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Cingular Razr V3 Firmware HERE! - R374_G_0E.40.57R
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Posted by: chopsu3i

Here is a Cingular Razr V3 Monster pack which includes the cingular flash and flex. I dont take any credit for this as i didnt get it. The full flash.flex name is:
R374_G_0E.40.57R_PDS001_LP0003_DRM0001_JPJAVA_G_0E _V3_06_03R_GSMV3xxCIN01NA065_1FF.shx. my host is goin down Jan 7th so get it while its hot and somoene mirror it

Props to "TheYoshi" for this file. I checked it with PST and it indeed is a valid flash/flex so if you xxxxxd up your v3 and want the standard cingular stuff heres ur chance:

http://razrv3.hopto.org

Posted by: Candyman

Any chance of getting/finding a flash only file for the V3 RAZR (no flex)?

Thanks for the contribution as always!

Posted by: theyoshi

hehe.. thanks chopsu3i, wsup.im.chillin was huge in getting this out as well.

candyman as for your question I *believe* there is a way to split the flash and the flex out of the superfile... not sure how though.

I'd be interested in splitting out some of the 64R stuff and 57R stuff.. any help here would be appreciated

Posted by: Candyman

Quote:

Originally posted by theyoshi
hehe.. thanks chopsu3i.

candyman as for your question I *believe* there is a way to split the flash and the flex out of the superfile... not sure how though.

I'd be interested in splitting out some of the 64R stuff and 57R stuff.. any help here would be appreciated

Same here....BTW...does this pack lock your phone to Cingular?

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Try TTC 1.21.108 for a Flex backup. Never done it myself but I heard it was possible. Backup the flex from your 64R Razr and then flash to 57R, and put the 64R flex over it. You will still have to wrestle with Chinese text entry though.

Let me know if ENS sticks with that whole deal.

Kt

Posted by: ltzguy

through that flex backup thingy, I'll use it to make a file of the "wacky" firmware on mine.

It's unbranded, has IM, can be SEEM modified to show AIM, and has English and Chinese - but no Chinese menus.

Posted by: Player_One

Quote:

Originally posted by Candyman
Same here....BTW...does this pack lock your phone to Cingular?

Ditto!

Hey, is there a way to extract the language pack from this?

Posted by: mercedez

Great find. Heres another link to help with bandwidth Click here to Get it

Posted by: VDubbin98VR6

Quote:

Originally posted by Candyman
Any chance of getting/finding a flash only file for the V3 RAZR (no flex)?

Thanks for the contribution as always!

There is one out there... search. I think it's 64R

Quote:

Originally posted by Candyman
Same here....BTW...does this pack lock your phone to Cingular?

My phone is running this exact flash/flex right now and it is NOT Cingular locked.

I have mirrored this link as well because I know people have been wanting it. I hate it when I'm searching for stuff and links go down...
So here is another one for you people, mine won't go down.

I have oodles of bandwidth and a good server.
http://www.GldRush98.com/moto/GSM_V...nster_Flash.zip

Posted by: jdmrice

am i doing anything wrong? i flashed my phone couple time with that file keep on getting flex error as the "greeting" when i turn on the phone...
if i delete it from the greeting then restart the phone..it will come back... does anyone know why??

thanks

Posted by: theyoshi

that's definitely odd.. I think we are going to need a bit more detail then what you have given to be able to help you. Are you sure your flash was 100% successful?

Posted by: VDubbin98VR6

Quote:

Originally posted by jdmrice
am i doing anything wrong? i flashed my phone couple time with that file keep on getting flex error as the "greeting" when i turn on the phone...
if i delete it from the greeting then restart the phone..it will come back... does anyone know why??

thanks

what error are you getting?
It's not the subsidy error is it?

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Did you flash it according to the guide?

Posted by: wired4life

I hope you guys dont mind me asking but HOW DO YOU flash and flex a phone? By connecting what cables exactly? Is the Usb cable that I got with my Razr going to work? To make it able to flash I mean. By the way is this flash and flex thing going to give me Cingulars AIM program as well plus any bluetooth updates and so on and so on?

I seen someone say something about flashing it from 6R to 5 R or something like that. Is flashing it from 6R to 5 R a step down or is that a improvement of sorts? All in all suffice it to say I need some kind of a flash or flex or both in order to make my wireless internet on my phone work. My phone is eurpoean/asia and it has Chinese characters when its charging and for some things but English for the rest and plus it doesnt have "media net" which Cingular told me it must have in order for my wireless internet to work so I hope whatever flash or flex I just downloaded has it. Any people who can advise me? I'm quite new to the flash and flexing biz. Thanks a bunch and Happy New Year to all of you.

