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A new project on the Prelude..
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Posted by: Sfkn2

Anyone want to guess what that is?

Posted by: PaullyWalnuts

bi-xenon retro-fit?

Posted by: JimmyC

Hm... Some sort of ECE spec Valeo retrofit from a BMW/Audi? Can't tell from the pics but it sure looks good when it's done.

HIDs all the way.

Posted by: Sfkn2

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Originally posted by JimmyC
Hm... Some sort of ECE spec Valeo retrofit from a BMW/Audi? Can't tell from the pics but it sure looks good when it's done.

HIDs all the way.

Look at the other set of headlights (on top of mine).

Posted by: Gatorade

You yanked the projectors from an S2000 headlamp? O_o

Posted by: Sfkn2

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Originally posted by Gatorade
You yanked the projectors from an S2000 headlamp? O_o

Yooou got it!

Posted by: c^2

lol the Mazda3 comes with projectors even in base trim

Posted by: Sfkn2

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Originally posted by c^2
lol the Mazda3 comes with projectors even in base trim

Um.. so? That's like saying that the Prelude has 40hp over the Mazda3.. lol.

Posted by: PaullyWalnuts

so are they bi-xenon, or no?

Posted by: JimmyC

Well just hope you won't have much trouble resealing those headlights. But everything looks good up till now, you gotta upload some night pics when it is done. What made you choose the S2000 projector over the ones from BMW/Audi? Those projectors have the most amazing output (imo) and since you are retrofitting anyway, why not go all the way?

By the way, C^2, your mazda3 projectors don't even come close (by a mile) to those BMW projectors... EVEN IF you had HIDs. Besides, guess you are stuck with halogens for a while, so not much difference having projectors without having HIDs.

Posted by: c^2

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Originally posted by JimmyC
Well just hope you won't have much trouble resealing those headlights. But everything looks good up till now, you gotta upload some night pics when it is done. What made you choose the S2000 projector over the ones from BMW/Audi? Those projectors have the most amazing output (imo) and since you are retrofitting anyway, why not go all the way?

By the way, C^2, your mazda3 projectors don't even come close (by a mile) to those BMW projectors... EVEN IF you had HIDs. Besides, guess you are stuck with halogens for a while, so not much difference having projectors without having HIDs.

I never said they were as good as the BMW projectors. BMW everything is the best.

Posted by: Sfkn2

BMW projectors shoots a wider beam, and is more stable. The S2k projectors flicker more, causing that blue/violet color, and the light is more concentrated. The lights are in. Pics will be uploaded in the morning.

Posted by: edwinx

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Originally posted by PreFknLude_SiR
BMW projectors shoots a wider beam, and is more stable. The S2k projectors flicker more, causing that blue/violet color, and the light is more concentrated. The lights are in. Pics will be uploaded in the morning.

actually. its not the projectors that flicker more, its the stiffer susp of the s2k that cause the flicker.

s2k projectors do have a sharper cutoff, brighter and wider beam that most/all other projectos though.

how does the housing look like?

i've seem some projectors into halgen housings but they look ugly. like its obvioulsy not meant to be.

Posted by: PaullyWalnuts

great, that's all we need. another ricer speeding down the road blinding everyone

Posted by: Sfkn2

Quote:

Originally posted by edwinx
actually. its not the projectors that flicker more, its the stiffer susp of the s2k that cause the flicker.

s2k projectors do have a sharper cutoff, brighter and wider beam that most/all other projectos though.

how does the housing look like?

i've seem some projectors into halgen housings but they look ugly. like its obvioulsy not meant to be.

It's not that the stiff suspension of the s2k that makes the projectors flicker.. lol. If you have ever seen the projectors opened up on both, you will see that the color shield of the s2k is pushed all the way back already, whereas the E46 or Audi's are in the middle. But, the BMW/Audi projectors are easily customizable in terms of adjusting the color shield, and it isn't as easy to do it on the s2k projectors.

