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connecting VX8100 to mac, w/ bitpim, bluetooth

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Posted by: RoboticHobo24

has anybody connected to a mac using bluetooth through bitpim? i have been trying for a little while and cannot possibly get it to work. i have searched the web quite a bit and nobody has written a proper tutorial about using bitpim with a mac. the mac i am using doesn't say it even has a connection to my phone. the people who make bitpim also need some serious help in the tutorial department, with almost no information about macs. help would be greatly appreciated. (i'm using bitpim 0.7.34)


Posted by: rcfuzz

Can't do it with BT. Spend 5-6 bucks on eBay and get an USB cable for the 8100 or even the 8000. Bitpim on the Mac works great with a cable hooked up to the 8100.


Posted by: RoboticHobo24

alright, thanks. thats what i was planning on doing originally.


Posted by: jeffj44646

Bluetooth will work with the VX8100 on a Mac. I am using a Powerbook running OS X v10.4.2 with built-in bluetooth and it works fine. I will try to explain the steps needed to connect.

1) Make sure bluetooth is turned on in both the phone and the Mac
2) Go to the visibility settings of the phone and select "Shown to all"
3) Click the Bluetooth icon on your toolbar across on the top of the screen of your Mac and select "Set up Bluetooth Device" from the menu that pops up.
4) Bluetooth Setup Assistant will open
5) Select "Mobile Phone" and click Continue
6) The name of your phone should show up in the list of phones
7) Click continue
8) Your phone will ask you something about letting your Mac connect. Select yes or continue. I can't remember which.
9) Your Mac will display a passkey. Enter this number into the space provided on your phone and select OK. Your phone and Mac are now connected and able to talk to each other.
10) Your Mac will now ask you what services you want to be able to use. Uncheck all option and select Continue. Internet access might with the Mac software, but I haven't tried yet. You're on your own with this.
11) A message will tell you that your device has been set up succesfully. Select Quit.
12) Open BitPim. I am using version 0.7.34
13) Click BitPim from the toolbar and select "Preferences" from the toolbar that drops down.
14) Click "Browse" to the right of Com Port
15) A list of available ports will be displayed. Hightlight your phone and click OK. Mine looks like the following: Serial (/dev/cu.jeffphone-BluetoothSe-1) I have my phone named "jeff phone"
16) Select VX8000 as the phone type and click OK on the BitPim settings page
17) Click "View" from the toolbar and select "View Filesystem" from the toolbar that drops down
18) The window should show the following: >/ (the ">" represents an arrow) Click on the arrow to view the filesystem.
19) Your on your own from here. Read some other postings for info on what to do once you're here.

Note: Error message sometimes popup when you are trying to connect. Simply try again and it will usually work.

I usually have to follow steps 2 thru 16 every time I want to connect after my laptop has been rebooted

Do not hold me responsable for anything you might screw up on your phone. It's not my fault. This is just what has worked for me.


Posted by: RoboticHobo24

wow thanks a lot for the tutorial, i'll see if it works.


Posted by: RoboticHobo24

ok, i'm starting to get pissed now, i am not familiar with macs so i don't know the keyboard shortcuts. i am trying to add a ringtone to the phone and need to delete the "my_ringtone.dat" file from the filesystem. what the hell is the shortcut to delete things on a mac? i press the key labeled delete and it takes me to the top of the file tree (dload), i have also tried cmd+delete and that didn't work either. little help?


Posted by: jeffj44646

Hold the "ctrl" key on the keyboard while clicking on the file you want to delete. A menu will pop up with options. It is kinda like right clicking with Windows. I think this will get you what you want.

Jeff


Posted by: Kolisar

Jeffj44646 is correct. Hold down the control key and click, that will bring up a context menu that will allow you to delete the file. To copy the file you will need to control-click the directory, select new on the context menu and then select the file from the file open dialog that will appear. Drag and Drop will not work.

You may also receive some strange errors saying that some other bluetooth device is using the phone while copying the files and the file will not copy. Just try again, eventually it will work.

If it matters I am working from a powerbook with built-in bluetooth and 10.4.2. I have successfully downloaded a few ringtones via BitPim and Bluetooth so if you have any problems PM me and I would be glad to help work you through them.

Kolisar


Posted by: qirex

What OS are you guys on?? I'm using 10.3.9

I cant get it to work, i get BT "working" icon when i select the bluetooth port, but when i query the filesystem, i get the dreader brew transition error.


Here it....

