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MPX-220 and bluetooth!
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Posted by: doogster

I have read ALL THE THREADS and I still can't get my MPX220 to ActiveSync to my home desktop PC. They see each other... I put in the code... the phone shows up in the MY BLUETOOTH devices.... I have it set up with Com3 for the incoming port... all is well... but ActiveSync can't find it! What am I doing wrong?

Posted by: bshadfan

here's my twist and how i got it to work for me..

so you already have it all set up and activesync should know that it needs to look for com1 and usb stuff and then com3..

so open activesync and do file>get connected..
then press next and it should start looking in com1.. now have you phone ready (go to activesync>menu and be ready to select connect with bluetooth).. as soon as activesync changes to looking for com3 press ok on your phone and it should connect

Posted by: doogster

you are NOT going to believe this... BUT I TRIED THAT! Seems logical... but still didn't connect

Posted by: bshadfan

does activesync actually ever say looking for com3?

if it doesn't its bluetooth settings.. if it does.. who knows.. haha..

maybe switch to discoverable if you have it on or on if you have it discoverable :/.. random

Posted by: doogster

yeah... it shows Com 3 - but says it can't find anything... and I have the incoming set to com 3 on the PC.. seems like it should just work... got to be something stupid!

Posted by: gacajun

You also have to inform your phone to use the bluetooth connection instead of the USB one. Navigate to the setup screen as follows

Start
ActiveSync
Menu
Options
PC Settings
Menu
Advanced
Down
Action button (Center blue one)

This will show you available connections for ActiveSync. If you have your bluetooth set up correctly you should see "USB" and "Bluetooth AS". Choose Bluetooth AS. Then go back to the first screen in ActiveSynch and press connect.

Posted by: doogster

OK... so maybe we're on to something here - I followed those steps and I only have USB - no bluetooth showing in that window... so how do I add the bluetooth on the phone so that it shows up there?

One thought: I tried the above steps before I went to work today and my home PC was off... is this setting I'm looking at by following your steps PHONE settings or PC settings? If its reading something from the PC then I would have to do this again when I get home and turn the PC bluetooth on.

Please let me know.

Posted by: gacajun

Quote:

Originally posted by doogster
OK... so maybe we're on to something here - I followed those steps and I only have USB - no bluetooth showing in that window... so how do I add the bluetooth on the phone so that it shows up there?

One thought: I tried the above steps before I went to work today and my home PC was off... is this setting I'm looking at by following your steps PHONE settings or PC settings? If its reading something from the PC then I would have to do this again when I get home and turn the PC bluetooth on.

Please let me know.

You have to make sure that your phone has been "discovered" by you PC and you put in the same access code on both your phone and your computer. After you've done that, navigate as I had detailed before but when you first open Activesynch uses the Connect Using Bluetooth so that your phone then realizes it has a bluetooth connection to Activesynch. Of course it won't connect but it does something. After doing that you need to navigate down to the location of my previous post and activate the Bluetooth AS choice. This choice will only be availabe to you once you have completely set up your phone's bluetooth service.

Posted by: doogster

Its definately discovered by the PC... I put the code in for both and I can see the bluetooth device (from the PC I can see the smartphone and on the MPX220 I can see the desktop)... my ONLY problem is ActiveSync won't work.

Posted by: doogster

OK... I'm home from work - and there is no option as you list above... it only says USB - there is no bluetooth when I go to that PC screen....

But everything else appears to be right... now what?

Posted by: clavo

I have the exact same problem. It only shows USB. I can connect through BT and use the phone as a BT modem for dialup just fine. Works Great! I just can't get the MPX220 to show anything but USB in activesync list :| Any ideas?

-c

Posted by: doogster

someone out there must know what to do - especially if you and I have the identical problem... anyone?

Posted by: jforget1

Quote:

Originally posted by doogster
someone out there must know what to do - especially if you and I have the identical problem... anyone?

I am having the same problem as well. They just can't seem to find each other.

Posted by: ngambek2003

I had the same problem too for a while and then somehow I did something to fix it.

So my bluetooth on my pc was listening on COM6, and 7 for incoming connections.

Connection settings on activesync on the pc gives me a list of COM1 to 7 to choose from. However all of them are listed as not available (right under the selection box).
Then I click on "Get connected". Com 3 to 7 becomes available. Selected COM 6. I tried to connect from my MPX220. Still can't. Then I remove COM 7 from the bluetooth on my pc. Tried again and this time it connected. Have had no problem since. Hope this helps.

