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Benefits of Sharp SX813 firmware (hongkong)
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Posted by: dingd0ng

Hi there, this thread might be a repeat from previous. But i have a question for you all experts Sharp users. I am planning to trade in my SE700i for a Sharp SX813 (Sharp 902 flashed to SX813). I want to know what are the fixes that the flash do to the current 902 model. Is it much more stable?
I heard it fixes some errors, unlocks the mp3 so you no longer need to use the panasonic card reader to transfer mp3 songs and it is also the chinese version, meaning i can write and read in chinese. Is that true? But i also heard the SX813 drawback is the saving time for photos taken compared to the 902 version, is that true? I have never used Sharp before, always been using Sony Ericsson, but heard that the Sharp quality is great, please someone can give me an overview or some information...as i know nothing.
Thanks

Posted by: BMWFilms

yeah you get simplifed and traditional chinese with the fixed mp3 problems too. and that repositioning thing. i don't know...i've found sharp to be the pinnacle of screens...cannot go back to anything but AQUOS now for me. what coloour you trading for? i'mma like blue kind of guy hehe

Posted by: Timsta

i've been a SE user since the t68 came out.. so take it from me. the screen is abso-fuggin-tutely awesome on the sharp. the only beef i have with the Sharp phones is the UI. its notn very user friendly when compared to the SE ui. there is no picture saving time issue any more with the sx813 firmware. and yes. you can read/write chinese with it too.

there is no repositioning any more with the flash too. the baby blue is nice.. but the dark green is tite. i have the white. its not very tite. lol. cheers.

Posted by: wai_lai416

titan grey is the way to go!! stylish and elegant nothing can compare

Posted by: celerius

Hi, new joiner here. Sorry to 'hijack' this thread, but since we're on the topic of comparing 902sh and sx813, what about the ferrari fw? How does that compare with the other 2 fws? Perhaps it'll be nice to have a table of functions/features/bugs that each fw has and is fixed in which revision? I haven't gotten my v902sh flashed to sx813 fw yet so I'm not sure if I could this such a table. And I don't have anyone here who can do a ferrari fw flash for me. What do you guys think? That'll probably help with people always asking and comparing the firmwares and it would kinda 'answer' all their questions perhaps.

Posted by: Timsta

ferrari is pretty much the same as sx813. actually if you browse the other threads in this forum. u'll find more info. but i'm usin ferrari. everythin is ame as the sx813 except it looks more fun.. with all the ferarri logos and shiet. but there is some bugs with the ferrari firmware..

such as the sms sent box not working..
wap settings might not stay or work..

Posted by: celerius

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Originally Posted by Timsta

ferrari is pretty much the same as sx813. actually if you browse the other threads in this forum. u'll find more info. but i'm usin ferrari. everythin is ame as the sx813 except it looks more fun.. with all the ferarri logos and shiet. but there is some bugs with the ferrari firmware..

such as the sms sent box not working..
wap settings might not stay or work..

So we can assume that the actual 902SH Ferrari Edition users are experiencing the same issues?

Posted by: Timsta

i'm not sure.. u'd have to find a real user and ask them urself.

Posted by: dingd0ng

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWFilms

yeah you get simplifed and traditional chinese with the fixed mp3 problems too. and that repositioning thing. i don't know...i've found sharp to be the pinnacle of screens...cannot go back to anything but AQUOS now for me. what coloour you trading for? i'mma like blue kind of guy hehe

I am planning to go for the black one.

Posted by: BMWFilms

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timsta

i've been a SE user since the t68 came out.. so take it from me. the screen is abso-fuggin-tutely awesome on the sharp. the only beef i have with the Sharp phones is the UI. its notn very user friendly when compared to the SE ui. there is no picture saving time issue any more with the sx813 firmware. and yes. you can read/write chinese with it too.

there is no repositioning any more with the flash too. the baby blue is nice.. but the dark green is tite. i have the white. its not very tite. lol. cheers.

lol does the white get easy dirty?

Posted by: Timsta

oh nah.. it doesn't get dirty easily at all. just that i find the colour isnt very sharp. its not a sharp white. its not like.. HOLY FUX> thats wikked pearl white. u get what i mean. when u have this kind of phone
u want ppl to see/say.. holy fux. shiet their pants and be like.. wikked colour.. wikked phone.

Posted by: BMWFilms

haha like a pearl white car...i think i know get what you're saying. i just wish sharp made them interchangeable shells like nokia...haha so i could have all the colours instead of just one

Posted by: pana

Quote:

Originally Posted by celerius

So we can assume that the actual 902SH Ferrari Edition users are experiencing the same issues?

