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Just got my mpx220 exchanged for a SMT5600
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Posted by: gene501

I'm so much more happy with the 5600. I've been living with this phone and it's ill mannered behavior way too long. specifically, the phone did this wiered sound filter thing to my voice and people had a really really hard time understanding me.

also, the activesynch started to act up with it, the speakerphone never worked, and it locked up constantly. Sometimes, it would stay on but not accept calls.

it was a total piece of **** in my opinion. I'm so much more happier with the audiovox's infinitely easier to read screen, snappyness, speakerphone and reliability.

the buttons are a little different to get used, too but overall i'm ecstatic with the swap.

Posted by: Richard Cranium

I totally agree! I just got a smt 5600 replacement for my mpx220 from Cingular.
It's much louder, the screen is larger and it seems to be faster. The only negatives are the smaller keys and the fact that it turns on a lot in the supplied case. I just lock it to stop that, but it is kind of annoying.

You can also get a Clearview for free from wesstek.

One question, how do you use voice dialing?

Posted by: chuckknight

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Originally Posted by Richard Cranium

the screen is larger and it seems to be faster.

Amazing, isn't it? And made all the more impressive, considering that from a technical standpoint, the MPX has a significantly faster processor, and better (though smaller) screen.

What the heck did they do to the MPX, to screw it up so badly?! My Audiovox just works...and that's the highest praise I can give any computerized device.

-- Chuck Knight

Posted by: Richard Cranium

I thought they both had 200 MHz cpus.

Posted by: AlbertoM

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Originally Posted by Richard Cranium

One question, how do you use voice dialing?

One answer, you don't.....

However, there is a third party commercial program that worked well on my SMT5600 when I had it, but I can't recall the name....I will search for it and see what I can find....

Edit: Yeah, Fonix Voice Dial. Worked, as I remember, pretty good, almost as the native one in the MPx220. I think I mapped a button to act as the up-volume in the 220. Look HERE

Posted by: AlbertoM

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Originally Posted by chuckknight

I had both, and I gave away my 5600, although it is an outstanding telephone - I simply do not like the candybar form factor. My MPx220, however, just works, and it works well. Too bad about yours!

Probably why ice cream is made in different flavors......

Posted by: AlbertoM

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Originally Posted by Richard Cranium

I thought they both had 200 MHz cpus.

The MPx220 uses dual processors. Side by side with the 5600 the 220 is faster, but not, IMHO, enough to make a difference. YMMV according to the application.

Posted by: GT-[R]

ive seen the audiovox a few times, and i really like the look of it...
but ive never liked audiovox, and most ppl will be like wtf is that phone

i might end up trying it later on, when i get bored of my mpx220...

Posted by: AlbertoM

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Originally Posted by Richard Cranium

and the fact that it turns on a lot in the supplied case. I just lock it to stop that, but it is kind of annoying.

I think I turned the phone to face inwards and it stopped that. I tended to forget locking it....

Posted by: gene501

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Originally Posted by GT-[R]

ive seen the audiovox a few times, and i really like the look of it...
but ive never liked audiovox, and most ppl will be like wtf is that phone

i might end up trying it later on, when i get bored of my mpx220...

i agree, the audiovox name is whack, and kind of bothered me too. it bothered me enought to scratch off the name

i tell everyone that it's a phone made from a quality taiwanese manufactuer that has been rebranded. which is the truth if i'm not mistaken. noone i've showed the phone to seems to make a big deal about it after they see how nice of a display it has, and that its running ms smartphone OS.

In response to others that have had luck with their mpx220, more power to you. i might have got a lemon, but it seems alot of others did too.

IMHO they did a disservice to the public by releasing the phone too early, but on the other hand, one might argue that the blame is on the buyer for making the decision on getting a just released product.

all i know that i won't ever look back. the display on this thing totally blows away the mpx220, and there isn't enough that can be said for having a phone that functions like it supposed to.

now if only they could make a windows smartphone with an integrated qwerty keyboard. that would be PIMP.

Posted by: Richard Cranium

Well, I had two mpx220's and they were both slower in every app I can think of. This includes the OS itself. Skyforce works significantly faster as well. Who cares about the name of the manufacturer; it's not a status symbol who makes it, is it? :rolleyes2 BTW, I've never heard of the mpx220 having dual processors.

