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Posted by: islandsnow

is there a way to customize the 1.28 fw? i was able to delete off some programs like real player and versamail off of the 1.23 firmware, but when i went to 1.28, it was just an installer and couldn't customize the rom.



Posted by: deanfx

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Originally Posted by islandsnow
is there a way to customize the 1.28 fw? i was able to delete off some programs like real player and versamail off of the 1.23 firmware, but when i went to 1.28, it was just an installer and couldn't customize the rom.



Search treocentral.com

There are 3 customized there posted somewhere on there.



Posted by: shawncv79

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Originally Posted by islandsnow
is there a way to customize the 1.28 fw? i was able to delete off some programs like real player and versamail off of the 1.23 firmware, but when i went to 1.28, it was just an installer and couldn't customize the rom.


I have what you're looking for... 1.28 for unlocked GSM phones that has VersaMail and Real Player removed. Tutorial is also gone and the only language on the ROM is English...PM me and i'll email it to you



Posted by: tonydrone

But versamail is so dope with 1.28 FW.

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Originally Posted by shawncv79
I have what you're looking for... 1.28 for unlocked GSM phones that has VersaMail and Real Player removed. Tutorial is also gone and the only language on the ROM is English...PM me and i'll email it to you




Posted by: shawncv79

I hope you're joking...

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Originally Posted by tonydrone
But versamail is so dope with 1.28 FW.


No matter how dope it is, its still versamail. I use snappermail cause it supports IMAP and POP and its much better than versamail.



Posted by: chompx2

Is there a way to customize the FW1.28 the same way as the FW1.23?
I use Versamail and need to have it on the ROM. I would like to keep only the English Language on the phone and place CKJOS on the ROM. While I was not successful doing that with the FW1.23, I would still like to have the option to play with it. I know if I spend enough time on it, I'll get it done.



Posted by: shawncv79

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Originally Posted by chompx2
Is there a way to customize the FW1.28 the same way as the FW1.23?
I use Versamail and need to have it on the ROM. I would like to keep only the English Language on the phone and place CKJOS on the ROM. While I was not successful doing that with the FW1.23, I would still like to have the option to play with it. I know if I spend enough time on it, I'll get it done.


I have the program to edit the custom ROM...PM me, i'll email it to you..


on another note, after I upgraded my ROM to 1.28 I lost all my data (expected)...however, I can't recall how to set my hot sync manager or "PC overwrites phones" rather than "phone overrights PC" when backing up all my info. Can anyone give me some basic instructions?



Posted by: tonydrone

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Originally Posted by shawncv79
I hope you're joking...
No matter how dope it is, its still versamail. I use snappermail cause it supports IMAP and POP and its much better than versamail.


Since when did VersaMail not support IMAP AND POP. I have both imap and pop email accounts, works great for me. I don't get having to Pay for an email program(like chatter/snapper), when you have to pay for POP and IMAP in the first place.



Posted by: chompx2

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Originally Posted by shawncv79
I have the program to edit the custom ROM...PM me, i'll email it to you..


on another note, after I upgraded my ROM to 1.28 I lost all my data (expected)...however, I can't recall how to set my hot sync manager or "PC overwrites phones" rather than "phone overrights PC" when backing up all my info. Can anyone give me some basic instructions?

Is it the same program that edit the FW1.23? How did you do it on the FW1.28? The FW1.28 was loaded differently. Anyway, I'll PM you.
You need to use the Palm Desktop to select the option. Desktop overwrites Handheld to restore. That is provided if you did not do any sync with the Desktop after the update. I hot sync before an update and rename the file and then do another hotsync just in case. I no longer bother to rename the files as I use Backup Buddy to backup also.



Posted by: islandsnow

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Originally Posted by shawncv79
I have what you're looking for... 1.28 for unlocked GSM phones that has VersaMail and Real Player removed. Tutorial is also gone and the only language on the ROM is English...PM me and i'll email it to you


thanks... but i was able to get it here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/s...&highlight=1.28

if i can't get this to work, i'll pm you.



