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so what's involved in watching DVD movies on the MPx220?
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Posted by: DaleJr#8

I heard that some people have taken and converted DVD movies and watched them on their phones but I have no idea on how to do this.

I know that there's supposed to be an app that converts the movie over but I also heard that it does it in DivX format. I then heard that you need something else to play DivX movies and so on.

so for you peeps who are already watching your DVDs on your MPx220, I will ask you how did you do this and is it pretty easy to do?

Posted by: Fuzzy_Logic_2

First you need to get the DVD onto your hard drive and there's plenty of programs that will do this, such as DVD Ripper.

Once there, it's a simple matter of finding a program you like to convert it to the format and resolution you want.

Dr. Divx worked well for me, I tried the free trial. You do need something like BetaPlayer installed to watch DIVX though.

However, now I'm playing with Windows Movie Maker which comes free with XP (newest version is included with SP2 update). Last night, I made a WMV file for my Dell x50v and it looks great on Windows Media Player on the handheld.

EDIT: Tried it again on my MPX220 and it played fine, with some minor video stutter. I think it would be better to use a lower res on the MPX220, so I'm still going to try that.

My goal was to do this for free and I'm very happy with the results so far.

Posted by: tamber

I guess the dvd2ppc app would do it I would guess

Posted by: emh

Use any of the DVD ripping software to get the video on to the computer (I use SmartRipper).

Use something like PocketDivXEncoder to encode the video for the phone. PocketDivXEncoder already has a SmartPhone setup that has the correct resolutions, frame rates etc (although that shouldn't be hard to setup anyway).

Copy the encoded video over to the memory card for the phone, and use a DivX player (I'd recommend BetaPlayer).

Did this on the mpx220 and works great. According to the stats in BetaPlayer, about 1/4 of the frames are skipped, but the video quality is very good for a mobile device and you can't tell that many frames are being skipped. I also tried the PocketTV player, but the playback was noticeably choppier. Now, if only there were a player that took advantage of the built-in DSP on the mpx220, that woulr rock!

A couple of things to watch out for:
1. When copying the converted movie over to the phone, you have to use a card reader (won't work while the card is in the phone since the files are too big)
2. Had to adjust the contrast down a couple of notches in BetaPlayer to get rid of oversaturated dark colors (this is for an mpx220, will likely be different for other phones)

Posted by: DaleJr#8

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Originally posted by emh
Use any of the DVD ripping software to get the video on to the computer (I use SmartRipper).

okay. I ripped a DVD on my HDD and now I have a bunch of .VOB files in the folder.

what do I do with all of these files now?

Posted by: emh

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Originally posted by DaleJr#8
okay. I ripped a DVD on my HDD and now I have a bunch of .VOB files in the folder.

what do I do with all of these files now?

Open the files with PocketDivXEncoder -- it'll pick up the right file (i.e. when you do to the directory with the VOB files when selecting an input file, it'll only show the one it can work with).

Posted by: DaleJr#8

Quote:

Originally posted by emh
Open the files with PocketDivXEncoder -- it'll pick up the right file (i.e. when you do to the directory with the VOB files when selecting an input file, it'll only show the one it can work with).

okay, I just did that but the program is showing that I can select like 8 different files.

should I choose all of them or just the first one on the list?

Posted by: Fuzzy_Logic_2

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How big a file are you talking about? I activesync'd over a 50MB file the other day as I recall, using the Explorer window.

Posted by: DaleJr#8

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Originally posted by emh

A couple of things to watch out for:
1. When copying the converted movie over to the phone, you have to use a card reader (won't work while the card is in the phone since the files are too big)
2. Had to adjust the contrast down a couple of notches in BetaPlayer to get rid of oversaturated dark colors (this is for an mpx220, will likely be different for other phones)

Okay, I think I have it figured out but I was wondering what settings do you have the video and audio quality numbers set on for the best and optimal playback on the MPx220.

Posted by: DaleJr#8

my movies seem to be playing just fine but they seem to have something messed up with the video's resolution.

the video has like digital blocks here and there. mostly on darker parts of the movie.

is this something that can be corrected in the settings PocketDivXEncoder ? if so, what would you recommend?

