Push E-mail on Treo

Originally Posted by jdmass

If you are using your Treo in a Microsoft Exchange environment at work, then check out GoodLink (www.good.com )

I have used a Blackberry for the past few years, but Good out-blackberries Blackberry. It will fully sync email, calendar, contacts and notes over the air. It also integrates with Documents-To-Go to be able to view attachments in their original detail.

Blackberry only syncs email and calendar over the air. So with Good, basically the only time I need to hotsync the Treo is to install software or backup.

Jim

Originally Posted by koolaidman

GoodLink is expensive and an enterprise-level application. You will not be able to use this unless you have a dedicated server running Windows Server 2003 or similar, it's not for the casual user and/or small businesses.

blackberry connect for the treo should be available soon, hopefully:
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/smar...beta-032961.php

it enables blackberry-like services on your treo. there are many blackbery service hosting providers available so you don't need a server.

Originally Posted by jdmass

If you are using your Treo in a Microsoft Exchange environment at work, then check out GoodLink (www.good.com )

I have used a Blackberry for the past few years, but Good out-blackberries Blackberry. It will fully sync email, calendar, contacts and notes over the air. It also integrates with Documents-To-Go to be able to view attachments in their original detail.

Blackberry only syncs email and calendar over the air. So with Good, basically the only time I need to hotsync the Treo is to install software or backup.

Jim

Originally Posted by SuzzyP

Snappermail is currently working on a "push" type of delivery for their service. POP3 mail included in that .... It is in the Beta testing phase from what i understand.

www.snappermail.com

Originally Posted by nskgti23

Actually with the 4.0 release of the BES, blackberry is full wireless sync. The only thing Good offers currently that blackberry needs work on is document support (because blackberry sucks at viewing attachments)...

Originally Posted by howhao

BB doesn't support OTA upgrade. basically anything that has to deal with the ROM of the device, you have to cradle it...Goodlink is complete OTA and also can push our 3rd party software from the GoodLink server OTA, like an antivirus program or whatever.



you are correct, although intellisync is a far inferior solution.

Originally Posted by garlic bread

I may not be thinking this through enough - but as I understand it there is no true "push" email for the Treo - as is for the Blackberry. There are solutions to push your email at you - but you can only actually recieve it if you are "pulling" it with your Treo.

The Treo has to "be" connected - this is a manual (or automatic via timed intervals) operation. Unless I'm mistaken the Treo does not have an "always connected" mode like the Blackberry. So the best you could do is maybe have the Treo set to check mail every minute......of course if you do that and someone calls you while you are "checking" your email - it goes to voicemail - potentially creating other problems.

Originally Posted by LetsGoFlyers

Push e-mail on the Treo is very possible. If you connect to data when the phone is in service, you're always connected. That doesn't mean you're actively transmitting data, but you do have an open connection. Since I have unlimited data with Sprint, I always leave myself connected and I almost never miss calls from being online. The only thing that separates Blackberries from Treos in terms of e-mail is the software on the the unit and the kind of e-mail servers pushing the mail. You need two things, servers to push mail out to the unit whenever it arrives and software on the device to be actively listening for it. Think about SMS, it's received by the unit in a similar way. The phones are always listening for the SMS and when the network pushes it out to the unit, it's received immediately (barring any network or server issues). There are e-mail solutions out there that provide push e-mail for the Treo that is virtually identical to the Blackberry. I'm talking true push, not triggered or timed pulls. Sprint has the Business Connection powered by Good, but I didn't care for it. As scottb said, Verizon has Intellisync. I've never used it myself but I've heard it provides push functionality as well. Another way is with an IMAP4 account that supports the IDLE command. If you have an IMAP provider like this (and they're quite easy to come by) then you can use Chatter as your e-mail client abd get push e-mail. IMAP4 with IDLE support will push mail out once it's received and Chatter will be listening so long as you have signal. The data isn't always transferring, it's just listening and is ready to download. Once Chatter detects the signal it downloads the mail, exactly like a Blackberry does.

The only real difference between Blackberries and Treos when it comes to push e-mail is that Treos don't support it out of the box, Blackerries do. It's a common misconception that if you want true push e-mail so you can get mail instantly, you need a Blackberry. That was true for a long time but it simply isn't the case anymore.

Originally Posted by LetsGoFlyers

Push e-mail on the Treo is very possible. If you connect to data when the phone is in service, you're always connected. That doesn't mean you're actively transmitting data, but you do have an open connection. Since I have unlimited data with Sprint, I always leave myself connected and I almost never miss calls from being online. The only thing that separates Blackberries from Treos in terms of e-mail is the software on the the unit and the kind of e-mail servers pushing the mail. You need two things, servers to push mail out to the unit whenever it arrives and software on the device to be actively listening for it. Think about SMS, it's received by the unit in a similar way. The phones are always listening for the SMS and when the network pushes it out to the unit, it's received immediately (barring any network or server issues). There are e-mail solutions out there that provide push e-mail for the Treo that is virtually identical to the Blackberry. I'm talking true push, not triggered or timed pulls. Sprint has the Business Connection powered by Good, but I didn't care for it. As scottb said, Verizon has Intellisync. I've never used it myself but I've heard it provides push functionality as well. Another way is with an IMAP4 account that supports the IDLE command. If you have an IMAP provider like this (and they're quite easy to come by) then you can use Chatter as your e-mail client abd get push e-mail. IMAP4 with IDLE support will push mail out once it's received and Chatter will be listening so long as you have signal. The data isn't always transferring, it's just listening and is ready to download. Once Chatter detects the signal it downloads the mail, exactly like a Blackberry does.

The only real difference between Blackberries and Treos when it comes to push e-mail is that Treos don't support it out of the box, Blackerries do. It's a common misconception that if you want true push e-mail so you can get mail instantly, you need a Blackberry. That was true for a long time but it simply isn't the case anymore.