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Posted by: Shihx79

Hello guys,

I bought a japanese sharp 902sh mistakening thinking it would be as easy to unlock as the V802SE.....

I duno if i can ask unlocking related questions in the forum but I really need some help if anyone know any ways to unlock the japanese 902SH....

Much appreciated



Posted by: howing

nobody knows how to unlock it yet..sorry. keep waiting.. someone will find out soon~



Posted by: Shihx79

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Originally posted by howing
nobody knows how to unlock it yet..sorry. keep waiting.. someone will find out soon~


Lets hope so....



Posted by: zaku

i'd like to know this too... anywhere who does unlock that phone?



Posted by: ofiaich

Vodafone Japan admit that they can unlock, then they make it clear that they will not.

But there are people out there in the know..

It is worth looking at www.esato.com because there are many genius's there as well as here

I will post this question there.. and see what can be found.

Ofiaich



Posted by: Timsta

yah.. you can unlock it via the imei.. how to do it.. not to sure.. thats all i know so far. u thinkin of this phone too ofiach?



Posted by: wyotin

We are going to send out the Sharp 902 to the programmer to crack it for us. If it can be done, we will let you know.

Yours truly,
wyotin / www.GSMPhone-Unlocking.com



Posted by: ofiaich

Thanks wyotin and Timsta

I did have a Sharp 902sh and pictures can be seen within this forum

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...15&pagenumber=1

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yah.. you can unlock it via the imei.. how to do it.. not to sure.. thats all i know so far. u thinkin of this phone too ofiach?

Yes, I did have the phone but returned it because Vodadrap had disabled the settings for email- IMAP POP so no extra accounts could be added.

Easy to unlock! Just phone vodafone and ask for the code and pay 20 pounds BUT I wanted a Japanese one.

The UK model did display Japanese and could send to and receive mail from Japan on Japanese but input had to be in Romaji.

I is hard to ask a friend to take out a contract and get one for me.

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We are going to send out the Sharp 902 to the programmer to crack it for us. If it can be done, we will let you know.

Good luck! As I typed before, Vodafone Japan eventually admit they can unlock it but refuse to do so.

It was so frustrating... I also posted here and over at Esato if people had the same indepth knowledge as it seems people have about S-E phones, but there was not much of a response to that!


Thanks

Ofiaich



Posted by: wyotin

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Originally posted by ofiaich Good luck! As I typed before, Vodafone Japan eventually admit they can unlock it but refuse to do so.

It was so frustrating... I also posted here and over at Esato if people had the same indepth knowledge as it seems people have about S-E phones, but there was not much of a response to that!

Thanks

Ofiaich [/B]


We are in the unlocking business, therefore, we are trying to do get the programmer to work on this phone. We already spoke to them and they are willing to give it a try.

Sharp 902 UK version is can be unlocked by IMEI.

Of cause Japan Vodafone can easily unlock any of their phones. This doesn't mean that other programmer can't do it. Each new project cost a lot of money and time.

The programmer is not going to just try to work for a solution for just 1 phone. They have to come up with some solution that work for other model as well.

Any way, to make the story short. We are sending out the Sharp 902 to them for FREE so they can try to do it. The phone is be giving to the programmer for FREE even if it doesn't work out.

This project can take some time and hope that the phone is not going to be out dated soon.



Posted by: ofiaich

Hi wyotin!

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We are in the unlocking business, therefore, we are trying to do get the programmer to work on this phone. We already spoke to them and they are willing to give it a try.

Thats great news!



Posted by: ofiaich

Hi wyotin!

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We are in the unlocking business, therefore, we are trying to do get the programmer to work on this phone. We already spoke to them and they are willing to give it a try.

Thats great news!

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Sharp 902 UK version is can be unlocked by IMEI.

Yes, but they could not unlock a Japanese phone.

And even if I unlocked a UK 902sh, Sharp Europe made it clear I would not be able to put Japanese firmware on it because the handset is 'Country locked' prior to the firmware being flashed.

The moderators for some unknown reson remoed the orginal thread....

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...threadid=565953

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Of cause Japan Vodafone can easily unlock any of their phones. This doesn't mean that other programmer can't do it. Each new project cost a lot of money and time.

Yep, I understand that totally. You folks and some folk over at Esato do amazing things!

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The programmer is not going to just try to work for a solution for just 1 phone. They have to come up with some solution that work for other model as well.

The programmer is not going to just try to work for a solution for just 1 phone. They have to come up with some solution that work for other model as well.