Posted by: doogster

I can't have an outgoing connection.... it tells me it can't find any devices... so I only have an incoming... is this part of the problem?

Posted by: MissionMan

I had the same problem on my imate sp3. I did make a couple of early mistakes like not setting the device to sync via bluetooth on the phone, but once i cleared them up it still would not see the phone in sync. The weird part was, after I retried doing the "get connected" about 10 times, suddenly it now see's the device and there is absolutely no difference to the phone or pc so no idea why. At least I know its not an IDtenT error.

Posted by: doogster

The thing that kills me is the PC and phone see each other and have discovered each other... really, the only thing that doesn't work is ActiveSync!

Posted by: jkAtlanta

I am having the same problem as doogster.

I have paired up my MPX220 and Dell Laptop, even sent files to the MPX over Bluetooth.

However, I cannot complete the AS connection. I also DO NOT have a choice on the phone to enable PC sync on "Buetooth AS" the only available choice is USB.

I am on Cingular, and I'm beginning to believe they have crippled something on the MPX (i.e. no SPP?). But I'm a Bluetooth newbie and I'm in over my head.

This should be very easy, yet I've blown 3 days trying to get it to work.

Anyone here who is doing Bluetooth ActiveSync with a Cingular branded MPX220, please speak up.

Did u buy some extra data connectivity kit or something? Where is the SPP? Can you only enable "Bluetooth AS" after you have already done it?

Just to be complete, while I can browse the internet from the MPX220, I CANNOT use the phone as a modem at all (not a USB Modem, not a Bluetooth modem) even though from the laptop it all looks setup correctly.

Help...

Posted by: Omega2008

I have a cingular branded MPx 220 and i got activesync to work via bluetooth. To get it to work you need to free up a COM port that is low like 1,2,3,4,5. Mine is at 5

If your COM ports are high, delete all your modems accept the one you use if your using dial up, and all network adapters accept the one you are using, delete all bluetooth parings that have a COM port, uninstall your bluetooth drivers, unplug your bluetooth usb dongle, restart your computer, plug the dongle back in, install your drivers, re-pair your phone.

After you pair you phone with your computer you can go to your bluetooth seetings and look at the COM port that bluetooth serial is on. then go to activesync select file, then connection setting and check the box next to "Allow serial cable or Infared connection to this COM port" select the COM port that the bluetooth serial port is on.

On your phone goto start, activesync, menu, connect via bluetooth. ActiveSync will start automatically and sync with your computer.

Hope this helps

Posted by: Omega2008

http://www.mpx200.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7067

Go here, I made a simple tutorial that you can use if you use cingular.

Hope that helps you out

Posted by: doogster

Mine is using Com 3 - and it still doesn't work.

Posted by: Omega2008

What bluetooth drivers to you have installed? I have the standard ones that came with SP2 i don't think they are WIDCCOM

Posted by: doogster

Mine are the ones that came with windows XP2... I did not load any drivers - it found the driver itself... The bluetooth adapter did not come with a driver's disk.

Posted by: Omega2008

Hmmmm.....thats strange. When you select the COM port in ActiveSync, does it say its available? Also, in Device Manager do you see the "Standard Serial over Bluetooth Link" under COM Ports? If so, is the COM port 3 like you said?

Posted by: doogster

Yes it is.... everything looks like it should be working... but its not. Today I received my bluetooth headset and it connects and works just fine.... so frustrating!

Posted by: Omega2008

I know!! its flusterating that it worked for me and not you and we are using the same bluetooth drivers! Hmmmm.....could be a faulty registry key but I wouldn't even know where to look for that. My only suggestion to you is to uninstall the bluetooth COM port and deleting your pairing with your phone, and your bluetooth drivers, restart and install everything again starting with the bluetooth drivers. Make sure your running ActiveSync 3.8 and heck before you do all of that, try uninstalling and reinstalling ActiveSync maybe that will fix the problem. if you do all of that and it still won't work then I am stumped lol, then again it could be the phone, and a master reset could fix the problem if it is the phone and if that is something you are willing to do. Also before you uninstall everything, and if you have one, try disabling your firewall and try to sync, don't know if a firewall will have anything to do with a COM port but is worth a try before uninstalling everything! Oh and one more thing, it could be your bluetooth dongle but i don't think it is but it could be......