I have the Ferrari Edition phone (RED), and I have no problems with the SMS or the WAP browser. The only issue is when I press the Vodafone live button on the menu page, my browser opens up to a Vodafone page instead of my homepage.

Posted by: Timsta

yah man.. fuggin pearl white man.. thats what we need.. it'd be so tite. and if we could use car wax on the shells.. ****.

yah.. well sharp doesn't really make their phones user friendly or user modifiable. look at their track record since the gx22. bluetooth barely worked for those earlier models. their UI doesn't even have themes which u can set. we shoudl be happy they let us set multiple ringtones and leds for calls and messages.

as for shells. yah i wish they would have removable covers and such.. even nokias newest 8800 i can get the oem housings for it already.. but ours.. don't even think about it.

this is probably why i was/still am a SE user along with this SHarp. se lets me mod the shiet out of my phone.

Posted by: Tobby

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Originally Posted by pana

Could you check the firmware version on your phone please? *01763*8371# Would be interesting to know since you don't have the same bugs as the phones flashed with 1.33f.

Posted by: celerius

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobby

Could you check the firmware version on your phone please? *01763*8371# Would be interesting to know since you don't have the same bugs as the phones flashed with 1.33f.

He has the actual ferrari edition, maybe the ferrari firmware's different in a way that it works perfectly fine on the actual phone instead of the normal v902sh. But we'll still love to find out what's the firmware version on Pana's 902sh FE.

Posted by: pana

I have the real 902SH Ferrari. Not a 902SH flash with Ferrari Firmware

Posted by: Tobby

Quote:

Originally Posted by pana

I have the real 902SH Ferrari. Not a 902SH flash with Ferrari Firmware

Yeah, but what's the fw version at your real 902SH Ferrari?

Posted by: pana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobby

Yeah, but what's the fw version at your real 902SH Ferrari?

1.33F
EMP: U100 4.0
OW: 7.0.2.1.1.108
APLIX:1.31

Posted by: celerius

Quote:

Originally Posted by pana

1.33F
EMP: U100 4.0
OW: 7.0.2.1.1.108
APLIX:1.31

Tobby, you've the same version but you encounter the problems that was mentioned by Timsta?

Posted by: Tobby

Quote:

Originally Posted by celerius

Tobby, you've the same version but you encounter the problems that was mentioned by Timsta?

Yes, I have exactly the same version, but encounter the problems mentioned by Timsta. Wierd..

Posted by: Tobby

Quote:

Originally Posted by pana

1.33F
EMP: U100 4.0
OW: 7.0.2.1.1.108
APLIX:1.31

Thanks

Posted by: celerius

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobby

Yes, I have exactly the same version, but encounter the problems mentioned by Timsta. Wierd..

Such a dilemma, not sure whether to go with ferrari fw or the sx813 fw. I spoke to evilgabbie couple hours ago and he mentioned that his ferrari fw flash doesn't have the issue with WAP and with regards to the sent items issue he said that it's also true for sx813 fw. Can anyone verify the sent items issue on the sx813 fw please?

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Originally Posted by Timsta

but schnizter said u have to do a master reset to make the settings stay. or something to that effect.

How about this? Tobby tried that?

Update: I've gotten someone in another forum to do the sent items test and sx813 works fine.

Posted by: wyotin

Quote:

Originally Posted by celerius

Tobby, you've the same version but you encounter the problems that was mentioned by Timsta?

Reflash it and everything should be fine.

Posted by: celerius

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyotin

Reflash it and everything should be fine.

I take it that you've a V902SH that's flashed with the ferrari fw and you don't encounter any of the known issues?

Posted by: wyotin

Quote:

Originally Posted by celerius

I take it that you've a V902SH that's flashed with the ferrari fw and you don't encounter any of the known issues?

We offer unlock - flashing services...... We are in Marketplace.

Posted by: SharpST77

does it have shutter sound when u take pics with 902??

if so... anyway to get rid of it?

Posted by: wai_lai416

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharpST77

does it have shutter sound when u take pics with 902??

if so... anyway to get rid of it?

yup and quite loud... don't think can get rid of it yet unless someone comes out with a hack?

Posted by: Tobby

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyotin

Reflash it and everything should be fine.

I will try that, thanks.

Posted by: Timsta

man thta means i have to ask schnitzer to reflash.. i wonder if he would be ok with that.

Posted by: celerius

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timsta

man thta means i have to ask schnitzer to reflash.. i wonder if he would be ok with that.

Actually wyotin didn't really answer my question of whether the ones that they flash works perfectly fine or not. I think it's best to double-check with him on that before doing a re-flash.

Posted by: Timsta

i know. he kind of skipped it. ah well. i have heard from evilgabbie that a reflash might be needed.

