth to my clie)

Posted by: steve12m3

I figured it out.

Posted by: thepro8

for other's to answer steve's quesitons if I have .99.235 just put a 0 in front of the 99 so it's really .099.235

Posted by: woodylew

Forgive me as I am a newbie. Where do I "click Menu"?

Posted by: Sam K

This might seem like an ignorant question, but does this still give you WAP 2.0 features?

Posted by: fishfuzz

Make sure to post this in the v710 FAQ. Thanks for figuring this out!

Posted by: Sam K

Quote:

Originally posted by fishfuzz
Make sure to post this in the v710 FAQ. Thanks for figuring this out!

I just linked to the first post in the FAQ.

Posted by: fishfuzz

Quote:

Originally posted by Ross5184
So if I drop the $4.99 mobile web, can I still use my phone for data connection? (via bluetooth to my clie)

Yes. It will still use your minutes.

Posted by: Ross5184

Excuse me if this is a stupid question, but why pay $5/month if you can use this for free?

Posted by: JizJizJiz

Quote:

Originally posted by Ross5184
Excuse me if this is a stupid question, but why pay $5/month if you can use this for free?

If you like Verizon's features/interface better.

Posted by: Ross5184

Quote:

Originally posted by thepro8
there is a number 1-800-555-8355 that is a free call. it's a voice activated directory that gives you a lot of the stuff you are most likely going to use mobil web for like weather, sports, entertainment, directions. have fun.

I just played around with that for quite a while. What a great service... thanks for the useful tips.

Posted by: Mr2Tyler

is it possible to use this WAP to provide access via bluetooth to my hp ipaq?

thanks!

-Ty

Posted by: bigcalidave

I've still only seen Mobile Web 2.0 in pictures on vzw. As for using this WAP (yahoo) I get a 404 error trying to use messenger, and I can't figure out how to change to a different URL. Am I stuck in yahoo with this one? Do I have to make a different session for each URL? I remember it being a lot easier with mobile web from vzw on my vx6000...
Dave

Posted by: NissNiss

What can you do with the 4.99 VZW wap 2.0 that you can't do with this free Yahoo browser?

Probably a stupid question - but you can go to a regular Yahoo page. I use the yahoo finance page and post messages under stock ticker symbols. Can I do this?

Another probably stupid question - Am I correct in thinking that this is a totally different function from using the phone as a modem and going online with a PDA or laptop.

Posted by: kurdtsson

Man i was trying so hard to get this working, well now it works and works great. I work the third shift, 11:45pm-8am, with free nights now i'll have something to do hahaah. also, is their a wap site for AIM? either officially with aol or non it doesn;t matter.

also i think there might be something wrong with the browser. Let's say i Launch yahoo as my homepage. I have another entry in the web session as http://www.google.com/wml as my homepage . when i go to launch the google one after launching yahoo, the yahoo one still shows up.

even if i exit the browser to my homescreen and start it up again, it stilll show up the yahoo page.

the only way to get another page is if i go to the browser menu, advanced then restart browser. or if i reset the cache.

is there something i am doing wrong? or is there something wrong with the phone?

Posted by: fishfuzz

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr2Tyler
is it possible to use this WAP to provide access via bluetooth to my hp ipaq?

While you can view WAP pages on your iPaq, why wouldn't you just pair the devices (via Bluetooth) and surf the web normally?

Posted by: Kaster

During nights&weekends does this method not use plan minutes? Or does it use airtime no matter what.

Posted by: naturefreak85

Quote:

Originally posted by steve12m3
On my phone the gateway ip is 12 digits xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Are u missing a number?

no your not, basically you can insert a 0 before the two 9's or you can just press the right button and you will get to the next set

Posted by: jerbroc

Maybe it's just me but the yahoo wap seems faster than the vzw one.

Posted by: fishfuzz

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaster
During nights&weekends does this method not use plan minutes? Or does it use airtime no matter what.

It uses airtime. But if you have free nights/weekends then those airtime minutes used would be free (just like any other call).

Posted by: aznxjz

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr2Tyler
is it possible to use this WAP to provide access via bluetooth to my hp ipaq?

Originally posted by fishfuzz
While you can view WAP pages on your iPaq, why wouldn't you just pair the devices (via Bluetooth) and surf the web normally?

I might be reading it wrong, but aren't you suggesting to Mr2Tyler what he just said??

Posted by: thrillho

no hes suggesting he pair his ipaq using #777 to get 114k internet instead of wap, he should use normal http pages.

btw, any one out there really heavy users of N&W NA usage? just curious as to how far people push the generosity. cause im house sitting for a friend who doesnt have a phone line (just uses her cell) and no internet.

so im using my new BT connection for my usage while there

Posted by: fishfuzz

That's correct. You won't be using the WAP functionality of the phone to surf the web on your Pocket PC. That would require either a cable/bluetooth connection and the use of the #777 number.

I was merely stating that one could view WAP pages on your iPaq after the connection was completed, but why would you bother.

Posted by: KingsDude

How do i navigate to a different homepage?

Posted by: Moderator HF 10

Great thread. Thanks.

Posted by: Crucifixion

But dont you NEED mobile web 2.0 to send video messaging?????

if you dont have it then you cant recieve or send video messages, and if you cant do that, whats the point of the phone?

please somebody confirm if you can still send/recieve video/pix messages without mobile web 2.0

Posted by: fishfuzz

I believe you need Pix Messaging to send/receive video/images. Mobile Web is just for small-screen websurfin'

Posted by: NoahPC

If my plan has unlimited nights and weekends, will this cost me money?

Posted by: naturefreak85

Quote:

Originally posted by NoahPC
If my plan has unlimited nights and weekends, will this cost me money?

with mobile web.....it will only use minutes so if you use it at night and on weekends, then no it wont cost any extra

Posted by: henryhund

This is great, thanks guys.

Is there any way to get gmail via wap (I really don't think there is...)? And, I'm guessing I ask to much to say I'd like to have my username saved (like a cookie) when I go to yahoo (or hopefully gmail).

Thanks.

Posted by: leozh

Thank you sir! You are my hero! :P

Posted by: sparks

If I messed up the entry and clicked "done", how do I delete this entry from the menu of choices?

Thanks,

Posted by: BrandonClaps

now lets post some good wap sites.....
i'm lookin for one that has weather/movies (most imporant) and whatever else google or what not.

Posted by: sparks

I just figured out how to delete an unwanted web session. After calling the idiots at Motorola support, I was told that it's impossible to delete a web session. By accident, I hit the menu key and lo and behold, the choice to delete the web session was there.

Thought I'd post this in case someone else has the same problem.

Posted by: roamer1

Quote:

Originally posted by sparks
I just figured out how to delete an unwanted web session. After calling the idiots at Motorola support, I was told that it's impossible to delete a web session. By accident, I hit the menu key and lo and behold, the choice to delete the web session was there.

Thought I'd post this in case someone else has the same problem.

Also...IIRC, you can't delete a web session if you've made it the default.

-SC

Posted by: sparks

This all started because I can't get into mobile web (I am paying for it), and the VZW support people still can't figure it out. They wanted me to look at the VZW web settings, but can't figure out how to do it. So, as it stands, I have no mobile web access. I'm going to stop at the store tonight, at the suggestion of the Level 2 tech support guy, to see if they can figure it out.

Posted by: samkatz

Can you have both the Verizon Mobile Web and the free WAP programmed on your phone at the same time, with a menu selection to chose what you want to access, do you have to erase one set of settings to put in the other??

Posted by: fishfuzz

Yes, you can have both.

Posted by: ice1874193

how do you edit a web session?? I'm pretty sure i entered everything right but i can't connect to the site provided on the first page. it keeps saying "connecting..." and then finally says "domain down" or "request timed out" Does anyone else have this problem??

Posted by: ice1874193

oops, i set it all up but didn't hit the done button....got it going now how come there are no pictures? my friend showed me his sprint web 2day and it was a lot cooler. also my phone seems to keep track of data coming and going, i dont have to pay any data charges do i? what about when i download anything?

Posted by: OpTi

so to clarify, i can use it as long as i can after 9pm.

Posted by: OpTi

what are other good wap sites? do i just change it where you input the homepage?

Posted by: Linux23

Quote:

Originally posted by OpTi
what are other good wap sites? do i just change it where you input the homepage?

that's my question as well. can I change my homepage without changing my Gateway info?