Any way, to make the story short. We are sending out the Sharp 902 to them for FREE so they can try to do it. The phone is be giving to the programmer for FREE even if it doesn't work out.

This project can take some time and hope that the phone is not going to be out dated soon.


Yes, I wondered if this had been achieved because there are many models of Sharp.

I am very interested! I liked the Sharp 902sh very much, but Vodafone do limit the firmware! I would have kept that phone if it had the email capabilities of the S-E K700i, but with receiving and sending in Japanese!

I will keep a close eye here for your progress! ... Good luck!!!!

Ofiaich



Posted by: wyotin

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Originally posted by ofiaich
Hi wyotin!


Thats great news!


Our programmer is waitting for the phone to play around with. They will have to open up the phone and look inside. This will cost us 1 phone and money to get this project going.

If it can be done, we will be very busy for the whole month unlocking them.





Posted by: ofiaich

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This will cost us 1 phone and money to get this project going.


When they finished playing, please send me the phone and I will play with it!

I look forward to April 1st!... Good choice for a date iin the UK!

Of course, I am dreaming! ....

So would you ship an unlocked 902sh with Japanese firmware to the UK? I don't foresee any problems with voltage etc.... international these days, I think...

Ofiaich



Posted by: xumdeo

there're shops in hongkong that helps people unlocking v902SH jpn edition
but it costs between 600~800HKD (1USD=7.8HKD)

they only succeeded in unlocking the sim-card recognition
dial in dial out on 2G, no problem at all
but all the 3G functions remain locked

(in trad chinese here, a hkg forum)
http://board.phonehk.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=79



Posted by: ajamils

Maybe you guys should try contacting someone @ easycell.ca becuase I was talking with one of the guys there and he confirmed that they have all the 3 colors of 902 in stock and they are all UNLOCKED.

I don't know how true that is but for $1600 I'm not even interested in trying it out



Posted by: howing

ok.. i've got a new idea.
ofiachi san.. i'm going to have to be patient, but this is going to be the cheapest way to get a 902 unlocked!!
PM me...

i'm so glad HK'ers can do it. time to refresh my cantonese!!!



Posted by: wyotin

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Originally posted by ajamils
Maybe you guys should try contacting someone @ easycell.ca becuase I was talking with one of the guys there and he confirmed that they have all the 3 colors of 902 in stock and they are all UNLOCKED.

I don't know how true that is but for $1600 I'm not even interested in trying it out


They are selling the UK version NOT Japanese version. We are talking about the Japanese version here.

UK version can be unlocked by IMEI.



Posted by: ajamils

Quote:
Originally posted by wyotin
They are selling the UK version NOT Japanese version. We are talking about the Japanese version here.

UK version can be unlocked by IMEI.


UK version DOES NOT come in any other color other than white. But he confirmed that they have all three colors. So that can only be a japanese version.



Posted by: Takumi_Inui

If they can do this, I wouldn't mind buying this handset in Japan in May and head to HK to unlocked it since I'm going on a trip this summer. I hope it can be done. The 3G functions don't really matter since I can't use them here anyways.



Posted by: AL9999

Yeah I'd like to know how Easycell.ca got a hold of the grey and orange ones and managed to unlock them... considering only the white one is sold in Europe and the orange and grey ones are restricted to Japan, I'd like to know just what's going on here.



Posted by: howing

takumi, do you have residence in japan? if you don't, you will not be able to buy a mobile in japan.
also, the three colours are available in UK spec! it's slowly coming out. i saw someone with a black 902 the other day on the tube... i was positive it was a UK version. just like the 802se, they're slowly rolling out the white one in addition to the black one released in the UK a while ago... it is coming... and don't get misleaded by people selling the 902's... they say it's 902sh, but it's not! 902SH means the japanese version, whilst the Sharp 902 is the UK version. to lure people to buy their UK version 902's, they just advertise their 902's as "japanese edition".... with the intention of saying this is "a cool japanese phone that works outside in Japan".

the easiest to see is the keypad. if it doesn't have hiragana on it, then it's UK spec. even if they do change the keypad, just look at the menu. the UK menu is based on voda's cheesy red and silver scheme (and is uncustomisable). the japanese spec is changeable, and it's animated like that of the PS2 start-up display... you will NOT want the UK spec 902 after you've seen the "real" 902SH. trust me.

-ryo. (phil)



Posted by: ajamils

Other than the menu...what other difference does the 902SH has ?



