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V902 SH Flashed to SX813?
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Posted by: sammifan

Ok, I've been reading the multiple threads listing all the problems the V902 SH Jpn has, including this reprovisioning problem, bluetooth problem, mp3 playback and mp3 ringtones restrictions. I'm thinking about getting this phone and getting it flashed to the SX813 f/w. Will this solve all the problems. I really want to know for a fact that all problems will be solved before I dive in and shell out $700 cad for this phone. Thanks.

Posted by: braindead5400

The problems with the 902sh will be sorted out with the SX813 firmware but you *may* end up with increased saving time for pics

Posted by: sammifan

If everything is resolved and saving time for pics takes longer is the only problem then I can live with that. Having that Reprovisioning message appear so often would be really annoying, not having bluetooth or mp3 playback just won't work for me. Good to hear that finally there's a fix.

Posted by: sharp4life

I have purchased a 902sh from ebay good price

, the guy said he would flash the phone to ferrari theme for me, asked if he had the sx813 firm ware he said he but chinese version. Im not sure if that means we are close to getting the full firmware english version,

Posted by: wai_lai416

hmmm the ferrari theme is for the 902 uk version? hmmm i wonder if i can get the ferrari firmware from easycell ~ they told me they can now do flashing to sx813 for $100cnd. anyone tried it?

Posted by: AL9999

SX813 firmware does actually have English menus with English T9 support, so I don't see what's wrong with it being a Chinese version (there is only a Chinese version of the firmware).

Posted by: wai_lai416

there's nothing wrong with the sx813 it's just one is smartone and one is vodafone. so the they have different theme color. some like the vodafone theme. some like the smartone theme... aside from that i think the main problem is the picture saving time... to me i don't really care =) but i'll be interested in getting the ferrari firmware since i heard they have a really good game in it

Posted by: sharp4life

with that in mind, asked if that the chinese firmware had the english T9 and english menus. He replied "yes it did but it was very unstable because it was an official release" i said that fine ferrari menu would be satisfactory

Posted by: kaizoku_san

But the Ferrari menu is just so ugly...

Posted by: wai_lai416

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Originally Posted by sharp4life

with that in mind, asked if that the chinese firmware had the english T9 and english menus. He replied "yes it did but it was very unstable because it was an official release" i said that fine ferrari menu would be satisfactory

it's unstable because it was an official release??? or do u mean unofficial release??

Posted by: sharp4life

unofficial sorry

Posted by: kinmod

I got mine flashed with sx813 and it worked fine for everything...The saving time of my camera in the largest size (and superfine quality) is about 20-25 seconds but the largest size with fine quality only takes like 6 seconds....How different....But normally I only take 1024x768 so I don't really mind that.

Posted by: Timsta

have any of you gotten the 902sh flashed by easycell?

Posted by: sharp4life

I just got a reply from the guy i bought my 902sh from he has informed me that he has the revised sx813 firmware, has tested and has found no faults. So if all goes well i might have my mirror white 902sh with the sx813 menu in a couple of days.

*fingers Crossed*!!!

Posted by: ryoaska1

Just wondering while people are on the topic of firmware differences again- has there been ANY word at all of attempts that have come close to solving the problems associated with unlocking the 902sh without flashing it to a new firmware??

I mentioned this in a separate thread, but my only complaint with flashing to the sx813 firmware was losing the ability to send text messges in japanese. I would get it flashed back, but it sounds like the disadvantages of the japanese firmware far outweigh that advantage. There's a lot of smart people out there working on this stuff though, it seems like someone should be able to find their way around those problems (reprovisioning, mp3 playback etc...)

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

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Originally Posted by kinmod

I got mine flashed with sx813 and it worked fine for everything...The saving time of my camera in the largest size (and superfine quality) is about 20-25 seconds but the largest size with fine quality only takes like 6 seconds....How different....But normally I only take 1024x768 so I don't really mind that.

Hey...I'm looking to get a 902 soon (Now that it can be flashed to SX813 firmware) and I would like to know if the MP3 DRM lock has been lifted with it? Also can you use your MP3's directly as ringtones without having to mod them (Change the format?)