I'm still waiting on my pics, but meanwhile, check out www.vuehaongoy.com - he did my retrofits.. he's went thru many sets of HIDs already so he's very knowledgeable.

Posted by: Sfkn2

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Originally posted by PaullyWalnuts
great, that's all we need. another ricer speeding down the road blinding everyone

You're an idiot, I'd stfu if I were you. Do some research before you open your mouth.

Posted by: PaullyWalnuts

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Originally posted by PreFknLude_SiR
You're an idiot, I'd stfu if I were you. Do some research before you open your mouth.

:laughs: I figured that would get your attention. Now for the third time, are they bi-xenon or not?

Posted by: Sfkn2

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Originally posted by PaullyWalnuts
:laughs: I figured that would get your attention. Now for the third time, are they bi-xenon or not?

GrrRrrR.. Do you know what bixenons are? In the pic, there's only one projector.

Posted by: PaullyWalnuts

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Originally posted by PreFknLude_SiR
GrrRrrR.. Do you know what bixenons are? In the pic, there's only one projector.

I don't know too much about S2k headlights, but in the pic it looks like there's an opening for a high-beam and separate low-beam. No harsh feelings.

I want a set of Hella projectors for my Accord

, I just need to find out what kind of relays I need.

Posted by: Sfkn2

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Originally posted by PaullyWalnuts
I don't know too much about S2k headlights, but in the pic it looks like there's an opening for a high-beam and separate low-beam. No harsh feelings. I want a set of Hella projectors for my Accord , I just need to find out what kind of relays I need.

www.vuehaongoy.com
He did my headlights.

Looks like I won't be posting pics until later on tonight. We are about to go for a daytime photoshoot to go with the night time pics from last night.

Posted by: Skylinepilot

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Originally posted by PaullyWalnuts
great, that's all we need. another ricer speeding down the road blinding everyone

Quote:

Originally posted by PaullyWalnuts
:laughs: I figured that would get your attention.

classic

Posted by: Sfkn2

Teaser pic:

Posted by: edwinx

Quote:

Originally posted by PreFknLude_SiR
It's not that the stiff suspension of the s2k that makes the projectors flicker.. lol. If you have ever seen the projectors opened up on both, you will see that the color shield of the s2k is pushed all the way back already, whereas the E46 or Audi's are in the middle. But, the BMW/Audi projectors are easily customizable in terms of adjusting the color shield, and it isn't as easy to do it on the s2k projectors.

I'm still waiting on my pics, but meanwhile, check out www.vuehaongoy.com - he did my retrofits.. he's went thru many sets of HIDs already so he's very knowledgeable.

well..if your post you made it sound like the s2k projectors has more flicker.

the flicker comes from the stiff suspension.

if the car isn't moving or moving on a flat surface, you won't gt any flicker.

the cutoff shield position adds/removes color from the cutoff edge.

you can make your own cutoff sheilf and adjust it to your liking.

I'm in the midst of my own retro fit but looks like its going to be delayed a bit.

Posted by: Sfkn2

For more info:

http://vuehaongoy.com/charlieddeccls2k.html <-- pics of the process.

Posted by: edwinx

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Originally posted by PreFknLude_SiR
For more info:

http://vuehaongoy.com/charlieddeccls2k.html <-- pics of the process.

nice, but I liked your car b4 the angel lights and retro fit.

Posted by: JDMpire

CAn you post a wall shot at night. I would like to see the cut-off of those projectors.

Those are valeo units right? I just got some valeo E-Codes for my car, CANT WAIT to get them in.

Ohh and just how in the h3ll do you find s2k projectors from a wreck!!?!?! you know how rare and wanted an item like those are

Posted by: edwinx

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Originally posted by GtiVR6guy
CAn you post a wall shot at night. I would like to see the cut-off of those projectors.

Those are valeo units right? I just got some valeo E-Codes for my car, CANT WAIT to get them in.