Posted by: AL9999

Heh, I'd love to compare the two side by side and see the differences...

So the other colours ARE coming out now eh? Just checked VF UK's website and they're only listing the white one still, despite the fact they now sell both black and white versions of the SE V800.

It's a bit late to be selling different colour versions right now anyway, most people who were desperate to buy a 902 in the UK would have bought one by now.



Posted by: Shihx79

So I got my Japanese 902SH today. OfCuz its locked but the good thing is that the seller included the japanese voda sim on it so I get access to the phone function which means it is at least not totally useless for now.

If someone can figure out ways to unlock this can turn into a really good business since there are so many people selling V802SE unlocked on ebay.



Posted by: ofiaich

Shihx79

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So I got my Japanese 902SH today.

Congrats! Where did you get it from and was it pricey?

Are there English and Japanese manuals on the CD?

Any possibility of you emailing them both to me?

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good thing is that the seller included the japanese voda sim

Oh! Is the sim not activated?

I would love to see some piccies, especially of the menu's in Japanese!

Hope you enjoy and can get it unlocked!

Ofiaich





Posted by: AL9999

Ofiaich,

http://k-tai.impress.co.jp/cda/arti..._top/22182.html

Has lots of screenshots of the Japanese 902SH. I watched a video review of it from the same website the other day and they showed the standard main menu on it, and it worked the same as the UK one... I'm guessing the themes you can change it over to would be the ones that are animated, I'd love to see some videos of that



Posted by: ofiaich

AL9999

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I watched a video review of it from the same website the other day and they showed the standard main menu on it, and it worked the same as the UK one...


Excellent! Thanks! Have you got a link for the video?

I will search for it too!

Ofiaich



Posted by: AL9999

Sure thing, the video is accessible from this page:

http://impress.tv/im/article/hkt.htm

Scroll down and you should see the one where they review the 902SH. It's under the date of the 15th February.

It's in the third part of the review that they show some quick video of the main menu and scrolling through it.



Posted by: ofiaich

thanks again!

Got them! The man certainly needs a 'pause button' in the middle of his forehead!....

I could get the general feel of what was said but a little too difficult for my ability !!

Thanks again!

Ofiaich



Posted by: AL9999

Well all he really said was what most Japanese have been saying about Vodafone's new 3G range, that they're good phones (fantastic in the 902SH's case) but they're impaired by Vodafone's standard user interface for them because the Japanese are used to the Japanese style user interfaces that virtually all phones have there. I think they're crying over silly things really, but that's their view.

But yeah, he speaks insanely fast. I can understand most of what he says but takes a lot of concentration He's apparently a pretty big mobile phone journalist over there, appearing on TV in programs and such...



Posted by: ofiaich

AL9999

thanks! I could get the same feeling, but had gaps...

Maybe it is because I speak a form of 日本語 called  レイモン語 !

( strange! Not sure if all of these characters are readable! )

This particular dialect is unusual in that, only I speak it, but the amazing thing is many of my friends understand it!

I have been playing with a S-E V800 but even if I re-flash it to Japanese, I get the strong feeling, that, with a UK Vodafone sim, it will not be able to receive and send email in Japanese.

I think there are no settings for email that the user can input...

so I think my best bet is to return it, and get the Sharp 902sh UK model. Then later, hope that Sharp and Vodafone make their phones have more language options. Fat Chance!

Ofiaich



Posted by: AL9999

Yeah Japanese doesn't display properly in this forum, it's a bit of a pain.

レイモン語... not quite sure what you mean by this one

While Sharp have made plenty of stupid mistakes with their phones they have shown committment before to having them fixed up, even if it takes them a long time to get through it. The GX30/GX30i is a good example... they implemented a Bluetooth function in the GX30 that only worked with headsets, and people complained and complained and complained about it being useless. After many months (almost a year) of anguish, they finally released the GX30i, which only fixed the Bluetooth (making it support data transfer) and added decent calendar entries. Also in the 902 they finally fixed up the abysmal T9 text entry support, making it faster and putting a proper custom word dictionary in, after two plus years of GX series phones with slow, unresponsive text entry.

I think in the case of Japanese language support they will see that there were quite a few of us who wanted it enabled and that disabling its selection in the European model was a stupid decision. The fact that Japanese font support is present in the European model proves that it could have been done, and I believe that the Keitai Shoin 3 software is even present in a deactivated state. I think that they were simply too lazy to implement Japanese menus for the European version because the Japanese version had too many references to Vodafone Japan (such as V-Appli instead of just Applications for Java games, for example). I think with the next version (903?) they will enable Japanese support. I'm certainly hoping so...



