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Treo 650??? Or What???? HELP
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Posted by: RazrKasem

I am killing myself trying to decide on which smart phone to get?? I want something with the highest speed internet access possible, QWERTY keyboard, Bluetooth, SD, alot of Memory,High resolution screen 265k colors. And not too heavy and smallest possible with all these features.

Can anyone kick some suggestions my way???
I was considering Treo 650 for Cing. I love the camera and video options!

thank you !

Posted by: exander

I'm in the same boat.

Posted by: got hacks?

nokia 9500 if you need wlan. if not either motorola a925 or a1000.

4 the a925 or a1000 you gotta decide on what looks better

Posted by: SuzzyP

Hey what is a good site to view these phone options your talking about???? I am curious to see what these phones look like and see what their respective features are.

Posted by: brightcell

I had the Treo 650 on Cingular and T-Mobile .... I returned it.
Too many bugs for now.
It's simply not ready for primetime.

In few months after few updates/upgrades, I will be probably the best Smartphone around.

Posted by: SuzzyP

Yea i think the 650 is not quite ready as well. I see alot of issues with the phone. Although some have no real problems with it, or have been able to fix things on their own. I think i may wait until summer at some point to test the waters on the Treo..... A BB would probably suffice for me until it's Treo time.

Posted by: SuzzyP

Hey i just went onto the Cingular website to see if any of the phones that Got Hacks had mentioned they were carrying. I noticed that they have removed the 650 from the webpage as a phone that they carry. They now only show the 600..... interesting..... the SIM card issue must be a real problem for them to pull the phone.

Posted by: RazrKasem

I returned my Treo 650 too
It is garbage, the only thing that WAS good was the BT Link for the car, but you need a Fix for that too,,,,

Not worth the 600 Smackers

I wish I could get a patent and the FCC to approve my ideas.
lol

Posted by: CowboyNYC

PalmOne botched the Treo 650:

-Made a deal with Sprint for exclusive roll out.

-After many delay's when it was finaly available PalmOne raised the price after claiming a "mistake" after 2 days of GSM roll out

-Very high SAR rating

-The 650 is a update of the 600 BUT PalmOne still continues to use it old outdated OS, even when PalmSource has Cobalt ready to go. Imagine a new Treo with a OS which isn't 2 years behind other manufactures

-No WIFI

-DUN

Palm is way behind the pocket pc. Palm needs to hit a home run and do the best it can for its customers, but instead Palm is making exclusive deals with providers. Worse there has been no innovation from Palm in years.

The high SAR rating is the big deal breaker for me. There is no way I will use a phone with a SAR rating so close to the legal limit. On CNET it's on the SAR top ten, ranked as #6 at 1.51 (1.6 and your phone is not going to get FCC approval)

So to keep with the thread...

Smartphone Suggestions?

Siemens SX66,
Nokia 6620,
RIM BB 7100G,
Asus P505,
Samsung i730,
HP HW6700,
Nokia 7710,

I am agree with the saying "it aint a smartphone, without a alpa-numeric" SMS, and email is just stupid with any other current method.

Posted by: tartis

I had the Treo 650 and returned it under the Sprint 14 day policy. It was a great PDA (much better than Microsoft Smartphone 2003), but it sucked as a phone. If you have any background noise while talking, all of your words get cut off. Everybody kept asking if I was talking on a speaker phone.

I switched to the Samsung SPH-i600 from Sprint. It came with Microsoft Smartphone 2003, but the OS is lacking. Most of the Microsoft apps really suck and need to be replaced by 3rd party apps.

My advice about the Treo 650 is to try it if you hyave some way to return it if it does not meet your requirements. It was also difficult to dial numbers while driving without crashing my car. There is also no voice dial feature out of the box.

Recap: Great PDA...Poor phone.

Posted by: SuzzyP

Hey Tartis, were you using the BT earpiece when you were talking or just the phone itself?

Just curious

Posted by: tartis

Using the earpiece was the problem. I used a wired headset and everyone said that it sounded clear. I really wanted to keep the device, but I need to use the phone too often to have audio problems.

Posted by: SuzzyP

Maybe the BT headset was the problem...... ????? i have heard that there are some that really suck and others that are excellent.... which model did you use?

Posted by: tartis

Quote:

Originally posted by SuzzyP
Maybe the BT headset was the problem...... ????? i have heard that there are some that really suck and others that are excellent.... which model did you use?

I did not use a Bluetooth headset. I had a problem while talking without any headset. A wired headset worked great.

Posted by: RazrKasem

Ok Bottom Line is.............

Treo 650 is a waste of EVERYTHING !!!
The folk at Palm One need to go back to the drawing boards and actually make something they call NEW. That 650 is a 600 with nothing but Issues !!! I prefer the 600 over this even.

Which is why I returned it !
its J U N K

Posted by: brightcell

Ok, I won't say it's junk but the device has definitely some serious issues....that's why I returned it.

The design is really good and it's very fonctional as a Smartphone unfortunately the phone part is really lacking.
I agree; they should have included the latest OS ...but who knows, the situation could have been even worse (with a new and untested OS).

CowboyNYC, the very high SAR rating is only for the CDMA version.

SuzzyP, I tried it with a BT Jabra headset and a wired one and it was acceptable but not amazing.... but 99% of the time I don't use them so I couldn't deal with that low volume issue.
And if you wish to compare PDA & Smartphone, go there:

http://davespda.com/resources/compare/index.htm

I guess I will be waiting for the Treo 700 or whatever it will be called or even maybe a 650 when everything will be resolved and the price half of what it is now.

In the mean time, back to my SE T610 and iPaq 4150 duo

Posted by: brightcell

I like the i-mate JAM.
Tried an unlocked version with my T-Mobile SIM and the volume was really good meaning high (not like the

) and the call quality was good and clear.

I loved the size but I must say that Palm OS seems better to integrate the phone part with the PDA and I was missing the keyboad very much.

Posted by: CowboyNYC

Quote:

Originally posted by brightcell
CowboyNYC, the very high SAR rating is only for the CDMA version.

Nope its the GSM version, thats what is so strange... (the very high SAR)

Check out the Cnet top ten. It jives with the FCC SAR ratings too.

The ultra-high SAR rating just is another fact in a long list that the 650 wasn't even close to being as good as it should be. Sad that PalmOne is giving the market to the pocketpc phones, at one time Palm was the best.... that time has past.

Posted by: brightcell

My bad CowboyNYC, you are right.

Weird because it was discussed on Treocentral and I thought it was the CDMA version.
Oh well.... another reason to return it.

P1 is giving me an hard time to send me the RMA# ... first they told me they sent it by email (never got it) so now, they will mail via USPS (prepaid return label).

I am back to my phone/PDA duo and amazingly, everything seems so much easier.

It's really sad to see P1 screwing up so bad for this new release.

Posted by: AaronT

Have you considered the Sony Ericsson P910a?

Looking at the specs, you won't think that it's that amazing but it's a very neat little package.

It's got a 262k colour screen, good bluetooth support, GPRS support, mini QWERTY keyboard, Memory Stick support up to 1GB, an MS-compatible office suite, Opera web-browser and the best handwriting recognition I've ever seen. More than that, it's reliable, well-built and has great battery life for a device of it's type (16 hours quoted talk-time!).

The flip is a very innovative feature. If you're walking down the street, then the closed-flip still allows you to use the device like a regular phone (i.e. one-handed) - a feature missing off nearly all PDA-phones. I'm surprised that more companies haven't copied it.

Being a Sony product, it looks very stylish too.