Posted by: ChrisFB

It's the encoding. You can up the bitrate which will also increase file size. This isn't anything to do with a problem with the program but merely the settings employed. Make sure the resolution is no greater than that of the screen also, this will help a bit with file size.

Posted by: Control Track

OK, I got the BetaPlayer and the PocketDivX encoder, but could someone please post a link that goes directly to a reliable, FREE DVD ripper? I went to download.com and most were "free to try, $$$ to buy" and I went to some place and got a copy of Smart Ripper, but the install info was in a different language.

Also, question 1: How will it encode DVD's that are TV show compilations-Chappelle's Show Season 1-when I only want 1 or 2 episodes?

Question 2: Can I put BetaPlayer on my phone with a miniSD card reader? I don't have ActiveSync on the computer I'm working on, but I didn't know if I could put the file on the miniSD card, install the card into the phone, and then install the BetaPlayer by copying the BetaPlayer program from the storage card to the Applications folder. Is this possible, or do I need to use ActiveSync?

Posted by: ChrisFB

DVD Decrypter is free and one of if not the best - certainly it's more than good enough and easy enough. Do a search or just go to doom9.org where all this stuff is fully explained and most of legwork for these tools exists.

1) It's all about the VOB streams. You can rip them one stream at a time. DVD Decrypter automatically selects the longest stream (usually a movie). For a DVD with multiple episodes, just do some looking and you'll find the pattern. Rip whichever vob steams you want (or them all for each episode). Might take a trial and error or so but ripping a television show is generally fast.

2) I don't know. Lots of smartphone apps don't require activesynch to launch an install. Some do. You'll have to see.

Posted by: emh

Quote:

Originally posted by DaleJr#8
Okay, I think I have it figured out but I was wondering what settings do you have the video and audio quality numbers set on for the best and optimal playback on the MPx220.

I use 10 for video quality and the default for audio quality.

As for the black "blocks" in dark parts, I'm not sure what exactly you mean, but it may be the issue I referred to in my first post in this thread (BetaPlayer contrast).

Posted by: emh

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Originally posted by Fuzzy_Logic_2
How big a file are you talking about? I activesync'd over a 50MB file the other day as I recall, using the Explorer window.

I was trying a 200MB+ file

It goes along for about 25-30% and then restarts from the beginning. So my guess is 50ish MB is probably about the max. Apparently the data is copied to the phone memory first before being written to the card (at least, that's what I saw in another forum), so the limit is how much memory you have on the phone I guess.

Posted by: emh

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Originally posted by Control Track
OK, I got the BetaPlayer and the PocketDivX encoder, but could someone please post a link that goes directly to a reliable, FREE DVD ripper? I went to download.com and most were "free to try, $$$ to buy" and I went to some place and got a copy of Smart Ripper, but the install info was in a different language.

Yes, the SmartRipper installer is in German or something, but the app is in English after it's installd

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Also, question 1: How will it encode DVD's that are TV show compilations-Chappelle's Show Season 1-when I only want 1 or 2 episodes?

They'll show up as different tracks or something (I forget what they are called). You need to pick the ones you want based on the time length of the ones you want.

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Question 2: Can I put BetaPlayer on my phone with a miniSD card reader? I don't have ActiveSync on the computer I'm working on, but I didn't know if I could put the file on the miniSD card, install the card into the phone, and then install the BetaPlayer by copying the BetaPlayer program from the storage card to the Applications folder. Is this possible, or do I need to use ActiveSync?

No idea.

Posted by: chopsu3i

just go buy a memory card reader...they sell 8in1 digital memory card readers online for so cheap (less than $10). u also get to enjoy USB 2.0 speeds if u get a reader.

Posted by: ahfunaki

I use DVD Decrypter and AutoGK to get movies on my phone...

Posted by: ChrisFB

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Originally posted by ahfunaki
I use DVD Decrypter and AutoGK to get movies on my phone...

Just so everyone else knows, Gordian Knot (GK/AutoGK) can be found at doom9.org and is basically a front end for a compilation of included programs that are some of the best available. Downloads, guides and tutorials are all at doom9.org as well as forums and it is all free.

Both Gordian Knot and Auto Gordian Knot (AutoGK) are very customizable allowing one to tweak resolution, bitrate, audio, etc... This is a high quality solution. I'm not sure how important that is on a phone but it can be used for home theater also (I have an extensive streaming movie server) but the customizability will allow one to maximize the quality/file size ratio.