Posted by: kinmod

Everything works except the MP3 ringtones......

Posted by: Hide2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammifan

Ok, I've been reading the multiple threads listing all the problems the V902 SH Jpn has, including this reprovisioning problem, bluetooth problem, mp3 playback and mp3 ringtones restrictions. I'm thinking about getting this phone and getting it flashed to the SX813 f/w. Will this solve all the problems. I really want to know for a fact that all problems will be solved before I dive in and shell out $700 cad for this phone. Thanks.

So does unlocking solve the mp3 ringtones restrictions problem??

Posted by: khaltire

No, nothing does. You can get unrestricted mp3 PLAYBACK however by flashing to SX813 firmware

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Ah bah...I like having MP3 ringtones...ah well...

Posted by: Hide2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by khaltire

No, nothing does. You can get unrestricted mp3 PLAYBACK however by flashing to SX813 firmware

So what is the difference between decode and unlocking the phone?? Also flashing to sx813 firmware means unlocking the phone or decoded??

Posted by: kms-lai

All sh902 sold in hong kong has been unlocked, without being flashed to 813, the chinese firmware, which also contains english menu and text, has only been released in hong kong about just less than two weeks ago.

most people in hong kong buys the import version, because of the price and the avaliable of 8 colours

the hong kong version (silver version only)sx813 is sold by smartone-vodafone for hkd 5950.00, whiles the import version either with the 813 firmware or the japanese firmware is sold around hkd 3300.00.

just some info on the current issue of sharp sx813 in hk

all 813 or the jap version in hk has no issues regarding the restriction of mp3 playback as music,ringtone or connections, by gprs or 3g network

Posted by: kms-lai

if anyone want to know more about the sharp sx813 or sh902 or the cheaper model 802 can pm me for up to date info, as I live in hong kong, and know many people who hacks, unlock and change firmware for most new model phones on the market.

new model just released 903

Posted by: wai_lai416

Quote:

Originally Posted by kms-lai

All sh902 sold in hong kong has been unlocked, without being flashed to 813, the chinese firmware, which also contains english menu and text, has only been released in hong kong about just less than two weeks ago.

not necessary. some stores in HK sells it LOCKED. so you better be careful and ask all info before purchasing. it's actually quite scarybuying stuff in hk coz they scam ppl a lot ~

Posted by: kms-lai

yes. you are right, but most buyers like me use our own sim card to test the phone when buying, and buy from well known shops.

I mainly test for functions and data connection including gprs and 3g, to make sure they work properly, as early models have restriction on data connections

Posted by: Timsta

yah. its good to be careful. especially when dealing with business in HK? when u look as banana as so much of us.. they like to take advantage of us.

hahahaha. this phoen sounds better and better.

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Yeah I know what you mean. I was waiting and waiting for a flash or a GOOD hack. Now that the SX813 firmware has been released, I'm going to take the plunge...

Posted by: kaizoku_san

EMAGDNIM, it's good to see a fellow Bemani player who has good taste in phones.

Posted by: Hide2000

Just wondering can somebody post some pics taken using sharp 902sh?? Just want to see the quality of the photos... (day time and night time if possible...)

Also back to the mp3 ringtones restriction problem... Some guy in simpro retail store told me that all version 902sh japanese or non japanese) they all have ringtones restriction is that true?? He said if I want to use the mp3 ringtones I have to go online and download it directly from the phone... if I transfer the mp3 using IR port or bluetooth... it won't work... is that ture??

Posted by: kinmod

Ur...I bought my Sharp 902SH lightblue from HK a couple of weeks back (like 2 weeks I guess) which is flashed with sx813 and the MP3 ringtone is not usable.....So....it works now? So its only 3300HKD only? Cool, I'll go buy some more then! I saw the Toshiba 902T, is it unlocked and sold yet? I want that too.

Posted by: khaltire

The 902T won't be unlockable as far as I can tell

Posted by: Timsta

hey khaltire.. u know how to make ringtones for our new phones? the drm ones?

