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Posted by: Telekom

I have a mini-FAQ that I just threw together on T9 text as implemented with Nokia. Here's what I have. Could folks comment as to whether these instructions work for all Nokia's with T9 text input or if it's just for certain models such as the 5190 or 3390? Here's what I've got:

Nokia T9 predictive text hints

T9 predictive text will help you compose text quicker with much less effort. Nokia has implemented T9 into many of its late model handsets.

The following are some hints to help you use T9 easily.

1. When composing a message just type the letters as they normally would be in a word. Once you have completed the word if that’s the only “usual” spelling of the word the word will be underlined. If there are other words that could use that key press combination press the * key and it will cycle through words that are in the T9 dictionary. If T9 cannot find the word the word will have a ? after it with the word spell if there are no other options. Press spell and it will bring you to a screen where you can multitap the word. After you spell the word the word will now be part of the T9 dictionary.

2. To type a period just press the 1 key. After you type the period the next letter you
type will be upper case to the next sentence. If you type a letter then 1 immediately followed by any letter the punctuation will become an apostrophe. e. g. to type he’s you would key 4417. To type numbers hold down the corresponding key about three seconds e.g. to type the words ‘round 1’ you would key 76863(space)1(hold) = round 1. To type round 10 you would key 768631(hold)0(hold.)

To type other punctuation after a word type the word then press 1 immediately followed by the * key. Keep pressing the * key and it will cycle between punctuation symbols (?!-@ etc.)

3. To insert numbers hold down the # key and your display will have 123 at the top. If you are in predictive text mode you will see ==> ABC if you are in numeric mode you will see ===> 123.

4. To use predictive text you can also use menu options such as Spell mode, Insert number, Insert symbol etc.

*Tip for later model Nokia handsets:

If you press the * key to bring up the choice of symbols you can change the line of symbols you're on by using the 2, 4, 6 or 8 keys like a "joy stick." e.g. if you're on the top line of symbols press the 8 key and you'll move down a line. Press the 6 key and you'll move one symbol to the right. Press the 4 key to move left one character. Press the 2 key and you'll move up one row.

Posted by: ccsccs7

Works with 8290.

Posted by: Avironeur

Thanks for the tips. Nokia still has by far and away the easiest implementation of t9 I have seen yet. SMS from the late model Nokia phones is extremely efficient and easy to do......Motorola is a nightmare in comparison both due to menu structure and iTap. I like some Moto phones for other reasons but for anyone who does a lot of SMS a Nokia phone if available should def. be a consideration.

Posted by: jondon

Quote:

Originally posted by littlefuzzbear

3. To insert numbers hold down the # key and your display will have 123 at the top. If you are in predictive text mode you will see ==> ABC if you are in numeric mode you will see ===> 123.

hey.. Something I didn't know! Cool tip! *thumbs up*

Posted by: MitzEclipse

Quote:

Originally posted by Avironeur
Thanks for the tips. Nokia still has by far and away the easiest implementation of t9 I have seen yet. SMS from the late model Nokia phones is extremely efficient and easy to do......Motorola is a nightmare in comparison both due to menu structure and iTap. I like some Moto phones for other reasons but for anyone who does a lot of SMS a Nokia phone if available should def. be a consideration.

Agreed. Nokia has the best SMS implementation out there. For one, I like the "0" key to be the space bar. On Ericsson's and Mot's they're in different locations.

Secondly, the speed is perfect. On Ericssons, especially the T68m and T39m, I have to wait for the phone to 'catch up' to my input. Very annoying.

Posted by: angrychair

works for the 3390, and this by far 10 times better than iTAP, the only thing i like about iTAP over t9 on a nokia is that a v60g has iTAP on gprs when using aim, where as i hear that the 8390 and 6590 don't have it.

Posted by: Telekom

Quote:

Originally posted by angrychair
works for the 3390, and this by far 10 times better than iTAP, the only thing i like about iTAP over t9 on a nokia is that a v60g has iTAP on gprs when using aim, where as i hear that the 8390 and 6590 don't have it.

Err, yeah

"Could folks comment as to whether these instructions work for all Nokia's with T9 text input or if it's just for certain models such as the 5190 or 3390?"

Posted by: angrychair

Quote:

Originally posted by littlefuzzbear
Err, yeah

"Could folks comment as to whether these instructions work for all Nokia's with T9 text input or if it's just for certain models such as the 5190 or 3390?"

just trying to help out. ill never do it again...btw it works with the 3360 and the 8260 i believe.

