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Originally posted by krayzie $2700 USD... what's that in Canadian, something like $4000 bucks...  Free bump for you... @__@
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Free bump for you... @__@
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Originally posted by krayzie $2700 USD... what's that in Canadian, something like $4000 bucks... Free bump for you... @__@
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Originally posted by LVwireless its ALOT in CDN |
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Originally posted by amlo i wanna see pictures!!!!!!!! |
Uh-oh. I think this thread is the start of some serious 
if u know what i mean. I don't think anyone expected the P800 to be that much; $2,799.00 US is like 4.5 G's CAD WTFck .... Then again, I drive an M5 and I'm rich so s'all good 
. Besides, the price tag isn't that bad for a Hi-tek phone .... ... ... THAT TRANSFORMS INTO A CAR! 4.5 G's? WTFck I'll pass .... 
too ridiculous for a phone
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Originally posted by LostTexan How about a Raffle? At $20 a pop you could sell 150 raffle tickets. hehe then we would all I have a chance at a p800
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c'mon adam what do you say?
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Originally posted by MrSavoy The carriers when they get them wont sell them for that price and they wont gouge like that. |
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Originally posted by Raz1 Uh-oh. I think this thread is the start of some serious if u know what i mean. I don't think anyone expected the P800 to be that much; $2,799.00 US is like 4.5 G's CAD WTFck .... Then again, I drive an M5 and I'm rich so s'all good .
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Everything about that car screams "waiting to get a speeding ticket" I was recently drooling over the Dinan M5 that was in C&D , with 470HP!
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Originally posted by Bratan Not to go off on a tangent, but Raz1, you seriously drive an M5? That's my favorite car under $100k USD Everything about that car screams "waiting to get a speeding ticket" I was recently drooling over the Dinan M5 that was in C&D , with 470HP! P.S. The price tag on the P800 is extremely high, but I don't think Adam is making as much as people think. He's probably making a couple nundred bucks of the thing. |
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Originally posted by lil DraGon nahhh.. there has to be some sort of mistake, someone, somwhere has marked this product up 400%! |
Anyway, let us know when it gets cheaper okay? Mahalos in advance!!!
All the buzz created in a scant 2 hours about the cost of the phone and no one seems to care really about LV's opinion of it's performance? Instead of *****ing about how he makes his money on a phone none of you are offering up to buy,,,be polite and ask him to at least throughly test one of the units and post an opinion,,,or better yet,,,some actual, real life photos of screen shots, menus, photo examples, PDA examples, etc.
OUCH!!!!
ROFL. Like that would ever happen any way. This is all just so funny to me.
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Originally posted by brick No, the price of the official release of the P800 is not going to be $2,800. You pay $2,000 for the few weeks of use before the actual release. |
-- I think I will wait for teh price to go down to $600 USD
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Originally posted by phonedude so LVwireless did you sold allready ur 3 units???...or you still siting on them? |
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Originally posted by Bengalboy 3VW, You make an excellent point. If as a hypothetical scenerio, I HAD PURCHASED THE LAST ONE, and I had read all the negative comments from the other users regarding my common sense and materialistic personality, I would not post one review, share one photo, or otherwise discuss the phone until it was actually released. Therefore saving myself from the jealous and bitter opinions of those who cannot get beyond the current cost. |
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Originally posted by Bengalboy OneEyeJack, As usual, I find your comment attached to one of mine or another members. Get your own material, or do you have an original thought? |
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Originally posted by vwvwvw Any of the buyers a HC member? I suppose if they were they wouldn't admit it for fear of condemnation! Sad
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Originally posted by LVwireless Nobody here has the stomach to pay that much for a phone, hehe. Just a couple of well to do people have bought them so far |
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Originally posted by Bengalboy Does the Opera Browser really allow you to view any website that you normally browse on your desktop on the phone? |
you have to think of the time (time=money) that it will save you, and the potential advantages of having it with you could bring.|
Originally posted by Killa-b i said b4 its madd expensive but this is NOT the retail price of the phone, will fully launched. second, if it costs 2,800 bucks, and it allows you to stay in toch with the office, read reports, e-mails, do some xcell work, then it could well pay for its self in a month or so. if your a reeastate agent, and you could go to a house, take a picture, pop it onto the main server, thats would be very valuable. or, if you had your clients and they wanted some listings that you did not have you could browse for them, again handy. this was nev er advertised as a "teeny booper" phone, its a business TOOL. (for TOOLS @ that price you have to think of the time (time=money) that it will save you, and the potential advantages of having it with you could bring.by the way price is not demand/supply. price is a FUNCTION of demand and supply. and ONLY in a perfect market. under these conditions SE has a monolopy or perhas an olioglopy, where the firms are PRICE setters, not PRICE takers. go back to econ 101. |
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Originally posted by Killa-b PartII "it's much more functional in terms of checking email" when did u get to use the P800?? the p800 will/should be able to replace a blackberry and an ipaq. like all "all-in-one" devices it will do an average job of everything, but i can hope that it will excell in certain areas. |
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Originally posted by Killa-b WAAAAT the P800 has built in POP3 and IMPA support. it will work exactly like th T68i e-mail, no need for a wap site or anything. plus with the larger screen you will be able to compose e-mail easier, attach files, music, etc. i like the blackberry, but the P800 (from reading the whitepapers) will be able to do just as much (in terms of e-mail) AND more then the blackberry |
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Originally posted by Bengalboy Blackberries, Strawberries, Blueberries, what the ****? does that have to do with this phone? No one on this thread has used one and has no way of speculating about it or comparing it "INTELLIGENTLY"! with the exception of LvWireless who I am sure by this point has sold them all and is less than appreciative about the comments directed toward him and his pricing policies..Oh Well,,,a few more weeks from now someone will have one in hand to photograph and compare with other phones in an intelligent and scientific manner. |
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Originally posted by Bengalboy Once again, you miss the point....who cares about your speculation of use in a corporate enviroment? People just want to hear about what it's like to use and a realworld informed, intelligent, hands-on opinion from someone on this forum. Sadly, it does not appear that will happen.