Ohh and just how in the h3ll do you find s2k projectors from a wreck!!?!?! you know how rare and wanted an item like those are

why would the be valeos?

he's using s2k projectors for his particular project.

Posted by: JDMpire

Ohh and please tell me what kind of fog setup do you have.

I have hella projectors with yellow lamin-x film on them and there not nearly as bright and yellow as yours are.

Posted by: JDMpire

Quote:

Originally posted by edwinx
why would the be valeos?

he's using s2k projectors for his particular project.

Car manufacturers don't make there own headlights.

Posted by: edwinx

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Originally posted by GtiVR6guy
Car manufacturers don't make there own headlights.

s2ks are made by koito.

and DOT approved as well.

Posted by: JDMpire

NEver heard of them? The only major players i've heard of are Hella, Valeo, Bosch and Cibie.

Is there an s2k in europe? Thats where the e-code projector he mentioned would of came from, no-matter who made it.

If not than your right about it being a dot spec unit.

Posted by: edwinx

Quote:

Originally posted by GtiVR6guy
NEver heard of them? The only major players i've heard of are Hella, Valeo, Bosch and Cibie.

Is there an s2k in europe? Thats where the e-code projector he mentioned would of came from, no-matter who made it.

If not than your right about it being a dot spec unit.

me neither till i did some research on them.

koito, makes a lot of the japanese projector stuff. at least for honda.

yup but still made by koito.

he only dopped bmw name cause someone asked him about, he's using s2k projectors in his.

check out.
hidplanet.com/forum for a lot more resources (in case you dont' have this forum)

Posted by: JDMpire

thanks for the link. I used to visit hidforum.com a lot but recently I cen't get into there forums, I guess there down or gone...

Posted by: Sfkn2

Hey guys. From what I understand, Koito is the brand of the headlight housing itself. To get technical, the ballasts are made by Mitsubishi (sp?) and the bulbs are 4100k Philips.

But yeah, these projectors are rare as hell...

Posted by: kubus_stroinski

no matter what i say taht PreFknLude_SiR's car looks really sweet. if that was my car id be really proud of it cause its just so clean, not riced up at all. keep it up!

Posted by: JimmyC

hidforum.com has been hacked and everything was gone from their database... it sux, that site contains so much goodies on HIDs...

PreFknLude_SiR: New headlights look very nice. Great retrofit, but I don't think I'll ever get used to seeing a Prelude with "demon eyes" hehe.

By the way, you fogs look so yellow. Doesn't really match your HIDs imo, and I doubt you will ever need your fogs now that you have HIDs. And you should post some more pics against a white wall or something.

Posted by: Skylinepilot

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Originally posted by PreFknLude_SiR
To get technical, the ballasts are made by Mitsubishi (sp?)

Are you sure its not Mitsuboshi? You can find a lot of their products on various Japanese Import cars (and maybe euro or domestic). I kind of laugh because it sounds like an imitation Mitsubishi.

Posted by: Skylinepilot

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Originally posted by JimmyC
By the way, you fogs look so yellow. Doesn't really match your HIDs imo, and I doubt you will ever need your fogs now that you have HIDs. And you should post some more pics against a white wall or something.

Why not need fog lights? Its about the color not the, not how bright they are. Or are you saying his HIDs are so off white he doesn't need fogs?

His HIDs are may be overpowering any effect of the fog lights... Is that what you mean?

Posted by: c^2

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyC

By the way, you fogs look so yellow. Doesn't really match your HIDs imo, and I doubt you will ever need your fogs now that you have HIDs. And you should post some more pics against a white wall or something.

Fogs are supposed to be yellow. They yellower, the better (ala IS300/Altezza fogs).

Posted by: Sfkn2

Quote:

Originally posted by Skylinepilot
Are you sure its not Mitsuboshi? You can find a lot of their products on various Japanese Import cars (and maybe euro or domestic). I kind of laugh because it sounds like an imitation Mitsubishi.