Posted by: JoshNJ

yes, i set wap.howardforums.com as my homepage and it worked, any way to go to different url's without having to change the homepage?

Posted by: naturefreak85

Quote:

Originally posted by JoshNJ
yes, i set wap.howardforums.com as my homepage and it worked, any way to go to different url's without having to change the homepage?

yea set your homepage to www.google.com/wml and just input the urls in the search engine

Posted by: VINDOG

Confused. Is the Gatway IP the same for everyone?

If not how to I find out what it is?

Posted by: dishdish00

Thanks for the tip, but who exactly is hosting the IP address that is letting us use this for a gateway?

When I type in that address ( 216.99.207.233) in my browser I get
the McKillion Real Estate Group. Did somebody just hack their server and are we using them for a proxy, or what? If the owner of this website is giving us free internet access that's very cool of him, but does anyone know who this guy is, and what his privacy policy is?

Thanks

Posted by: pete9976

I just tried it, it works!! Thanks!

Posted by: mkempton

Quote:

Originally posted by Crucifixion
if you dont have it then you cant recieve or send video messages, and if you cant do that, whats the point of the phone?

The only reason I'm getting it is for Bluetooth. I could care less about the camera.

Posted by: Linux23

Quote:

Originally posted by dishdish00
Thanks for the tip, but who exactly is hosting the IP address that is letting us use this for a gateway?

When I type in that address ( 216.99.207.233) in my browser I get
the McKillion Real Estate Group. Did somebody just hack their server and are we using them for a proxy, or what? If the owner of this website is giving us free internet access that's very cool of him, but does anyone know who this guy is, and what his privacy policy is?

Thanks

why ask why?

Posted by: sparks

The question about the ip address started me thinking. Is it possible for me to use my company's ip address, instead, or is there something special about the ip address used for the free WAP?

Posted by: BeyondTheTech

I remember reading a huge thread on WAP in the LG forum. You can use a program such as NowWAP on your home PC, open up your router to forward ports to your PC running it, then you can use your home IP address (hopefully cable, not DSL since it's more static) to surf away. No more relying on someone else's servers.

One thing I like doing is setting up multiple Web Sessions. I made a Yahoo one based on the first post on this thread, then copied the entry and changed the homepage for each web session. I also turned off caching (last option) so that it will pull new data everytime - that helped out for a printer-friendly movie listing page from Loews Theatre in New Brunswick, NJ: http://www.enjoytheshow.com/showtim...s.cfm?tid=AACPH

Don't know what to put for a homepage? Check Yahoo! Mobile's WAP directory at http://mobile.yahoo.com/resource_center/wapdir/home

Need quick driving directions? http://mobile.yahoo.com/dd

Don't want to spend $1.25 for 411? http://mobile.yahoo.com/yp or http://www.superpages.com

Are you Filipino? http://wap.pinoycentral.com/

Have fun!

Posted by: frax

First I'd like to say thanks for the info becuase for a first time wap user it's a little confusing and you never really know what you did until your next bill comes.

Anyway, I was messing around with myself as a gateway and it was pretty sweet, and I viewed a few regular pages and then started hosting my own with IIS just to see what some cool pictures looked like on the screen.

Then I noticed when I was viewing an actual picture as the address, the left softkey was set to "Download" and I tried to click it and it popped up and error message saying it failed. I looked around in the options and it had some kinda section about downloads and there seemed to be an option for images, sounds, etc...but they didn't have checkboxes next to them...so...is this just something built into the openwave browser and verizon locked it out or can I only save certain kinds of pictures or what? I'm assuming they locked it because lord knows it's much easier to pay some rediculous amount of money for about 20k of data for some get-it-now wallpaper. I tried a png, gif, and jpg to no avail. If they did lock it out...why the hell would you pay 5 bucks a month without the ability to get anything?

Also sometimes really big pages (like somethingawful.com frontpage) seem to overload the phone or something, and it'll seems to reload itself. It's not really a big deal and I can't blame it for freaking out from lord knows how much data that much be, but I didn't know if there was anything specific that was triggering it.

Posted by: bigkbull

Ok, so first of all I want to thank all of you for all this wonderful information.

So now for my problem. I set my wap up the way you guys have it here. I then went to tagtag.com and set my own little page up with one link to a ringtone just to see if I can get it to go. When I go to this site and try to download the ring, I get an error message:

"Unsupported content type"

Is that because I am still on wap 1.1 on my account. Would this happen if 2.0 wasn't enabled on my phone. If this is the case then I guess I could call them up like someone had stated earlier in this thread.

Any help with this would be so greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance... I really need this to work...

-Kev-n

Posted by: aznxjz

wow BeyondTheTech, thanks for all those links... awesome info!

Posted by: supernet33

I did everything right and it seems it dosnt do anything it freez'z??

Posted by: sparks

BeyondTheTech,

Thanks for the info. Great idea! I think you are not far from me. I'm near the shore in West Allenhurst. Lived in Marlboro many years ago.

I'll have to experiment with this stuff.

Thanks again,

Posted by: XXLT

Still working for everyone? I tried yesterday and it worked wonderfully. Today, nothing but timeouts. Has this been blocked somehow?

Posted by: OpTi

Quote:

Originally posted by XXLT
Still working for everyone? I tried yesterday and it worked wonderfully. Today, nothing but timeouts. Has this been blocked somehow?

i just tried it couple of minutes ago and it didn't work

. It worked last night. Maybe it's down now?

Posted by: BeyondTheTech

That's the reason why I don't like public WAP gateways. If you can trust your home broadband connection to work properly, you can set up NowWAP and be good as long as your home IP address stays the same.

Posted by: OpTi

Quote:

Originally posted by BeyondTheTech
That's the reason why I don't like public WAP gateways. If you can trust your home broadband connection to work properly, you can set up NowWAP and be good as long as your home IP address stays the same.

does your computer always have to be on?

Posted by: cifrancgx

Quote:

Originally posted by OpTi
i just tried it couple of minutes ago and it didn't work . It worked last night. Maybe it's down now?

Down for me to. It has been for hours now.

Posted by: 762x51

Great post BeyondTheTech. Thanks for the info.

Posted by: kidgenius

Quote:

Originally posted by OpTi
does your computer always have to be on?

Yes. You need your computer to be acting as the gateway.

Posted by: BrandonClaps

I installed NOW Wap, and it works perfectly... How much is it to purchase? Are there any free wap proxys i can setup on my home computer?

Posted by: BrandonClaps

WTF??!?!!? i just had everything working great, I tried it again to change my homepage to tagtag.com/blazer380 and i get this message:

Welcome to VZW! For Mobile Web or Cust. Svc., call *611

WTF?!?!?!?!?

Posted by: twags

Last night (8/13), I tried setting up the Yahoo WAP site, using the directions at the beginning of this post, but so far I have not been able to connect at all. I had VZW Mobile Web 2 service running fine on the phone, but dropped the service to use the free WAP. Is anyone able to connect to a WAP site now, who does not have the VZW service enabled? If so, what are you using for the Yahoo username and password? When I click on the site and go to it from my PC, it does require that I enter my Yahoo mobile unsername and password, for which I'd previously registered. But I've tried it with those names in the V710 profile, as well as the script exactly as given here, but no connection. Anyone have any insigits?

Posted by: yukon10

I refuse to pay 4.99 for the lame service, but the FREE WAP would be nice. However all I get is Request Timed Out... I wonder the same if you have to be signed up for mw2.0 to use the free service...

Posted by: joehunterjr

Was using the yahoo wap and verizon locked me out last night allowing only their vzw wap account sign up screen to come up when I try to launch the yahoo wap. There now is a lock symbol by vzw in web sessions. Any ideas on how to negate this. I spoke with a vzw tech this morning. He says I have to use vzw as my wap to access anything on the web. Is he right or do they just want more $?

Posted by: OpTi

can anyone help me with now.wap? i already did setup everything according to this thread. do i just change the ip address to my ip address? i am behind a router, would that affect anything? i already did port foward 9201.

Posted by: MikeTheTyke

OpTi - the IP address that you use to access now.wap must be visible from the Internet. If you are behind a router that is OK as long as you are using a public IP address. I suspect that your router is doing Network Address Translation (NAT) and your IP address is not public and so the phone cannot see your now.wap gateway.

If your router is using NAT you can probably configure it to forward your now.wap port (8080) to your internal IP address where now.wap runs. Then you would use the IP address of your router as the gateway.