As for voice dialing, the 5600 seems to use something called voice tags.
I'll check out that phonix app, thanks!

I haven't been able to sync my jabra 250 with the phone yet, but I'll keep trying.

Posted by: AlbertoM

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Originally Posted by Richard Cranium

Well, I had two mpx220's and they were both slower in every app I can think of. This includes the OS itself. Skyforce works significantly faster as well. Who cares about the name of the manufacturer; it's not a status symbol who makes it, is it? :rolleyes2 BTW, I've never heard of the mpx220 having dual processors.

Agree as to the name of the manufacturer. It is a great phone. As to the Dual Processors - yep - Google that or search in these forums for BengalBoy review of the phone. OTOH, I really haven't noticed a great deal of difference.

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Originally Posted by Richard Cranium

As for voice dialing, the 5600 seems to use something called voice tags.
I'll check out that phonix app, thanks!

Means that you can take a number and assign it a give tag: Say, a friend name Bob, "Bob", or the tag can be anything at all, Bob could be "Oldsmobile". The Phonix tag does what the Voice Dial in the MPx220 did, and you can speak the name....

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Originally Posted by Richard Cranium

I haven't been able to sync my jabra 250 with the phone yet, but I'll keep trying.

Can't help you there. I never did use BT with the 5600 and I use an HS850 with my MPx220.

Posted by: sracer

Gee, being nitpicky about the BRAND of the phone?! I guess that I shouldn't be surprised considering how name-conscious society is today. I don't care if my 5600 was rebadged by "ButtUgly", it is still the best Smartphone IMO. And when I show people what I can do with my phone, they wouldn't care either.

Posted by: gene501

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Originally Posted by sracer

Gee, being nitpicky about the BRAND of the phone?! I guess that I shouldn't be surprised considering how name-conscious society is today. I don't care if my 5600 was rebadged by "ButtUgly", it is still the best Smartphone IMO. And when I show people what I can do with my phone, they wouldn't care either.

I'm 27, and when I was growing up, I remember the Audiovox was like a super low end electronics manufacturer back in the day, and is considered an off brand. There is alot of stigma attached to it with people of my generation I think.

but you do have a very valid point.

Posted by: dumwaldo

are you guys insane?

the mpx220 does NOT have a dual processor.
it has a dual core processor. that absolutely does not mean it has two processors. all that means is that the processor is compatible with the industry standard ARM based technology as well as some home brewed propriatary texas instruments digital signal processing.

it means you are supposed to believe that you have hardware graphics acceleration.

so for fact there is absolutely NOT a dual processor in the mpx220.

Posted by: DKOnLine

Does the SMT5600 Support BlueTooth Dialing and does it have a keylock for when its in your pocket?

Posted by: another_punk

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Originally Posted by DKOnLine

Does the SMT5600 Support BlueTooth Dialing and does it have a keylock for when its in your pocket?

From what I know, SMT5600 supports Bluetooth dialing, and of course, it has keylock feature!

Posted by: another_punk

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Originally Posted by sracer

Amen to that!

Seriously, it's just a brand name. The phone still kicks a$$ with all its features.

Posted by: DKOnLine

Do you guys know if Cingular is still swapping the Mpx220 and giving the SMT5600? I am so tired of the Mpx220.

Posted by: tarponfly

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Originally Posted by another_punk

Amen to that!

Seriously, it's just a brand name. The phone still kicks a$$ with all its features.

I'll admit, while I like my mpx220 (no problems and super fast) better, the smt5600 kicks ***, but I will admit there is definately a stigma attached to the Audiovox name. I just brings to mind wall mart knock-off style electronics. I guess it's just something for my generation (25 yo or so)

Posted by: gene501

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Originally Posted by DKOnLine

Do you guys know if Cingular is still swapping the Mpx220 and giving the SMT5600? I am so tired of the Mpx220.

i called cingular last wednesday, paid up for shipping and got it friday.

Posted by: AlbertoM

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Originally Posted by DKOnLine

Does the SMT5600 Support BlueTooth Dialing and does it have a keylock for when its in your pocket?

Does not come with Voice Dialing, so I don't know whether it will support an add on like Fonix. Standard keylock/unlock.