Posted by: Phantasma

Quote:

Originally posted by littlefuzzbear
3. To insert numbers hold down the # key and your display will have 123 at the top. If you are in predictive text mode you will see ==> ABC if you are in numeric mode you will see ===> 123

This also works if you hold down the desired number. its faster in case u only want one or two numbers in there (for long strings like phone numbers and such is better to hold down the # and do them all at once)

eg: to type round 1, you would press 76863 (0 for space) and hold down the 1 for 3secs

Posted by: angrychair

Quote:

Originally posted by Phantasma
This also works if you hold down the desired number. its faster in case u only want one or two numbers in there (for long strings like phone numbers and such is better to hold down the # and do them all at once)

eg: to type round 1, you would press 76863 (0 for space) and hold down the 1 for 3secs

awesome

Posted by: ccsccs7

When inserting a symbol on my 8290, I can jump down a row by pressing #. This selects the next charachter down, and when at the bottom, jumps to the characther all the way at the top.

This is not limited to predictive text input, though.

Posted by: Telekom

This will not work with all Nokia handsets, but I know it works with the Nokia 6310i and 6340. It may work with the 6360 as well.

If you are composing a message and you have to hold the * key for symbols you can use the 2, 4, 6 or 8 keys like a "joy stick" and quickly access the symbol you're looking for. For example you are in the selection of symbols. The default is to put you on the period symbol. If you press the 6 key the cursor will move towards the right. If you press the 8 key your cursor will move down a row. If you press the 4 key your cursor will move left and if you press the 2 key your cursor will move up a row.

Posted by: Darla

*Another tip*
This works on my 7210 but I'm not sure about other Nokia's If you are typing a word such as "home" more than likely the first word that will appear will be "good". If you press the * key all other matches will come up for that sequence of numbers. I find that very helpful especially when I'm trying to text my hubby that I'll be home soon. He still gets a kick about the good part though!!

Posted by: pike

Quote:

Originally posted by ccsccs7
When inserting a symbol on my 8290, I can jump down a row by pressing #. This selects the next charachter down, and when at the bottom, jumps to the characther all the way at the top.

This is not limited to predictive text input, though.

On my 6590, I can navigate the symbols by using the 2, 4, 6 and 8 buttons. MUCH easier and quicker than using the up and down buttons.

-Mike

Posted by: ccsccs7

On the 6590, in addition to using the 2,4,6, and 8 buttons to navigate through symbols, 5 can be used to choose the selection.

Posted by: zAm0lx1s

Funny how most other posts "add" something that he already covered

. Hopefully, it won't be the case with this one.

Firstly, you are not limited to the English language. Most phones come with several dictionaries which you can change before or while you are writing your message. If the language you want is not in the phone, you can add it by going to a technician. Here in Canada Nokia tech support doesn't seem to be aware that you can do that, but I've done it with my phone in Eastern Europe.

Secondly, a dot in between two words won't necessarily become an apostrophe, sometimes it can become a dash (esp. in other languages where apostrophe is not that common). The substitution is context aware, but it doesn't always do it right. Also, don't forget that if you have a notebook/computer with infrared, you can connect the phone and send SMSs through the Nokia suite phone editor. If you're a touch typist, it's not hard to be faster than the PKI.

On 7210 (and others sharing the same button layout) you can start writing an SMS by pressing the middle left button - on the 7210 is up oblique). (Pressing the middle right button will take you to the calendar, while pressing up and down will take you to the phone book, but you knew that already, right?)

Posted by: telequao

ya i found that funny that everybody kept repeating the same thing

anyways just about all of this I found out by toying around w/ my 3595 the first few days when I got it....so yes all of this works with the 3595

Posted by: zadigre

I have a question about T9 on my Nokia 7210...

When I write some text in french on my phone, what is the fastest way to write words like "j'aime" or "m'aime" ?

For "j'aime", 5* (* to change L to J) ... I press 1 and as soon as I press 2 (for "a"), the dot change to a dash...

For "M'aime", I press 6 and when I press 1 to get ' , M change to N...

Even with those "problems", predictive text input on Nokia phones is way better then what I got on my Motorola P280

Posted by: Telekom

Quote:

Originally posted by zadigre
I have a question about T9 on my Nokia 7210...