Posted by: martin4058

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my movies seem to be playing just fine but they seem to have something messed up with the video's resolution.

There was a video problem with Betaplayer version 0.096 when 'less rotation tearing' was selected. Have you tried installing the newly released stable 0.5 version ?

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Can I put BetaPlayer on my phone with a miniSD card reader? I don't have ActiveSync on the computer I'm working on, but I didn't know if I could put the file on the miniSD card, install the card into the phone, and then install the BetaPlayer by copying the BetaPlayer program from the storage card to the Applications folder. Is this possible, or do I need to use ActiveSync?

Yes, download the file 'betaplayer.arm.cabs.STABLE.0.5.zip' and uzip the file betaplayer.arm_sp.cab. Copy the cab file to the SD card and then insert the SD card into the phone. Use the phones file explorer to select the cab file which will self install.
Betaplayer website: http://betaplayer.corecodec.org

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I was trying a 200MB+ file It goes along for about 25-30% and then restarts from the beginning.

The transfer status restarts many times when copying very large files but the copying process is still ongoing. Just ignore it and the 200MB file will complete OK.

Posted by: martin4058

Here is a copy of some instructions I posted a while back just in case anyone finds it remotely useful. It uses PocketDivXEncoder which is very easy to use but it's not as flexible as some other applications.

First you need to extract the VOB files from DVD
1 Download DVD Decrytper from http://www.dvddecrypter.com/
2 Install and load up DVD decrypter on the PC and insert DVD
3 Goto Tools-Settings on Decrypter Menu bar, select IFO Mode tab and enable stream processing (click OK)
4 Goto Mode IFO on Decrypter menu bar
5 Click Input tab. You will see different VTS/PGC sections. One VTS section will contain a PGC which is the main film, has a lots of chapters and is approx a couple of hours long. Others VTS sections may contain PGC's which are short clips and trailers usually a few minutes long. Start by highlighting a PGC which is a short clip to get used to the coding procedure and also to test various video/audio quality settings. If you want to select the PGC which is the main film then you can always untick many of the chapters to create the smaller test file.
6 Click Stream processing tab and ensure that 'enable stream processing' is ticked. You will generally only need the 0xE0-Video and 0x80 Audio options ticked.
7 Goto File-Decrypt and it will transfer the selected file to a directory on the PC as a VOB file.

Next you need to code the VOB files to AVI for smartphone.
1 Download and install PocketDivXEncoder from http://divx.ppccool.com/
2 Load PocketDivXEncoder
3 Click Advance options and then click smartphone ICON. This will use the smartphone default parameters. Tick any required options i.e Xvid and 2 pass encoding.
4 Click icon next to 'File to encode' then locate movie directory and open VOB file (note: only one VOB filename will show but it will represent the total number of chapters copied over.
5 Select Audio stream if prompted (usually select 128) and click 'validate this stream'
6 Set preferred Video and Audio quality. Set output dimensions=220*176 which is the smartphone screen size.
7 You then have the option to crop some of the original film image, anything cropped will not be coded. This is useful for eliminating the dark bands above and below the actual movie. I crop the bands as I prefer to code for the full smartphone screen. After cropping you can untick the 'Resize automatically' option which will allow the movie to be scaled to the predefined output settings of 220*176 otherwise it will retain the aspect ratio and modify those output settings.
8 Press Direct encoding.

When it's finished encoding you can click 'Play an encoded file' and select the saved AVI file to see the results on the PC. Then just copy the file to the Smartphone SD card and play it in Betaplayer .

* To get increase video quality further you could select a device icon other than smartphone as this will allow a higher coding rate although it would obviously increase file size.

Posted by: Fuzzy_Logic_2

Martin4058 - haven't tried them yet, but thanks for the instructions. Nice job!

Posted by: jleecong

I posted this on Modaco a while ago but will post it here also.

* POST 1 *
I personally prefer Xvid and BetaPlayer supports it.

I use these free tools.
Rip the DVD to your computer (DVD Decrypter)
Convert from MPEG-II to Xvid (VirtualDUB MOD)

Check out http://www.vcdhelp.com or http://www.doom9.org for free tools and guides.
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* POST 2 *
The real question is not quality, it's file size at a given bitrate and what bitrates are equal with the different codec’s.