Posted by: AlbertoM

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Originally Posted by dumwaldo

are you guys insane?

No. Are you?
Nice opening, bub.

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Originally Posted by dumwaldo

the mpx220 does NOT have a dual processor.
it has a dual core processor. that absolutely does not mean it has two processors. all that means is that the processor is compatible with the industry standard ARM based technology as well as some home brewed propriatary texas instruments digital signal processing.

OK, semantics. Yes it is a DUAL CORE processor. Happy? From Mobil Tech Review:

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While the MPx200 had a 132MHz processor, the MPx220 has a 200MHz Texas Instruments OMAP 1611 processor. The 1611 is an ARM family processor that has a dual core: one is devoted to running the OS and PDA basic functions, while the other is a DSP that handles multimedia, sound and some video tasks. This means the phone can perform well when running sound and voice related tasks as well as playing back video without taxing the main processor.

Full Text HERE

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Originally Posted by dumwaldo

it means you are supposed to believe that you have hardware graphics acceleration.

Read the quote above. You can believe what you want to believe.

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Originally Posted by dumwaldo

so for fact there is absolutely NOT a dual processor in the mpx220.

And?

Posted by: dumwaldo

the mpx 220 has ONE SINGULAR PROCESSOR. it is as simple as that. it has a single processor that pulls dual purposes.

i have a P4 with HT technology in my desktop computer. can i start telling people that i have a dual processor rig because the HT technology allows the SINGULAR processor to pull dual purpose and perform 2 tasks at once? thats the same thing that is supposedly happening with the calculator processor in your phone. i call it a calculator processor because that all texas instruments has ever had sucsess building. well at least untill people gullible enough to believe they can build a better processor than computing giant intell came around.

i think it happened around the same time that people started regarding goldstar as a world class brand name.

BTW
your link does not work.

Posted by: ccbl91

guys a dual core processor is simply two cores within one processor. for example, to have a 2.4 ghz dual core processor, each processor run at 1.2 ghz
also, the mpx220's processor is dual core to keep it as cool as possible. if u guys don't believe me, stick ur head in ur heatsink

o n dual core also has another plus, its cache is double of most processor becuz the the two cores have seperate caches. so when u add the caches together, u get the sum

Posted by: Merovingian

I called Cingulars XBM yesterday and finally swapped my 220 for a SMT5600.

I have 2 220's and an SMT5600 (soon to be 1 220 and 2 5600's)....one 220 (the one I'm exchanging) is defective whereas it never gets reception. Antenna issue I suppose. The other 220 works as good as you can get it to work...which isn't that fantastic. Sure, you can waste time update ROM's and tweaking out the registry, but a common end user doesn't know that, nor wants to do that. The Audiovox is a much better and stable phone than the 220, unfortunately...I wish it were the other way around...I really liked the 220's design. The speed of the 220 is terribly noticable compared to the 5600 as well. It's seen just when going through the menu's, especially if you have something running in the background (ie., agile msgr or MP/BetaPLayer). It's not slow enough to make me want to switch back to the 220 though.

*shrug* Oh well....maybe the next-gen MPx will be better.

Posted by: Whit

I have both phones and one week to figure out which one I want to keep.

I just got the email with the link for the upgrade through Motorola for Cingular's NA market MPX220s. I think I will install the upgrade and see how much of a difference it makes. I also need to record some test voice mails, under a variety of circumstances (driving in my car, walking outside, etc.) with both phones, in order to sort this out. Some obvious differences:

1. Audiovox battery lasts longer
2. Screen in MPX is better, but a bit smaller, and can be seen better in the sunlight.
3. Audiovox will not run properly with a 256mg mini-SD card installed. It will eventually freeze up until you remove the card (even after hard reset it remains frozen). This is bad!
4. Audiovox sounds better.

I don't know about other differences, but would love to hear more about them, so please list away...

Posted by: MJLaRue

I don't know what you are talking about with regard to the mini-SD issue. I just got my 5600 last week (traded my 220 in) and I've had a 256MB mini-SD card installed since day 1 and have never had it freeze up on me.

I have some apps installed to the card that I run often as well, so even if it were usage related I don't think it is a fundamental problem with the 5600.

Have you tried a different mini-SD card?

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Originally Posted by Whit

I have both phones and one week to figure out which one I want to keep.