Posted by: lneiln

Go here to get some basic info and then Check this website to learn about Flashing and flexing

Posted by: jdmrice

actually it is the subsidy error ...
my flashing process was successful and i know it has somthing to do with the locked singular phone..just wondering if i can get rid of that error message...
or i just have to live with it...

and also...friend of mine have a V3 from Asia.. is it possible that I backed up his flash and flex and load it on to my phone??.. then the phone should be unlocked right?? (i know i am not suppose to ask anything about how to unlock a phone..but just wondering about the possiblity...) that way i can also read/write chinese when ever i am in Asia...

Posted by: blackraven

For those interested, I have pulled basics from the 64R (images, sounds, menu, java, SEEM) and zipped 'em here:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...threadid=533296

Side note...The TTC flex backup doesn't work for me, it creates a file, but get an error when opened.

Posted by: scanido

Isn't going from the 64R to the 57R a downgrade?

What does the 57R have over the 64R?

Posted by: theyoshi

Quote:

Originally posted by scanido
Isn't going from the 64R to the 57R a downgrade?

What does the 57R have over the 64R?

This has been answered before so I am not going to go into details here... the 57R firmware has better ENS for cingular/att than 64R does meaning you will get FAR better reception using 57R then you will using 64R if you are a cingular/att customer. May hold true for t-mo or other US GSM carriers as well but there is no confirmation of that like there is with cingular/att.

Posted by: wired4life

Hey I appreciate your reply to that question Yoshi I really do. I was wondering about that myself since i'm new to this whole thing. As for what you said about the question being asked and answered before and you not wanting to go into "details" about it.

No reason for the tude my man, you have to understand something. This forum has freaking tons and i mean TONS of threads and stickies and links to this and that and just about whatever. The search funciton sucks. If someone is looking for a particular subject to see if its been addressed or thier questions already answered it would take them a eternity to waddle through all this crap just to find what they are looking for. As for me I could'nt care less what the moderators say, lets see them search for hours on end for the stuff that they always say is in a sticky or a faq or some othe forum.

I know it gets tiresome afterawhile but for most people especially those that are new to these forums its way simpler to ask whether or not you know something has been addressed before or not and hope for a direct reply. But after all it's a brand new year. Lets start off on the right foot now shall we?

As Steven Segal said in "Out for Jusitce"

"Don't be a wise guy. Be a nice guy"

Posted by: Candyman

Quote:

Originally posted by VDubbin98VR6
There is one out there... search. I think it's 64R

That was also a monster pack.

Posted by: Thespis

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I know it gets tiresome afterawhile but for most people especially those that are new to these forums its way simpler to ask whether or not you know something has been addressed before or not and hope for a direct reply.

It's not just tiresome, it actually adds to the amount of "crap" one gets when searching. Fewer threads with the same info = faster searches = fewer hits to wade through.

Posted by: wired4life

Touche' I hear ya bro. But unfortunately I dont belong to the pyschic network. Give and take, give and take.

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Any chance of consolidating all the crap into one official V3 Firmware thread?

Posted by: theyoshi

I tried that with this thread: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...threadid=522092

caught on for a while... I almost think we'd be better off assembling a good document and then posting it up into the forums... hopefully getting it marked sticky...

Posted by: theyoshi

Quote:

Originally posted by wired4life

I know it gets tiresome afterawhile but for most people especially those that are new to these forums its way simpler to ask whether or not you know something has been addressed before or not and hope for a direct reply. But after all it's a brand new year. Lets start off on the right foot now shall we?

First of all as it has been said the "simpler to ask" mindset is exactly why the serach "sucks" as you say, because there are so many threads with similar or the same info. I almost wish the mods would just start deleting posts that ask questions that have been asked, that would make the search "suck" less.

Also if it is so terribly difficult explain the last post on this page to me: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...e=&pagenumber=4 made by mike393

Here's a little excerpt for you:

Quote:

Originally posted by mike393
Hi all,

I just hacked my V3 after reading these forums and I want to thank you all for the help. I got my V3 a few weeks ago and love it but the volume on my earpiece and speakerphone seemed kinda low compared to the V600.... I used p2kman and xvi32 to change the Hex files and increase the volume to level 08 from 01 as we've read here.

If you go and look at the post itself you will notice it is his FIRST POST!!!!! mike393 is the type of person we need more of on this forum. He read, he searched, he learned, then he asked.

Posted by: wired4life

uhhh...ok LOL. Do you usually take note of peoples first posts or is that a hobby of yours? Very good for Mike, we'll put a star next to his name so when he dies he can go straight to hofo heaven.

Chill dude, watch some tv or something. Peace

Posted by: Thespis

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But unfortunately I dont belong to the pyschic network.

Huh?

Quote:

Do you usually take note of peoples first posts or is that a hobby of yours? Very good for Mike, we'll put a star next to his name so when he dies he can go straight to hofo heaven.