That's why I said (sp?).. I knew I didn't spell it right.

Thanks for answering Jimmy's question for me, C^2. The fogs are supposed to be bright yellow

Posted by: JimmyC

Thanks for clearing up things for me, I didn't know that the more yellow the better for fogs. Is there a reason for that? White light isn't strong enough?

And yeah, my point was that your HIDs are so bright and wide that there's no use for fogs anymore. The other reason, which is just personal preference, is that I don't find bright white + bright yellow attractive. I tend to focus and admire your HIDs, but then my eyes are pulled towards the yellow fogs... hm...

Posted by: JimmyC

Quote:

Originally posted by Skylinepilot
His HIDs are may be overpowering any effect of the fog lights... Is that what you mean?

Exactly.

If I remember, although I am not sure, you don't even have the option for adding fog lights for the S2000 for example.

There's nothing wrong having fogs + HIDs, many cars have that setup by default. The only time you might want to turn on your fogs is when it's really... "foggy"? While running with your DRL on (in Canada that is). But I rather turn on my low beam, which comes back to my previous point, your HIDs are so strong that you won't even see your fogs on, perhaps a slight yellowish color on the ground, while not serving the purpose of illuminating anything more.

So when it's "foggy", you could choose using your HIDs for a better light output instead of fog lights. When you driving normally at night, you should just turn on your HIDs low beam, since turning on your yellow fogs might be unnecessary due to no increase in light output/legal reasons. Therefore I don't see many occasions for you to use your fogs now that you have such good HIDs... perhaps for a photoshoot it's alright.

Posted by: JDMpire

Yellow color cuts thru the fog the best, where a color on the opposite end of the spectrum such as blue would refract off it and make the fog more intense. Also headlights are meant to spread down the road far, fogs arent, they illuminate the immediate road ahead. Running your headlights instead of fogs in foggy weather would only illuminate the fog more.

Personally I HATE drl's and removed them from my last car, luckily my current car doesn't have them.

Posted by: Sfkn2

Quote:

Originally posted by GtiVR6guy
Yellow color cuts thru the fog the best, where a color on the opposite end of the spectrum such as blue would refract off it and make the fog more intense.

Exactly. When it's really foggy (I don't think there's fog here like anywhere else.. can't see more than a car length away), the HIDs just glare into the fog and blinds myself, though, the yellow cuts through it a lot better.

Posted by: JimmyC

HIDs just glare into the fog and blinds yourself??

So what if a car is not equipped with fog lights and no DRL, and cruising under heavy fog condition. But let's assume he has his standard HID lowbeam, would it be better not to turn on any lights and keep driving into the fog? Rather than turning lowbeam?

What I don't understand is how can no lights is better than some light?

Posted by: JDMpire

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyC
HIDs just glare into the fog and blinds yourself??

So what if a car is not equipped with fog lights and no DRL, and cruising under heavy fog condition. But let's assume he has his standard HID lowbeam, would it be better not to turn on any lights and keep driving into the fog? Rather than turning lowbeam?

What I don't understand is how can no lights is better than some light?

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/home.html

http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zeroforum?id=114

Posted by: JimmyC

GtiVR6guy, is there a specific page you wish to point me to go read in order to answer my own question? And not the entire forum?

Posted by: Sfkn2

Posted by: PaullyWalnuts

thats SO hot! GJ, PFLSiR! just 2 questions:

1) do you mind telling us how much you've got invested into your setup?

2) do you think it's worth it to invest that kind of $$ into lighting, as opposed to hp gains?

Posted by: Sfkn2

Quote:

Originally posted by PaullyWalnuts
thats SO hot! GJ, PFLSiR! just 2 questions:

1) do you mind telling us how much you've got invested into your setup?

2) do you think it's worth it to invest that kind of $$ into lighting, as opposed to hp gains?

Are you asking how much money I've spent on my car, or just on the headlights? I think these headlights are hot, so I decided to get it. There's not a lot of hp gains I can get.. Preludes are slow, and always will be.