I just got the email with the link for the upgrade through Motorola for Cingular's NA market MPX220s. I think I will install the upgrade and see how much of a difference it makes. I also need to record some test voice mails, under a variety of circumstances (driving in my car, walking outside, etc.) with both phones, in order to sort this out. Some obvious differences:

1. Audiovox battery lasts longer
2. Screen in MPX is better, but a bit smaller, and can be seen better in the sunlight.
3. Audiovox will not run properly with a 256mg mini-SD card installed. It will eventually freeze up until you remove the card (even after hard reset it remains frozen). This is bad!
4. Audiovox sounds better.

I don't know about other differences, but would love to hear more about them, so please list away...

Posted by: gene501

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Originally Posted by Merovingian

I called Cingulars XBM yesterday and finally swapped my 220 for a SMT5600.

I have 2 220's and an SMT5600 (soon to be 1 220 and 2 5600's)....one 220 (the one I'm exchanging) is defective whereas it never gets reception. Antenna issue I suppose. The other 220 works as good as you can get it to work...which isn't that fantastic. Sure, you can waste time update ROM's and tweaking out the registry, but a common end user doesn't know that, nor wants to do that. The Audiovox is a much better and stable phone than the 220, unfortunately...I wish it were the other way around...I really liked the 220's design. The speed of the 220 is terribly noticable compared to the 5600 as well. It's seen just when going through the menu's, especially if you have something running in the background (ie., agile msgr or MP/BetaPLayer). It's not slow enough to make me want to switch back to the 220 though.

*shrug* Oh well....maybe the next-gen MPx will be better.

I totally agree. I do like the design of the mpx and wished it didn't have so many problems. As far as the speed goes, i couldn't agree more. the 5600 is substantially more responsive than the 220 95% of the time.

after having the phone now for a while now, I have absolutely no regrets. i've had a chance to play around with the mp3 playback and the headphones. very good btw. the 5600's speakerphone is actually useable, loud, and most importantly clear.

the free clearview software kicks ***. it works quite well scaling the images down which allows them to be very readable.

i really hope the new firmware makes the mpx more useable for the sake of all those that still have it.

Posted by: coronet

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Originally Posted by AlbertoM

Does not come with Voice Dialing, so I don't know whether it will support an add on like Fonix. Standard keylock/unlock.

Then what is the thing that comes up when you press and hold the volume down button? I thought that was the voice tag dialer?

And while there are a bunch of nitpicky problems here about the 220, I can say there have been a few with my 5600 as well. Like for one, it won't play MP3 ringtones. No matter how I encode, tag, or bitrate them, they will not be selected as ringtones (I have to use WAV files, which are bloated and have to be cut short). Also, people complain the volume is not loud enough.

So don't go preaching the 5600; both have their 'little problems'.

Posted by: Merovingian

Why don't you just use .wmv ringtones for the 5600? Thats what I do...thats what I do for the 220 as well. They're more compressed and sound better.

.Wav ringtones are so 2002 =-)

Posted by: coronet

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Originally Posted by Merovingian

Why don't you just use .wmv ringtones for the 5600? Thats what I do...thats what I do for the 220 as well. They're more compressed and sound better.

.Wav ringtones are so 2002 =-)

.wma? That won't work, either. WMP 9 or WMP 7, either one won't go. :-/

Posted by: Duc23

I have had my 5600 for 2 weeks now and I love it so far! The big bulky case is kinda lame and I wish there were some better holsters for this phone.

I agree the Audiovox name draws some strange looks when you tell people you paid $200 for it.... It first reminded me of Kraco stereos from K-mart but electronics have changed quite a bit since the late 80's.

I have a 1GB SanDisk Mini SD card installed and have no problems so far. I have some MP3's on there, photos and a few .wmv files (including I'm Rick James B*tch)

Once you put in a MiniSD card does the phone automatically use that memory also for photos and videos you take? If not how do you set the phone to use the SD memory?

ActiceSync works like a charm!

Posted by: coronet

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Originally Posted by Duc23

...Once you put in a MiniSD card does the phone automatically use that memory also for photos and videos you take? If not how do you set the phone to use the SD memory?

No, it's under the options of the camera. Press the camera button, then Menu --> Options --> General. You can't miss it!