I think you missed the point. theyoshi is trying to point out that folks get plenty of information the old fashioned way; by SEARCHING for it.

Quote:

Give and take, give and take.

There is a wealth of information here for the taking. Free. Gratis. No charge. All you have to do is look.
Why do you insist that someone give it to you?

Posted by: jdmrice

so..does anyone have answer or info regarding to my questions?

thanks again

Quote:

Originally posted by jdmrice
actually it is the subsidy error ...
my flashing process was successful and i know it has somthing to do with the locked singular phone..just wondering if i can get rid of that error message...
or i just have to live with it...

and also...friend of mine have a V3 from Asia.. is it possible that I backed up his flash and flex and load it on to my phone??.. then the phone should be unlocked right?? (i know i am not suppose to ask anything about how to unlock a phone..but just wondering about the possiblity...) that way i can also read/write chinese when ever i am in Asia...

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

If you want Chinese text entry on your phone there's a Razr 64R firmware floating around. This doesn't have Cingular's ENS however.

There are no flex only files for the V3 to my knowledge.

Kt

Posted by: theyoshi

Quote:

Originally posted by wired4life
uhhh...ok LOL. Do you usually take note of peoples first posts or is that a hobby of yours? Very good for Mike, we'll put a star next to his name so when he dies he can go straight to hofo heaven.

Chill dude, watch some tv or something. Peace

I happened to notice that it was his first post, and that he seemed to have used his little orange search button in combination with his mind to find what he needed. I do find it ironic that you have spent probably as much time defending why you don't bother to search as it would take you to actually search and find what you need.....

Reply if you want, I am done with this discussion... just try to search before asking questions, it makes the forum better.

Posted by: luckygoldstar7

so let me get this straight..

this firmware (57R) is cingular branded, but unlocked?

and does NOT have any chinese characters?

Posted by: jdmrice

well..i flashed the 57R into my phone.. the phone is still locked and there aren't any chinese support..

i believe if your phone was unlocked it will remain unlock...(but what makes the phone locked??) i am confused...hahaha

Posted by: scanido

So the biggest difference is that the 57R
has ENS ability over the 64R firmware.

Would this ENS feature be beneficial here
in Canada now that Rogers Wireless
acquired Fido and you can use either
network like Cingular and AT&T or is it
fixed only to the Cingular/AT&T tower signatures?

Posted by: VDubbin98VR6

Quote:

Originally posted by luckygoldstar7
so let me get this straight..

this firmware (57R) is cingular branded, but unlocked?

and does NOT have any chinese characters?

Yes, the 57R is cingular's software for the V3. It is branded, but the branding logos/links and crap can be easily removed as I have done it on mine. The Cingular software is better because it has cingular's ENS in it which will allow you to float seemlessly between Cingular and AT&T towers if the AT&T is stronger instead of sticked to a weaker cingular tower. (that's the way I understand it anyway)

And no, NO chinese lettering.
It as English, French, Spanish, and Portugese languages on it.

Quote:

Originally posted by jdmrice
well..i flashed the 57R into my phone.. the phone is still locked and there aren't any chinese support..

i believe if your phone was unlocked it will remain unlock...(but what makes the phone locked??) i am confused...hahaha

Right. If you have an unlocked phone, this software will not lock the phone.
If you have a locked phone from cingular though, then it will not unlock it.

Some V3's came unlocked. The first batch from cingular were unlocked because I have one.
The new V3's currently coming from cingular though ARE LOCKED. As far as I know there is no way to changed the software on the phone to remove a lock. I'm not sure how that one works, but that's what I know.
The only way is w/ an unlock code, which if you play your cards right cingular might give you.

Hope that clears it up a bit.

Posted by: Candyman

Quote:

Originally posted by scanido
So the biggest difference is that the 57R
has ENS ability over the 64R firmware.

Would this ENS feature be beneficial here
in Canada now that Rogers Wireless
acquired Fido and you can use either
network like Cingular and AT&T or is it
fixed only to the Cingular/AT&T tower signatures?

The stock Rogers V3 may come with 57R as well. Their beta version had 57R so I assuming that the final version will come with it as well.

Posted by: VDubbin98VR6

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I'm pretty sure it only works with Cingular and AT&T tower ID's.

So, in other words ENS wouldn't benefit you.

I could be wrong though. It's been known to happen

Posted by: luckygoldstar7

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i believe if your phone was unlocked it will remain unlock...(but what makes the phone locked??) i am confused...hahaha

me too....

i thought that the lock was in the firmware

Posted by: razrv3

Quote:

Originally posted by VDubbin98VR6
I'm pretty sure it only works with Cingular and AT&T tower ID's.