Posted by: angrymike

I wonder if us not being able connect is related to us using vzw as the password, with no username or even the fact that we are using some realtor guys gateway.

For those that have used the Wap Now, you might want to think about writing up a simple How-To. Ive been wanting to set it up but not sure how hard it would be since my computer is on a router.

Mike

Posted by: twags

I have a Yahoo Mobile account and have tried using that username and password with no luck on the V710. Same WAP address works fine from my PC, so I think VZW has disabled this way of connecting.

Posted by: XXLT

Quote:

Originally posted by BeyondTheTech
I remember reading a huge thread on WAP in the LG forum. You can use a program such as NowWAP on your home PC, open up your router to forward ports to your PC running it, then you can use your home IP address (hopefully cable, not DSL since it's more static) to surf away. No more relying on someone else's servers.

One thing I like doing is setting up multiple Web Sessions. I made a Yahoo one based on the first post on this thread, then copied the entry and changed the homepage for each web session. I also turned off caching (last option) so that it will pull new data everytime - that helped out for a printer-friendly movie listing page from Loews Theatre in New Brunswick, NJ: http://www.enjoytheshow.com/showtim...s.cfm?tid=AACPH

Don't know what to put for a homepage? Check Yahoo! Mobile's WAP directory at http://mobile.yahoo.com/resource_center/wapdir/home

Need quick driving directions? http://mobile.yahoo.com/dd

Don't want to spend $1.25 for 411? http://mobile.yahoo.com/yp or http://www.superpages.com

Are you Filipino? http://wap.pinoycentral.com/

Have fun!

I'd just like to point out that all this is possible using the standard VZW session. You can add all these links to you wap "Homepage". I've done so and use it with great success. I've also added a link to Yahoo's wap site for quick access to my email. Disadvantage is you need to pay the $4.95 per month, and there are just a couple of extra "arrow downs" to do once the session has started. Advantage is you dont need to set up WapNOW or have any special settings.

Find the customizable homepage here: http://getitnow.vzwshop.com/getweb.howtoguide.do?tab=2# , under heading "3" click on "Mobile Web 2.0 companion site" and follow the instructions from there.

Hope that helps!

Posted by: Kaster

Setting up the Now.Wap program is pretty simple.

This guide will assume you're behind a router.

1. We need to change your internal IP to a static IP, otherwise every computer restart, 'Now.Wap' will cease to work.

To do this, in WinXP:
Open 'Network Connections'
Left click on 'Local Area Connection' On the left side of that window some information should show up, displaying your computer's IP address, usually it's something like '192.168.0.3' or something similar (keep this window open for reference). Now, right click 'Local Area Connection', and click 'Properties', then Click on "Internet Protocol(TCP/IP)' and then 'Properties'. Click on 'Use the following IP address', we are going to enter an IP address similar to the IP address you are already using, only changing the last 3 numbers to '115', you can pick any number between 100-215 really, we're just trying to avoid bumping into a dynamically allocated IP. Now enter the same subnet mask as the previous window showed you, usually '255.255.255.0', the gateway and Prefered DNS should be your address, with a "1" as the last number, like "192.168.0.1". Now Click ok, and hopefully, you'll still be able to connect to the internet, if not, something went wrong, and go back to the inital settings.

2. Now that we have a static IP, we need to change the router settings to forward our 'Now.WAP' HTTP port to our computer.

To access the router settings, most of the time you can juse use a web browser, like so: http://192.168.0.1 (or your router's IP), please refer to your router manual if this doesn't work. Once you get to the router settings, you need to find a tab, or setting, related to "Port Forwarding". It will ask for an IP address to forward to, which will be your new IP address of your computer we just setup, in this case, "192.168.0.115", and it will ask for a port, use "8080", if it has a range of ports option, just put "8080" in both. You may needto click on "Enable" to activate that specific port setting. Now, Click on "apply" or "done" or something like that to apply the settings, and that should do it for that.

3. This still involves the router settings, so keep that window open.

You need to find your external IP address, usually the router has a tab called "status", where this is located.
Remember this WAN IP, you will need it for the phone setup.

4. Now we need to install Now.WAP.

Service Tab-> Click on "run as a service"
HTTP Tab->Enable the first 3 options. And enter "8080" as the HTTP Proxy Port.
Users Tab->Check all 3 boxes at the top. And add a user at the bottom, you will use this user name and password on your phone.

Click apply, and that should do it.

5. Now you have everything on the computer setup, onto the phone..

Menu->Settings->Mobile Web->Web Sessions->New Entry

Name: Any name you want
Homepage: Any of the WAP pages you want
UserID: The userID you made on Now.WAP
Password: The password you made for that UserID
Gateway IP: Your routers WAN IP, we got from step 3.
Port 1: 8080

6. Now set that new session to the default, and you should be able to browse WAP sites, using your home computer as the gateway.

Hope this helps, Good luck, if anything stops working, just go back to the default settings!

Posted by: ct2582

^ So if one does the listed steps, it's free?

I mean like, it'll just use your monthly airtime minutes?

Posted by: Kaster

ct2582, yes this method only uses your airtime minutes. However, Now.WAP is not free, and only comes with a 30-day free trial, so if you liked using this mehtod, you would need to buy that software.

Posted by: Linux23

I downloaded this program before but never used it. Does anyone have a direct link to download the software?

Posted by: BrandonClaps

www.nowwap.com

mine is working, i had setup a username and password before and forgot i saved it. its working now though......

I can't figure out how much it is though, it doesn't show anything on the web site about it.....???

Posted by: angrymike

I figure people could go this route instead of using yahoo wap which always seems to be down.

Posted by: vndragonslayer

it is not working. stuck on the connecting screen

Posted by: OpTi

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaster

Hope this helps, Good luck, if anything stops working, just go back to the default settings!

thanks a lot kaster!!! i was port fowarding 9201 instead of 8080. what should i do to safeguard it from getting "hacked" from spammers?

Posted by: OpTi

is there a free program?

Posted by: Kaster

Quote:

Originally posted by OpTi
thanks a lot kaster!!! i was port fowarding 9201 instead of 8080. what should i do to safeguard it from getting "hacked" from spammers?

As long as you made sure to check all of the boxes to ensure a username and password is required you should be fine.

Posted by: Linux23

Kaster,

That was way too easy to setup.

Posted by: Bushido

Regarding the 30-day trial, you might want to take a closer look in one page of that LG thread:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...5&pagenumber=14

Posted by: BrandonClaps

bushido

What you wrote, doesn't make any sense. Its not giving a value in notepad for that reg key... Are you missing something?

I have a config key when i browse to that using regedit

Posted by: OpTi

nevermind, i got it.

Posted by: BrandonClaps

Quote:

Originally posted by BrandonClaps
bushido

What you wrote, doesn't make any sense. Its not giving a value in notepad for that reg key... Are you missing something?

I have a config key when i browse to that using regedit

Posted by: ¿GotJazz?

I get the impression from this thread that the Free WAP service with Yahoo is no longer available. I tried the settings at the beginning of this thread on my V710, and I get a "timeout error" when trying to connect to the Yahoo WAP service.

So, is there a free WAP solution anymore?

Posted by: Bushido

The minus sign deletes the entry.

Posted by: OpTi

Quote:

Originally posted by ¿GotJazz?
I get the impression from this thread that the Free WAP service with Yahoo is no longer available. I tried the settings at the beginning of this thread on my V710, and I get a "timeout error" when trying to connect to the Yahoo WAP service.

So, is there a free WAP solution anymore?

you just have to find another free one or make your own. these free gateways come and go all the time.

Posted by: pmerk

[QUOTE]Originally posted by thepro8
[B]this uses airtime, but costs no money. I hope it helps. You can change the homepage to whatever you want and I don't know if you need the password, but just put it in. It doesn't hurt.

On my V710 I configured all of what you indicated. However, I cannot make a connection! All I get is connecting...connecting.. and then the phone times out. I have a full battery and about 2 bars of signal if that helps..

peter

Posted by: OpTi

Quote:

Originally posted by pmerk
[QUOTE]Originally posted by thepro8
[B]this uses airtime, but costs no money. I hope it helps. You can change the homepage to whatever you want and I don't know if you need the password, but just put it in. It doesn't hurt.