Posted by: PaullyWalnuts

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Originally posted by PreFknLude_SiR
Are you asking how much money I've spent on my car, or just on the headlights? I think these headlights are hot, so I decided to get it. There's not a lot of hp gains I can get.. Preludes are slow, and always will be.

Im just talking about the HIDs. I think they're badass too, dont get me wrong. ever thought about boosting the lude?

Posted by: Sfkn2

Quote:

Originally posted by PaullyWalnuts
Im just talking about the HIDs. I think they're badass too, dont get me wrong. ever thought about boosting the lude?

These headlights are built by a friend, so he didn't charge me labor. Parts alone cost about $600. And yes, the Lude will be boosted.

Posted by: edwinx

Quote:

Originally posted by PreFknLude_SiR
These headlights are built by a friend, so he didn't charge me labor. Parts alone cost about $600. And yes, the Lude will be boosted.

didn't u have turbo on the prelude b4 or was that another car?

Posted by: EricssonBoi

The headlights look amazing

Posted by: JDMpire

Those are nice PICTURES.... Now could you take some normal shots, mabey with a different exposure. The settings on your camera enance the light, which looks good for a pic, however I would like to see a more realistic shot to judge the amount of ambient like leagage from the retrofit.

All lights leak out a little glare, moreso when you upgrade to a more powerfull source such of light such as higher wattage bulbs or a hid capsule.

I think yours will be ok since you've used projectors, they tend to not "leak" out as much light as opposed to a freeform headlight.

Posted by: wuman82

Hey PreFknLude_SiR, I love your car, and I love the HIDs, they look amazing and just gives the car a whole new look. I was wondering, have your friend done anything on eclipse lighting? Any retro fit kits for an eclipse, I would love to add the HID look to my car. Thanks.

Posted by: bronco

Whats with the new obsession with changing headlights? like really the only time you will actually notice its been modified is in day time when theyre off. And however good that looks its still just a small part of the car. I hate to admit it but its fairly "ricey" even if you didnt intend it to or have valid reasons. Like whats wrong with the stock headlights?

im not flaming you so i hope i dont get flamed as well

Posted by: GotRice

badass headlights! I like it! Great job!

btw awesome pics!

Posted by: JimmyC

Quote:

Originally posted by bronco
Whats with the new obsession with changing headlights? like really the only time you will actually notice its been modified is in day time when theyre off. And however good that looks its still just a small part of the car. I hate to admit it but its fairly "ricey" even if you didnt intend it to or have valid reasons. Like whats wrong with the stock headlights?

im not flaming you so i hope i dont get flamed as well

Have you ever used HIDs headlights in your car before?

Wasting money on bling bling chrome wheels without having any performance gain is "ricey". Spending money upgrading from halogens to HIDs to have 20X better night visibility is not "ricey".

Posted by: [bisheadking]

How much visibility do you need at night in any urban setting?

Any car modding is for show. whether cosmetic or performance, you do it to impress others, and ur a liar if you say otherwise.
if modding ur car for show is rice.
everyone is rice.
live with it.

Posted by: Suzuka Blue

Ah, guess my post was deleted when the board went down.

Anyway, what I was saying was about the yellow fogs. They don't necessarily perform any better than white ones. As a matter of fact, there isn't evidence to suggest that they do. Don't believe me? Check out the Bosch automotive engineering handbook. Sure, your OEM yellow Lexus ones might be better than a white Pep Boys set, but all things being equal, a yellow color doesn't make it any better in foggy conditions than white ones. If anything, it's just how each person perceives and processes yellow light. Although we might THINK that it's better when we see it, it really isn't much of a difference. Just FYI.

Posted by: JDMpire

You've obviously never driven a car with "proper" yellow fogs. They DO make a difference. Why else to most high end cars come equipped with them? Why did all cars in france have to have them, even for headlights.
Why do some racecars that race at night all use yellow lighting. It makes a difference, do some research...