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Its all good.
. No problem for the links and yes I agree those games looks real nice, I can't wait to go see a P800 in the stroe when they are out here. I wanna see if this is really worth the money.
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Originally posted by Bengalboy Kinda like I was expressing my opinion about your pointless and uninformed comparisons?
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Originally posted by Bengalboy The Blackberry thread is over in the "Fruits Forum" maybe you should post there. |
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Originally posted by Bengalboy My education is bothering you I see...but I have a 2 year-old nephew who expresses his frustration more constructively. This is the Sony/Ericsson forum, other devices need not apply for consideration, but since you actually have a "Blackberry" and some knowledge of it's use and features, why post here? Why try to compare it to a phone you don't have? Why try to pretend it has any relevance to the P800? Why do you think anyone would really care about your uninformed and speculative comparison? |
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Originally posted by Adrian The blackberry out of the box (Exchange edition) works extremely well, has great coverage, incredible battery life and is very useable. RIM will actually support additional newer functionality very soon in addition to a more advanced hardware device(s). It is also very useful for forwarding emails. Out of the box, the P800 and the iPAQ will not work as well (or even the same or as secure) as the Exchange Blackberry version. That said, 3rd party software packages are already emerging to allow for equivalent or (perceived) better functionality. I mean better in the sense that attachments, colour support, etc are possible with the existing iPAQ (but not the existing blackberry). The Blackberry rarely (if ever) crashes. An iPAQ will most certainly will (daily). The p800 - who knows? Personally I have used a blackberry and an iPAQ/GPRS/T68 (both for email purposes). I only use an iPAQ/GPRS/T68 now (with a program called nPOP). This gives me RIM like functionality but I lose battery life. Sometimes (not as often now) I miss the blackberry for its ease of use and reliability. I end up not sending as many emails now but I have fewer devices and still stay in touch. I am looking forward to the P800 (as a possible replacement to my iPAQ/T68 combo), but I would initially be concerned about stability, battery life and availability of other Symbian based software I would require. I do NOT think true RIM like (push) functionaility would be possible out of the box with additional 3rd party support. See the latest white paper @ http://www.ericsson.com/mobilitywor...p800_wp_oct.pdf In the end, I think I would just replace my T68 with a P800 (but not my iPAQ) at least until other 3rd party software arrives. Adrian |
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Originally posted by Bengalboy Is it a phone? Was it designed as a phone and then had added features for email, etc.? I am sorry that I can't see your logic here. If you were comparing the P800 to Nokia's new smart phone, it would make sense, otherwise I guess I could compare my Desktop computer with "Phone Ring" software which allows me to make phone calls directly from my computer over the internet to anywhere in the world. Gee, my P4 2.5 seriously smokes the P800 in all benchmarks and the graphics from GeForce 4 video card simply murder the frame rates of the P800's video games, not that I've actually compared them side by side, just read it in the "white papers" Oh, yeah, did I say I can make phone calls from my computer? It has made my day though to know my background bothers you OneEye, keep up the good work, by the way what is your background? You don't seem to proud of it to post it in your profile? |
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and why does it have relevance to the p800?? because it can check email and that's exactly what a blackberry does for you. and the new blackberries (the 5810) DO have a phone option but you wouldn't know that because you know NOTHING about blackberries. i'm sorry if i brought the truth upon you and you have neglected to see it. |
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Originally posted by Turbochrge Dear folks, this is my first message, and it will probably be my last. I actually took the time to register so that I can get something off my chest. I've been a troll for the past several months on the HowardsForums, and I've noticed one thing. Mark Morrow, aka Bengalboy, you are one stuck up human being. In addition, not only are you stuck up, but it seems like you need to learn how to exercise some modesty. I mean come on, man! You are whining about staying on topic and demanding constructive criticism when (in the past few months) I've seen several pictures of your girlfriend, your motorcycle, and other items that have nothing to do with mobile phones? And what is it with your pompous sentences? Do you sit there, flip through a thesaurus, and substitute in "bigger" words so that you can show the world you have an education? Example: The masterful Sun following conformity ostentatiously withered in the reputable dusk while manifesting it's superiority to the onslaught of night. This stuff used to impress teachers in elementary school, but teachers caught on by 9th grade. Don't you know this? |
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Originally posted by Killa-b ahh exchange, and domino, sorry. yes you are correct. i agree 100%. BUT remember that the P800 will get apps written for it. and besides there should be a way to route exchange mail to POP3 or IMPA for outside vpn connections. |
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Originally posted by orenlasko hp is coming out with a new version of the ipaq around the same time as the p800 will be released. It will have phone built in and bluetooth and wi-fi. 400mhx, 64-128mb, this thing will kill the p800. |
. I don't see how it's going to kill a P800. Pocket PC was supposed to kill Palm, but it's taken 2 years and nothing much has happened.