On my V710 I configured all of what you indicated. However, I cannot make a connection! All I get is connecting...connecting.. and then the phone times out. I have a full battery and about 2 bars of signal if that helps..

peter

it doesn't work anymore..just find another gateway

Posted by: BrandonClaps

what exactly is that entry? what does it do? What other programs depend on it?

Posted by: helloimderrick

So what is a new gateway that i can use to check my yahoo e-mail and get news and stuff if the one on the first page doesn't work?

Posted by: OpTi

Quote:

Originally posted by helloimderrick
So what is a new gateway that i can use to check my yahoo e-mail and get news and stuff if the one on the first page doesn't work?

i don't know how to look for a new one but you can create your own on your computer with now.wap.

Posted by: Bushido

Good god, people. The entry is made when you run NowWAP for the first time and it sets the 30-day trial. By deleting it, it will think it's starting the 30-day trial all over again, but all your settings will be intact.

Can you hear me now? Good.

Posted by: pmerk

Quote:

Originally posted by Bushido
Good god, people. The entry is made when you run NowWAP for the first time and it sets the 30-day trial. By deleting it, it will think it's starting the 30-day trial all over again, but all your settings will be intact.

Can you hear me now? Good.

I am just alittle embarrassed... I have no clue how to find a new gateway number so that I can use the wap connection browser on my V-710. I originally tried the WAP tutorial and now realize from the posts that the gateway will no longer work. I never did get connected anyway. Please someone provide a new gateway and homepage if I need this so I dont have to subscribe to Verizon services..

Posted by: BrandonClaps

Quote:

chill dude, i'm obviously going to ask if its deleting a registery key. Its not something that looks obvious that it created it either thats why i'm inquiring.

Posted by: Bushido

It's all good. You should have seen the idiots over at LG when I was trying to teach them how to use it in the first place.

You'd think people who know the ins and outs of their phones would know a thing or two about their desktops or notebooks their trying to hack from. Such wasn't the case there, and I almost threw up trying to repeat myself.

Posted by: sparks

Bushido,

If I find out my company's ip address, can I use that as a gateway?

Thanks,

Posted by: angrymike

Am I the only one having problems connecting using WAP NOW? I am on a Netgear Router. Ive changed my internal IP address and have even given the right IP address assigned by my IP. I still cannot connect. I have the right ports (8080) and the right port forwarding, I seriously cannot understand what I am doing wrong

Anyone have any extra tips or such?

I just keep on the connecting screen then a timeout.

Mike

*****On a sidenote, while skimming through the LG thread, someone suggested *228 (to get the security enabled), even though this has nothing to do with my problem I did it anyways, and chose option 1 for activation.

After the activation was done, I was able to connect back to the yahoo server with no problem.

I was still UNABLE to connect to my NOW WAP server though

Posted by: Linux23

For those that want to know their external Internet IP address click below.

Your IP Address

then go into your phone and set that as the gateway ip and port 8080.

go into your router and forward port 8080 to the ip address of the PC that is hosting Now.Wap and you should be all set.

Posted by: angrymike

I have all the right IP addresses set up, all the port forwarding from my router set up, and the port to 8080 set up. Ive double checked everything on both my phone and my computer. I honestly cannot see what I am doing wrong. But if my Yahoo is working, and everyone else's isnt, im happy.

Mike

Posted by: Damage

I put in all the settings listed on the first post in this thread and I still can't connect at all. I triple checked the settings too. All I get is the connecting msg.

Posted by: Linux23

Quote:

Originally posted by Damage
I put in all the settings listed on the first post in this thread and I still can't connect at all. I triple checked the settings too. All I get is the connecting msg.

did you read the thread? that WAP gateway is not working anymore.

Posted by: Damage

Quote:

Originally posted by Linux23
did you read the thread? that WAP gateway is not working anymore.

Is there another gateway I can use other than setting up my own?

Posted by: BeyondTheTech

I suppose the old adage should apply here... "if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself."

I, too, like to use the public gateways when possible, but who knows what data is being tracked or shared, whether it be a contact you're looking up in the White Pages, or if you're trying to get to your email.

It will probably take you no more than 10 minutes to set up everything and just link to your home from your phone. Can't beat that with a bat!

Posted by: Hoffer

Just finished reading this thread from front to back. Can't wait to get home after work and setup WAP NOW!!

Posted by: bgates222

how do you navigate to other websites ? like google or somewhere else how do u put the url in? do u have to go into the edit browser section

Posted by: needforspd

my free wap still works. and i used the instructions on the first page when i set this up last friday.
tried to connect just now after reading it doesnt work anymore and im connected and im using yahoo;s wap as my home page.

Posted by: brettolsen

When I try to lanch my WAP it says Error: Request timed out. Can someone please help me?

Posted by: angrymike

For those that can no longer connect using the Yahoo WAP method. Call *228 and redo the activation process.

Restars your phone and then try connecting again. You should be able to.

Mike

Posted by: vndragonslayer

sorry im a noob at this but can someone help me out.

yesterday i tried the yahoo method n it doesnt work n i tried other ip. same result

today i tried the yahoo ip and the verizon screen pop show subsribe to service for 4.99. i hit back n it just keeps showing conecting. how long does it normally take to connect for it to work?

i dont want to pay for wap because i'm not going to be using it alot. just using it to check weather once in a while. help me out please

Posted by: JQuick323i

Does this server have the same speed as the verizon isp? If so, I might drop my Mobile Web from my account.

Posted by: inkman

Several folks have asked about the cost to license the Now.Wap gateway software. Their web site offers no clue as to pricing. I downloaded their 30-day demo software and installed it on my NT 4.0 Server and it works just flawlessly with my v710. I wrote to the company to inquire about prices and here was their response:

Quote:

Thanks for your interest in Now Wireless, and our software solutions.

Our licensing is based on concurrent sessions. Our pricing reflects a
one-time software license charge that currently includes free software
updates and discussion board support for the first year. After the first
year, this is renewable on a per annum basis. The cost is 20% of the
software license cost.

Non-WTLS Now WAP Proxy

Code:

 
Concurrent		
   Session		List Price
         5			£     750
       10			£  1,420
       25			£  3,370
       50			£  6,000
     100			£11,250
     250			£22,500
     500			£30,000
  1,000			£45,000

All Prices Excluding Taxes, and VAT. Shipping is via UPS for an additional
£30._ Payment methods are credit card (AMEX, Mastercard, Visa) and wire
(bank) transfer._ All Errors and Omissions Excluded..

For those of you who are in the USA like me, I took the liberty of converting pounds to dollars. Here's today's exchange rate:
750 British Pound = 1,363.42 US Dollars

So, for all of us who are looking to save the five dollars a month Verizon wants for their Gateway, Wap.Now probably isn't looking too attractive considering the payback period of 273 months (about 23 years). I love my v710, but I doubt I'll hold onto it for that long.

If anybody finds a more reasonably priced option for Windows, please post it here. Also, if somebody can post _explicit_ instructions for getting a gateway running on FreeBSD, it would also be appreciated.

Michael Keen
michael.keen@inksite.com

Posted by: Bushido

Too expensive to purchase, but if you want to keep the trial going for a little bit longer, use the registry hack.

Posted by: m12122_310-560

Is there a way to use a combination of the "airtime only internet" and "Now.WAP" on a Motorola v400? I see the discussion about putting it on a v710, but will it work on a v400? Thanks again!

Posted by: OpTi

it should work on the v400 since it's just a gateway but i'm not sure.

Posted by: sc10000

Are there any alternative wap gateway softwares that run on windows?

Posted by: s2kohio

I am beta testing the new WAP 2.0 portal on mobileweb4u and it is awesome. WAP 2.0 puts wap 1.1 to shame. I used to use it just for weather and movies, but now, you can surf lots of sites. They are putting together a bunch of nice links.

This is just an FYI - I am not looking for flames that I am advertising for them. I am just a happy subscriber since 2/04.

I am posting this here in case anyone is interested in beta testing their product. They said they are looking for beta testers now, but I don't know how long that offer will last.

S2k

Posted by: nike1051

I have a question...I added a new entry and named it test since I allready have a working WAP entry. Now I want to delete 1 of the entry's how do I do this (it's not locked or anything)

Posted by: tbernardi

I set up Now.Wap, and it is working, but I guess I expected the various sites like Google or ESPN to look more graphical then they do with WAP 2.0.

What kind of differences should one expect. Could something not be set up right? WAP 2.0 proxy is enabled in Now.Wap. I am using TagTag as my WAP menu.