So, in other words ENS wouldn't benefit you.

I could be wrong though. It's been known to happen

Just a quick question. What does ENS stand for? Enhanced Network Service? I'm on T-Mo and had the 57R from Cingular and was able to search and select both ATT and T-Mo networks on my phone. I don't know if that is what ENS does.

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Quote:

Originally posted by razrv3
Just a quick question. What does ENS stand for? Enhanced Network Service? I'm on T-Mo and had the 57R from Cingular and was able to search and select both ATT and T-Mo networks on my phone. I don't know if that is what ENS does.

ENS stands for enhanced network selection. Even though (with a little modding if your phone features are provider locked) you can manually search and select a better tower than the one you're on, for us Cingular users this would have to be done constantly since, as of right now, Cingular's Orange and Blue towers have different IDs. With ENS, the phone is a little smarter. From my experience, it still isn't quite as good as having one network ID that your phone always finds the best tower on. But any other way, and you'll be stuck with half the number of towers you could be utilizing. Or even worse.

As far as I know, the only other thing ENS could be used for is providers that are offering no-charge roaming on each other's networks. If Cingular continues to let me roam for free on T-Mobile after they get orange and blue integrated, ENS might continue to be a desirable feature if I'm 2 blocks away from a T-Mobile tower.

Since ENS is a combination of phone hardware/software and sim software, I'm not sure if your 57R V3 with a T-Mobile sim is utilizing it properly. You can usually tell it is if you find a spot where a Cingular orange or blue tower is stronger than a T-Mobile one, and your phone continues to stay on Cingular's tower after you switch to it (instead of switching back to T-Mobile in order to save you from non-existent roaming charges).

Kt

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

In fact, if you could a little testing and find out what happens, you would be the man in my book.

Posted by: razrv3

I drive about 100 miles round trip for my comute to work, and have watched the single and provider on my phone, the single stays pretty much the same throughout my route, but at some points the provider name switches from T-Mobile to ATT on my phone. I have nationwide roaming with my T-Mo package. So maybe that's why I'm seeing both providers show up on my phone.

Thanks for the 411 on the ENS explaination. Very informative.

-- Cudos to You!

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Quote:

Originally posted by razrv3
I drive about 100 miles round trip for my comute to work, and have watched the single and provider on my phone, the single stays pretty much the same throughout my route, but at some points the provider name switches from T-Mobile to ATT on my phone.

What's important is not that it switches, but why it switches. Any phone could switch from T-Mobile to AT&T if it can't find any T-Mobile towers in sight (below a zero bar signal on the phone). An ENS enabled phone would search for another network as soon as the Rx signal strength from the T-Mobile tower dips below a certain threshold. If it finds an AT&T tower with a better signal, it will use it. But if not, the T-Mobile tower will still work for you with "iffy" reception (0-1 bar).

This is all based on what I have observed while testing different networks in different locations, and might be a little off.

Quote:

I have nationwide roaming with my T-Mo package. So maybe that's why I'm seeing both providers show up on my phone.

Like I said, any phone can switch from T-Mobile to AT&T immediately when it loses a T-Mobile tower in sight as long as AT&T is on your preferred networks list on your sim card. This doesn't necessarily mean your phone is using ENS. It might, but again that depends on why it switches over.

Quote:

Thanks for the 411 on the ENS explaination. Very informative.

-- Cudos to You!

No problem man. Just trying to make sure you get the most out of your phone and service...

Posted by: GraemeCR

Given some of the earlier comments in this thread, it is with some trepidation that I make my second ever post. There’s probably too much information here, but I thought it might facilitate appropriate responses, provide some additional information and assist/encourage other newbs to explore.

What I have:
My V3 Razr is unbranded (Purchased Oct, ’04 from Expansys–USA with UK provider options - 10 locations available in WebSessions.) I am an original Cingular subscriber. Cingular Company store upgraded me (free) to 64 K SIM. I have MEdia Works package. GPRS works well, including Bluetooth-connected Ipaq.

The only reason that this device is running to its potential is that the information was gathered through this forum. (Store reps were anticipating the arrival of the phone when I went to them with questions, and telephone CSR’s didn’t want to talk to me. They pointed me to a Cingular Developer Website for the configuration questions I had back in then!)

(Note to other newbs like me: Remember the X-Files? - The Answer is Out There!, and, usually, you can find it. Sometimes, however, you have to ask.)