Posted by: doogster

My activesync is v3.7... do you think that matters?

Posted by: Omega2008

Not sure but it wouldn't hurt to upgrade it to 3.8 and try syncing before you go and do any other troubleshooting.

Posted by: doogster

F-ing software! Upgraded to 3.8 - unloaded drivers - rebooted - reloaded everything... re-paired the phone and computer... ActiveSync still can't find it! I'm going to bed.

Posted by: Omega2008

Wow thats crazy! well we tried but I know it has to be something. I will go over everything i did and make sure that i didn't leave anything out. Oh, when you try to sync from the phone, ( you do know you have to under activesync in the phone, select menu, then sync via bluetooth) does the phone and or the computer give you any error messages? OHHH i know this sounds silly but i made this mistake before, make sure that you have bluetooth on your computer in discoverable mode. I will continue to work it out and see if anything else will work.

Posted by: Omega2008

try adding a new bluetooth com port.

right click on the bluetooth icon on the taskbar, select Open Bluetooh Settings, in the dialog box that appears select the COM ports tab, and click the add button. If it lets you add another COM port and its a low number, try setting activesync to that COM port and try syncing.

For all others that may read this, to set your bluetooth COM port:

Open ActiveSync, click file, Connection Settings, put a check beside "Allow Serial cable or infared connection to this COM port:, then select the COM port that was listed for your device in Bluetooth Settings. make sure Status: says "COM Port Available"

Posted by: doogster

Is there a reason I can only add an incoming Com port - one that can connect TO the computer.. . rather than letting the PC find the phone? When I try to add an outgoing com port... it searches but says it can't find any devices.

Posted by: Omega2008

The COM port needs to be incomming because your phone initalizes activesync via bluetooth not your computer.

Posted by: doogster

Then why am I running this stupid CONNECT NOW software (ActiveSync) at all? And it sits there and goes through the ports making this sound like the bionic man used to make... maybe I should ONLY be trying to connect from the phone?

Posted by: Omega2008

yes to intialize a bluetooth activesync one must do it from the phone

Start, ActiveSync, Menu, options

under Use: select the name of your computer that you bonded with the phone

click Done, Done again, then click Menu, Connect Via Bluetooth and Voila it works!!! activesync on your computer will start up and it will start to sync

Posted by: doogster

You are NOT going to believe this. This morning - I put in my bluetooth adapter - and this time - for the first time - I didn't try to connect from the computer to the phone - only from the phone to the computer - and it worked!!!! Thank you for all your help!

Posted by: Omega2008

Quote:

Originally posted by Omega2008
I have a cingular branded MPx 220 and i got activesync to work via bluetooth. To get it to work you need to free up a COM port that is low like 1,2,3,4,5. Mine is at 5

If your COM ports are high, delete all your modems accept the one you use if your using dial up, and all network adapters accept the one you are using, delete all bluetooth parings that have a COM port, uninstall your bluetooth drivers, unplug your bluetooth usb dongle, restart your computer, plug the dongle back in, install your drivers, re-pair your phone.

After you pair you phone with your computer you can go to your bluetooth seetings and look at the COM port that bluetooth serial is on. then go to activesync select file, then connection setting and check the box next to "Allow serial cable or Infared connection to this COM port" select the COM port that the bluetooth serial port is on.

On your phone goto start, activesync, menu, connect via bluetooth. ActiveSync will start automatically and sync with your computer.

Hope this helps

Well I did mention that you have to sync via bluetooth by your phone but I am guessing you were so flusterated that you over looked it lol, its cool it happends i would of probably done the same thing but the good thing is.....it works!!!! yay!!!!!! Glad to be of some help!

Posted by: doogster

Part of the puzzle was (I think) this time when I turned on my phone's bluetooth - when I went into ActiveSync on the phone - I tried to sync and it still would not. I then went into the options and for the first time I saw not only the USB but the bluetooth option... and it just worked after that. Now that I have that working AND my bluetooth headset working - does anyone know how leaving bluetooth on all the time on the phone will affect the battery life? I read in another post that some people were complaining about the short batt life when they had an SD card in and the bluetooth was on.

Posted by: Omega2008

I run bluetooth on the 220 all day with a miniSD card and with normal usage and the battery lasts all day with more than half the battery left. When actually using the headset then the battery drains faster and usually I have one or two bars of battery life after a days use.