Or am I just expecting too much.

Also, seems like wap.oa.yahoo.com is down at the moment.

Posted by: sc10000

Are there a is freeware wap 2.0 gateway that will run on windows? I know about Kannel, but that's for linux, etc.

Posted by: mkempton

Does anyone else get a "Network Unavailable" message when using WAP? My WAP session hangs and then just shuts down and the phone shows no signal for five to ten seconds before reverting back to normal. It doesn't always happen, but it's happened a half dozen times in about twice that many attempts. I've only connected to Yahoo and HoFo so far.

Posted by: sc10000

That's prob because you're using a public gateway. If we can get some freeware wap 2.0 gateway we're home free.

Posted by: BeyondTheTech

Quote:

Originally posted by sclark10000
Are there a is freeware wap 2.0 gateway that will run on windows? I know about Kannel, but that's for linux, etc.

Wow, I almost had a literary aneurysm by staring at that first sentence.

Quote:

Originally posted by nike1051
I have a question...I added a new entry and named it test since I allready have a working WAP entry. Now I want to delete 1 of the entry's how do I do this (it's not locked or anything)

Make sure that WAP entry is not set as a default. Best way to do that is set another item as a default, then you can highlight the WAP entry, hit your middle button, and the Delete option will be there.

Posted by: sc10000

Ooops must have been late.

OK, now I'm pissed. I got now.wap working great and cancelled Verizon mobile web; seems they didn't just turn off mobile web, they disabled it, so now my own wap gateway doesn't work either!!! :doh
------------------------

Nevemind. It was just caching the VZ page...once you setup your own wap gateway, set it as default & set a wap portal other than VZ, it works. If you still get the VZ 'sign up for mobile web', click home & it'll take you to the right place.

Posted by: tbernardi

I've been using Wap.now for a few days. It is working fine but I was expecting the content of the web sites I hit to be more graphical.

How would you compare MobileWeb to what you are seeing with wap.now? Is it the same. Should I be blown away by sites like Yahoo, ESPN, CNET?

I see some graphics, but not much.

Quote:

Originally posted by sclark10000
Ooops must have been late.

Nevemind. It was just caching the VZ page...once you setup your own wap gateway, set it as default & set a wap portal other than VZ, it works. If you still get the VZ 'sign up for mobile web', click home & it'll take you to the right place.

Posted by: sc10000

Verizon portal is wap 2.0. I bet most of the wap sites out there are still wap 1.1

Check this link for some wap sites:

http://www.palowireless.com/wap/portals.asp

Another way to access WAP2.0 XHTML content sites
is to use a free service like:

http://www.webxcope.com

it maps a majority of exisitng HTML web sites into
xhtml sites.

Posted by: jun14scr

er... anybody want to share their IP with me? pretty pretty please?

btw... my wap is workin.. and im usin the settins on the first page

Posted by: lshatch

I did the setup as required for being behind a router and when I try to log on with the web browser on my phone it doesn't work, it says "Network down". I am currently in an extended network and my phone is using another company's cell phone tower. Could this be why?

Thanks

Posted by: the aftermath

Edit: Nevermind, I read through the thread. Gah!

Posted by: thrillho

just curious as to what happened to the method of copying the standard included vzw profile in the v710 and changing the user name and the home page?

cause that works for me. and i found an interesting quirk doing that too.

so is vzw gonna get mad at me for this? cause im not using their homepage.... i dont think

Posted by: Tomba

Has anyone found any more WAP 2.0 publin Ipa ddress? I had my heaset all hooked up, than did a master reset and wipped out al my WAP ××××!

Posted by: Quatre

doesn't seem to work anymore. Might be the gateway ip is no good anymore. in another thread setting this up it had a link to list of proxies but there is no way to know how long it will last.

This one on first page of this thread seemed to last for awhile and for a good number of ppl.

can someone post a link to other gateway ips that will work

Posted by: dliliedahl

Is there anyone who has gotten this to work with Wap.now and that does NOT have VZW MobileWeb service? I'm trying to get it working with my own gateway but want to first know if it will even work without MobileWeb enabled.

Posted by: dr.smith

Quote:

Originally posted by dliliedahl
Is there anyone who has gotten this to work with Wap.now and that does NOT have VZW MobileWeb service? I'm trying to get it working with my own gateway but want to first know if it will even work without MobileWeb enabled.

I use my own WAP.Now gateway to access a number of web sites with my phone, and I don't subscribe to anything from Verizon beyond America's Choice phone service. No data plan, no nothing. Being the only user on a broadband-connected WAP gateway makes it pretty fast. Hack away, bro.

Posted by: Quatre

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Quote:

Originally posted by dr.smith

Quote:

Originally posted by dliliedahl
Is there anyone who has gotten this to work with Wap.now and that does NOT have VZW MobileWeb service? I'm trying to get it working with my own gateway but want to first know if it will even work without MobileWeb enabled.

I use my own WAP.Now gateway to access a number of web sites with my phone, and I don't subscribe to anything from Verizon beyond America's Choice phone service. No data plan, no nothing. Being the only user on a broadband-connected WAP gateway makes it pretty fast. Hack away, bro.

What is wap.now? I'm writing this from my toshiba phone on sprint which is a much better screen and interface then the moto on verizon. Also t9 text input is great on this phone and i can type fast. Itap on the moto is horrible. Also the web is so slow with whatevet gateway i use. The one from here still doesn't work so i use the instructions from nuclear elephant which just has a link to some proxies. Also i don't think you need the password. Anyway what is a faster gateway i an use? What is wap.now? Its too slow on the moto luckily i'm keeping sprint and the toshiba phone is great. I can't really use web on verizon during the week before mind anyway because i added on to my womans plan

Posted by: ScottSwingleCom

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatre
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I use my own WAP.Now gateway to access a number of web sites with my phone, and I don't subscribe to anything from Verizon beyond America's Choice phone service. No data plan, no nothing. Being the only user on a broadband-connected WAP gateway makes it pretty fast. Hack away, bro.

Posted by: Neros

Why even use a WAP gateway with the 710? I am just running a simple HTTP Proxy, and it is plenty fast. In fact, as I discovered, the phone browser requires the "Content-Length" header, which some sites dont send out.. I modified my proxy to add this header if it is not already included. Seems like people can get around the WAP.now registration/frustration, if they are only trying to connect a 710 to the net, by just setting up a simple web proxy.

Posted by: dr.smith

Quote:

Originally posted by Neros
Why even use a WAP gateway with the 710? I am just running a simple HTTP Proxy, and it is plenty fast. In fact, as I discovered, the phone browser requires the "Content-Length" header, which some sites dont send out.. I modified my proxy to add this header if it is not already included. Seems like people can get around the WAP.now registration/frustration, if they are only trying to connect a 710 to the net, by just setting up a simple web proxy.

What proxy are you using that adds the "Content-Length" header?

Posted by: Neros

Quote:

Originally posted by dr.smith
What proxy are you using that adds the "Content-Length" header?

I should have been a bit more upfront..

I am using squid, which does not yet add the header (though I am looking at the source, and have a pretty good idea of how to do it.. will work on that tonight and tomorrow).. but in the meantime, I wrote a little php wrapper that downloads content from any url I give it, and adds the content length header (it also modifies the links to go through the php script, so links off the script are added as well).

Posted by: dliliedahl

Got it working great with my own Wap.now server! Interesting how VZW does not charge for data usage like other carriers. Perhaps their bean counters figured they could get more revenue by giving away the network data access and charging instead for the services on top of it (GIN, per message charges for EVERYTHING - AIM, PIX, etc). Anyways, using your own gateway with your own pixplace server certainly levels that playing field. I wonder how long before they start charging by MB usage?

Posted by: sc10000

Quote:

Originally posted by dliliedahl
I wonder how long before they start charging by MB usage?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Don't give them any ideas.

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally posted by ScottSwingleCom
What is wap.now? I'm writing this from my toshiba phone on sprint which is a much better screen and interface then the moto on verizon. Also t9 text input is great on this phone and i can type fast. Itap on the moto is horrible. Also the web is so slow with whatevet gateway i use. The one from here still doesn't work so i use the instructions from nuclear elephant which just has a link to some proxies. Also i don't think you need the password. Anyway what is a faster gateway i an use? What is wap.now? Its too slow on the moto luckily i'm keeping sprint and the toshiba phone is great. I can't really use web on verizon during the week before mind anyway because i added on to my womans plan

If you would read the other posts, you would see that wap.now is a wap server software you can install on your pc to use your home internet connection to get internet on the phone.