Posted by: JimmyC

So are you telling us that yellow lightning produces more light output (in lumens) compared to white lightning?

I don't see all high end cars coming with yellow fogs. But I can assure you all high end cars come with HIDs, at 4100-4300K output. (White)

Perhaps they make a difference because not of their better light output, but the yellow color itself "attracts" the eye more than pure white. Think tennis balls for example.

And I quote from a random site:
"The "Optic Yellow" color is intended to have the best overall visibility. Some argue that orange is more visible in certain conditions, but it doesn't show up well on TV, so it won't be adopted for many pro events."

Taken from About.com about tennis balls and "yellow"

Quote:

Originally posted by GtiVR6guy
You've obviously never driven a car with "proper" yellow fogs. They DO make a difference. Why else to most high end cars come equipped with them? Why did all cars in france have to have them, even for headlights.
Why do some racecars that race at night all use yellow lighting. It makes a difference, do some research...

Posted by: JimmyC

Furthermore, please read the following link about Fog lights, and about yellow vs white fogs:

Car Talk: Foggy about why some fog lights are yellow?

If you don't have time to click, I'll post some interesting quotes from that page:

Why use fog lights:
"As you probably know, if you project light directly into the fog, it bounces off the fog droplets and reflects in all directions, making it even harder to see. That's why you use your low beams in fog rather than your high beams."

"The reason for this is that fog tends to hover about 12 to 18 inches off the ground. So by projecting light in that fog-free pocket, you can illuminate the road a greater distance from your car and therefore see farther ahead. "

Is Yellow really better:
"So the question becomes, to yellow or not to yellow? There's a lot of debate about this, but the research says that yellow lights are no better than white lights at penetrating fog. The theory bandied about was that yellow light has a longer wavelength and is therefore less likely to be reflected by the fog particles. Turns out, this is complete poppycock."

"Apparently, the fog particles themselves are so big that they reflect all colors of light. Basically, all light bounces off them, so using yellow light instead of white light gives you no advantage."

"Plus, in order to get yellow light, what fog-light manufacturers do is put a yellow lens over a white light. That cuts your light output by 20 percent to 30 percent, which is counterproductive."

So, the fog lights have their advantage only because the light is output near ground height where there are less fog. So less light are rebounded, and the light goes further. Your fog lights will not have a more higher lumens output compared to HIDs. As an alternative, some people have their fogs as HIDs. (Still pure white). That's a bit extreme, but that's only my opinion.

GtiVR6guy, what about you try harder to convince me that yellow fogs are so great? That "everyone in France have to have them"?
I would like to see more of your "research" regarding this topic.

Posted by: Skylinepilot

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyC
"Apparently, the fog particles themselves are so big that they reflect all colors of light. Basically, all light bounces off them, so using yellow light instead of white light gives you no advantage."

I don't want to start an argument because A)Its no big deal and B)I am no science major so I don't have any background to really argue this but:
Fog is white, White reflects all colors, right? It's saying that the size of the particles has to do with color reflected.... What is the relevance of size? I thought it was just simply white reflects all colors and yellow reflects back all colors but yellow (or is it that it only reflects back yellow? I forget).

Instead of expecting an explanation/science lecture, simply finding out if anyone agrees or disagrees with the quotes from JimmyC's discovered page would satisfy my curiousity.

Posted by: Suzuka Blue

Thank you, JimmyC.

Like I said in my post, there isn't any evidence to suggest yellow is better than white. Most high end cars don't come with yellow fogs anymore, that seems to be more a thing of the past nowadays. And, yes, I have driven cars with proper yellow fogs, VR6guy. I'm not one to randomly quote stuff that I've read or heard but have actually experienced. Anyway, if you think yellow fogs work for you, then great. All I'm saying is that no one should say that it's a definite that they're any better than white ones.