Encoding with higher bitrates should always get you a better picture, but also a larger file. Also audio is a concern as the DVD to SmartPhone app listed above has horrible audio settings that I find unlistenable.

I have been creating VCD, SVCD, DVD, Xvid, Divx for many years for standalones, computers, pocket PCs, and now SmartPhones and while all in one programs like "DVD TO MOBILE" are descent they are not best.

For me Xvid around 150 KBPS (2-Pass) with 11.5 Hz Stereo sound around 24KBPS is perfect. Movies are about 100-130MB so I can fit 2 on my 256MB card.

I notice most are using Divx which you should check out this Coded comparison from Doom9. (Not as good as most think, especially for detail.)
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/codecs-104-1.htm

Here is Doom9s Ripper comparison.
http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/dv..._comparison.htm
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* POST 3 *
Just so people can see and decide for themselves I encoded the Open Water Trailer in both XviD and Divx.

Divx 5.2.1
150 kbps (2-Pass)
MP3 24 kbps 11.025 Hz Stereo
http://wap.x2-hosting.com/movies/OpenWater(DIVX).avi (2.22MB)

XviD 1.0.3
150 kbps (2-Pass)
MP3 24 kbps 11.025 Hz Stereo
http://wap.x2-hosting.com/movies/OpenWater(XVID).avi (2.14MB)

Personally I open them with Media Player (Desktop) and set the size to 200% to see what the file really looks like. The trailers are formatted for the SmartPhone (220x176) and look good in BetaPlayer.
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Posted by: Control Track

Thanks for all the input everybody. I now have the dvd encrypter. I can't try all this out now because I'm at work and supposed to be working. But I'll give it a try later and if I have problems, I'm sure I'll let you all know. Thanks.

P.S. Maybe there could be a Smartphone FAQ sticky and this could be one of the tutorials in it.

Posted by: wolf55

Okay I have dvd to mobile and every time I convert a fullscreen movie it comes out widescreen unless i pick the zoom mode but that unneccesarly crops the sides of a fullscreen movie whats up with that? Now in the xvid encoding do you get chose what type of ratio you want and btw what is the defeault ratio of a fullscreen movie?

last question : When you just want to encode one chapter from the middle of a movie as to save space, there won't be any audio right? Cuz don't audio come in a full ac3 track? Would there be many difficult and tedious steps using virtual dub and such to cut the audio just right and then how do you lace it on to the avi?

Keep in mind that about might seem simply explained in all these conversion site faqs, but they are always assuming you will be encoding the whole movie not a chapter of it.

and btw I don't mean episode as those each can be treated a sepearte movie, I mean a chapter of a movie

thanks for any help guys and gals

Posted by: kherm1

wolf55! Do you have beta player ? or Do you play your movie on beta player?

Posted by: wolf55

i have betaplayer .094

I know you can zoom movies to make them look fullscreen but then the resolution is horrible

I'd like good reloution with a default 220x176 fullscreen or what ever size is the next on smallest as long as the whole orginal full screen 1.33:1 ratio is preserved.

thanks

Posted by: kherm1

I like beta player because I can watch my movie in fullscreen portrait not widescreen and No need to zoom in.

If you have beta player here are the setting that i use.

Beta player setting:
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Speed: 100%

View: Zoom: 100%
Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square
Orientation: Normal

Video: Video Driver:Raw FrameBuffer OR GDI

Audio: Quality: high
Audio Driver:Wave Output

Hit settings/Select Page/Player Now unselect (Auto pre rotate)

Now Select (Select Page) again select Hot Keys. Now u need to set (Rotate by 90) to what ever button u want.
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PocketDivXEncoder setting: Here are some tips.
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Open up (PocketDivXEncoder) and select ( PDA ) only!! YES PDA!

Video quality: 10

Audio quality: 2

Brightness: 6% Saturation: 0%

Sound:0% Contrast 0%

Output dimension : 176 x 220

now select (Add to the list) and hit Encode all.

Posted by: wolf55

jleecong you help for questions i possed in 2 post up would be greatly appreciated as I am interested in encoding in xvid.