The phone has:
S/W Version: R374_G_0E.40.3CR
Flex Version: SE8621AXXB1046
DSP S/W Version: 62202000
Language List: 0039

Under Language, the following are listed:
Automatic
English
Francais
Deutsch
Italiano
Espanol
Nederlands
Turke
Portugues

What I have done:
Replaced Moto startup gif with a custom gif, and similarly replaced outer screen.
SEEM edits including:
-Time and Date (Autoupdate now possible)
- In-Call Set-up changes
- Hide/Show ID
- No repeat display of previously Dialed/Received calls in Call Logs
- Replaced IM Icon on Main Menu with AIM Icon
- Turned on Java App Launcher
Two questions:
1) Is there any experience out there as to whether 57R provides any advantage over 3CR?
At different locations within my own residence - and it’s not a huge mansion - my phone will automatically switch from a dropped Cingular to a strong ATT, but then will switch back to a weak Cingular when it finds it. If I force to stronger ATT it will still revert to Cingular after a few minutes.
2) Re AIM: Has anyone with similar S/W got past the “System not responding”?
I purchased “IM+” (www.shapeservices.com) and it works pretty well, but I would like to use the AIM Main Menu shortcut rather than waiting for the Java App to load. (Although IM+ does also provide MSN, ICQ & Jabber connections.)

Sincere thanks to all those tireless contributors (yadayadayada).
The (usually) silent newbs do appreciate your endeavors.

Posted by: ltzguy

Quote:

Originally posted by GraemeCR

The phone has:
S/W Version: R374_G_0E.40.3CR
Flex Version: SE8621AXXB1046
DSP S/W Version: 62202000
Language List: 0039

Under Language, the following are listed:
Automatic
English
Francais
Deutsch
Italiano
Espanol
Nederlands
Turke
Portugues

SEEM edits including:
-Time and Date (Autoupdate now possible)
- In-Call Set-up changes
- Hide/Show ID

2) Re AIM: Has anyone with similar S/W got past the “System not responding”?
I purchased “IM+” (www.shapeservices.com) and it works pretty well, but I would like to use the AIM Main Menu shortcut rather than waiting for the Java App to load. (Although IM+ does also provide MSN, ICQ & Jabber connections.)

I have the same firmware as you, and have gotten the AIM application to work with tmobile. I'm curious about why you switched "IM" to "AIM" though - as far as I can tell they're almost the same application, except that one supports more than AIM, and one has the servers hardcoded.

I'm also curious about what you changed to in-call set-up?

And if you can figure out how to extract your language pack, I'd really appreciate it. I only have crummy english and chinese

P.S.: Don't worry about the "been around forever" types. Some people just need to get a life.

Posted by: GraemeCR

Itzguy,
You said you have the same firmware, what S/W version do you have?

IM vs AIM
I didn't ever get the impression that IM was going anywhere. With AIM, I get the little yellow fellow, and it attempts to sign me in. I enter my screen name and it says signing in to AIM but then I get the "System not responding" message.

For the changes to In Call set up see this thread

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=522092&perpage=15&pagenumber=3

I didn't mean to imply that I discovered the hacks. I was attempting to establish some "functional credibilty" prior to posting a question. (Well.....two questions.)

I wouldn't really know how to do an original hack into the S/W, but I wonder if the key is in the "Language List"? Maybe 0039 unlocks the European languages. Hidden in the S/W somewhere?

Posted by: ltzguy

Quote:

Originally posted by GraemeCR
Itzguy,
You said you have the same firmware, what S/W version do you have?

IM vs AIM
I didn't ever get the impression that IM was going anywhere. With AIM, I get the little yellow fellow, and it attempts to sign me in. I enter my screen name and it says signing in to AIM but then I get the "System not responding" message.

For the changes to In Call set up see this thread

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=522092&perpage=15&pagenumber=3

I didn't mean to imply that I discovered the hacks. I was attempting to establish some "functional credibilty" prior to posting a question. (Well.....two questions.)

I wouldn't really know how to do an original hack into the S/W, but I wonder if the key is in the "Language List"? Maybe 0039 unlocks the European languages. Hidden in the S/W somewhere?

My S/W R374_G_0E.40.3DR

The IM application has to go through a server that you specify. There's a public one available at www.yamigo.com.

The languages definitely aren't hidden; you need a pack.

And I was curious about what you changed with the in-call setup - I thought everything was enabled by default anyway.

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Quote:

Originally posted by GraemeCR
Two questions:
1) Is there any experience out there as to whether 57R provides any advantage over 3CR?
At different locations within my own residence - and it’s not a huge mansion - my phone will automatically switch from a dropped Cingular to a strong ATT, but then will switch back to a weak Cingular when it finds it. If I force to stronger ATT it will still revert to Cingular after a few minutes.

Your firmware revision (3C) is actually the number 60 when converted from hex to decimal. That puts it right in between the Cingular 57 and the unbranded Asian 64. I tried the 64 and didn't like it, I found the 57 works much better with Cingular. My phone sticks to whatever I tell it, but on power-on it looks for ATT. With the 64R firmware, my phone exhibited the exact same behavior as yours; registering Cingular on power-on and reverting back to it from ATT if it was in sight.