When I write some text in french on my phone, what is the fastest way to write words like "j'aime" or "m'aime" ?

For "j'aime", 5* (* to change L to J) ... I press 1 and as soon as I press 2 (for "a"), the dot change to a dash...

For "M'aime", I press 6 and when I press 1 to get ' , M change to N...

Even with those "problems", predictive text input on Nokia phones is way better then what I got on my Motorola P280

Can't you just type 51263 for j'aime and 61263 for m'aime? If the word doesn't immediately show can't you press the * to cycle through other words that use that key combination?

Posted by: zadigre

no I can not do this because * only change what is after the apostrophe... I have to go back to change the first letter.

Quote:

Originally posted by littlefuzzbear
Can't you just type 51263 for j'aime and 61263 for m'aime? If the word doesn't immediately show can't you press the * to cycle through other words that use that key combination?

Posted by: MikeyLikesIt

Great tips! Works flawlessly on Nokia 3585i.

Sidenote: I've had a Motorola i1000plus (Nextel) for years now and I am blown away at the differences in T9! If I started to type in a word and it wasn't the "first" choice in the dictionary, i had no means of selecting other words - I had to continously press the back key to erase and then switch out of predictive text mode and enter it in manually... The time i wasted wasn't even worth using T9 on my i1000plus!

THANKS AGAIN!

Posted by: marty2345uk

Quote:

Originally posted by telequao
ya i found that funny that everybody kept repeating the same thing

anyways just about all of this I found out by toying around w/ my 3595 the first few days when I got it....so yes all of this works with the 3595

What you have to do is press 5, then 1 for the apostrophe, THEN the * key to change it to j' and then you can write the rest of the word as normal. Thats the quickest way. :-)

Posted by: jacksmith

Obviously all this also works with the 6600. but for some reason, when i want to type "in" (46), it gives me "io" instead of "in". how can i remove "io" from the dictionary?

Posted by: Telekom

Quote:

Originally posted by jacksmith
Obviously all this also works with the 6600. but for some reason, when i want to type "in" (46), it gives me "io" instead of "in". how can i remove "io" from the dictionary?

Just press the * key and the correct word will show.

Posted by: jacksmith

i know that, but since i use the word "in" quite often, and the word "io" never, i want to erase the word from the dictionary so i don't have to press * every time i want to type "in".

Posted by: ziek

Nokia has the best SMS implementation out there. For one, I like the "0" key to be the space bar

Posted by: WhiteThug

I love using T9 on my nokia 6620. It makes it quick for TM's when you are really jammed for time, like when your at work and have to pound one out before your boss sees.

Posted by: ODST_Shan

Is it possible to add words to the dictionary? It doesn't seem to be anywhere in the manual so I'm guessing not, but that would be a great feature.

Posted by: Stuart P

is there anyway to start a new line when writing a txt without pressing space loads of times to get to the end of the current line? eg

line 1,
line 2

Posted by: dlupien

works for my 3220

Posted by: Irish-Kal-El

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telekom

After you type the period the next letter you type will be upper case to the next sentence. If you type a letter then 1 immediately followed by any letter the punctuation will become an apostrophe. e. g. to type he’s you would key 4417.

heh... i didnt know that.. id always go searching for the damn apostrophe... thanx for that.. works with the n70 for sure!!

btw.. its 4317... not 4417

Posted by: Irish-Kal-El

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart P

is there anyway to start a new line when writing a txt without pressing space loads of times to get to the end of the current line? eg

line 1,
line 2

yes there is... in some nokia phones, if u press 0 continously, u get space, then zero, then a little symbol like a mirrored L and an arrow at the bottom of the L...

but with the T9, if u press * key (or choose insert symbol), it should be the last symbol...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODST_Shan

Is it possible to add words to the dictionary? It doesn't seem to be anywhere in the manual so I'm guessing not, but that would be a great feature.

yes it is possible, i believe its been covered but here we go anyway...

say u want to type in "cuz" (shorthand/slang to "because") and u press 289... and u press star but u only get buy, btw, buz, aux, etc... just as the dictionary gets to the last word it should show u an option "Spell" that way u can select and type in the word u want, in this case "cuz".. that way every time u press 289, u can press * to find "cuz"...

hope thats clear enought.. iv been known to explain with too much detail at times...