Posted by: celerius

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyotin

Reflash it and everything should be fine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobby

I will try that, thanks.

I don't really understand how a reflash would make it any different. It'll be nice if someone can explain this. Does it mean that maybe some flashes aren't completed properly? Tobby, hope it works for you. Please keep us updated after reflashing, thanks!

Posted by: Tobby

Still waiting for a cable to arrive, the one I received didn't work

I don't know if a reflash helps, but I'm sure willing to give it a try

I will let you know if it helps.

Posted by: Aldiggi

Is there graphical differences between the different softwares available for the 902? Menu, wallpapers, ringers, softkeys, etc...

Posted by: celerius

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldiggi

Is there graphical differences between the different softwares available for the 902? Menu, wallpapers, ringers, softkeys, etc...

The SX813 and Ferrari firmware looks totally different. Ferrari firmware comes with it's engine revving ringtones, some ferrari wallpapers, and a racing game. I'm not sure bout the 902SH as I've not seen it myself. If you've gone through this thread and other threads on the ferrari firmware you'd know that there are issues with it, I'm still waiting for Tobby to see if reflashing will help with those issues. It'll be nice if it didn't have those issues and supported simplified and traditional chinese.

Posted by: Timsta

the ferrari firmware is as what Celerius stated...

the sx813 firmware is pretty stable. i'm using it now after my ferrari firmware died on me.

sometimes a flash doesn't completely properly (not fully) so it might need a reflash to set it straight. sometimes.. its just a hit and a miss.

i have traditional chinese on mine.. and same with simplified i believe.. let me check. hold on. yup. simplified, traditinoal and english.. and u can search using pin yin too.

Posted by: ducvader

Man phones phones phones. I miss my old sharp phones. I think imma wait on something newer from sharp cause these 902 813 phones don't intrigue me at all. :-/

Posted by: totaltoanage

AHVB x3

Posted by: Tobby

Quote:

Originally Posted by celerius

Ok, I've done some flashing tonight, a lot in fact. And this is so weird, I've flashed with the 1.50h full repair, 1.44_euro, sx813 and back to 1.33f, but none of the flashes removed any of the bugs

So in my case the 1.33f firmware doesn't seem to have anything to do with the problems. And if the 1.33f caused the problems in the first place, there are no way back in my case.

Posted by: celerius

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobby

Ok, I've done some flashing tonight, a lot in fact. And this is so weird, I've flashed with the 1.50h full repair, 1.44_euro, sx813 and back to 1.33f, but none of the flashes removed any of the bugs

So in my case the 1.33f firmware doesn't seem to have anything to do with the problems. And if the 1.33f caused the problems in the first place, there are no way back in my case.

Which issues are you referring to? Cause with the sx813, it's supposed to be flawless, cept for the supposed issue with long image saving time.

Posted by: Tobby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timsta

@celerius:

Those issues.. In my case it didn't help flashing with the sx813.

Posted by: celerius

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobby

@celerius: Those issues.. In my case it didn't help flashing with the sx813.

mm sorry to hear that. sounds pretty serious then, if the sx813 firmware doesn't help with the sms sent items and wap issues. so your guessing it's the ferrari firmware that caused 'permanent' damage to the phone or it's the hardware that was at fault in the first place?

Posted by: Timsta

odd man. cause the sx813 firmware made my sentbox working. i have wap now. and my picture saving time is not slow at all. its just as fast as it was with teh ferrari.

Posted by: Tobby

Quote:

Originally Posted by celerius

I don't know. Sounds strange that the fw can damage the hw.. Maybe somebody here knows. The guy I bought the phone from has two more in stock, so I sent him an email and asked if he could check the other phones for the same errors. If they are ok I will ask him to switch mine for a new one.

Posted by: Tobby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timsta

odd man. cause the sx813 firmware made my sentbox working. i have wap now. and my picture saving time is not slow at all. its just as fast as it was with teh ferrari.

Odd is the word. Glad to hear that you finally got your phone to work. Must be something wrong with my phone I think.

Posted by: Timsta

maybe u need a reflash.. i dunno. just a suggestion. yah i'm very happy mine is working good tho

Posted by: superdx

If flashed with the SX813 firmware, it will work in JP?

What about English T9/predictive text? That would be a really nice thing to have.

Posted by: Timsta

yes to both

Posted by: superdx

That's great, do you think the shop could save the original JP firmware so I could flash it back and forth when I travel?

Is it possible to flash yourself?

Posted by: Timsta

its not possible to flash yourslef unless u own setool2/tool3 with the cables and such.. and when i say that. you're looking at an investment of aboit 300 US. and the ability to unlock many other phones at the same time and update them too.

you can definitely flash it backa nd forth if you use this tool.. otherwise.. there is no other way.