I couldn't tell you 100% that switching to 57R is better than what you have. I noticed your DSP version is different from mine too, so I'm not sure how that plays into it as well. But if your firmware is anything like the 64R I had on my phone, I can tell you that going back to 57R for me was like night and day.

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2) Re AIM: Has anyone with similar S/W got past the “System not responding”?
I purchased “IM+” (www.shapeservices.com) and it works pretty well, but I would like to use the AIM Main Menu shortcut rather than waiting for the Java App to load. (Although IM+ does also provide MSN, ICQ & Jabber connections.)

57R AIM works great. I'm willing to wager that something in your flex is screwing up your connection to AIM through Cingular, but the Cingular flex should take care of that. I couldn't use AIM with 64R either, and I believe it was for the same reason.

Kt

Posted by: GraemeCR

Itzguy,
Yours: R374_G_0E.40.3DR

Mine: R374_G_0E.40.3CR

How significant is C vs D ? I certainly don't know.

Re: In Call Setup edit, change affects item My Caller ID as follows:
Before edit there was only one item Next Call Only (as I recall)
After edit there are 2 items on the menu:

Next Call Only
All Calls: Hide ID / Show ID / Network Controlled. (Selectable) So one can choose to always hide one's ID by "default"
Also, after the edit, the ID Status each of the Dialed Calls at the time it was dialed is displayed on a new line in the call record.

Thanks for the yamigo tip. I'd seen it mentioned but hadn't really put it all together. Looks pretty straightforward. I'll probably give it try.

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Quote:

Originally posted by GraemeCR
Itzguy,
Yours: R374_G_0E.40.3DR

Mine: R374_G_0E.40.3CR

How significant is C vs D ? I certainly don't know.

3C = 60
3D = 61

His is newer.

Kt

Posted by: GraemeCR

wsup.im.chiLLiN

Thanks for your respanse. That clears up a few things. So now it's for me to decide whether or not to flash/flex to 57R. I don't think there's a way to back up my existing firmware, is there? So it would appear to be a one-way trip. Hmmmm

Not a decision to be taken this late in the evening.

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Quote:

Originally posted by GraemeCR
wsup.im.chiLLiN

Thanks for your respanse. That clears up a few things. So now it's for me to decide whether or not to flash/flex to 57R. I don't think there's a way to back up my existing firmware, is there? So it would appear to be a one-way trip. Hmmmm Not a decision to be taken this late in the evening.

I'd sleep on it.

Not a problem man.. Hope it works out. Keep in mind you can always flash to 64R, which is even newer than your current version, in case 57R doesn't work out. As long as you don't mind the category "General" for your phonebook being written in Chinese.

Must be gettin late, I had to edit this THREE times..

Posted by: GraemeCR

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wsup.im.chiLLiN quote:
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Originally posted by GraemeCR
Itzguy,
Yours: R374_G_0E.40.3DR

Mine: R374_G_0E.40.3CR

How significant is C vs D ? I certainly don't know.

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3C = 60
3D = 61

His is newer.

According to an earlier post of his, it's the English/Chinese language pack.

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

Language packs are firmware independent, meaning that a firmware revision can be loaded with any language pack from Motorola. So your phone could be loaded with his language pack and still have the same firmware revision.

Basically, firmware is the low level software that operates the phone's circuits. On top of that sits the flex, which has the menus and features, and then a language pack which enables a flex to be used with a certain language. If I worked at Motorola, I could take your phone, put Cingular's flex on it, add a Chinese language pack and still keep your firmware at revision 3CR.

Kt

Posted by: GraemeCR

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Originally posted by wsup.im.chiLLiN
Language packs are firmware independent, meaning that a firmware revision can be loaded with any language pack from Motorola. So your phone could be loaded with his language pack and still have the same firmware revision.

Basically, firmware is the low level software that operates the phone's circuits. On top of that sits the flex, which has the menus and features, and then a language pack which enables a flex to be used with a certain language. If I worked at Motorola, I could take your phone, put Cingular's flex on it with a Chinese language pack and still keep your firmware at revision 3CR.

Kt

Thanks again. I'm learning! Really appreciate the info.

Posted by: ltzguy

Will the ones from the v600 work on the v3?

And has anyone found any for the v3 itself?

Posted by: Candyman

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Originally posted by wsup.im.chiLLiN
3C = 60
3D = 61

His is newer.

Kt

Are you sating that the 3CR and the 3DR are both newer than the Cingular's 57R?

Posted by: scanido

Just tried 57R it holds the signal well, however it is SLOW as hell! Going from the 64R to the 57R is like night and day in the speed department. THis is what i perceived when first entering, reading phone book and even listing pictures in multimedia manager.