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaizoku_san

EMAGDNIM, it's good to see a fellow Bemani player who has good taste in phones.

Wait a sec...where do I know you from

Posted by: khaltire

Yeah you have to convert them to some format, I cant remember. There is a program that does it I used to have it but when I sold my GX32 I trashed it... Ill find it later

Posted by: Timsta

sweet. yo. hey. do you know what the bluetooth problem is with the jap version?

Posted by: kaizoku_san

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMAGDNIM

Wait a sec...where do I know you from

From bemanistyle... my nick on there is just "kaizoku", I've posted in the cellphone thread a few times.

Posted by: khaltire

Yeah timsta, apparently some times when you are transferring files (I think), the phone locks up and you need to restart it

Posted by: Timsta

oyhhh. thats not too bad. but that wouyld get annoying. but to save time. i usually just slap everything onto the memory card anyways.

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaizoku_san

From bemanistyle... my nick on there is just "kaizoku", I've posted in the cellphone thread a few times.

Ah figures

Thats cool, I just have not been there in a while

Well hope to see you here more...

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Originally Posted by Timsta

hey khaltire.. u know how to make ringtones for our new phones? the drm ones?

I'm trying to get my hands on the Panasonic or SE DRM packager software...I'm working on it...

Posted by: Timsta

cool. the software is somewhere. my friend had it before apparently.but i cant find it anywhere... sigh.

Posted by: evilgabbie

i have both the SE and nokia one

have tried making drm files.. they play on the computer but the phone doesn't recognize it

the files become xxx.dm files after packing DRM

are there specific steps ??

i have tried mp3 on every single freaking firmware

Posted by: wai_lai416

Quote:

Originally Posted by khaltire

Yeah timsta, apparently some times when you are transferring files (I think), the phone locks up and you need to restart it

nono... the bluetooth doesn't work AT ALL -_- it'll allow you to detect etc. but once it detected something... u try any of those option the phone will just restart... and i noticed the speaker is dead on restart... i have to restart again manually

Posted by: wai_lai416

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilgabbie

i have both the SE and nokia one

have tried making drm files.. they play on the computer but the phone doesn't recognize it

the files become xxx.dm files after packing DRM

are there specific steps ??

i have tried mp3 on every single freaking firmware

u have both the SE and nokia phone or the program that generates dm files? and is ur file names in chinese?

Posted by: scionga

Quote:

Originally Posted by wai_lai416

u have both the SE and nokia phone or the program that generates dm files? and is ur file names in chinese?

will this dmr packager make mp3s that are playable on a 902sh?

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilgabbie

I was reading somewhere that the file names have to be uniform in order for it to work...(song01, song02, etc). Dont know for sure if it will work but my 902 is not here yet...

Posted by: Timsta

according to gabbie. i was talkin wtih him last night. the drm files he makes from both compiILers. DO NOT WORK with the phone at all. unless some one has specific instructions on how to do it.. cause the method he's doing it isn't working.

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Ah crap...thats no good...

Posted by: Timsta

the best option is to buy the panasonic sd reader. that omes with the panasonic software...

Posted by: kinmod

One findings on the sx813 firmware that I have is that it crashes SE700i and K700i if they try to send file to me over bluetooth. But they can receive from me though.....Kinda funny. Tried on many phones. Doesn't happen to Nokia though...

Posted by: khaltire

Hmm thats messed.. I guess sharp secrectly hates SE lol

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timsta

the best option is to buy the panasonic sd reader. that omes with the panasonic software...

There are a few I have seen on eBay...Do they all work?

Posted by: wai_lai416

i think there's a specific one

Posted by: kms-lai

smartone-vodafone hk, said the bluetooth is only for bluetooth headset and modem connections only

Posted by: kaizoku_san

That's strange that they said that. If it were true, then you wouldn't be able to send any files at all. We know they can limit the use of BT if they *really* wanted to, just like on the GX32.

Posted by: Timsta

its a specific panasonic reader. it has to come with the jukebox software of their own. its proprietary software by panasonic. thers only one on ebay right now that i can see that works.