16:21:01.795 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Opening port /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync, 115200 baud, timeout 3.000000, hardwareflow 0, softwareflow 0
16:21:01.795 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Open of comm port suceeded
16:21:01.796 LG-VX8000: Attempting to contact phone
16:21:01.796 LG-VX8000: Retrieving fundamental phone information
16:21:01.796 LG-VX8000: Phone serial number
16:21:01.797 LG-VX8000: Getting file contents 'nvm/$SYS.ESN'
16:21:04.780 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0 bytes read
16:21:04.834 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Changed port speed to 38400
16:21:08.284 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0 bytes read
16:21:08.324 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Changed port speed to 115200
16:21:11.982 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0 bytes read
16:21:15.038 LG-VX8000: No response to AT+GMM
16:21:18.043 LG-VX8000: No response to setting QCDMG mode
16:21:18.086 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Changed port speed to 115200
16:21:21.548 LG-VX8000: No response to AT+GMM
16:21:24.551 LG-VX8000: No response to setting QCDMG mode
16:21:24.595 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Changed port speed to 19200
16:21:28.054 LG-VX8000: No response to AT+GMM
16:21:31.057 LG-VX8000: No response to setting QCDMG mode
16:21:31.112 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Changed port speed to 230400
16:21:34.573 LG-VX8000: No response to AT+GMM
16:21:37.576 LG-VX8000: No response to setting QCDMG mode
16:21:40.582 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0 bytes read
16:21:40.638 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Changed port speed to 38400
16:21:44.139 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0 bytes read
16:21:44.186 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Changed port speed to 115200
16:21:47.875 /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0 bytes read
16:21:47.978 Error: Device needs attention - LG-VX8000 on /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync
LG-VX8000 on /dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync: The phone is not responding while transitioning mode from none to brew.

See the help for troubleshooting tips
16:22:01.242 Exception: An unexpected exception has occurred.
Please see the help for details on what to do.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui.pyo", line 1375, in OnCopyEntry
AttributeError: 'LogWindow' object has no attribute 'OnCopy'

Variables by last 8 frames, innermost last

Frame ? in /Users/qirex/Desktop/BitPim.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py at line 31
profile = <function profile at 0x21c630>
_run = <function _run at 0x21c5f0>
_chdir_resource = <function _chdir_resource at 0x217fb0>
_disable_linecache = <function _disable_linecache at 0x217e30>
__file__ = '/Users/qirex/Desktop/BitPim.app/Contents/Resources/bp.py'
__name__ = '__main__'
__doc__ = 'Main entry point to Bitpim\n\nIt invokes BitPim in gui or commandline mode as a

Frame _run in /Users/qirex/Desktop/BitPim.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py at line 28
script = 'bp.py'
base = '/Users/qirex/Desktop/BitPim.app/Contents/Resources'
scripts = ('bp.py',)
path = '/Users/qirex/Desktop/BitPim.app/Contents/Resources/bp.py'

Frame ? in /Users/qirex/Desktop/BitPim.app/Contents/Resources/bp.py at line 79
profile = <function profile at 0x21c630>
_run = <function _run at 0x21c5f0>
_chdir_resource = <function _chdir_resource at 0x217fb0>
_disable_linecache = <function _disable_linecache at 0x217e30>
__file__ = '/Users/qirex/Desktop/BitPim.app/Contents/Resources/bp.py'
__name__ = '__main__'
__doc__ = 'Main entry point to Bitpim\n\nIt invokes BitPim in gui or commandline mode as a

Frame run in gui.pyo at line 475
args = (['/Users/qirex/Desktop/BitPim.app/Contents/Resources/bp.py', '-psn_0_33685505']
m = <gui.MainApp; proxy of C++ wxPyApp instance at _01d48da0_p_wxPyApp>

Frame MainLoop in wx/_core.pyo at line 7493
self = <gui.MainApp; proxy of C++ wxPyApp instance at _01d48da0_p_wxPyApp>

Frame MainLoop in wx/_core.pyo at line 6926
args = (<gui.MainApp; proxy of C++ wxPyApp instance at _01d48da0_p_wxPyApp>,)
kwargs = Keys []
{}

Frame OnCopyEntry in gui.pyo at line 1375
self = <gui.MainWindow; proxy of C++ wxFrame instance at _021eaa00_p_wxFrame>
evt = <wx._core.CommandEvent; proxy of C++ wxCommandEvent instance at _bfffdc00_p_wxCo


Posted by: jeffj44646

qirex,

It looks as if you don't have your phone properly setup in BitPim. In the first line of the error message you posted the device BitPim is trying to connect to is listed (/dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync). This is a default port that is setup in OS X for syncing PDAs. The device path for your phone should contain something resembling what you named your phone. Try going to the preferences in BitPim and fixing the Com Port setting.