Has anyone tested 57R vs. 3C firmware? Maybe the 3C firmware has ENS?

Posted by: tasset

I am in the middle of experimenting between 3CR vs. 57R flash myself. My RAZR came with 3CR and works well on Tmobile and Cingular everywhere I've been.
I have downloaded our good HoFo friends' flex files but haven't actually loaded the flash yet, just seem edits. Waiting on a Cingular 64K sim card before I go down that road.
I think for the next couple weeks I may experiment with my current sim card, the network selection, and Engineering menu to see if Cingular/AT&T towers are transparent.
Anyone else testing this keep us all posted

Posted by: s0ccergoof

I have R374_G_0E.40.3ER_A firmware on my v3 and have had no trouble connecting and things seem fast, is there any way for me to tell if ENS is enabled with this firmware?

Posted by: theyoshi

I really didn't notice any performance difference between 64R and 57R... of couse maybe I'm just not as impatient as you

Posted by: jdmrice

so..does anyone know what locks the phone?? if it's not firmware then it's the flex?? since my phone is displaying flex error withe the subsidy error message..
man..this is bad.. i am going to japan and china next week and i'll have to stick with pos international roaming

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

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Originally posted by s0ccergoof
I have R374_G_0E.40.3ER_A firmware on my v3 and have had no trouble connecting and things seem fast, is there any way for me to tell if ENS is enabled with this firmware?

If you got your phone like that from Cingular, and it has a Cingular flex, chances are it's good to go. Might be better than 57R due to the newer firmware revision (62 as opposed to 57). The main thing is that the 64R Razr firmware that is floating around isn't made for Cingular users, it's an asian firmware that doesn't have the crazy network selection stuff.

Hell, I'm not even sure it's the firmware that makes the difference. For all I know, it could be the flex, and until we can get the Cingular flex file by itself and not with a monster pack, there's no way to find out.

Kt

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

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Originally posted by jdmrice
so..does anyone know what locks the phone?? if it's not firmware then it's the flex?? since my phone is displaying flex error withe the subsidy error message..
man..this is bad.. i am going to japan and china next week and i'll have to stick with pos international roaming

Take your phone to Cingular and tell them to unlock it because you're going to Asia.

Kt

Posted by: tasset

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Originally posted by jdmrice
so..does anyone know what locks the phone?? if it's not firmware then it's the flex?? since my phone is displaying flex error withe the subsidy error message..

From what I have gathered it's not either firmware or flex. It's something else embedded within the phone.
There are plenty of places online to unlock Motorolas, maybe that route will be worth it to you.

Posted by: jdmrice

been doing so already, but they said "it's a company policy that we can't unlock our phones" "we have the ability to unlock it but we can not"
oh..you are going to asia, let me sell you this international roaming packages for only 5.99 blah blah blah
hahahaha.....oh well..i told them i already have a sim over there and they said sorry can't do nothing..

went to some places in the market place forum, and entered my imei number..its somehow not available yet...so i don't know what else i can do but wait till this v3 is not as popular...

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Originally posted by wsup.im.chiLLiN
Take your phone to Cingular and tell them to unlock it because you're going to Asia.

Kt

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

You went about it the wrong way. First of all, if you're gonna bust out right away with the U word you're gonna get nowhere fast.

You gotta be smarter than these people man. The right way to do it is call them with pizzaz, and it goes a little somethin' like this:

"Thank you for calling Cingular Wireless my name is Lanisha how can I help you?"

"Hi Lanisha.. I'm going to China on business next week. I do this regularly and I have my own GSM service provider over there. I'd like to be able to use my phone with them so is there anything I need to do? They already gave me a card to use and everything."

Kt

Posted by: wsup.im.chiLLiN

I'm not saying that's guaranteed to work 100% either, I'm just saying that you have a much better chance of finding someone who will help you when you know how to talk as opposed to just saying you wanna unlock your phone. Usually, the word unlock strikes some bad connotations in the minds of authority/administration types.

Most of the people working for the company feel like they have to look after its interests, so they figure there was probably a ×××× good reason why the phone was locked. I guarantee you some of them probably don't fully understand what a locked phone means, and think it's just some kinda feature to make sure you don't use it to hack their network.

Kt

Posted by: Treatz

what exactly is this ENS?

Posted by: Slax

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Originally posted by jdmrice
been doing so already, but they said "it's a company policy that we can't unlock our phones" "we have the ability to unlock it but we can not"
oh..you are going to asia, let me sell you this international roaming packages for only 5.99 blah blah blah
hahahaha.....oh well..i told them i already have a sim over there and they said sorry can't do nothing..

went to some places in the market place forum, and entered my imei number..its somehow not available yet...so i don't know what else i can do but wait till this v3 is not as popular...