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

ah, well I was looking around and I had not seen anything like that. Can you post a direct auction link so I know what one will work...

Posted by: uber0

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMAGDNIM

ah, well I was looking around and I had not seen anything like that. Can you post a direct auction link so I know what one will work...

Actually I got one in America but I installed it with the Japanese drivers and it works fine.

Posted by: Timsta

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...6412029713&rd=1

Posted by: khaltire

Wait so if you do the DRM thing to an mp3, you can use it as an mp3 ringtone?

Posted by: wai_lai416

yes the 902s support mp3 ringtone if its DM format and u have to dl thru wap

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timsta

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...6412029713&rd=1

So this is the one I need? Crap thats expensive...

Posted by: khaltire

I dont understand why you need the panasonic SD reader? I thought the point of the reader was just so you could transfer things onto it? Why do you need that particular one? I can see you have to use certrain software for the DRM problem, but why specific readers?

Posted by: Timsta

cause i think the software only recognizes the panasonic sd reader.. its probably driver specific driven...

Posted by: ryoaska1

Quote:

Originally Posted by wai_lai416

yes the 902s support mp3 ringtone if its DM format and u have to dl thru wap

I thought everyone was saying that you can't set mp3s as ringtones no matter what, and you have to convert them to mmf?

Posted by: khaltire

No, you can use mp3 ringtones as long as the DRM protection is encoded (or removed), not sure which. Anyways, then it tricks the phone into thinking you are downloading it from vodafones portal. But that sucks, through WAP? Downloading a 4mb mp3 file would cost like 15 dollars

Posted by: Timsta

hahah.. yah. 15 bux for a song you might just hate very soon.. i put Mr. Lonely on my s700i and i got bored of it within a day.

the whole idea is to trick the phone as khaltire said into thinkign you are putting on DRM encoded mp3s on yoru phone. but u can trick the phone by using the panasonic software/memory card reader. but otherwise using the sony ericsson or nokia drm packager doesn't really work apparently. not that many ppl have that software kicking around either.

i've never heard of the quality of mmf ringtones so ic an't tell you if that's a good replacement or not but its free.

Posted by: kms-lai

of all the polyphonic ringtone, mmf is probable the best and the loudest of them all.
mp3 ringtone cannot compare with the mmf, as mp3 contains vocal sound, although if you have 40 , 64 or 128 mmf polyphonic sound, they can contain vocal as well, on the market there are about 10 different programs that allows you to convert mp3, wav and midi to mmf.

Posted by: Timsta

so can we make vocal mmf for the sharp 902? if so. i'd be quite happy. i'm not really lookin forward to buying ANOTHER card reader. i just bought a 10 in 1 card reader for 20 bucks awhile ago.. i don't really wanna buy another one.

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Well I converted some earlier today...I will check it when I get home...

Posted by: wai_lai416

i'm using voice mmf for a while... some quality are good some are bad. but sure beats no voice

Posted by: Timsta

ahh i c. ****. well hopefully we can fix this up sooner or later. with the pansonic reader or no. sigh. its so hard to find the panasonic reader too..

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Well, I cant get the mmf files to work on my phone...(cehck other thread).

Anyways, my 902 was flashed to SX813 FW and its running great...I will put it through its paces today while Im at work.

Posted by: Timsta

let us know how it goes. i wanna know!

Posted by: khaltire

Timsta did you end up getting your phone on Friday? I guess not cause you probably would have posted about it

Posted by: uber0

Does the SX813 FW support mp3 ringtones?

Posted by: khaltire

No it doesnt

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Nope, but I did get the MMF files to work (Finally

)

They don't sound to bad. But you DO have to keep the ringer down to 3-4 levels or it will start to distort.

More to come...

Posted by: Timsta

khaltire.. i WISH It came.. but it hasn't.. maybe monday? if it left the states on july 1st.... i assume it'd take a week.. cause it wasn't over night mail.

Posted by: khaltire

Think it got held up at the border?

Posted by: Timsta

it might have.. sigh.. no matter wut. it will be here this week. and i will bring it to schnitzer for an upgrade

Posted by: Timsta

after hearing about the answering machine function.. i kind of wanna stick with the japanese firmware now lol. what do you think khaltire.