Posted by: ofiaich

I got to go out...

but can you give me your opinion on this -

I have been playing with a S-E V800 but even if I re-flash it to Japanese, I get the strong feeling, that, with a UK Vodafone sim, it will not be able to receive and send email in Japanese.

I think there are no settings for email that the user can input...

My reimon go... was my Christian name with 'go' added! I do not like レイモンド! だから レイモン語!

be back !

ofiaich



Posted by: AL9999

わかりました (^^)
I thought it might have been something to do with your name

As for the V800 I'm not too sure about it, but I think that firmware flashes will add Japanese capability to it and you'll be able to use it regardless of what SIM card you have. The SIM card has a language setting preset on it to tell the phone what language to default to if the language setting on the phone is set to "Automatic". You can easily override that though in the Language Settings though. So SIM card is no problem.

I'm not sure about the V800's case but if there is an email client, then you should be able to input settings for it. Vodafone Japan's keitai email service utilises MMS rather than built in email clients, so it's not related.



Posted by: ofiaich

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but if there is an email client, then you should be able to input settings for it.


That's the problem though... I don't think there is an email client, so I will have a V800 with an inability to send and receive mail.

I suppose I should try it and see...

Ofiaich



Posted by: AL9999

GSMArena seems to say that there is an email client... but then again you have the real thing, so you would know better than I do I haven't played with any Voda 3G phones because they aren't available here in Australia...



Posted by: ofiaich

Hi!

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GSMArena seems to say that there is an email client... but then again you have the real thing, so you would know better than I do I haven't played with any Voda 3G phones because they aren't available here in Australia...


There is certainly is an email client in the uk v800. I have set up an IMAP account and a POP account whilst the Vodafone.net account seems to use Vodafones 3G connection.... ( I am not up on that part. )

But I do not think there is in the Japanese firmware.

I was told within Howards Forums, in another thread, that the email is setup up 'in-store', the customer chooses a 4 digiti code, and the salesperson types in a chosen address.

This address can be changed by the customer by visiting their 'My Vodafone Japan' account.

I know I need to flash to Japanese to see for myself. But I am also thinking it is waste of time!....

I also think the 902 UK version has less email support than the UK V800 ! But I need to refresh myself on that!

Ofiaich



Posted by: AL9999

Yeah that's what I meant by keitai email, that's just the one using Vodafone JP's MMS service over there, you also get an email address that dynamically links into MMS, so that if you send/receive email it's all done through MMS. Something I wouldn't mind having here

Try going to www.sonyericsson.co.jp and downloading the manual for the 802SE (only available from the English page I think), and seeing if they talk about it in there.

Apparently the 902 UK version has email support but it has to go through Vodafone or something, not too sure about that one.



Posted by: ofiaich

Hi AL9999 !

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Try going to www.sonyericsson.co.jp and downloading the manual for the 802SE (only available from the English page I think), and seeing if they talk about it in there.

I will take a look. Loads of info on the Japanese Vodafone site about the different kinds of mail used with their different models!

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Apparently the 902 UK version has email support but it has to go through Vodafone or something, not too sure about that one.

Yes, I had used that. But could not see how to make a stand alone POP or IMAP account and link it to a landline number.

Maybe I will look harder for that.

Ofiaich



Posted by: ofiaich

Hi AL9999 !

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Try going to www.sonyericsson.co.jp and downloading the manual for the 802SE (only available from the English page I think), and seeing if they talk about it in there.

I will take a look. L

Update - can't find an English page! .... but I will keep looking. I have found the site index!

oads of info on the Japanese Vodafone site about the different kinds of mail used with their different models!

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Apparently the 902 UK version has email support but it has to go through Vodafone or something, not too sure about that one.

Yes, I had used that. But could not see how to make a stand alone POP or IMAP account and link it to a landline number.

Maybe I will look harder for that.

Ofiaich



Posted by: ofiaich

Hi Wyotin!!

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We are going to send out the Sharp 902 to the programmer to crack it for us. If it can be done, we will let you know.


How's it going with the 902sh? I hope success!

Ofiaich



Posted by: howing

hey ofiachi,
how's the 902 mission going? i'm thinking about getting a japanese 802se for now. then 902sh when i return to japan in oct (or a better one, who knows). do you know much about it?



Posted by: ofiaich

Hi ofiaich!