A very similar story here....
V3 locked to Vodafone UK. Am already in India and helpless as the V3 wont accept Orange.
Flashed my phone twice last night using 64R and 3CR, did not unlock my phone. The message I get is "Contact service provider". I have exhausted my tries for entering the subsidy code thanks to wrong information provided by "Motorola Customer Service, India". I wonder if anything can be done now!!! SOS!!

Posted by: TritonQuinn

The phone can be fixed if you unlock the phone. The only reason you can't make or receive is because you have entered the subsidy code too many time and it has lock your phone.

Posted by: shaolinmonk

anybody still have this? the links are all down

Posted by: TroubleMaker

Hello,

I had same problem before.
Because of putting wrong code few times, I did not get the code input mode.

But there was some other code....
It was like menu, *, 0, 4, 8, 2, 6,.... like that.

When it shows contact the service provider,
you press that code, then you get unlock code input mode one more time.

If I did not delete that email I got from Cingular,
I could give you right code.... sorry.....

But, I think some body here in howard forums knows...

All you need is the unlock code.

Posted by: TroubleMaker

Quote:

Originally posted by Slax
A very similar story here....
V3 locked to Vodafone UK. Am already in India and helpless as the V3 wont accept Orange.
Flashed my phone twice last night using 64R and 3CR, did not unlock my phone. The message I get is "Contact service provider". I have exhausted my tries for entering the subsidy code thanks to wrong information provided by "Motorola Customer Service, India". I wonder if anything can be done now!!! SOS!!

Hello,

I had same problem before.
Because of putting wrong code few times, I did not get the code input mode.

But there was some other code....
It was like menu, *, 0, 4, 8, 2, 6,.... something like that.

When it shows contact the service provider,
you press that code, then you get unlock code input mode one more time.

If I did not delete that email I got from Cingular,
I could give you right code.... sorry.....

But, I think some body here in howard forums knows...

All you really need is the unlock code.

Posted by: FuZioNxMaxboost

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57R waiting for someone to get AIM to work with tmo

Posted by: YseanY

i kno this firmware has the ens for cingular, but i was wondering if its suppose to display which provider ur on (shows att when on att and cingular when on cingular)? or is it suppose to constantly say cingular on the screen?

Posted by: Slax

Quote:

Originally posted by TroubleMaker
Hello,

I had same problem before.
Because of putting wrong code few times, I did not get the code input mode.

But there was some other code....
It was like menu, *, 0, 4, 8, 2, 6,.... something like that.

When it shows contact the service provider,
you press that code, then you get unlock code input mode one more time.

If I did not delete that email I got from Cingular,
I could give you right code.... sorry.....

But, I think some body here in howard forums knows...

All you really need is the unlock code.

Managed to get around that problem. You just have to keep the phone switched ON for a couple of hours and the option for entering the code appears by itself. All this while I used to switch off the phone coz it was not on network anyways!! managed to get the code from my service provider in UK for 20 pounds...$40. Thats expensive!!! But no option!

Posted by: swixo

Quote:

Originally posted by wsup.im.chiLLiN
3C = 60
3D = 61

His is newer.

Kt

If the designators are all hex - then it is older not newer. Do you have any evidence to show that Motorola mixes hex and decimal in this verison number? This would be illogical.

BTW: A skip intro on your website would be a welcome gift
to everyone who clicks one of your "useful" links.

s

Posted by: [Q]

Quote:

Originally posted by wsup.im.chiLLiN

As far as I know, the only other thing ENS could be used for is providers that are offering no-charge roaming on each other's networks. If Cingular continues to let me roam for free on T-Mobile after they get orange and blue integrated, ENS might continue to be a desirable feature if I'm 2 blocks away from a T-Mobile tower.

Kt

Anyone out there on Fido with Rogers Roaming for networks? Can we use the cingular ENS on 57R to switch seemlessly b/w Fido and Rogers towers (whoever has the stronger signal) just as Cingular and other providers in the US?

Can we hardcode the providers to switch b/w ?

Posted by: Treatz

Quote:

Originally posted by [Q]
Anyone out there on Fido with Rogers Roaming for networks? Can we use the cingular ENS on 57R to switch seemlessly b/w Fido and Rogers towers (whoever has the stronger signal) just as Cingular and other providers in the US?

Can we hardcode the providers to switch b/w ?

The sim has to support that.
Rogers plan is to integrate the networks much more quicky meaning the cingular solution wno't be needed.

Posted by: coasal_mat

HI, I'm a total noob at this. I have been reading all night but can't find what I need so I thought I'd ask. Just bought a V3i and when trying to txt the itap program brings up mandarin. Is there a language flash for european English??? Also anyone know if anyone has been successful extracting itunes for those of us who would like it?