Posted by: islandsnow

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Originally Posted by chompx2
Is it the same program that edit the FW1.23? How did you do it on the FW1.28? The FW1.28 was loaded differently. Anyway, I'll PM you.
You need to use the Palm Desktop to select the option. Desktop overwrites Handheld to restore. That is provided if you did not do any sync with the Desktop after the update. I hot sync before an update and rename the file and then do another hotsync just in case. I no longer bother to rename the files as I use Backup Buddy to backup also.


yes the initial 1.28 fw was uneditable. however if you go to the link i provided above, they have the customizable 1.28 roms.



Posted by: chompx2

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Originally Posted by islandsnow
thanks... but i was able to get it here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/s...&highlight=1.28

if i can't get this to work, i'll pm you.


Thanks Buddy! I downloaded the full ROM and the Custom 1 which is exactly what I need. I just need to load Zlauncher or CKJOS on it. It I got more space, I'll get Ringo on it also. Much Appreciated!



Posted by: islandsnow

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Originally Posted by chompx2
Thanks Buddy! I downloaded the full ROM and the Custom 1 which is exactly what I need. I just need to load Zlauncher or CKJOS on it. It I got more space, I'll get Ringo on it also. Much Appreciated!


yeah i downloaded and installed custom2, and i can verify that it works. no tutorial, no versamail, no real player!!!!



Posted by: chompx2

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Originally Posted by islandsnow
yeah i downloaded and installed custom2, and i can verify that it works. no tutorial, no versamail, no real player!!!!


I installed Custom 1 but it seems that it is useless unless one can use that extra space to load apps. I had been playing with this all day and still cannot get it right. I added Uninstall, CKJOS, KeyCap and RingoPro in various combinations but it is not right.

The Uninstall does not work in the ROM and not a good idea.
The RingoPro I got comes with a installer, When I added the installer in the ROM, everytime I launch it it would launch the installer first.
I added the CKJOS but I cannot see where it is.
The only thing that worked was the KeyCap.

I tried a few times but only once of twice I got the FW installed, Most of the time it gave me error messsges. I only see about 2mb of memory increase at the most.

I gave up and reflash the FW with the Palmone download. It did not work. I was able to reinstall the full version loaded from TreoCentral. So I am back to where I was.



Posted by: islandsnow

you shouldn't be touching custom1 rom or custom2. if you want to make changes then use the full uncustomized version. and you do know that not all software is made to be put into the built in rom. i think there's a link somewhere that tells you what will work and what will not.

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Originally Posted by chompx2
I installed Custom 1 but it seems that it is useless unless one can use that extra space to load apps. I had been playing with this all day and still cannot get it right. I added Uninstall, CKJOS, KeyCap and RingoPro in various combinations but it is not right.

The Uninstall does not work in the ROM and not a good idea.
The RingoPro I got comes with a installer, When I added the installer in the ROM, everytime I launch it it would launch the installer first.
I added the CKJOS but I cannot see where it is.
The only thing that worked was the KeyCap.

I tried a few times but only once of twice I got the FW installed, Most of the time it gave me error messsges. I only see about 2mb of memory increase at the most.

I gave up and reflash the FW with the Palmone download. It did not work. I was able to reinstall the full version loaded from TreoCentral. So I am back to where I was.




Posted by: chompx2

Quote:
Originally Posted by islandsnow
you shouldn't be touching custom1 rom or custom2. if you want to make changes then use the full uncustomized version. and you do know that not all software is made to be put into the built in rom. i think there's a link somewhere that tells you what will work and what will not.

Actually using Custom 1 save me the trouble to delete the Real Player, Tutorial and Language. I just added the extra apps that I want. What kind of apps did you added to your ROM?



Posted by: islandsnow

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Originally Posted by chompx2
Actually using Custom 1 save me the trouble to delete the Real Player, Tutorial and Language. I just added the extra apps that I want. What kind of apps did you added to your ROM?


sorry, you are right, if you used the full uncustomized version you would have to do a lot of work to delete out stuff like the other languages.

i didn't add any apps to the custom ROM. for me, i prefer not to because if an upgrade to the app comes out, there is no way for me to remove the old app other than re-customizing the ROM and then hard resetting and loading the new rom again.