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how's the 902 mission going?


I am awaiting news about unlocking! I saw about te Tokyo site in these threads and want to see what that brings!

Wyotin's people also have one that they are working on!

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i'm thinking about getting a japanese 802se for now.


I am thinking too, but do not want to get one through E-bay or a Yahoo auction. I am hoping that a friend gets one on contract for me! I also wonder whether a Z800i flashed is 'cooler' than a copper 802se....mmmm, but keyboard would look good on 802se!!!

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then 902sh when i return to japan in oct (or a better one, who knows).

I hope to be in Japan, September or October...see you at Narita! Let me know what airline, who knows we might be on the same plane!

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do you know much about it?

I don't have new news.... but I will telephone the person who is responsible Programme Manager for Sharp 902 in Europe and Japan this Thursday or next week...

I will report back here!

Ofiaich



Posted by: howing

ofiachi san,

i might be back in japan a little earlier (in may) than expected, then back to the UK for a while, and return for good in oct. definitely, i'll let you know which airline i'm going on, most likely ANA or JAL, although VIRGIN is insanely cheap these days (and reliable). i will buy a mobile when i get there in may, and bring it back, hopefully to get it unlocked and working here... any requests?

i'm very new to the 802se scene actually. i don't know much about the difference between the flashed z800 or the 802se.. care to elaborate? i searched on the sonyericsson board and they don't discuss it much, only the s700 and the s710a (which are soooo passe!!)~~ hahaha!

i'm just getting a 802se because of it's price and its ease of unlock. i have to maintain the japanese input/receive in e-mails. that's my only request. it's such a hassle to type romaji everytime with the T9 telling me my spelling's wrong!

-phil



Posted by: ofiaich

Hi howing!

May! I am so jealous!!

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most likely ANA or JAL, although VIRGIN is insanely cheap these days (and reliable).

Yes, it's good to fly with a Virgin!

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i will buy a mobile when i get there in may, and bring it back, hopefully to get it unlocked and working here... any requests?

I would be interested to hear any info about the new Toshiba 902T!

Requests! Of course, I would love an unlocked 802se copper or an unlocked 902sh! I'm not doing so well with asking friends to investigate.

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i don't know much about the difference between the flashed z800 or the 802se.. care to elaborate?

I am not so sure either. I have read threads here that say what flashing to Z800i firmware does.

I hope someone who has a 802 and has flashed it to either V800 or Z800i can answer that for us!

Ofiaich



Posted by: cewong2

Heh,

I havn't visited these forums in a while! lol

Anyways My friend was in HK and I gave him my IMEI number for the 902SH (JP Ver.) He said that most of the people in HK said they could only unlock the UK ed. of the phone.

I'll be going back to HK and Japan in August most likely so I'll try again when I get there.

We'll see how it goes.

Oh I also had my GF search the Japanese Forums, and most of the Japanese peoplea are complaining about the phone being locked too, becuase apparently some of them want to use it on other networks! HAHAHAHAHA



Posted by: ofiaich

Hi cewong2,

I can unlock the uk 902 easily... just phone Vodafone, pay about 20 pounds and receive the code and instructions.

There are a few sites also offering!

Looking forward to your August postings with good news!

Ofiaich



Posted by: cewong2

yes, I know, we were experimenting to see if they would do the Japanese one remember? I gave you my IMEI for the JDM phone hahahahaha

I don' have the UK ver, only the JDM

<---- See phone list





Posted by: ofiaich

cewong2

I remember now! Brain must have got furred up with all of these going -ons!!

Ofiaich



Posted by: cewong2

I might check out the JDM V800SE (Sony phone) Dunno though.....

anyways I have plenty of time, I'm going back to HK and Japan in august.



Posted by: ofiaich

I am trying to get a copper 802se..... but things not going smoothly at the moment!

I might have to wait til I go to Japan.. August or September or October..... Hmmm....

Ofiaich



Posted by: cctw

I 'am bidding on a sharp 902 too..jap version

I saw on mobile tec website they can unlock 902sh..but they ask u to choose network..and there is not jap vodafone to choose..only UK..arghh...



Posted by: braindead5400

so why are you bidding on it if you can't unlock it?



Posted by: EMAGDNIM

For the hope of being able to unlock it soon...



Posted by: braindead5400

and if you can't?



Posted by: cctw

HK and Japan already hv ppl able to unlock the basic simlock already...it is possible..

however..it just costs expensive



Posted by: braindead5400

and you can't make calls





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