Posted by: wolf55

let me try that out kerm i'll let you know how it goes and btw thanks,, did you like my pics anyway on the other topic mpx220 pics of the day?

Posted by: kherm1

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Originally posted by wolf55
let me try that out kerm i'll let you know how it goes and btw thanks,, did you like my pics anyway on the other topic mpx220 pics of the day?

Yess!! I love It. Also I will upload some karanke clip for you try on beta player.

Posted by: wolf55

those open water trailers are orginally wide screen no?

I don't have a full screen clip on me right now but I'll try it out later

but kherm from what i've seen though in you settings you leave alot of the screen blank, like as not being used. is there no optimal setting to have it take up as much of the screen as possible without distorting the ration but in horzonatl view?

I belive the view area would be bigger this way.

btw why did you pick video driver gdi as opposed to gapi I am clueless to what either of those are but am just wopndering if there is a significant differance.

thanx

Posted by: wolf55

yo a dragonballz fan?

if yOu are all take some more better pix of my toys for ya.

btw that movie you post make sure it is fullscreen orginal so i can test out

thanks again bud,

Posted by: wolf55

kherm heres another pic you might be interested in

Posted by: jleecong

Quote:

Originally posted by wolf55
those open water trailers are orginally wide screen no?

Yes. The aspect ratio is the same as the original. I personally just start whacking off sides if I want it to be full screen and the source isn't.

Posted by: kherm1

yo a dragonballz fan? Yes............ but i dont have no toys.

Sorry bud!!! I cannot upload to this web because the file is to big for this web.

Ps I also like that pic!

Posted by: wolf55

naw it ain't that serious i have full screen vids at home I'll try alter and report back

btw just for you i'll be taking more pix of the toy keep looking out for them in the other post.

peace

Posted by: kherm1

Anyway........Here some pic of it.

PS.. All pic that you see are (NOT ZOOM IN) .

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Posted by: wolf55

HMM how would it look like if you you played it horizontal,

btw now those vids are looking tempting, lol

it looks like really good quaility
what settings do you encode it in

for example kbps and frames per sec

thanx

Posted by: kherm1

Quote:

Originally posted by wolf55
HMM how would it look like if you you played it horizontal,

btw now those vids are looking tempting, lol

it looks like really good quaility
what settings do you encode it in

for example kbps and frames per sec

thanx

Here are the software that i use!!

A1 DVD RIPPER professional

Output Format Setting

VCD (MPEG1)
Video Bitrate:1150 kbits (between 650 and 1150)

Audio Bitrate: 224
Motion seach precision: Normal (fast)

Frame Rate 23.976 (NTSC)
.................................................. .................................................. .
Advance setting

Audio settings:
Volume: 5

Quality:
Nolmal Quality 48.0KHZ To 44.1KHz

Temporarily buffer:
Size(MB): 10 Location: Ram

Deinterlace Filter:
None

Zoom:
Full (16/9 or 4/3 input)

Split Mode:
Custom size 730MB

DeCSS Key:
Each VOB ID

Optimization:
MMX (Intel P2 , AMD K-6)
.................................................. .....................................
Here your horizontal.

Also here are the New STABLE release of (BETA Player ver 0.5)
http://betaplayer.corecodec.org/

.

Posted by: SmarthPhoneGuy

why don't you guys rip the DVD straight to avi file? does it have to be a vob file first?
Thanks

Posted by: kherm1

Quote:

Originally posted by SmarthPhoneGuy
why don't you guys rip the DVD straight to avi file? does it have to be a vob file first?
Thanks

First i rip vob file from dvd, and select VCD (MPEG1). Than i use

PocketDivXEncoder for avi files. The reson i dont rip the DVD

straight to avi file is! Avi file from dvd is to big from my phone.

Posted by: wolf55

wait what is most important the ripping or the encoding,

I thought for riping you just auto rip using dvd decrpter

what I am looking for is pocketdvdencoder settings

did you post thoses yet? I'll go check if not please post

plus Kherm if you know of anyway to successfully rip just a chapter of a movie and get it to have sound that info would be great too thanks.

Posted by: wolf55

btw that .5 beatplayer came out on my birthday yipeee a present!!!

but shouldn't it be call .05
all the other versions have been .03 and .04

hmm wierd

Posted by: wolf55

shouldn't the framerate be 29.9 somthing for ntsc?