Posted by: jeffj44646

In my original post on how to connect to a Mac using Bluetooth I mentioned that I had to follow all of the steps every time I wanted to connect. I was wrong. Once a phone is setup, you only have to go to the Bluetooth menu in your phone and view the paired devices. Your computer's name should be listed, with "port disabled" below it. Highlight your computers name, and press the left softkey to "Set Port". Hightlight and press "OK". Your phone will connect and will be ready to work with BitPim.


Posted by: rowdy1

Hi
I am also trying to set up with MAC. I get the same type of exception error as noted before. BUT mine says LG4400 thru out the message even though I have set it to LG8000 etc. ????? What do I do with this message? I have looked and redone everything multiple times and still can't get it to recognize the phone. It is funny because I can get it to rec the phone when I log onto Verizon's web site back up assistant-- weird.

I appreciate all of the assistance you have offered thus far and if you have a moment and wouldn't mind I would appreciate your guidance here as well. Thanks so much!!


Posted by: Kolisar

The bluetooth/bitpim combination only works if you select the "other CDMA" as the phone type and only use the file system viewer. I read elsewhere on this site that there is a copy of bitpim that supports the 8100 but the kit is only for windows right now so, when the officially release the next version, there will be a mac kit.


Posted by: innegable3

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kolisar
The bluetooth/bitpim combination only works if you select the "other CDMA" as the phone type and only use the file system viewer. I read elsewhere on this site that there is a copy of bitpim that supports the 8100 but the kit is only for windows right now so, when the officially release the next version, there will be a mac kit.


Will this take care of the issue of the Mac not seeing the appropriate port? Thanks.


Posted by: qirex

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffj44646
qirex,

It looks as if you don't have your phone properly setup in BitPim. In the first line of the error message you posted the device BitPim is trying to connect to is listed (/dev/cu.Bluetooth-PDA-Sync). This is a default port that is setup in OS X for syncing PDAs. The device path for your phone should contain something resembling what you named your phone. Try going to the preferences in BitPim and fixing the Com Port setting.



i only wish it were that easy. It doesnt allow me to. The only ports it shows are the generic ones.

sad eh?

are you guys on tiger who can make this work??


Posted by: innegable3

Quote:
Originally Posted by qirex
i only wish it were that easy. It doesnt allow me to. The only ports it shows are the generic ones.

sad eh?

are you guys on tiger who can make this work??


Qirex,

I was having your same problem, but I fixed it by going to the Bluetooth Serial Utility(~/Applications/Utilities/) selecting New, and setting up a Bluetooth port for a mobile phone. Once I did that, it showed up in BitPim just fine, and I've been able to use it with no problems. Hope this helps.


Posted by: RABBITintheMOON

Hi everyone,
I'm on a G5 Duel 1.8GHz, Running Tiger 10.4.2 and have a D-link USB Bluetooth adapter. I've followed the step by step guide to setting up my VX8100 with bluetooth and BitPim and I have gotten to the point of seeing my phones Directories in the "Filesystem" tab of BitPim. Now Im stuck, I cant see any of my Pixs, Flix or Sounds in the visible directories. I did find where I thought they would be under Filesystem which was the mmc1 directory under my_flix or my_pix or even my_sounds. Am I doing something wrong still?? I did try to go to the menu bar on BitPim and select Data/Get Phone Data but half way threw it gave me "An unexpected exception has occurred." Here is the full error message.

An unexpected exception has occurred.
Please see the help for details on what to do.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "gui.pyo", line 170, in run
File "gui.pyo", line 110, in __call__
File "gui.pyo", line 1609, in getdata
File "gui.pyo", line 1603, in getfundamentals
File "com_lgvx4400.pyo", line 90, in getfundamentals
File "p_lgvx4400.pyo", line 1173, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 1079, in readfrombuffer
File "p_lgvx4400.pyo", line 1084, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 340, in readfrombuffer
File "prototypes.pyo", line 1273, in getnextbytes
IndexError: Trying to read 23 bytes starting at 121 which will go beyond end of 138 byte buffer

Variables by last 8 frames, innermost last

Frame getdata in gui.pyo at line 1609
self = <WorkerThread(BitPim helper, started daemon)>
req = <guiwidgets.GetPhoneDialog; proxy of C++ wxDialog instance at _019eb600_p_wxDial
todo = [(<bound method WorkerThread.rebootcheck of <WorkerThread(BitPim helper, started