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Originally posted by Kanon I can even compare the P800's speaker with my home theatre speaker system. I can say how bad the sound the P800 speaker makes and so on, then my conclusion is the speaker of P800 is worse than my HTS. |
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Originally posted by [MDS] BRATAN: cool name you got there....
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Like your site, by the way.
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Originally posted by Kanon the arguement b/w Oneeyejack & Mark seems kinda pointless to me. I mean hey this is a forum and Oneeyejack isn't off topic. He's comparing P800 to a device that with "similar" functions as the P800. He absoultely has the right to do it and there's no right or wrong in doing this. I can even compare the P800's speaker with my home theatre speaker system. I can say how bad the sound the P800 speaker makes and so on, then my conclusion is the speaker of P800 is worse than my HTS. that's exactly appropriate. Oneeyejack is only comparing the email functionality of the P800 and Blackberry. There's nothing wrong with it unless I'm comparing like the P800 with my PC and say I can change the vid card, sounc card, etc but P800 cannot blah blah blah... Altho my PC and P800 have similar functions, i'm not comparing the functions directly and thus it is not appropriate. However, I'm not saying Mark is wrong. In fact, he's right when he says we can't compare P800 and the Blackberry directly. Altho the new Blackberry can act as a mobile fone, the major function of it is still email, whereas P800, altho it can sned/receive email, the major function of it is still a mobile fone. just my $0.02
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Originally posted by [MDS] okay, i've read the whole thing and i agree with oneeyejack, he has every right to compare p800 to whatever he wants here, moreover his comparisons touch specific aspects of the p800's application, email is one of the functions of the phone, so he went ahead and compared it to a blackberry. so what? it is a constructive comparison that has a right to exist, some people consider emailing capabilities very important part of the cellular phone, so now because of the info he had provided some corporate users will be able to realize the difference among these devices. In any case whatever logic might be drawn from this it makes more sense reading through his comparisons than observing this opposition filled with insults... Mark, please settle down, we all know you are highly educated and wealthy, so now why don't you stop arguing and write your opinions on the phone, these battles will not lead you guys anywhere, in my opinion its just a waste of time, so lets all take a deep breath and ask adam again what did he think about those phones and is he willing to provide some comments.... i don't want that phone, however i would very much like to hear what it's like and how it functions... finally, this indeed is a forum and people are allowed to express their opinions and compare products to whatever they like, and while blackberry - p800 comparison does not make any sense to you Mark, some people might find it useful and there is no crime in that.... Please keep in mind that i don't mean any offence, but this has come too far, and i believe that Mark keeps provoking these bashings.... |
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Originally posted by Bengalboy Love my fan club! Especially the first time posters with no profile who joined soley for my benefit, wonderful people. I certainly make no apoligies for being somewhat educated or having a few things. There are many more people far more educated or wealthier than I, and the pictures were appropriate for the thread, I guess I need to go take a photo of a "Blackberry" and post it in the P800 thread to remain in character. |
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Originally posted by [MDS] u r welcome, so now lets all shake hands. and i would love to hear more about that blackberry thing, can you tell me what it is and if you got a picture i would like to see it.. thanx. P.S. the forum is acting all weird today... i have actually posted mine before kanon, but for some reason it had put it after, i don't know why, in fact we say pretty much same stuff, so please don't assume that i intentionally posted same idea in different words... sorry, something is wrong with the forum today... |
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Originally posted by Killa-b yea, my ONE big concern for the P800 is this. WI-FI abilities. bluetooth is nice and ideal given its purpose. BUT if they had used a CF slot, then we could add so many COOL things. sony has ZERO development in their Memory Stick, besides the camera attachment, and the Bluetooth. they have very few cool devices. anywho, point is P800 will be great, it wont be the BEST and it will have some good and some bad, blah blah. |
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Originally posted by rip sony has a partnership with Lexar to develop the "stick" rip |
Understandable, since you are a lawyer, and I assume formal writing is in your nature. |
Originally posted by Kanon just out of curiosity, if the price of P800 is ~cnd$1000, how many of you will buy it? and for those who think this price is too high, what price you would consider appropriate? ^^