I use it with my v710 and its REALLY fast. Much better than any other gateway I have tried. [/B][/QUOTE]

oh ok sorry. I was going to search it and find out about wap.now but thankyou for explaining.

My main question then would be do you then have to leave your computer or at least your home broadband connection on to use it from your phone? something i really dont want to do. also how far can you be? i guess its still a gateway you setup so i'm assuming no limit on distance as if it was wifi or bt.

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

oh wap.now has a long registration? that sucks. yeah i'd rather just use a web proxy. maybe the one i'm using is just slow because yeah stuff takes pretty long to load etc. especially compared to my sprint phone with vision which is much quicker to do the same thing like access the wap version of these forums.

Not to mention the fact that the toshiba screen is just bigger in web application and easier to type on and uses much better t9. So even if the moto was equally as fast at web I'd still have to deal with the smaller screen usage and horrible itap . i just use abc mode but it smuch slower then t9, oh well.

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally posted by dliliedahl
Got it working great with my own Wap.now server! Interesting how VZW does not charge for data usage like other carriers. Perhaps their bean counters figured they could get more revenue by giving away the network data access and charging instead for the services on top of it (GIN, per message charges for EVERYTHING - AIM, PIX, etc). Anyways, using your own gateway with your own pixplace server certainly levels that playing field. I wonder how long before they start charging by MB usage?

Verizon not charging for something that other carriers do? thast unheard of. I dont know of any carriers that charge for MB usage in fact i think its horrible of verizon to use your minutes for web use making it only realistic to do at night or weekends and that includes using the BT of the v710 to connect laptop or palm to the net. wouldn't want to do that during peak hours and use all your minutes and run up overage charges.

Sprint has unlimited web that doesnt' use minutes. Did i mention the toshiba 4050 is a great phone for browsing teh mobile web, chatting and even makes posting msgs on forums like these realistic. I noticed noone really posts on here with any verizon phones including the v710. i did but it is pretty torturous with the slowness of the web on it and the horrible itap and bad phone layout.

On sprintusers.com forum it is pretty common to see ppl post wirelessly from their phones.

Posted by: dr.smith

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatre
My main question then would be do you then have to leave your computer or at least your home broadband connection on to use it from your phone? something i really dont want to do. also how far can you be? i guess its still a gateway you setup so i'm assuming no limit on distance as if it was wifi or bt.

This question always kills me. How would you expect it to function if you don't leave it turned on?
As far as distance is concerned, you're not understanding what wap.now does. It acts as a gateway by sitting on a broadband Internet connection and accepting wap/http requests OVER THE INTERNET, which it then routes to their destination, returning the reply to the originator (your phone). You make the connection to the gateway by using your handset to connect to the Internet via Verizon Wireless's 1xRTT packet data service, for which you pay minutes from your plan.

Posted by: dliliedahl

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatre
Verizon not charging for something that other carriers do? thast unheard of. I dont know of any carriers that charge for MB usage in fact i think its horrible of verizon to use your minutes for web use making it only realistic to do at night or weekends and that includes using the BT of the v710 to connect laptop or palm to the net. wouldn't want to do that during peak hours and use all your minutes and run up overage charges.

Nextel has a data rate plan that is tiered - I think you can get 5, 10 and 50 MB/month. It allows you to use your phone as a modem through your PC on the packet data stream. (You do use up minutes on top of it). I used it for a while to get email while I was at airports, etc.

T-mobile has a data only plan that I used to use for my sidekick - very reasonable unlimited MB for $30/month. They also do not charge you for minutes. The downside is that a color sidekick goes for about $300, and the phone has a lousy form factor. It is unparalled for its IM, text messaging, and especially email, but not useful at all as a phone. Ultimately why I got rid of it.

I was hoping the 710 would replace both of these devices, which is why I got rid of them for it. So far I have been sorely disappointed. Lets hope the hacker fund is fruitful, I gave my $25!

Posted by: pip611

could someone post a quick tutorial on how to setup WAP.Now for the V710? Thanks

Posted by: Quatre

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Quote:

Originally posted by dliliedahl

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatre
Verizon not charging for something that other carriers do? thast unheard of. I dont know of any carriers that charge for MB usage in fact i think its horrible of verizon to use your minutes for web use making it only realistic to do at night or weekends and that includes using the BT of the v710 to connect laptop or palm to the net. wouldn't want to do that during peak hours and use all your minutes and run up overage charges.

Nextel has a data rate plan that is tiered - I think you can get 5, 10 and 50 MB/month. It allows you to use your phone as a modem through your PC on the packet data stream. (You do use up minutes on top of it). I used it for a while to get email while I was at airports, etc.

T-mobile has a data only plan that I used to use for my sidekick - very reasonable unlimited MB for $30/month. They also do not charge you for minutes. The downside is that a color sidekick goes for about $300, and the phone has a lousy form factor. It is unparalled for its IM, text messaging, and especially email, but not useful at all as a phone. Ultimately why I got rid of it.

I was hoping the 710 would replace both of these devices, which is why I got rid of them for it. So far I have been sorely disappointed. Lets hope the hacker fund is fruitful, I gave my $25!

I'd recommend the phone i'm typing this with. The toshiba 9950 for sprint.

Posted by: Quatre

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Quote:

Originally posted by dr.smith

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatre
My main question then would be do you then have to leave your computer or at least your home broadband connection on to use it from your phone? something i really dont want to do. also how far can you be? i guess its still a gateway you setup so i'm assuming no limit on distance as if it was wifi or bt.

This question always kills me. How would you expect it to function if you don't leave it turned on?
As far as distance is concerned, you're not understanding what wap.now does. It acts as a gateway by sitting on a broadband Internet connection and accepting wap/http requests OVER THE INTERNET, which it then routes to their destination, returning the reply to the originator (your phone). You make the connection to the gateway by using your handset to connect to the Internet via Verizon Wireless's 1xRTT packet data service, for which you pay minutes from your plan.

Posted by: ScottSwingleCom

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatre
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This question always kills me. How would you expect it to function if you don't leave it turned on?
As far as distance is concerned, you're not understanding what wap.now does. It acts as a gateway by sitting on a broadband Internet connection and accepting wap/http requests OVER THE INTERNET, which it then routes to their destination, returning the reply to the originator (your phone). You make the connection to the gateway by using your handset to connect to the Internet via Verizon Wireless's 1xRTT packet data service, for which you pay minutes from your plan.

Yeah i understand. I might try this only because its so slow right now but they may just be the gateway i'm using. Maybe i can find one that is faster. Regardless i won't use it much anyway because i have free web on sprint which is much faster and looks better not to mention this screen is better them the moto and this t9 text input is great and i can type east on phone while the moto itap is useless and horrible so none of this matter because i won't use the moto on verizon unless its night or weekend when minutes are free and only when my sprint phone doesn't have signal which is rare or when it stop out of battery because i use it so much. I really feel sorry for verizo people that sprin [/B][/QUOTE]

Dude, you have like, 10 posts about how you like your T9 and don't like iTap. Fine, good for you. Go away now.
I think itap is fine, although it works much better in the phone software than it does in openwave.

About the gateways, I run my own Now.Wap server and pages pop up instantly. Much faster than any other gateway I have tried.

Posted by: Quatre

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Originally posted by Neros
Why even use a WAP gateway with the 710? I am just running a simple HTTP Proxy, and it is plenty fast. In fact, as I discovered, the phone browser requires the "Content-Length" header, which some sites dont send out.. I modified my proxy to add this header if it is not already included. Seems like people can get around the WAP.now registration/frustration, if they are only trying to connect a 710 to the net, by just setting up a simple web proxy.

oh wap.now has a long registration? that sucks. yeah i'd rather just use a web proxy. maybe the one i'm using is just slow because yeah stuff takes pretty long to load etc. especially compared to my sprint phone with vision which is much quicker to do the same thing like access the wap version of these forums.

Not to mention the fact that the toshiba screen is just bigger in web application and easier to type on and uses much better t9. So even if the moto was equally as fast at web I'd still have to deal with the smaller screen usage and horrible itap . i just use abc mode but it smuch slower then t9, oh well.