Frame getfundamentals in gui.pyo at line 1603
self = <WorkerThread(BitPim helper, started daemon)>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': '5cf6608b18bfeabaa265074ad1891b8211e75295'}

Frame getfundamentals in com_lgvx4400.pyo at line 90
self = <com_lgvx8000.Phone instance at 0x87e62b0>
buf = <prototypes.buffer instance at 0x87e6558>
results = Keys ['uniqueserial']
{'uniqueserial': '5cf6608b18bfeabaa265074ad1891b8211e75295'}
g = <p_lgvx4400.pbgroups object at 0x7ce7fd0>

Frame readfrombuffer in p_lgvx4400.pyo at line 1173
self = <p_lgvx4400.pbgroups object at 0x7ce7fd0>
buf = <prototypes.buffer instance at 0x87e6558>

Frame readfrombuffer in prototypes.pyo at line 1079
x = <p_lgvx4400.pbgroup object at 0x87e7950>
self = <prototypes.LIST object at 0x7ce75f0>
buf = <prototypes.buffer instance at 0x87e6558>

Frame readfrombuffer in p_lgvx4400.pyo at line 1084
self = <p_lgvx4400.pbgroup object at 0x87e7950>
buf = <prototypes.buffer instance at 0x87e6558>

Frame readfrombuffer in prototypes.pyo at line 340
self = <prototypes.STRING object at 0x87e79b0>
buf = <prototypes.buffer instance at 0x87e6558>

Frame getnextbytes in prototypes.pyo at line 1273
self = <prototypes.buffer instance at 0x87e6558>
howmany = 23


I'm sure I've set it up correctly, even the BitPim window at the bottom right has me listed as LG-VX8000 with the name of my phone next to it.
If someone could help me here or guide me to a site that has more info on using the Filesystem Directories I'd be very appreciative. Or if maybe some how I screwed up on the set up I sure could use some help.
Thanks again, Steve


Posted by: RABBITintheMOON

hi again,
Sorry looks like I spoke to soon. Seems after playin with Data/get phone data over and over again the files finally appeared. All except for ringtones. Oh and it seems I cant upload to the phone. I can add images to the wallpaper Directory in BitPim but it won't update the phone. Been trying Data/send phone data but no luck so far.
Oh and One last thing, I found that if I try to delete a wallpaper image in BitPim it leaves a generic icon image in my Pix folder on my phone that I cant delete.
Still if anyone has any info on how to use Filesystem give a post. Is everyone get alot of errors with BitPim?

steve


Posted by: jeffj44646

Refer to this post on how to use the ringers you have sent to your phone: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=686076

I believe the author is working with the Windows version of BitPim, but once you are viewing the directory tree everything is pretty much the same. There are a few files you will have to delete that manage the ringer files on your phone, and then reboot your phone. I think you will lose any settings you have for special ringers used for particular numbers in your phonebook.

Hope this helps,
Jeff


Posted by: RABBITintheMOON

Thanks jeffj44646. That link was what i was lookin for. Appreciate the fast responce.


Posted by: skyjunky

Download the new versoin of bitbit it supports the 8100
http://sf.net/project/showfiles.php...ckage_id=120233


Posted by: citadel

hi, i have been able to successful connect to by 8100 using a ibook G4, bluetooth and bitpim. In order to use DUN I have modified the nvm_data file as prescribed in some other posts. However, using bitpim I am unable to replace the nvm_data file on my phone with the new one that I have modified. bitpim will not replace that file. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.


Posted by: dibby

Quote:
Originally Posted by citadel
hi, i have been able to successful connect to by 8100 using a ibook G4, bluetooth and bitpim. In order to use DUN I have modified the nvm_data file as prescribed in some other posts. However, using bitpim I am unable to replace the nvm_data file on my phone with the new one that I have modified. bitpim will not replace that file. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.



I have the same issue, there been a fix yet?


Posted by: recee2k3

citadel have you tried to remove the file and then add a new file. Also make sure in settings you do not have read only selected. It is a check box on bitpim that says do not allow writing to this device.


Posted by: boon4376

Quote:
Originally Posted by rcfuzz
Can't do it with BT. Spend 5-6 bucks on eBay and get an USB cable for the 8100 or even the 8000. Bitpim on the Mac works great with a cable hooked up to the 8100.



actually you can use bluetooth, you just have to set comports inside windows XP's built in bluetooth configuration program. Set your phone connection to say com4, then open bit pim and connect to the phone on com 4, simple.




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