Posted by: kbfiji

My Nokia does not remember words that I save into the dictionary. My older Nokia's had no problem remembering words I taught it, but my last two have not (newest is Nokia 6280). What is going wrong?

I do the usual - cycle through the word suggestings with my star key until it comes up "spell" then I spell the new word and "save". It remembers the new word again during that particular sms message, but on the next new sms it has forgotten the new word again. It's driving me crazy!!!

Please help! (yes Dictionary is "on")

Posted by: tantalus1662

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbfiji

My Nokia does not remember words that I save into the dictionary. My older Nokia's had no problem remembering words I taught it, but my last two have not (newest is Nokia 6280). What is going wrong?

I do the usual - cycle through the word suggestings with my star key until it comes up "spell" then I spell the new word and "save". It remembers the new word again during that particular sms message, but on the next new sms it has forgotten the new word again. It's driving me crazy!!!

Please help! (yes Dictionary is "on")

I have the same problem with my 6280 so interested in any replies.

Posted by: ants337

Ok so my T9 dictionary on my N73 works awesome. But 1 thing, is there a way to change the order of words that the T9 dictionary predicts?

For instance, I usually type in 2255 and "Call" is the first word that comes up because its the most common. but 1 time I typed in 2255 and because I wanted "BBJK" to come up, I "spelled" it out and put it in the dictionary of the T9 so it will be a part of the dictionary.
(BBJK is a common abbreviation i use for something)

Obviously I use the word "Call" more often but everytime I type in 2255, "BBJK" comes up first. I wanted to know if it's possible to change the order, so "Call" comes up as the first word and "BBJK", comes up as the second option?

I have done this for many words so I really need help with this feature please!

thanks!

Posted by: bobolito

I don't think there's any way to do that. I saved my user name in the T9 dictionary and every time I type it I always get another word and have to always press * to change it to the next word which is my user name. That's one thing T9 really lacks.

Posted by: gonzalingui

Another tip: Well I don't know if it's a T9's tip, but I think someone will find it useful in this topic. If you write messages in spanish, or other language using letters like á é í ó ú, the message will "eat" a lot more characters and the phone will send that message divided in two or three messages. So you provider will charge you for that number of messages. To avoid this without having to press * until you select the same word without the accent, go to Messaging > Message Settings > Text Messages > Character support and select Reduced. That way the phone will show you the letters but when you send the message, it'll convert the characters. For instance, "¿Cómo estás?" will be converted to "¿Como estas?".

Some comments on T9

I've read in my 6131 User Guide, that the T9 system remembers which words you use more than other words. I think that's not true. There are some words that I use in most of my messages, and they haven't "ranked up" to the first or second choice when pressing *

Other issue is when you are about to write a word after a period (.) the next character will be upper case. That's fine. But if you have to spell that word, the spell "text input" will have the first letter in upper case (at least you change it). The issue with this is that if you want to use that added word in another message where you're not after a period (.), the word will still have it's first character upper case.

Posted by: catkins

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish-Kal-El

Fastest (?) way is:

yes it is possible, i believe its been covered but here we go anyway...

say u want to type in "cuz" (shorthand/slang to "because") and u press 289... and u press star but u only get buy, btw, buz, aux, etc... just as the dictionary gets to the last word it should show u an option "Spell" that way u can select and type in the word u want, in this case "cuz".. that way every time u press 289, u can press * to find "cuz"...

hope thats clear enought.. iv been known to explain with too much detail at times...

[/QUOTE]

press # twice to get out of predictive
Press * twice to get list of smileys
Press up arrow to go to list of character symbols with "carriage return" symbol selected
Click Use

Regards enhancement requests I'd like to be able to a) delete words from the dictionary and b) for words on the * key to be ordered with most often used words first.

Posted by: catkins

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish-Kal-El

Fastest (?) way is:

press # twice to get out of predictive
Press * twice to get list of smileys
Press up arrow to go to list of character symbols with "carriage return" symbol selected
Click Use

Regards enhancement requests I'd like a) to be able to delete words from the dictionary and b) for words on the * key to be ordered with most often used words first.

Posted by: catkins

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telekom

2. To type a period just press the 1 key. After you type the period the next letter you
type will be upper case to the next sentence. If you type a letter then 1 immediately followed by any letter the punctuation will become an apostrophe. e. g. to type he’s you would key 4417. To type numbers hold down the corresponding key about three seconds e.g. to type the words ‘round 1’ you would key 76863(space)1(hold) = round 1. To type round 10 you would key 768631(hold)0(hold.)