What http proxy are you using or do you have another that is equally as fast to recommend? The one i use on the onto is so slow. Is snap shot on the onto like bookmark? Maybe a wap site with proxies that i could access from this phone when my proxy on the moto is slow or not working. Or should i just return the moto and cancel verizon wild i still can? Is it worth keeping just to use as mp3 player or to put movies on the trans flash. Long as i can get it for cheap. Once sprint has a blue tooth phone with extra memory like trans flash i'll get back back not of verizo so quick. I only came because sprint doesn't yet have a phone with those features which is the first time ever happening.

Posted by: Quatre

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i think i posted a quote of me quoting myself quoting someone else sorry. anyway its after nine now and i'm still stuck at photographer picking wedding pics with my wife. my sprint phone is low on battery. i need a faster proxy or wap site with list of them. this one i'm using is too slow.

Posted by: 330xi

nevermind..

Posted by: fishfuzz

As an update for those having problems with the various WAP IPs here.

Try a Google search for public proxy - then modify your settings to match the server that fits your location.

Remeber that proxies use HTTP not WAP, and be sure to note the port.

I've found proxies to be much faster and more reliable than the free WAP servers out there (unless you are running your own).

Posted by: tbone586

Hey guys;

It's not quite free, but cheaper than Verizon's mobile Web, faster and more versatile than the free yahoo gateway, plus you get great tech support:

www.MobileWeb4U.com

Please note: I don't work for them, and don't make any $ off referals. This is just a public service, and I'd like them to get enough users to stay in business, as I've been happy with them. Check it out. I think they will refund your $ if you're not happy.

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally posted by fishfuzz
As an update for those having problems with the various WAP IPs here.

Try a Google search for public proxy - then modify your settings to match the server that fits your location.

Remeber that proxies use HTTP not WAP, and be sure to note the port.

I've found proxies to be much faster and more reliable than the free WAP servers out there (unless you are running your own).

hm i think i even have a program that finds proxies. so yeah I'll find some somehow and just try a couple others until i find a faster one because yeah the one i'm using right now is making the web much slower then it is on my sprint phone so i never want to use it. Its bad enough that the typing on the moto phone is bad. I heard that is motos fault. I usually like moto but yeah i think they didn't do a good job with the text input. they should have used T9. I got used to it with teh web typing say for a forum. But the txt msg typing is downright slow, unintuative and just downright bad. Its easier/faster to just use abc and scrolll through all the letter and thats sad. oh well.

Posted by: Quatre

wow i'm waiting to load the wap page of this thread in my phone and it is really still slow even with a new http proxy one that is rated with teh highest speed of the list i found of 33 as opposed to as low as 1 so i dunno. am i doing something wrong why is it so slow?

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatre
wow i'm waiting to load the wap page of this thread in my phone and it is really still slow even with a new http proxy one that is rated with teh highest speed of the list i found of 33 as opposed to as low as 1 so i dunno. am i doing something wrong why is it so slow?

now none of the ones i try are working
all i'm chaing from the old one i had working is the ip and the port. the old one at least worked though slow. every other one i try doesn't work at all and now i already wrote over the one that worked

please help.

are we supposed to change the two settings that both have 9201?

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Originally posted by Quatre

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Originally posted by Quatre
wow i'm waiting to load the wap page of this thread in my phone and it is really still slow even with a new http proxy one that is rated with teh highest speed of the list i found of 33 as opposed to as low as 1 so i dunno. am i doing something wrong why is it so slow?

now none of the ones i try are working
all i'm chaing from the old one i had working is the ip and the port. the old one at least worked though slow. every other one i try doesn't work at all and now i already wrote over the one that worked

please help.

are we supposed to change the two settings that both have 9201?

ok i got it working and this one seems a little faster but on much' is there any way to get it working faster like sprints

Posted by: Quatre

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ok i got it working and this one seems a little faster but on much' is there any way to get it working faster like sprints

Posted by: tbernardi

What is it exactly that you find wrong with iTap? I like it better than T9 and find it very easy and fast to use. I have no problems with it and I used to have a phone with T9.

You seem very happy with Sprint and your phone on that service and I wonder why you are spending so much time on another solution when you original is working well for you.

I use Now.Wap and am happy with the speed that I get, however I have never compared it to Sprint. I use WAP very rarely and voice and service of Verizon is most important to me.

Posted by: mxv

I've never used the phone for internet before and can't seem to figure out how to make this work. Going by a website that lists proxy servers, can someone please direct me to how to properly configure the settings on the phone?

Posted by: fishfuzz

Use the instructions at the beginning of this thread to modify your existing (or create new) entries. Then just make sure you are using the proper IPs and protocols (ie HTTP v WAP).

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally posted by tbernardi
What is it exactly that you find wrong with iTap? I like it better than T9 and find it very easy and fast to use. I have no problems with it and I used to have a phone with T9.

You seem very happy with Sprint and your phone on that service and I wonder why you are spending so much time on another solution when you original is working well for you.

I use Now.Wap and am happy with the speed that I get, however I have never compared it to Sprint. I use WAP very rarely and voice and service of Verizon is most important to me.

iTap does just not work as intuitively or as quickly as T9. just use both and you will see. it also depends on the phone and ppl have complained about motorolas implementation , its a known thing . i'm not going to explain every detail of entering text with both but it is just slower and not good.

Why am i spending so much time on another solution? I just liked the phone and saw it as an oppurtinity to add to my womans plan and take advantage of in calling with fam and freinds and get to play around with another fund and have fun hacking it etc. There is nothing wrong with compareing and i can talk about another carrier or phone without being bashed by ppl that are only loyal to one thing just because that is what they have.

i dont wantdo lengthy registration and to use wap.now and leave my pc on all the time. i already stated that maybe its the proxy but i have used several and it is just slower then web on sprint, which is well liked and known to be good. there is nothing wrong with stating unbiased opinion and fact just because its not the carrier of the phone on topic, ppl might be interested.

But keeping on topic, how can you say you are so happy wiht it and then at the same time say you really dont use it much and just have verizon for voice and service when this is a wap thread.

Posted by: tbernardi

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Originally posted by Quatre
But keeping on topic, how can you say you are so happy wiht it and then at the same time say you really dont use it much and just have verizon for voice and service when this is a wap thread.

You have a point here. I have researched WAP quite a bit because I really want the ability to check weather, news, stocks sports, movies, etc. When I initially set it up I used it quite a bit. But, it's true I don't use it that often. Maybe once a week.

I think the LG 6000 has T9, which I had before and I do not really notice much of a difference, but you must use it quite a bit.

I have no problem with you posting your opinion. That's what makes these forums so educational. I am not a V710 or Verizon die hard.

I posted my comment because you seem to repeat the same thing about T9 and Sprint and your motive wasn't clear.

Now.wap asks for your name, e-mail address and phone number. I don't recall a long registration form.

If I used it as much as you seem to, I would probably pay for MobileWeb. Too bad it uses minutes as well or it would be a great service. Speed is fairly good now also.

Well, good luck.

Posted by: Quatre

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Originally posted by tbernardi
You have a point here. I have researched WAP quite a bit because I really want the ability to check weather, news, stocks sports, movies, etc. When I initially set it up I used it quite a bit. But, it's true I don't use it that often. Maybe once a week.

I think the LG 6000 has T9, which I had before and I do not really notice much of a difference, but you must use it quite a bit.

I have no problem with you posting your opinion. That's what makes these forums so educational. I am not a V710 or Verizon die hard.

I posted my comment because you seem to repeat the same thing about T9 and Sprint and your motive wasn't clear.

Now.wap asks for your name, e-mail address and phone number. I don't recall a long registration form.

If I used it as much as you seem to, I would probably pay for MobileWeb. Too bad it uses minutes as well or it would be a great service. Speed is fairly good now also.

Well, good luck.

sorry for repeating my point. i have a tendency to do that without knowing it even or just for diff reasons loosing track its the same thread or whatever. Maybe the T9 on the vx6000 isn't as good as the Toshiba 9950 which i use it on and it is just really good. i dont think the vx6000 is that good of a phone at all actually, it was just the one that everyone on verizon had for awhile because it was cheap and thy thought the oleds were cool. i never liked it.

as far as now.wap reg, i was actually only repeating others saying it was long so i dont know.