Posted by: wolf55

Also About movie scenes you kow how I was asking for chapters

perhaps I mean a Scene, like when you go to a movie's chapter selection screen often a Scene starts and ends within a range of chapters say for example: chapters 18-21 any way to merge these together to have that entire scene on just one avi.

I guess that is where I am really tryin to get at.

thanx all
much love

el grande lobo

Posted by: wolf55

also with out taking up more than 1gb of harddrive space?

the numb nuts that I am I formated my drive to fat32 which only allows a maximum file size of about 4gb
really don't want to reformat any time soon...... no time!!!!

perhaps I'll just wait till my next computer

Posted by: kherm1

shouldn't the framerate be 29.9 somthing for ntsc? Yes........ but it work for me on -Frame Rate 23.976 (NTSC).

What name of dvd ripper you have?

On a1 dvd ripper you can copy chapters. for example: if the

movie have chapter 1-12, you can put them just to have 1

chapter. Or if you dont like chapter 12 just select 1-11 for 1

chapter.

PS Sorry i'm only have school for 2 year.

Posted by: wolf55

I have "dvddecrypter" . Do you have to purchase A1 professional?

Posted by: jleecong

Quote:

Originally posted by kherm1
shouldn't the framerate be 29.9 somthing for ntsc? yes but it

work for on Frame Rate 23.976 (NTSC).

29.97 is standard. 23.97 is for Film. Though some DVDs are encoded at 29.97 FPS.

These are the NTSC standards.

23 FPS will result in a slightly smaller file than 29 as thier are 6 less frames per second to encode.

Posted by: kherm1

Nop...!! but you do. Anyway you can use a1 dvd ripper standerd for now. It work the same thing, only professional can copy locked dvd.

Here are try ver. http://www.download.com/A1-DVD-Ripp...tml?tag=lst-0-1

PS Later a1 dvd ripper standerd will ask you for free upgrade to professional.

wolf55! Dont worry about $$$ i got you. Just try it out and let's me know if you like it or not.

Posted by: kherm1

Quote:

Originally posted by jleecong
29.97 is standard. 23.97 is for Film. Though some DVDs are encoded at 29.97 FPS.

These are the NTSC standards.

23 FPS will result in a slightly smaller file than 29 as thier are 6 less frames per second to encode.

You right jleecong !!!! You can set to 29.97 also for better pic .

Posted by: wolf55

thanks kherm I am at work and there is no dvd drive here but i'll try it out tonight and reprt back to you tommorrow

but it decodes whole dvd right? I don't think I have more than 2gbs on any partion open and cuz of fat 32 4gb would be max anyway.

Godd thing about dvd 2 mobile is that it rips it to 1gb max, but I guess that reduces quality.

Let me know if you wanna try that out too, even though your meth is probably much better.

Btw kherm Do you really own an Mpx (mpx300) or is that on your wish list, if you do own it is it better than the 220?

Posted by: wolf55

how come some movies say they are 1.33:1 ratio they look the same as fullscreen 4:3 ratios to me and A1 doesn't have a 1.33:1 option I wonder if I use the 16:9/4:3 option if it would destort the image.

what do you all think?

btw Kherm1 I just downloaded the free upgrade to a1 1.6 professional I just um.... need to register it.

I checked it out at work and the user interface is alot simplier than dvddecryter so it looks like its a keeper.

Posted by: kherm1

I do have it ............But my wife play with the phone and drop the

battery some where at the park. So i have to order one more

battery. Is mpx better than the 220? Not sure yet.

But for everyday use i use mpx200 and mpx220.

it decodes whole dvd right?? yes

Posted by: wolf55

btw i was just wonder how big does your avi come out to in MB for a 2hour 120minute movie?

Posted by: ChrisFB

Quote:

Originally posted by wolf55
how come some movies say they are 1.33:1 ratio they look the same as fullscreen 4:3 ratios to me and A1 doesn't have a 1.33:1 option I wonder if I use the 16:9/4:3 option if it would destort the image.

I'd spend a moment or too examining the 1.33:1 number and the 4:3 number. I'm betting it already came to you.

