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Webjal protocal
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Posted by: mikesown

I'm taking intro to comptuer science next semester, and i was thinking about making a jal of my own, which didnt require any logins or patches, and would be open source. I was just curious of any experiences you have had with this, if you think it would be hard etc. I really don't have a clue about what to think about this. I just think it would be extremly cool to make a program that solved all the patching problems, and I imagine I would learn a lot from the experience. I would appriciate it if you could share your thoughts with me!

Thanks,
Mike

Posted by: YoDude

Go for it. It sounds like a cool project! Gee wiz, I wonder why no one has thought about that?

Seriously, if you have the skills...

BTW, to bring you up to date:

The loader obviously communicates with the phone via ACSII. It prol'lly can be emulated with a terminal app.
The command syntax is where you will get hung up as well as duplicating the sequence used to open the port.

Posted by: mikesown

yeah.. i guess i could tap into what the phone was saying to the computer by using a serial cable or something... It would definitly be cool if I could do something like this.... To be completly honest with everyone, I dont have TOO much programming experience, but I know a few people that are good with programming at my high school so they could probably help me out! Btw, does anyone know if there is a way to tap into a usb connection by reading what is being sent?

Thanks,
Mike

Posted by: TekniDude

Google for 2 programs called usbmon and portmon.

Using the serial cable method would probably be the easiest route.
But like YoDude said, it'll be a pain in the ××× to figure out the protocol used...
If encryption is used then thats beyond my capabilities.

Start analyzing the data between the phone and the computer and hopefully you will see a pattern.
That will make it possible/easier to work with it and you can get an idea of how the protocol works.

Other then that, good luck...

-Jason

Posted by: mikesown

i just realized something. sprint and nextel are merging. they are going over to sprints networks. iden phones will become useless. correct me if i am wrong, but are iden phones becomming obsolete because of the merger?

mike

Posted by: mikesown

hmm i logged some traffic from the phone... basically i see traffic when it is connecting, then again when i send ringtones/pictures... I guess I could just send the hex data to connect that i have to the phone, then compare the hex code i have to the ringtones themselves, and see if there is something before the data, or how it is structured... i'll be sure to keep you guys updated.. right now its 10:14pm and i've got midterms towmarrow :<

Posted by: mikesown

i decided to stay up for a bit, and i have some bad news :< I captured the data from the usb connection, and it appears that none of it matches the hex data of the midi file i was sending. I know it is using clear text, because at the begining it sends "

.M.o.t.o.r.o.l.a.

and
$.F.l.a.s.h. .P.2.K. .P.a.t.r.i.o.t.

again, i am not knowledgable about protocals, so if anyone wants me to email them the capture and the midi file, just paste your email here!

Posted by: YoDude

"Patriot" is the routine it uses to open the phones port. When you press "connect to phone" on webjal you "here" the usb connection drop out then reconnect. this is when webjal is invoking "patriot" from what I remember.