Posted by: khaltire

To be honest I wouldnt... think about it.. you never had any idea that feature was available until someone mentioned it. You never had teh desire for such a feature. Its not like you always had in your head, **** I wish this thing had some sort of answering machine feature. But now that you know its there you are basing your decision on it? I dunno just seems wrong haha

I wouldnt be able to live with the messed up BT, no wap or MMS (not that I use them), the DRM mp3 problem (huge!), and the reprov prob. But I dunno dude its your phone and go for whatever makes you happy

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Agreed, I have the SX813 firmware. I went with it because I had owned a GX32 before and its a very similar FW. My BT is not messed up and I can play MP3s without having to encoding them to DRM. MMF ringtone quality is fine and I have had people ask me about my "MP3 Ringtones" while at work...

Posted by: ryoaska1

Yeah, but now there is at least one person flashing 902sh with japanese version firmware that says it's taken care of all of those problems (except maybe only drm mp3s...)

I'm still torn on what I want to do. If all of those problems were fixed, i'd go with the japanese firmware for the ability to use japanese text, answering machine function, and i think (although some disagree) that the interface looks better. (the red color looks good with the white and red on the phone i think)

seems to me like they both have their advantages/disadvantages.

Posted by: wai_lai416

don't you have a tracking number to track it? if it's held at the custom ~ then good luck ~ if they don't believe the price marked... they'll try to find out the price themselves... and if they don't find the price they'll eventually send u a mail asking you to provide receipt etc... that takes aprx a month :S

the answering machine function sounds nice but i have voicemail so it's kinda useless for me.. but i don't like how they don't have a icon telling you that you have voicemail ~ except the sms they send u.

Posted by: Timsta

yah. i'm a bit torn like you man. but the one thing that bugs me about the sx813 firmware is the picture taking delay. thats quite a long time. but then again. its not like i take pictures every day. i do rather have ringtones that are mp3 than mmf.

wait... so the sx813 firmware.. doesn't let you have mp3 ringtones? but just lets you play mp3s? is that correct? oh man. i get so confused so easily at times.

Posted by: Timsta

yah. i hate receiving the sms notification myself too. no he didn't give me a trackign number. teh guy i got it from is from Japan so i've got a minor communication gap with him lol. he brought the phone over from japan to the states for his business trip. then he sent it from the States to me in Canada.

Posted by: ryoaska1

another thing i don't like is that you can't set the ringtone volume seperately from the whole 'phone sounds' volume (please correct me if i'm wrong). Anyone know if thats also the case with voda firmware?

Posted by: Kamen

Is there a review of this phone somewhere?
Any owners in Canada using Rogers Wireless want to list some pros and cons?
I'm looking at the 902SH as my next main phone but I can't seem to decide if it would be a wise choice. I mean it seems like a sweet phone (my gf has the 902T and I've been playing with that [Vodafone 902T roaming in Canada on Rogers]).

I see the reception isn't great but I can live with it. Are there any major issues I should know about? I am looking at buying a Euro spec one.
I see that there are problems unlocking the phone and perhaps some firmware malfunctions as well?
Or would I be better off using a NA GSM850 phone like the SE S710a? hehe

Any help and advice greatly appreciated!

Posted by: Timsta

i thought reception was fine for this phone.

Posted by: Noemi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamen

Is there a review of this phone somewhere?
Any owners in Canada using Rogers Wireless want to list some pros and cons?
I'm looking at the 902SH as my next main phone but I can't seem to decide if it would be a wise choice. I mean it seems like a sweet phone (my gf has the 902T and I've been playing with that [Vodafone 902T roaming in Canada on Rogers]).
I see the reception isn't great but I can live with it. Are there any major issues I should know about? I am looking at buying a Euro spec one.
I see that there are problems unlocking the phone and perhaps some firmware malfunctions as well?
Or would I be better off using a NA GSM850 phone like the SE S710a? hehe
Any help and advice greatly appreciated!

network cons:
- no idea how to setup wap/mms/etc
- no 850.. so the reception is pretty spotty..

phone cons:
- slow photo saving
- big and heavy
- everyone wants to play with it cause it's the coolest phone they've ever seen..