Transform the 4:3 ratio so that the base is 1 i.e. X:1. Reduce 3 to 1 and then divide 4 by 3 (thus transforming it into an X:1. It works out to 1.33:1.

Posted by: wolf55

How much free harddrive space do you need I was reading the the A1 read me file and it only mentions a need og 800mb!!! So 2to3gbs should be more than okay right?

And sorry about your mpx I greive for your loss, btw was the camera on it better than the mpx220 or same frustrating camera type?

peace

Posted by: wolf55

about the 4:3 = 1.33:1 I figured it would be something like that but I was to lazy to go thru the cobwebs in my head to do the division, plus I though that the movies studios would have automatically reduced it to the lowest fraction but I guess they wanted full numbers

but think about this

16:9 reduces down to 4:3 but obliously it does not produce the same picture so maybe the 1.33:1 does not equal 4:3

owwww my head is spinning

Posted by: wolf55

Okay it the Wolf man reporting back:
First let me say I am a Noob when it comes to Dvd ripping and encoding so much so that I purchase DVD2Moblie just so that it could do all the work for me with the press of a button.

Though this produced satisfactor avi files it didn't give you any custmization and did not fully use my mpx220 full potential.

Now the method below did and it all mostly free too:

Before i start let me tell you that most of this method came from the genius who posts here Kherm1 _____ so much love and props to him for all his help.

#2-- Let me stress that with patience and preserverance you too can be encoding great quality dvds within an 15 minutes or so.

Trust me if I can do it anyone can.

Here Goes:
SOftware Needed:
1. A1 Dvd Ripper Standard (freedownload only lets you encode 50% of the Movie)
2.Betaplayer (free, new version is 0.5 thats the one I used for this test)
3.PocketDivxencoder

First thing is that my encounter with A1 was quite unpleasant for the first hor or so.........it was sooooooooo buggy, anytime I tried to convert straight to avi it froze and wouldn't work so I stress leaveing everything at default except for the things I tell you you can change. Understood?! Good here are the settings.

A1 DVD RIPPER professional

Output Format Setting

VCD (MPEG1)
Video Bitrate:1150 kbits (between 650 and 1150)

Audio Bitrate: 224
Motion seach precision: Normal (fast)

Frame Rate: 29.97 (NTSC) gives you a much more smooth flowing picture than the default 23.976 (NTSC) setting
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Advance setting

Audio settings:
Volume: 5

Quality:
Nolmal Quality 48.0KHZ To 44.1KHz

Temporarily buffer:
Size(MB): 10 Location: Ram

Deinterlace Filter:
None

Zoom:
Full (16/9 or 4/3 input)

Split Mode:
Custom size 730MB

DeCSS Key:
Each VOB ID

Optimization:
MMX (Intel P2 , AMD K-6) Now I know most of use are using Pentium 2, I have a pentium 3 laptop, but don't change this setting as it becomes buggy, but it could have just been the other settings I changed so who knows, to be safe leave it at default.

Now click convert, wait your hours till completion and find you file when it is done you gonna need it again as it is too big to be used in portable memeory cards.

Step 2

PocketDivXEncoder setting: Here are some tips.
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Open up (PocketDivXEncoder) and select ( PDA ) only!! YES PDA!

Input your file:
Name your Output:

Settings:

Video quality: 10

Audio quality: 2

Brightness: 0% (or as low as it goes I did my test coversion on deafult 6% and it lost too much of the colors for my taste + beta player lets you play with the brighness also if you rather chage it from your player like I would)

Saturation: 0%

Sound:0% Contrast 0%

Output dimension : 176 x 220 or 220 x 176 (doesn't really matter becuse you can rotate with betaplayer, I used 220 x176 just because I forgot which was which, to be safe use 176x220)

now select (Add to the list) and hit Encode all.

Beta player (.5 only) settings:
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Speed: 100%

View: Zoom: 100%
Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square
Orientation: Normal

Video: Video Driver:Raw FrameBuffer OR GDI

Audio: Quality: high
Audio Driver:Wave Output

Hit settings/Select Page/Player Now unselect (Auto pre rotate)

Now under Options Select Settings then Select (Select Page) again select Hot Keys. Now u need to set (Rotate by 90) to what ever button u want. And then rotate screen to whatever tickles your fancy.