Posted by: chompx2

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Originally Posted by islandsnow
sorry, you are right, if you used the full uncustomized version you would have to do a lot of work to delete out stuff like the other languages.

i didn't add any apps to the custom ROM. for me, i prefer not to because if an upgrade to the app comes out, there is no way for me to remove the old app other than re-customizing the ROM and then hard resetting and loading the new rom again.


Then what is the purpose of removing the Real Player, Language and Turtorial then? I thought the whole idea is to free up some memory so you use it to load some app on the ROM that noramlly is installed in the RAM and free up your RAM.



Posted by: islandsnow

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Originally Posted by chompx2
Then what is the purpose of removing the Real Player, Language and Turtorial then? I thought the whole idea is to free up some memory so you use it to load some app on the ROM that noramlly is installed in the RAM and free up your RAM.


certain apps like lightwav, and ptunes does not like being on the sd card in order for it to work properly. so those get installed on the treo. now what happens if i install lightwav into the firmware rom, and then a major release comes out a month later? i'm stuck. i free up memory so that i can install stuff on the treo where it cannot reside on the sd card.

ALSO, i have goodlink installed which in itself takes up over 9mb! and that also cannot be installed into the ROM nor on the sd card.

i'm not saying you cannot install anything in the rom. install till your hearts content. but what will you do when upgrades to all those apps come out?
RAM or ROM, they the same to me, both resides on the treo. ROM you cannot overwrite/delete without recustomizing the rom and hard resetting, RAM you can.



Posted by: chompx2

Quote:
Originally Posted by islandsnow
certain apps like lightwav, and ptunes does not like being on the sd card in order for it to work properly. so those get installed on the treo. now what happens if i install lightwav into the firmware rom, and then a major release comes out a month later? i'm stuck. i free up memory so that i can install stuff on the treo where it cannot reside on the sd card.

ALSO, i have goodlink installed which in itself takes up over 9mb! and that also cannot be installed into the ROM nor on the sd card.

i'm not saying you cannot install anything in the rom. install till your hearts content. but what will you do when upgrades to all those apps come out?
RAM or ROM, they the same to me, both resides on the treo. ROM you cannot overwrite/delete without recustomizing the rom and hard resetting, RAM you can.

I do understand what your concern about that updates. I have probably launched the updates at least a dozen times. Changing the apps is not really a big deal.
I am just saying if we free up the ROM and not using it, would not gain anything. The RAM is not going to increase. What the gain is that we can move the apps that have to be in the RAM into the ROM and thus free up the RAM.



Posted by: islandsnow

Quote:
Originally Posted by chompx2
I do understand what your concern about that updates. I have probably launched the updates at least a dozen times. Changing the apps is not really a big deal.
I am just saying if we free up the ROM and not using it, would not gain anything. The RAM is not going to increase. What the gain is that we can move the apps that have to be in the RAM into the ROM and thus free up the RAM.


RAM and ROM share the total amount of space. total is what? 25mb? so yeah, if you free up more ROM, then of course you have more space to install things into RAM.

if i'm not mistaken, if ROM comes out to 10mb, that leaves you with 15mb of RAM to use. if you customize the ROM and free up space so ROM only takes up 5mb, then you have 20mb of RAM to use.

oh well maybe not. if you are right, then if there is nothing to gain by freeing up ROM, then maybe i should have added some stuff. but too late for me. good luck with your ROM customizing!



Posted by: islandsnow

BTW, for those of you who upgraded to fw1.28... does your quick keys work from the phone app? for instance, i assigned L to the call log app. but when i press and hold L from the phone app, the call log app is supposed to start. however, nothing happens.

it used to work in the older firmwares.



Posted by: islandsnow

Quote:
Originally Posted by islandsnow
BTW, for those of you who upgraded to fw1.28... does your quick keys work from the phone app? for instance, i assigned L to the call log app. but when i press and hold L from the phone app, the call log app is supposed to start. however, nothing happens.

it used to work in the older firmwares.


guess no one can test this simple thing out?





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