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Battery life increase using old chargers

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Posted by: Ambull

I read on a Nokia Newsgroup thread that older, slower Nokia chargers (ya know those big bulky ones that take twice as long to charge from) can give about a 10% increase in battery life, per cycle.

Can anyone vouch for this?

Hell that would give me a whole nother 8 hour day of juice...



Posted by: wolwol

depend on the charger mAh most prolly
which charger are you talking about?
the model #
i have few different nokia charger, from the 9210, 3390, etc....



Posted by: Ambull

I don't really remember the specs they were talking about but I can relate to the old bigger, heavier, slower chargers they were referring to.



Posted by: wolwol

Quote:
Originally posted by Ambull
I don't really remember the specs they were talking about but I can relate to the old bigger, heavier, slower chargers they were referring to.
hmm, am not too sure, all my nokia charger seems light to me, the ones that heavy are those which comes with lower end models



Posted by: kuzikan

i think they are reffering to the ACP-7U. it makes sense that the battery might last longer in terms of charge cycles because the slower chagers introduce less heat to the batt and that in time will help. not sure about the charge time as i use both the older slower charger and the newer one that came with my 6620 and don't really see a difference.



Posted by: bobzz

the 6620 you get the white coloured charger kuzikan?
i have a ACP-7A from my old phones, wonder if this could stuff up the nokia 6230 as i was told? if anyone knows



Posted by: kuzikan

no bob, it is the standard fast charger that is black. i can not check it right now but if you need the number let me know



Posted by: bobzz

hrmm so it still uses the black one
but my concern is if the 6230 can use the old black ones? well i know it still charges but i hear the volts are all different and could stuff the 6230 battery up



Posted by: kuzikan

i don't think you can "stuff" a batt. i think the comment is directed at the way and time it takes to charge a batt. it is always best to slow charge a batt as it heats it up less. the cells being recharged generate heat and heat is bad for batt. seeing how the older slow chargers reduce heat because of the amperage and voltage used this might be viewed as better for the batt. but i don't thin either one will help ad more time to you batt. it would require a bigger cell(s) or a different type of material. say a copoly batt for instance.



Posted by: Ambull

Quote:
Originally posted by kuzikan
seeing how the older slow chargers reduce heat because of the amperage and voltage used this might be viewed as better for the batt. but i don't thin either one will help ad more time to you batt. it would require a bigger cell(s) or a different type of material. say a copoly batt for instance.


Good post kuzikan... Makes sense... If what you say is correct than what I read was just a lot of wishful thinking....



Posted by: yxannes

check this page out guys:

www.batteryuniversity.com



Posted by: kuzikan

not really wishful thinking, maybe just an error on the part of the writer?? i mean a lot of people who i talk to have found some new way of doing something that they swear helps them with batt life, reception, making phone lighter. but they are mostly all flukes. maybe the time the guy charged his phone it did add a little more to his batter life, but i have been in this game too long and know too much about science and physics to know that something like that will work. it might save your battery in the long run, less heat, fewer charge cycles all that add up. i have seen some people with 5 year old batt that work for days with out charging. but it's because they never really use the phone. so maybe in those 5 years the phone has been charged what you or i would do in one year.



Posted by: kuzikan

nice find and good reading yxannes



Posted by: cloudstrife1ph

i think it is true....well, because i use slow charger to charge my phone (6230).... it makes my phone to last longer...... than my brother's n-gage that uses fast charges..... both has the same type of battery and i think i use my phone more often.........



Posted by: phatroyale

havent really heard of this happening, but it sounds interesting, but it makes sense that the slow chargers would keep the battery conditioned and topped off longer

not just apparent on cell phone batteries, but i find it worked pretty well on my canon digicam



Posted by: ghaffar23

Think about this: If you have a 3.7V battery hooked up to a 5.7VDC output charger, you're creating unnecessary energy and putting in the battery. Therefore the battery is getting hot for no reason, then you're wearing out the battery.

On the other hand, with a 3.7VDC charger, you're giving the battery a slower, but closer to battery-rated voltage. This doesn't let the battery get hot at all; it's nice and cool. This equals longer battery life.

Motorola messed up with all their chargers. ALL of them are higher than the battery voltage (~5.8VDC). All the Nextel batteries I've had bulged up and couldn't last no more than 5 hours. It was ridiculous! My sister's T720 and my V66 are horrific! I use all the old chargers for my phone.



Posted by: friedbrains

well, if what u guys are saying is true about the lower voltage, then it is not about the older charger then, it is about the lower voltage output of those so called older chargers that will make the battery life last longer...

btw, some of the low end nokia phones are still being sold with these so called older chargers...



Posted by: Telekom

Quote:
Originally posted by friedbrains
well, if what u guys are saying is true about the lower voltage, then it is not about the older charger then, it is about the lower voltage output of those so called older chargers that will make the battery life last longer...

btw, some of the low end nokia phones are still being sold with these so called older chargers...


ACP7 chargers are pretty much sold with all domestic models i.e. models not meant to be used internationally.

ACP12 (quick charger) is often sold with the models that can be used internationally on either 115 or 230 V. ACP12 will not work properly with some early DCT3 phones such as the 5190/6190 models.





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