Posted by: JimmyC

SkylinePilot, I didn't quite understand what you were trying to say in your previous post, so I couldn't comment on it, heh. Something like "...yellow reflects back all colors but yellow (or is it that it only reflects back yellow? I forget).
" sounds kinda confusing.

But yes, it is a small deal, but some people is trying to make a big deal out of it, stating how great fogs are, etc... I am not trying to be "anti-fog" or something, but if someone *cough* GtiVR6guy *cough* wish to tell us how great yellow fogs are, then he should back it up right?

Not because you see some racecars using yellow fogs on TV means they are great, and I doubt every car in France are using yellow fogs...

I'm not majoring in Science neither, in fact, it was just a random link I clicked when I search on Yahoo regarding why fogs are yellow. Tonight I tried searching "why fog lights are yellow" on Google and many links I have read come up to the same idea: That no evidence shows that yellow fogs are actually better.

First link from Google

Another link I have read

And Suzuka Blue, I agree with you, fogs (especially yellow) are a thing from the past... Literally tons of high end cars don't even come with fogs standard, but try getting one without HIDs...

Posted by: JDMpire

Easy now, not trying to cause a fight or anything

Of the viehcles IV'E DRIVEN!! the ones with yellow fogs seemed to work a little better than the ones with clear bulbs. IN MY EYES. It only purely personal preference.

Oh thanks for those links, I did a quick google search before i posted before but couldn't find anything relavent.

BTW: The information the made ME believe that the yellow fogs were better were from numerous dissussions in the lighting forums over at vwvortex.com.

Me, on MY car I have the yellow fogs. WHY, because I got a deal on yellow LAMIN-X for almost nothing. I only really got it to protect the fog assembly itself. On the miata is sits very low to the ground and I didn't want a rock or something to hit it and shatter the glass.

Posted by: Skylinepilot

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyC
SkylinePilot, I didn't quite understand what you were trying to say in your previous post, so I couldn't comment on it, heh. Something like "...yellow reflects back all colors but yellow (or is it that it only reflects back yellow? I forget).
" sounds kinda confusing.

Don't worry about it... I think a college professor would be the best person to ask and its not like they spend their time sitting on message boards waiting for these questions to come up

Posted by: JimmyC

GtiVR6guy, if you can't search anything relevant on Google regarding why yellow fogs are better than white fogs, perhaps it's because yellow fogs simply aren't much better after all??

By the way, concerning your lamin-X, it's some sort of cover to protect (or change the color) of your fogs right? Something similar to the ones found at http://lamin-x.com/ ?

If you really read my links, and I quote something you might be interested at:

"The second flaw is that in order to get yellow light in the first place you need a filter. Note that yellow fog lights were in use when the only available headlights were incandescent lamps. If you place a filter over a white headlight, you get less transmitted light, and there goes your increased penetration down the drain."

I guess that's exactly what you did, adding a yellow filter (lamin-X) to your fogs, and you state that in YOUR eyes from YOUR car, YOU get better visibility??

Theoretically it should be the opposite, I don't know what you are seeing on the road, but I am not convinced on anything you have said...

Posted by: JDMpire

The main reason for getting the lamin-x is to protect the glass in my fogs lights. There known in the miata community to be prone to breaking, mainly due to sitting so low to the ground and the glass in them is a little on the thin side.

I will be getting more of it for the headlights, but clear of course. My new headlights are a 4" low beam globe, 4" high beam globe, and a 2" turn signal globe. All of them will eventually be getting the lamin-x treatment since there all made of glass.

Posted by: Devilz

I WANT UR CAR!

Posted by: Sfkn2

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too lazy to post pics.. just check that out.

Posted by: Sfkn2

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Originally posted by Devilz
I WANT UR CAR!

I told you that you can have it.. just come pick it up in San Francisco.

Posted by: Devilz

Quote:

Originally posted by PreFknLude_SiR
I told you that you can have it.. just come pick it up in San Francisco.

i thought ur only giveing me the muffler... but now the whole car!?!? im so there!