Can anyone else comment on there battery life? lol I think me and doogster are like the only ones that read this post ...lol

By the way doogster,

Did you ever try to use your mpx220 as a bluetooth modem? I got mine to work fairly well and was wondering if your or anyone else reading got theres to work too and maybe any tips or tricks they used to get it done?

Posted by: jkAtlanta

Quote:

Originally posted by doogster
Part of the puzzle was (I think) this time when I turned on my phone's bluetooth - when I went into ActiveSync on the phone - I tried to sync and it still would not. I then went into the options and for the first time I saw not only the USB but the bluetooth option... and it just worked after that. Now that I have that working AND my bluetooth headset working - does anyone know how leaving bluetooth on all the time on the phone will affect the battery life? I read in another post that some people were complaining about the short batt life when they had an SD card in and the bluetooth was on.

I finally got my BT ActiveSync to work this morning. Following all of the instructions here did not close the deal. A comment on another forum caught my eye, and I think I have found A BIG part of the puzzle.

When you follow all of the instructions on this thread relative to comm ports etc, you may still end up with a phone setting that appears to only allow a USB sync connection. That was my status.

At this point. Remove the Bluetooth device that is pointing at your computer, and add a new device for it. This is when the "magic" will happen. Apparently, if you start life off with a USB connection to your computer you are stuck there until you delete the device from your phone and add it back.

I hope this helps. It certainly helps explain to me why so many people are having such a hard time doing something that should be so brain-dead simple...

john k

Posted by: doogster

No - I haven't tried it as a modem - I have a cable modem with a router for my home machines and laptop - so I really don't need that function... I also don't have any data services... so it might cost me more than I'm willing to pay for a trial run :-)

Posted by: jkAtlanta

Quote:

Originally posted by Omega2008
I run bluetooth on the 220 all day with a miniSD card and with normal usage and the battery lasts all day with more than half the battery left. When actually using the headset then the battery drains faster and usually I have one or two bars of battery life after a days use.

Can anyone else comment on there battery life? lol I think me and doogster are like the only ones that read this post ...lol

By the way doogster,

Did you ever try to use your mpx220 as a bluetooth modem? I got mine to work fairly well and was wondering if your or anyone else reading got theres to work too and maybe any tips or tricks they used to get it done?

Can you post your settings? I have been unable to use the MPX as a modem with BT or USB. I can get to the internet from the browser on the phone though...

john k

Posted by: Omega2008

Here is a link to a post I made in another forum, hopeuflly this helps.

http://www.mpx200.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7067

Posted by: jkAtlanta

Quote:

Originally posted by Omega2008
Here is a link to a post I made in another forum, hopeuflly this helps.

http://www.mpx200.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7067

Your other post was perfect. I can now use BT and USB modem connections to tether a laptop to Cingular. Thanks.

For anyone lurking:

The "keys to the Cingular kingdom", or at least using your SmartPhone with them as a modem, are:

Modem | Advanced Properties | Extra initialization command:

+CGDCONT=1,"IP","WAP.CINGULAR"

(other sources had incorrectly stated that a trailing ",0,0" was essential. This is false.)

Then in your dial-up settings:

User name = WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM
Password = CINGULAR1
Dial Number= *99# (not all the other variants...)

Thanks for your help.

john k

Posted by: Tulsatime

All, I am having great difficulty getting the Activesynch to set up a BT com port less than COM11. How do I get AS to cooperate? I have a Ambicom BT dongle, W2K, MPX220. Thanks!

Posted by: IRONLUNG

yes, yes....I too I'm trying....unistalled bt, reinstalled, changed ports, got everything up and running again....paired w/ com, made the appropriate changes....as I try to sync, I get 'must establish partnership...'? I'm stumped.

Posted by: Omega2008

You have to establish a partnership first before you BT activesync. Connect your phone via the cable and create a partnership and set select the right COM Port. Then try again.

Posted by: IRONLUNG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega2008

You have to establish a partnership first before you BT activesync. Connect your phone via the cable and create a partnership and set select the right COM Port. Then try again.

Ahhhh.....here lies my dilemma.....I Have No Cable!

Posted by: Omega2008

Your going to have to get one before you BT ActiveSync.

Posted by: IRONLUNG

Yes. I have one en route. I was hoping that there was a way around it. Hopefully, once I get it, I'll be able to AS and update the ROM as well(iknowineedacableforthis)....
Thanks OMEGA.