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buying treo 650 can i do this verizon/ sprint thing and then switch back
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Posted by: fatherwayne

my question is simply if i buy a treo 650 make the changes to make it a verizon phone. when there is a verizon flash available can it be flashed to become a verizon treo 650. i guess it wouldn't matter if all the reports are true but mms working is a neccessity on a 600.00 device. if someone is knowledgeable in this area please let me know.

Wayne

Posted by: stuntman

I'm not an expert but getting a 650 from sprint and getting to work with verizon is dam near impossible without coercing both sides, especially sprint. Even if you did get it to work, the functionality would not be the same as others have attested to.

Posted by: fatherwayne

Quote:

Originally posted by stuntman
I'm not an expert but getting a 650 from sprint and getting to work with verizon is dam near impossible without coercing both sides, especially sprint. Even if you did get it to work, the functionality would not be the same as others have attested to.

actually they are having very much success getting everything to work except for the mms features. even the 1x data is working search this forum or visit treo central.com if your interested. thanks for the reply anyway. merry christmas

Posted by: fatherwayne

bump

Posted by: martinreu

what does "bump" mean?

Posted by: fatherwayne

Quote:

Originally posted by martinreu
what does "bump" mean?

bump is something people do when they post a question on a forum and it has fallen to far down on the list to be noticed. meaning they possibly posted just before some big news breaks and everybodys talking about it. the forums are organized by most recent post (depending on how you get to the threads the post thread could get lost). so people bump their threads to the top of the list. its like a hey look at me!!!!!!

--fatherwayne

Posted by: SheAteMySIMCard

This is not feasible. Possible, but not feasible and with a high probablity of getting, "caught up". Holla.

Posted by: SheAteMySIMCard

You guys crack me up

Posted by: g.711

These guys got it working...
Verizonized

Activating the 650 on Verizon

Here are the original instructions for programming the 600 they will work on the 650 also. However, jonf, you are correct. I tested the TX and RX for USB and They are different. Unfortunatley, the USB adapter end that goies into the 650 only has pin connections for the 4 usb wires and 1 for the hotsyn button. That leaves 9 more pins for other stuff that arn't even connected. So sacraficing a 650 cable would even work. SOOOO, I took a serial cable and stripped the wires down and start "poking" at the connector on the bottom of the 650 trying to get it to connect. No luck. So until we can find out exactly wich pins are the serial connections (and if it needs more that just TX, RX and GRN - like does it need handshaking, etc.) I cant reprogram this thing. I only have 15 days to return it too.

Required Hardware:
1. Sprint Treo 650
2. Serial Connection Cable (THORN IN MY SPINE!!!)

Required Software:
1. Qualcomm PST (Product Support Tool). You may have to search around for this, but it was last seen here: http://upstfiles.web1000.com/QPST2_7.zip
Its a really slow download.
2. Verizon PRL file (Primary Roaming List)

Required Information:
1. Your TREO 650 MSL (Master Subsidy Lock). Every TREO 650 is assigned a unique 6-digit MSL code.
You must either use special software (BitPIM or UniCDMA) or convince someone at Sprint to give it to you. There were some tricks to doing that somewhere on this forum. There were a few people out there willing to obtain your MSL for a fee ranging anywhere from $5 to $50, but it seems that Sprint somehow put an end to that.

Step 1: Changing Sprint's TREO 650 PRL, MSL and Phone Number.

1. Install PST Software
2. Connect TREO 650 using the Serial Cable. ?????????????????????UGH! NO USB SUPPORT SO FAR!
3. Turn on the Treo and enter the phone mode
4. Punch ##3424 followed by dial button.
You should see the message "Passthrough Enabled"
5. Launch the "Service Programming" program
(Start -> Programs -> Qualcomm PST -> Service Programming).
6. Select your phone "Surf" in the Phone Selection dialog box and click OK.
7. Select the "Settings" tab (if not already there).
8. Press "Read from Phone"
9. At the "Enter Service Programming" dialog box, enter the phone's original MSL code.
10. After reading all information, change Service Programming to 000000.
11. Click the CDMA Tab
12. Change the MCC box to 000 (3 zeros) (Write down ALL your original values for possible future use)
13. Change the 11_12 box to 00 (2 zeros)
14. Change the "directory" and "IMSI_S" boxes to your 10 digit Verizon phone number (no dases).
15. Click Roam Tab, and click the "Browse" button.
16. Locate and select the Verizon PRL file.
17. Click the "Write To Phone" button. Wait about 1 minute.
18. Disconnect the Treo

Step 2: Activating your Phone

1. Go to http://www.verizonwireless.com
2. Login to your account and register your TREO 650 ESN.
3. Dial 611 and you should get a Verizon message.
4. You can now dial *228 to update your PRL and Phone setting.
5. If you have "Roaming" message on phone screen, punch ##3825 or ##727 or ##2362 the Dial. This is because the TREO 600 sometimes works as PCS only or CDMA only. 3825 means "Dual", 727 means "PCS (1900Mhz)", and 2362 means "CDMA (800Mhz)".
You can check which Band is being used by punching ##33284.