Posted by: Kamen

I guess the only real cons for me are the network cons then hehe

I heard that the Japanese version has a cripple mp3 player, phonebook, etc?

Posted by: totaltoanage

network settings you have to find and fiddle with a little bit...try asking for the settings in your network threads or ask a person that works for your provider. i use tmobile and my internet works well (thanks to ajamils!!

Posted by: EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamen

Is there a review of this phone somewhere?
Any owners in Canada using Rogers Wireless want to list some pros and cons?
I'm looking at the 902SH as my next main phone but I can't seem to decide if it would be a wise choice. I mean it seems like a sweet phone (my gf has the 902T and I've been playing with that [Vodafone 902T roaming in Canada on Rogers]).

I see the reception isn't great but I can live with it. Are there any major issues I should know about? I am looking at buying a Euro spec one.
I see that there are problems unlocking the phone and perhaps some firmware malfunctions as well?
Or would I be better off using a NA GSM850 phone like the SE S710a? hehe

Any help and advice greatly appreciated!

I have not had a 850 band phone for a while, and I can say the reception is fine...but some times in weird areas I get the worst reception. As for SMS WAP settings, you can ask in the Rogers thread

The phone is bigger then a lot of the new cells out now, but I dont mind (I had a S700 and its the same to me). I have not run into any problems on the FW that I am running (SX813).

Posted by: Kamen

Thanks for the replies guys!

Yea I don't mind the size since it is feature packed and supports SD cards, internal and external displays, internal and external cameras, swivel action to digicam mode, etc etc

Just like my girlfriend's Vodafone 902T. I originally decided on getting an S710a, but ever since I held the 902T in my hands I went on some Vodafone kick and the 902SH is the closest thing I can find to working in Canada on Rogers.

Posted by: kinmod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamen

Thanks for the replies guys!

Yea I don't mind the size since it is feature packed and supports SD cards, internal and external displays, internal and external cameras, swivel action to digicam mode, etc etc

Just like my girlfriend's Vodafone 902T. I originally decided on getting an S710a, but ever since I held the 902T in my hands I went on some Vodafone kick and the 902SH is the closest thing I can find to working in Canada on Rogers.

902T is the Toshiba one right? Is it running on Vodafone or you got it unlocked from somewhere and it can run on gsm network? I'd like one too.

Posted by: Kamen

Yea it's the Toshiba one. It's my girlfriend's phone, she is visiting me in Canada right now and it's roaming on Rogers [F***** expensive at that]).
Afaik it can't be unlocked for use outside of the Vodafone network in Japan.
But I would think the Toshiba is very similar if not the same to the Sharp differing only slightly in firmware and mostly on physical appearance.
The swivel and flip combo is sweet though...but the camera is only 1.92mp.

Posted by: Noemi

Quote:

Originally Posted by totaltoanage

network settings you have to find and fiddle with a little bit...try asking for the settings in your network threads or ask a person that works for your provider. i use tmobile and my internet works well (thanks to ajamils!!

i tried that.. no help..

oh well.. maybe once the 802/902 becomes more popular someone will work it out..

Posted by: Timsta

2 megapixel... 1.92 megapixel.. not much difference really.. are u really gonna pore over the pixels? lol. its just a camera phone.

i want to get the toshiba phone too.

Posted by: kinmod

At the time I went to HK to buy my 902SH, I've seen a bunch of 902T that they're trying to unlock. Should be done sometime soon but guess it'll take a while before being stable. We'll have to wait...and.....see.....

Posted by: Timsta

just cause i'm such a geek. i've already planned to get that next lol. but the amount of users that would even have that phone would be so little.. community would be even smaller than this one for Sharp.

Posted by: kinmod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timsta

just cause i'm such a geek. i've already planned to get that next lol. but the amount of users that would even have that phone would be so little.. community would be even smaller than this one for Sharp.

True.....Just this one is already giving me a hard time finding stuffs about it.