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I think the question is "why can't we all get along?" On the internet, we can all pretend to be people that we are not. Not to be critizing anyone but for all we know Mark could be a 12 year old boy and OneEyeJack could be a medical doctor. Although, this is clearly not the case as illustrated by their lanuage and writing ability. So lets have some faith in each other and allow the freedom of speech. Mark, being a well educated and established professional, should let petty comments from others go .. be the bigger person. To your defense, I have not found you to be stuck up in anyway. Afterall, you worked hard for your degree and to establish your career which many cannot successfully do. You manage to acquire the material goods which make you happy so by all means brag about it! It doesn't bother me. And how stuck up can a person be when their girlfriend is a playboy bunny? Hot (definetely) and brains (possibly) but a playboy bunny does not have the social reputation required by a "stuck up" person to make their serious partner. Based on this (a weak argument), I conclude that Mark is not a stuck up person. As you can tell by my illogical reasoning, I am no means a lawyer and come to think of it, I really fail to see the point of this post but since I wrote it....I am going to post it
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Originally posted by Kanon just out of curiosity, if the price of P800 is ~cnd$1000, how many of you will buy it? and for those who think this price is too high, what price you would consider appropriate? ^^
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i usually don't think straight on price either.|
Originally posted by Bengalboy Well Raz, let's just say that OneEye has put his 2 cents into my posts one too many times. His remarks about my bragging are also incorrect, I am an attorney and I have some nice things, but I never mentioned this at anytime during this thread nor would I as my job and ownership of a motorcycle are irrelevant to the subject. After being insulted about being educated & an attorney,( I suppose a person is thought more of if he is uneducated and has no interests or hobbies in OneEyeJack's world), I have responded in kind. I don't mean to come off as a stuck-up person, in fact, I believe that their are numerous people who may browse this thread and realize they have called me or emailed me for help configuring their phone or asking advice and I have never denied any of them my time or help, even when I was at work. I am who I am, direct, to the point and not full of ****. I don't like OneEyeJack, he is a small person of character, if he will stop responding to my comments and threads, I will leave him to his. If he chooses to respond and then say "I'm entitled to my opinion.." I will interject mine. I realize my comments don't have anything to do with the P800, but 90% of this thread never did. |
| I don't mean to come off as a stuck-up person, in fact, I believe that their are numerous people who may browse this thread and realize they have called me or emailed me for help configuring their phone or asking advice and I have never denied any of them my time or help, even when I was at work. I am who I am, direct, to the point and not full of ****. |
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Originally posted by SSODR You guys crack me up. Haha
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Originally posted by Ipsa Don't know if you guys heard these from the place you bought your T68i or not? We can just do an upgrade to P800 with Cdn $500-$700 by just returning the T68i, after you bought it for 9 mths. I forget the exact price, but won't be over US$2,000 for use. Just give your seller a call, and find out. If your seller bought his T68is directly from Sony Ericsson, you're eligible for the upgrade. Who else aware of this??? |
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Originally posted by Dr. Trigsman Okay, feel free to flame me.. but I've read a couple threads.. and then after readin the first 4 pages or so of this one I skipped like 5 pages, regardless of how entertaining it is. When will it be available for purchase (under $800USD -Hello!)? Thanks |
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Originally posted by Adrian The Blackberry rarely (if ever) crashes. An iPAQ will most certainly will (daily). The p800 - who knows? |
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Originally posted by jadjman Thread Edited! Moderator Note: Picture has been removed because of inappropriate content. |
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Originally posted by jadjman Fine, maybe I have to cover more, I guess? Anyway, as I was saying before: Let's stop arguing and get back to naked pictures of bengalgirlfriend!!! yo nate |
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Originally posted by Just-Talk The P800 should be out near the end of this month to the beginning of december. No pricing yet but it looks around $650-$700 on our first stock. Wait another 2 weeks and it will drop around $100. We can get some pre-production models right now for anyone who wants to dishes out $1700! I know that i am going to wait until they are cheaper! |
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