Posted by: Gochujang

I have a question about the sx813 firmware for the 902sh.
I know that with the japanese firmware it`s difficult to play mp3 on the phone, because you have to convert them into this special secured format. What about the sx813 firmware? Is there the same problem, or can I play mp3 with this firmware without any problems ( so like with the EU firmware?)
And can I write and read japanese with the sx813 firmware?

Thanks

Posted by: kms-lai

only the jap 902 , you will need to convert mp3 to sd audio, like the european version the sx813 can play mp3 direct from the sd card without converting to sd audio.

the sx813 cannot display or type japanese text

Posted by: Gochujang

On ebay I found a 902sh with the Japanese firmware BUT they said it`s mp3 UNLOCKED. So I can play normal mp3 without drm, like on the european firmware. How can that be?

Posted by: Timsta

hrm.. maybe they found a way around it. but from what iknow.. that can't be true.. well if the seller is high ranked.. i;m sure he wouldn't lie..

Posted by: kms-lai

Hello Timsta

I don't trust people from ebay, they say anything , just to sell a product(well not every one, just some of them).

shops in hk, also say's thing like this when i asked them regarding the ringtone, I asked them does the 902/903 use mp3 as ringtone (not through wap), they said yes, I mention that this is not possible, so he showed me, it turned out to be mmf, then he said it has to be converted. I said he was full of crap, he said it was mp3 but converted to mmf, so it is a scam way to sell something to people if they if they are not sure.

so if someone buys from hk, you get alot of this.

Posted by: Timsta

hahaha. that sucks. thats such bs. yo. we got the 903sh sellin over here for about 450 US. before shipping. how's prices in HK for them?

Posted by: kms-lai

japanese version 903 locked is HKD 3280-3680, two shops say's they have the unlocked version of the japanese 903sh for HKD 6980 but would'nt show it to me, they said i have to pay for it first. I found out that the two shops is owned by the same person.

If i'm going to pay HKD 6980, i'll get the hk version sx833 from smartone instead, it's HKD 5680, why pay the extra!

Posted by: Timsta

exactly... i rather get the japanese version. cause i liek the colours more. imo i think i'd just get a locked one now and unlcok later. someone will offer unlocking pretty soon. i'm sure. its just a waiting game. we waited a long time for the sharp 902sh to be unlocked. i'm sure we'll have to wait a long time again.. i know alot of ppl had said the 903sh will be faster to unlock... but it hasn't.. we've waited over a month now.

Posted by: wyotin

The developing team is working hard for the unlocking solution right now.

Posted by: yangj08

Sure, the SX firmwares support MP3 in flashed phones, but I've noticed that some of my MP3s won't play. For example, MP3s over 10MB won't play, as well as some MP3s that copy over from my Powerbook with a little hidden file attached that I don't see until it's on my phone, like when I try to copy over a L'Arc En Ciel son called Ready Steady Go.mp3, I'll have a hidden file sent with it called ._Ready Steady Go.mp3 which makes both files unusable. Also, some files just won't play no matter what, and I haven't figured out anything else. Anyone else have this problem?

Posted by: olivrr

Quote:

Originally Posted by yangj08

Also, some files just won't play no matter what, and I haven't figured out anything else. Anyone else have this problem?

I've encountered this problem before with mp3 not playing. My way of fixing it is by adding a number on each of the mp3. I think the phone wants it be in numerical order.

Posted by: yangj08

I thought so too, but I have some non-numbered files that play just fine. I really have no idea at this point, though, so ANY help at thhis point is appreciated.

Posted by: totaltoanage

works for Euro firmware

Posted by: kms-lai

check whether the mp3 is less than 192 kbps, the hidden files could be cd text or thumbnail viewed file(file that is set as thumbnail view setting can be copied over to the memory card).

you can use the DMC audio convertor to convert the mp3 to different sampling rate, and convert mp3 to wav and back again to get rid of the hidden files.

Posted by: k2bk2bk2b

Quote:

Originally Posted by yangj08

Sure, the SX firmwares support MP3 in flashed phones, but I've noticed that some of my MP3s won't play. For example, MP3s over 10MB won't play, as well as some MP3s that copy over from my Powerbook with a little hidden file attached that I don't see until it's on my phone, like when I try to copy over a L'Arc En Ciel son called Ready Steady Go.mp3, I'll have a hidden file sent with it called ._Ready Steady Go.mp3 which makes both files unusable. Also, some files just won't play no matter what, and I haven't figured out anything else. Anyone else have this problem?

Im using a MAC os as well.
just delete the _(file) its juz a extra file..