Step 3: Activating Express Network Data
Note: There are 2 separate methods of doing this. Find which one works for you.
1. Go into Network Preferences --> menu key --> Options --> View Log
2. Type in: "pdpset 1" and hit the enter key...then hit done
3. Use your new MSL code if asked.
Method 1:
4. Create a new service connection...
Hit menu, select New, and fill in:
Service: Express Network
Connection: Virtual Modem
User Name: your10digitphonenum@vzw3g.com
Password: vzw
Phone: #777 (make sure you include the "#" sign)
6. Click on [Details], Click on [Advanced], Click on [Script]
Enter the following script:
Send: at$qcmdr=3
Send CR:
Send: at$qcqnc=0
Send CR:
End:
7. Click [OK], then [OK]
8. Click on Connect and watch your tower icon change to data mode

Method 2: 4. Create a new service connection...
5. Hit menu, select New, and fill in:
Service: Express Network
Connection: High Speed Wireless
User Name: your10digitphonenum@vzw3g.com
Password: vzw
6. Click on Details, click off Mobile IP, then OK
7. Click on Connect and watch your tower icon change to data mode

Alternative Step 3: Activating QNC Data
(Doing this may cause EN to no longer work. This problem may have been fixed somewhere else in this thread. If you find the fix, PM me and I will update it here)

1. Preferences --> Network
menu --> New
Service: QNC
Connection: Virtual Modem
User Name: qnc
Password: qnc
Phone: #777
2. Details... --> Advanced... --> Script...
Send: at$qcmdr=2
Send CR:
Send at$qcqnc=1
Send CR:
End:
OK --> OK --> Connect

Step 4: Fixing Blazer

Go into phone mode.
Enter ##3282 --> DIAL -->
Select [menu] --> Browser --> [Modify]
Clear both Primary and Secondary NGG's and their ports.
Save and browse.

Changing Sprint logo
If you want to change "Sprint" logo on left top side of phone screen, you must edit the banner of TREO internal Modem.
1. Using the "Software Download" feature of Qualcomm PST, you can download all NV Data.
2. Edit the Sprint Banner with a hex editor (like QEdit),
3. Restore again with the modified file to change the logo.
4. For complete details, read further into this thread.

Changing the Phone Startup Screen:
See the attached file below. This will also upgrade your dial pad. I made the splash screen, others made the dial pad.

For detailed programming instructions try here.

Here's a quick tip for updating the PRL: *228 itself will simply connect to the carrier that it's already set to. However, *22801 and *22802 will link to the A and B channels respectively (they're 800Mhz CDMA channels), while *22803 through *22805 (or even 06, etc.. I don't know) link to the 1900 Mhz PCS channels. In New York City, Verizon is the B channel, so that once Verizon Wireless knew my ESN, I could dial *22802 and update the PRL that way.

Posted by: kalex

did mine and 2 others in brooklyn. I had my phone running on verizon for over 2 weeks and everything except MMS works great. I'm planning to start playing with custom roms probably next week. 100% success rate in terms of doing the conversion and having it activated on Verizon. neither of the 3 phones that i have done had any problems with the Verizon CS. takes about 20 minutes per fone plus calling verizon. And YES you can revert back to sprint. as long as you have the MSL code and Sprint PRL file.

Most important thing is the need for the special serial cable in order to get the MSL code. I have the cable in NYC area so if anybody is interested email me

Alex

Posted by: fatherwayne

where did you all get your treos w/o sprint activation. also how would I save the above mentioned code and prl file

thanks

Posted by: tsunami25

i'd love to get this working too. where can i buy a sprint treo 650? who has a cable i can borrow in NYC?

Posted by: aadilmumin1

i need help just startin out learnin how to flash can someone help me out

Posted by: randomwit

Quote:

Originally Posted by aadilmumin1

i need help just startin out learnin how to flash can someone help me out

yes-
your ability to read and click on the "SEARCH" button will be your first instructors...

enjoy.

Posted by: aadilmumin1

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