To type other punctuation after a word type the word then press 1 immediately followed by the * key. Keep pressing the * key and it will cycle between punctuation symbols (?!-@ etc.)

It's a bit different on a 3110c with firmware RM-237, a S40 3rd Edition phone. After entering the period (the 1 key which displays a period):

The * key can be used to cycle the . through , - ? ! ' @ : ; / and 1. After 1 is displayed the phone offers Symbol and the central navigation key can be used to access all the special characters and graphical smileys -- the same screens you can get in non-predictive mode when you press the * key.
If the next key is 1 the phone displays :) and the * key can be used to cycle through "words" of two special characters. Using the standard dictionary this is :( ;) (:* .. ., .- .? .! .' .@ .: .; :- ;- .; ./ .1 After .1 is displayed the phone offers Spell. You can save a "word" of two special characters and it will be shown in the list next time.
- If the next key is 1 the phone displays :-) and the * key can be used to cycle through "words" of three special characters. Using the standard dictionary this is :-( ;-) :-* ... :). :), :)- :)? :)! :)' :)@ :): :); :)/ :)1 :)£. After :)£ is displayed the phone offers Spell. You can save a "word" of three special characters and it will be shown in the list next time.
- Else if the next key is 2 through 9 the phone accepts whatever "word" of two special characters was last displayed and starts on the next word. If the "word" of two special characters represents a smiley it is converted to a graphical smiley when a space character is entered.
- Else if the next key is space and the "word" of two special characters represents a smiley then the smiley is converted to a graphical smiley
Else if the next key is 2 through 9 the phone displays a "word" from the dictionary composed of one of the 1 key's characters (. , ' ? ! " 1) followed by one of the 2 through 9 key's characters. Using the standard dictionary this is mostly just . followed by one of the things shown on the key (for example 2 a b c) but also includes 'd /g 'l 'm 's 'r 1s 't 'v. What are 'r /g and 1s for?
- If the next key is 1 or space the the phone accepts whatever "word" of one special character and one normal character was last displayed and starts on the next word.
- Else if the next key is 2 through 9 the phone gets way too clever for me.

Simple innit?

Posted by: catkins

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telekom

... Could folks comment as to whether these instructions work for all Nokia's with T9 text input or if it's just for certain models such as the 5190 or 3390?

Everything you describe works on my 3110c with firmware RM-237, a S40 3rd Edition phone.

It also helps you enter words made up of two words in the dictionary. For example, to enter hotdog:

468
* as required to cycle through words to hot
click the right navigation key to finish the current word without moving the cursor
364
* as required to cycle through words to dog

Posted by: Peter Bhambra

Hi,

I have Nokia 3220 phone, this is a old phone and I just activated the voice mail. When I press the "1" number key it ask me for mailbox number, but after entering the number which is provided to me by Fido, it come up with msg. "Request not completed".

Can anyone help me, why I am getting this msg.?

Peter Bhambra

Posted by: sophil

hi,
thanks for T9 useing tips.thanks againe.........(sopnil from gsm forum)

Posted by: miekk

I never realized tip 3 before cheers

Posted by: Chaos Inc.

Zero is always space, double pressing it makes it 0 zero lol

Posted by: bimmerz_vn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telekom

So great !! thank you ! there's wat i need !

Posted by: misfitpierce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avironeur

Thanks for the tips. Nokia still has by far and away the easiest implementation of t9 I have seen yet. SMS from the late model Nokia phones is extremely efficient and easy to do......Motorola is a nightmare in comparison both due to menu structure and iTap. I like some Moto phones for other reasons but for anyone who does a lot of SMS a Nokia phone if available should def. be a consideration.

Indeed, Nokia is so efficient I enjoy using Nokia t9 more than some full qwerty keyboard phones I have... I also agree with you on the Moto part. I do enjoy some good Moto phones such as the Zine ZN5 and such but iTap is a nightmare... The dictionary on most is awful and does not remember words well and it slows down and you have to push left and right to try and get words as you spell. Nokia is not that way... Nokia T9 works like a dream. You type and if not there you hit spell and bam it remembers it forever. It's so good that if you come from another awful phone OS like moto iTap you'll think its a miracle blessing. I love Nokia too much lol.