Hope this helps

P.S. You should first do several test clips of about 1-4 minutes to see how it works for you because is not you be spending hours just to find out you ××××up somewhere along the way.

Somtimes there are audio video synce problems I didn't try ro rectfy this with the options in A1 or Pckdivx, cuz betaplayer has a a/v offset where you can gues how man milliseconds audio is behinf or in front of the video

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Posted by: jleecong

Quote:

Originally posted by wolf55
Output Format Setting

VCD (MPEG1)
Video Bitrate:1150 kbits (between 650 and 1150)

So you go from MPEG2 to MPEG1 (lossy codec) then convert from MPEG1 to AVI (another lossy codec)?

Posted by: wolf55

doesn't look lousy on my phone
plus it keeps the filesize wdown to reasonable levels

my 12 minute clip is 29.7 mb
great quality

but if you no more instead of flaming you should post how you do what you do or do you got nothing better to do than just flame those who are ACTUALLY trying to help.

Posted by: kherm1

Hello Mr.wolf55!! Sorry for everything, yesterday i was so busy.

Did you try dvd ripper yet? Also thanks you for explain everything to ours friends in howard.

Posted by: wolf55

yes I tried it and love it (well.... like it a lot) can you pm me the stuff to make it the full edition ssssshh just between you and me

Posted by: kherm1

Can you post same pic here?

I just want to see what it look like on you phone.

C PM

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Posted by: wolf55

well i don't think the movie I um.. copied would be approriate for this forum, plus I don't know how to take screen caps off of the mpx220, if you tell me how when i get a chance i'll encode some anime and post a pic or maybe apic of resident evil apocolypse.

Posted by: kherm1

Here are the screen caps you might want.

http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...roductId=117294

Posted by: wolf55

btw

C pic of the day
C PM

peace

Posted by: wolf55

my current homescreen tekken5's asuka

Posted by: jleecong

Quote:

Originally posted by wolf55
doesn't look lousy on my phone
plus it keeps the filesize wdown to reasonable levels

my 12 minute clip is 29.7 mb
great quality

but if you no more instead of flaming you should post how you do what you do or do you got nothing better to do than just flame those who are ACTUALLY trying to help.

Large if you ask me. A 1 hour clip will be about 150MB. But if you are happy with the quality to size that’s all that is important!

* EDIT *
After really reading your post you should be a little nicer. I posted what I use and the specs on page 2. I even posted 2 clips to show what my settings look like. No flaming just asking questions about your encoding methods.

Posted by: jleecong

Quote:

Originally posted by kherm1
Here are the screen caps you might want.

http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...roductId=117294

Personally I like ScreenShotSP. The trial doesn't expire.
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...xtSearch=screen

Posted by: wolf55

Oh I wasn't trying to be nasty on my behalf, cuz most of those weren't my settings I was just trying to adimently defend Kherm1's settings as both he and his settings have help me rather famously, and I did know that you posted the clips and how to's, but you were not making suggestions the last time around, you were just scoffing at mpeg1 and avi (btw isn't divx avi format also???!!!) But no hard feeling let start over!!

okay here is one thing I noticed with the pocketdivx encoder
when you go to advance options frame rate is very important, in the first movie I decoded I used frame rate 29.97 and it looked fabulous but in subsiquent movies they came out excessily choppy. After a little tinkering I found that the frame rate being too high was making them choppy so at times it is best to use the default or sometimes even less the 23.976 (but only in pockedivxencoder in A1dvdripper I suggest you still used the 29.97 frames per seconds).

Posted by: wolf55

oh btw the only problem that i have with my vid is that when there is fast motion I get this vertical line choppy break slightly noticably but annoying enough, any way to minimize this or make it floww completley smooth.

Posted by: wolf55

here is a horizontal screen cap pix for yall enjoyment

peaces

next pic up in a couple will be no other than the dave chapelle show boyzzz

Posted by: kherm1

WOW

Hello baby . I hope that not your girlfriend. LOL

Posted by: wolf55

I wish she was lol okay not girlfriend but shed be a great girltoy for a couple of years yowza!!

Posted by: self0

how much mb can take a movie? about 1 and half hour movie

thanks

Posted by: ffaridi1

150