I also am not die hard or maybe loyal is the better word to any phone or carrier. i go with whatever has the best phones, service, pricing etc. I do admit to being fairly anti Verizon though and only came for this phone and to have free in calling with certain freinds/fam. Believe me i talk about the v710 on sprint forums and everyone gets mad and thinks i'm like pro verizon anti sprint. i can't win

As far as mobile web you make a very good point about verizons using minutes even if you are getting it free using web session. This is just one of the reasons verizon sucks, sorry.

You would find you would probably use the web a lot more if you had Vision web on sprint which is unlimited and is very good and fast. Hopefully Sprint will get even better and continue to get the best phones first and verizon won't get any more good ones at all as has always been the case up until the fluke of the v710. Then everyone can join sprint instead of verizon and all the in calling will be there.

As it is , most ppl i know of that dont have verizon do have sprint so they are at lesat the 2nd most usec carrier. I would actually be interested in seeing % of ppl on each carrier especially in my areas. So i get free mobile to mobile to other sprint customers as well and if anything Verizon has more exceptions to this i've heard then ppl realize and up until a month ago were charging a fee for in calling. That is totally rediculous but is basically how they do everything charging for anything and everythign they can and getting away with it. i wish ppl would wisen up to their ways.. its just more are brainwashed into thinking verizon is better somehow. It Philadelphia and surrounding areas its about equal signal wise, in fact there are many instances where Sprint has signal and Verizon didn't. this also depends on phone i know and in those cases it wsa usually my sanyo 5500 vs. a lg vx6000 on verizon.

Verizon does seem to have the edge in buildings. but as i said hopefully sprint will improve even more and its funny how many ppl dont realize how much better they are in most ways. hopefully next time verizon wont get a good phone that sprint doesn't and i wont have to have 3 phones on 2 carrier.

sorry verizon lovers. that is just me, i like the phone not the carrier.

Posted by: KrispyV710

Hey Guys (and gals),

I have looked through this thread and I am still having trouble setting up my Wap now gateway, I have looked at the tutorial on setting up the gateway and I am still running into problems.

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could tell me what options they have enabled on their wap now program (I dont need your Ip address) just the other stuff, I am hoping that this will solve my problem.

Also, if this helps I am getting a "connection time out" error message....

and finally it seems that my Wap now account doesn't show any attempts by me to access my computer as a gateway,

it would really make my day if I could find out how to get internet access without paying verizon for it

Thanks in advance!!!

(sorry if this has been answered in another thread) I have tried everything I know and I am still having problems)

Posted by: mkempton

Quote:

Originally posted by Quatre
sorry verizon lovers. that is just me, i like the phone not the carrier.

This has got to be the first time this has ever been uttered about Verizon!

Posted by: KrispyV710

Does anyone care to explain which settings I need to have if I am using a public IP address, do I just need to have the port number and Ip address?

anyone?

Posted by: samkatz

Two weeks ago Yahoo Mail stopped functioning properly on my V710. I am using Verizon Mob Web 2.0 w/link

Yahoo seemed to "enhance" their mailbox adding a little "pick" "unpick" checkbox next to messages. Each unread message is highlighted in BOLD and streams across the screen. You put the cursor on the mesage and hit "READ" on the right soft key. On my phone "READ" does nothing on previously unread messages.

I sent message to Yahoo after a long search to find an actual mailbox for help.Got this response copied at end of this post.

Apparently Yahoo just started "officially" supporting this phone on10/15. If you
go into your "mail" directory on the canned VZ Mobile W 2. homepage, yahoo mail is now a choice along w/hotmail., etc

Unfortuanately, on my phone it just doesnt function. The only way for me to read new messages is to find an old
previously read message, click on it, and hit "previous"....

So far Yahoo has not responded to my 2nd request for help.

Is anyone else using Yahoo Mail having this exp?

Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:21:55 -0700-0700
Hello,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Mobile.

We have escalated this issue to our Mobile Production Team. According
to them, the model of your phone will be officially supported this
week.
Once this model is launched you will be able to sign in to your Yahoo!
Mail account.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.

Regards,

Chloe

Yahoo! Customer Care

Posted by: KrispyV710

Quote:

Originally posted by KrispyV710
Does anyone care to explain which settings I need to have if I am using a public IP address, do I just need to have the port number and Ip address?

anyone?

where's the love...

Posted by: ivan a rom

i used the directions posted to set up nowWAP and my "user sessions today" counter goes up but i am never able to fully log on nor do i see a change in data transfer counts...any help?

Posted by: KrispyV710

I guess everyone has gotten tired of this and has moved on to something else...

Chris

Posted by: fishfuzz

All you need is the IP, the port, and the type (WAP or HTTP).

Posted by: KrispyV710

Quote:

Originally posted by fishfuzz
All you need is the IP, the port, and the type (WAP or HTTP).

thank you, how do I know which type to use WAP or HTTP, also what do I do for the other values?...do I just leave them blank...or at the factory default?

Thanks for the help fuzz

Chris

Posted by: ScottSwingleCom

Use HTTP

Posted by: ivan a rom

welll my user sessions is still going up w/o me actually logging on, i am watching it rise but never see any current user...fwiw i have my linksys router step up as follows Forwarding tab > port range 8080-8080, protocol TCP checked, protocol UDP unchecked, computer addy on network is 192.168.1.115, the wap program up and running

my phone homepage http://wap.google.com
gatewayip is my ip
service type is HTTP
port1 8080
e2e port 1 8080
lxlport 1 8080

Posted by: fishfuzz

Quote:

Originally posted by KrispyV710
thank you, how do I know which type to use WAP or HTTP, also what do I do for the other values?...do I just leave them blank...or at the factory default?

Thanks for the help fuzz

Chris

Depends on what server you are using.

If a public proxy, then HTTP

If you are using a public WAP server, then WAP

Then just make sure your ports match up.

Posted by: KrispyV710

I really appreciate the help...but I still get the Error: Request Timed out...

any Ideas....

here are the exact settings feel free to change or try these...thanks

Name: Krispy
Homepage:http://wap.oa.yahoo.com
User ID:
Password:
Gateway IP 1: 069.140.233.206
Gateway 1: 8080
Service Type 1: HTTP
Port 1 8080
E2E Port 1: 8080
LXL Port 1:8080
Domain 1:
Gateway IP 2: 069.140.233.206
Gateway 2: 8080
Service Type 2: HTTP
Port 2: 8080
E2E Port 2:8080
LXL Port 2:8080
Domain 2:
Cache Start-Up On Store

Does anyone see problems with this setup...I am a noob at this so if it is something simple please let me know....this is so frusturating!

thanks for the help.....

Chris

Posted by: fishfuzz

Quote:

Originally posted by KrispyV710

Name: Krispy
Homepage:http://wap.oa.yahoo.com
User ID:
Password:
Gateway IP 1: 069.140.233.206
Gateway 1: 8080
Service Type 1: HTTP
Port 1 8080
E2E Port 1: 8080
LXL Port 1:8080
Domain 1:
Gateway IP 2: 069.140.233.206
Gateway 2: 8080
Service Type 2: HTTP
Port 2: 8080
E2E Port 2:8080
LXL Port 2:8080
Domain 2:
Cache Start-Up On Store

That is a lot of 8080s. *grin*

Try this:

Name: Krispy
Homepage:http://www.ppcportal.us/
User ID:
Password:
Gateway IP 1: 069.140.233.206
Gateway 1:
Service Type 1: HTTP
Port 1 8080
E2E Port 1:
LXL Port 1:
Domain 1:
Gateway IP 2: 069.140.233.206
Gateway 2: 8080
Service Type 2: HTTP
Port 2: 8080
E2E Port 2:
LXL Port 2:
Domain 2:
Cache Start-Up On Store

If that works, then try changing the homepage back to Yahoo.

I've had troubles with the Yahoo connection recently (especially through a public proxy).

Posted by: KrispyV710

Still an error request time out...for the port settings you left blank, I couldn't leave blank on my phone so I inserted 0's in place of the port settings...is that Ok?

Thanks For the help!

Any other suggestions?

Chris

Posted by: fishfuzz

On the blank ones, mine is set to 9201. But it shouldn't matter.

It could also be your proxy server. Google for free proxy servers - there are plenty out there.

Posted by: ivan a rom

hey krispy, what are yoru router settings...mine doenst connect at all but yours says "verizon mobile web blah.."..i have a linksys router if you do would you let me know what settings
you used

Posted by: KrispyV710

well I am trying to use a public proxy server, so my router doens't come into play....I will try a few more public proxys, also do you have to be in a certain network to access internet?

Chris